1

"Talk Radio Is Running America"

Um, Mort buddy, you say it like it's a bad thing.  Problem is, it's not.  If it was we'd feel so much better.

2 I can't wait for the follow up piece in Newsweek about this bill failed because Democrats were once again hyper-intellectual while Republicans fell back on emotional appeals. 

I mean, when you compare Jeff Sessions emotional 20 point deconstruction of the bill with Ted Kennedy saying anti-amnesty types wanted to create an American Gestapo, it's hard to tell who was being rationale and who was playing on emotion.

Please Newsweek, explain this to me!

3 What a bunch of crap! The Shamnesty supporters worked over time to make sure people couldn't read the bill for themselves.

4 If I were to meet a nice girl who was attractive, smart, well endowed in the chest appendage department, and some friend came up to me and only informed me that said girl actually had, chlamydia, genital herpes, and a schlong, I don't think I'd complain that he only told me the bad parts. Sometimes the bad parts far outweigh any good.

5

And then to add insult to injury, a "tiny band" of malcotents abused the system to force their extremist-minority views on the whole Senate, defeating the cloture motion by a... um, majority vote.

Oh, come on, Ace.  We know all about the billions and billions of dollars that flow into your coffers--and talk radio's-- from secretive, shadowy organizations.

6 I dunno, but Lindsey Graham needs a primary challenger for me to send money to NOW!

7 I posted this elsewhere - but seriously, Ace, write your own bill.  Don't like what the Senate came up with?  Write your own, use input from all over the internet, and submit it to a Senator.  It may (probably will) get ignored, but "we" can do a better job than "they" can.  Letting "them" know that isn't such a bad thing.

8 Talk radio is running American when obviously Mort Kondracke should be running the show.

9

And damnit, they want it back.

Well, By god they'll have to fight me for it. Pry from my cold, dead hands and all that awesomeness.

10 I posted this elsewhere - but seriously, Ace, write your own bill.

Here, I'll  write it:  Put up a fucking fence and close the damn border.  Nothing in a bill is going to matter until they close the border. If they say they will increase border agents, I'll guarantee you that it will be a fraction of what they need and then the gov. will not fund them.  Really, you can mandate all sorts of things and then turn around and never fund them. So, if and until the border is closed, everybody has to stay in those damn imaginary shadows. 

11

You know what I didn't hear Mort "If I can't get my way I'm going to take my morally superior love of brown people and go home, racist" Kondracke say was that the "bad things" being reported by talk radio and underpants clad bloggers were, you know, untrue.  So it can be very reasonably inferred that Mr. Kondracke thinks lying to the American people (by ommission) is swell as long as he agrees with the policy.  Also, I'm still waiting for the pitchfork and torch bearing media lynchmob to go after the "Grand Bargaineers" (Morts term) who negotiated the entire bill in secret with business and special interests like they went after the Cheney energy commission.

12

Goddamn it, this makes me mad. The overt message is, "if Rush Limbaugh told you drooling morons to support this exact same bill, you'd happily do that, too!"

They can't understand a world where people aren't instructed by other people how to think and what to believe. I guess when you've spent your whole life attempting to be one of those People Who Instruct, the idea that talk radio resonates by tapping into things people already believe is incomprehensible.

13 Fred Barnes is, and always has been, a Paul Gigot conservative.  Whatever Wall Street wants, he wants.

14 write your own bill.

How about this:

The government of The United States of America shall enforce all existing immigration laws (including but not limited to, border security, internal enforcement and employer sanctions) to the fullest extent.

All in favor....

15 So true, what a bunch of arrogant twats. They're so pissed that they didn't get their amnesty. Hey Fred, Mort, Fuck you! We plebes won this time!

16 Fox has been hard to watch on this subject.  Brit's gang was 100% in the Kennedy Kool Aid tank from day 1.  Brit had a golden opportunity, should have posed a follow up re Fairness Doc.  One of the boys would have jumped on board.  Pathetic.  It's DC Insider disease. 

17 Wish I could remember where I heard this (to give proper credit), probably on some racist, right-wing blog, but if you had your bedroom window open, and there was a beehive outside, and the bees were flying in and stinging your kids, what's the first thing you do? Close the fucking window!!!! Then you can deal with what to do with the bees. Maybe smash them with a rolled up copy of the Wall Street Journal.

18

If they say they will increase border agents, I'll guarantee you that it will be a fraction of what they need and then the gov. will not fund them. 

dave at June 29, 2007 01:09 PM

...and the Border Agents that DO get funded will be scrutinized, arrested,  and hung out to dry when they do their job by shooting a drug mule in the ass.

19 Despite the opposition's strength, we won. Sinn fein, boys. Ourselves alone.

20 Yep, Fox is in the tank.

We need the help of the left. Doesn't matter what either side thinks if we are never listened to.

I'm not saying "let's be friends".

I'm saying, lets slay the dragon together, then we can do battle with each other within our constitutional framework, instead of these elite jerks bypassing the small r constitutional republic.

21 It's amazing how Gestapo-like these whiney bitches really are. They love to compare the Right to nazi's, when in fact, if they had their way, we'd be sieg-heiling to the likes of Hillary all day long.

22 One thing about the process of consideration of this immigration bill, was that illegals and their supporters could put millions of people on the streets to demand this kind of reform, but couldn't put 60 votes together in the Senate. Could this be because these millions were not Americans, and had no right to use our streets for their protests.

I think these in-your-face demonstrations irritated the American people, and it took little effort for talk radio and the conservative internet to motivate opposition to the immigration bill. I personally was put off by the many waving Mexican flags on American streets, and not fooled when their handlers had them bring American flags, for subsequent demonstration.

It's evident that the opponents of the bill were politically smarter and more adept than supporters.
Increased enforcement should be the "reform" we work for next and right now. There is little excuse for congress to stop wortking on this issue. The current system is not adequate. Employers of illegal aliens should be hunted down and hit hard, and criminal aleins have to be deported with less paperwork. Those that return and are caught, would make a great workforce for the new Isreali-style fence, at minimum wage, while serving there felony sentences.

I also think we could deal with objections about cutting of Rio Grande water for Americans use by putting the fence in the river. We certainly have the engineering expertise to make it happen.

23 Piranha.

Rio Grande fixed.

24

Dave ... no sh*t sherlock.  Seriously, congrats on not really accomplishing anything.  You think congress'll just let the immigration issue die?  No, they'll come back in a few years and try to shove something else past you.  Have you thought about that?  What happens if, in a few months, people begin to forget about their "not a dime" and "never again" mentalities (which always happens) and the congress-critters think maybe next time the fallout won't be as bad as they say, so it will really be OK to vote for the bill in 2009.  You want to chance that?  Or do you want to actually, you know, fix the problem?  Write your own bill.  Hell, there are probably lots of people around here who'd help.  You could take a section (like enforcement), then gather suggestions (like "Put up a fucking fence and close the damn border."), and maybe, oh I don't know, vote on it.  Have one of the hundreds of lawyers who read these sites put it into the correct legal-ese for you, then start a campaign to have people send it to their representatives.  Over a few days, a few thousand people called to voice their displeasure over the existing bill, and enough senators listened to make a difference.  If a few hundred people send a pre-written bill to their reps over a few months, maybe someone will listen again.  It only takes once.

But hey, you know, if you're more comfortable fighting this fight again in a few years, by all means, do nothing.

25 And its amazing the Pravda like reporting on the repopulation bill.  Oh, its the bipartisan bill.  like it came down from heaven escorted by a choir of angels.

All of the sudden cloture is a good thing, none of that nasty debate they were so in favor of when the left was blocking judges.

And hooray for W for finally fighting for something.  Too bad it was the worst idea ever.  Why couldn't he fight like this over judges or social security.  No, he saves his steam for 6 years to beat up his base. 

Back to the press though, hjonestly, the only people who can't see through this series of mincing double standards are people that haven't bothered to pay attention.

26

How much of the fence got built today?

 

You know America managed to build the National Highway System which is approximately 160,000 miles of roadway "important to the nation's economy, defense, and mobility."  (I like that "defense" bit!) http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/hep10/nhs/

 

How hard can a 2,000 mile fence be?

 

A Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll indicated the American people favor a proposal to build a 2,000-mile security fence by a 51-to-37 percent margin.  http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/systems/mexico-wall.htm

 

How long until they start?

 

Congress people are coming home from Washington for 4th of July - why don't we ask them?

27 Why, Aaron Burr is spinning in his grave.

Good thing you forgot to mention labor unions were opposed or I'd be hitting 2500 rpms right about now.

28 Ace - I hope you emailed a copy of this post to Mort and his cronies, Freddie "the beadle" Barnes and Mara "I never met a DNC talking point I wouldn't repeat" Liasson.

29 What they really mean is "someone other than me is running America" but that doesn't sound very good. Certainly they don't mean all talk radio, or they'd have to include Michael Medved.

30 Why do we need to accept "bad parts"?

When buy a burger I don't expect to see cow eyeballs and a big hank of tail hair in it.  McDonald's and Burger King, via some undisclosed and apparently magical consumer preference determination mechanism, have figured out that I don't want tufts of cow tail hair and eyeballs in my burger.

31

What, did I wake up all of a sudden in Nazi Germany?

Ja haben Sie urpl鰐zlich in Nazi-Deutschland aufgewacht.

32 Thanks for the video. I knew Kondracke was in idiot, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone actually <i>blither</i> before...

33

"only the bad parts"

Would someone remind me, one more time, what the "good parts" were?

34 Check out Rush's amusing logo for it (scroll down a little).

Fox hasn't been "conservative" for years.  It's *relatively* conservative, but essentially centrist, right-leaning at best.

You know, maybe newfound people power and transparency can stop the whole fraud of "comprehensive" bills altogether.  They're an abomination.

35 I love it when ace gets pissed off. His writing really improves.

Seriously dude, you've been on a rage bender for several days now about the POS amnesty bill and then, as icing on the cake, seeing Allah/HotAir smeared by the WSJ throwing a blueblood hissy fit seems to have driven you over the edge. NTTAWWT.

This is one of your best posts.

36 No, that wasn't it.  The liquor store around the corner ran out of value-rite.

37

"Talk Radio is Running America"

No, it is not.  I AM... and you refused to do anything more than repeat to me the empty slogans and halfwit insults the political elites wanted repeated.  For all your puffery about "the public's right to know" you didn't even once back one of these grand bargaineers into a corner, and demand straight answers for us about the obvious flaws of this Immigration Bill, did you?

You have forfeited any expectation to be treated as an honest broker because you sold your self-styled constituency out.  The only thing that you did differently this time is you sold us out in a bipartisan way, instead of exclusively to the Democrats, like you usually do!

I don't care about your ideas of impartiality or bipartisanship.  AND I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK!  The truth is all I want from you.  Your crafty blandishments and transparently contrived opinions are nothing if I do not have the truth, and the truth is not yours to give or withhold.  IT IS MINE BY RIGHT, AND I WILL HAVE IT.

IF YOU TRY TO DENY IT TO ME -  I WILL GET IT HOWEVER DAMN WELL I PLEASE, AND YOUR AND YOUR BLEATING SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT CAN GO TO HELL!

So don't complain when someone else helps me to grasp what is already my right!  You seem to think you have some sort of gatekeeper rights over whether any message can be disseminated or not.  You do not.  IS. THAT. FUCKING. CLEAR??

MSM, IF YOU ENRAGE ME ANY MORE, IF YOU TRY TO THWART MY RIGHTS AGAIN, I WILL DESTROY YOU!

38

sherlock,

That was some scary screed! And it was damn straight.

39

The bad part:  We're going to kill everyone who last name ends in a vowel.

The good part:  They get ice cream before we kill them.

40

hindmost

 

Yes but what if most of the bees were peacefully making honey?  What would you do then?  Let's not lump all the bee's in one group.

41 It's about time we saw someone post about this.  Kondracke's been on a screed for days about that amnesty bill.  Every time he opens his mouth about it he insinuated we all to damn dumb to think for ourselves and have to rely on Hannity to spoon feed up.  What a maroon.  That panel on Fox is becoming unwatchable.

42 Just when did being proud Americans who wants our boarders secured and our laws enforced become "Nativists" and when did this become a "Bad" thing?

43

"Write your own bill. "

Already written.  By Mexico.  All we have to do is adopt the same rules on immigrants that they have.

 

44 Who will speak for the people, if now the people are permitted to speak for themselves?

Beautiful.  I am stealing the fuck out of this one, dude.

45

Mort...Mort...Mort

46 Simple solution: A national, tamper-proof  ID issued to US citizens only.
Basically, no rights or privileges without one. We have to show picture ID to cash checks and insurance proof for many services including medical. No jobs,housing, welfare, schools, or voting for illegals. They would go home if there is nothing here for people in this country illegally. No need to deport.
THEN SECURE OUR BORDERS AS THEY SHOULD BE.

47 Maybe smash them with a rolled up copy of the Wall Street Journal.

Uhhh ... maybe another choice? My copy of WSJ is in the litter box, the NYTimes is on the bottom of the bird cage, and I just wiped my ass with the WaPo because my dumbass Mexican housemaid absconded with all the TP!

48 Talk Radio Is Running America

Well, if Congress can't do it, someone's gotta...

49

My favorite part of that Mort clip is when he references the "Tom Tancredo gang". Someone needs to p-shop Tancredo and a bunch of others who fought against the pos bill onto a "West Side Story" still photo of the Jets or the Sharks-whichever gang was the one that was fighting those "nasty brown people" I'm suppossed to hate so much.

Also, did you notice how he slips right before Brit interrupts him and calls illegal aliens "Hispanic Americans"!!

50 Republican politicians keep telling us it takes time to survey the border area so that construction of the actual fence may proceed. Talk radio has exposed this farce and the GoP leadership keeps trotting out the same old tired lie.

> Miles of Border fence surveying completed: unknown

> Miles of Border fence built in a year: 13

Transcontinental Railroad:

At one time the Union Pacific had built eight miles of track in one day. Crocker figured he could beat that, So on April 28, 1869, when the crews were only 23 miles apart, Central Pacific work gangs broke a record and laid ten miles of track in one day. They used 25,800 ties, 3,520 rails, 55,000 spikes, and 7,040 fishplates. For once, Irish and Chinese crews worked together and completed over ten miles in 12 hours.


Fuck off GoP.

51 It was so refreshing to hear actual information about the 370 page 11th hour "amendment" followed by the next morning's 430 page amendment.

Followed later that morning for the vote against cloture.

C'mon now, all together:

Jeff Sessions for President !

52 Power to the people enabled by blogosphere and talk radio!!!  At last, the people have a voice!!

53

"15 miles of an already-authorized 850 mile fence ".  The Secure Fence Act was signed on Oct. 26, 2006.  At this current rate of construction (1.875 miles per year) , it will only take 453 years to finish this project.  In a letter dated February 2004, no less an authority than Arizona Senator John McCain recognized that Border Patrol apprehension figures demonstrated that "almost four million people crossed our borders illegally 2002".  So, 453 x 4 million = 1,812,000,000,000 illegal aliens at that rate of invasion.

http://www.theamericanresistance.com/ref/letter_mccain_2004feb10.html

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