Media Spins/Spikes Disturbing Finding That Quarter of American Muslim Young Men Support Terrorism
Bumped, for a while, as Rush Limbaugh listeners may be checking in on his mention.
... I'd say that's the headline datum in the poll, wouldn't you? Your very professional newsmedia knows better, however. They use their j-school expertise to find the truly important stuff in the poll. Let's check the headlines, eh? USAToday: Poll: Most Muslims seek to adopt American lifestyle Wow! "Most!" Awesome! Personally, I'm a little bit more worried about the 26% of young Muslim males who want to kill me, but it's good to know that "most Muslims" seek to adopt the "American lifestyle." (Which may or may not involve killing Americans.) Representative quote:"This is a very positive story for the vast majority of Muslims," says Andrew Kohut, president of the Pew Research Center. "They're highly assimilated, and the largest proportion of their friends are not Muslims."Terrific.
The survey "clearly shows that the American Muslim community is well integrated in our society," says Ibrahim Hooper, communications director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Washington, D.C. "The overwhelming majority of American Muslims reject terrorism and religious extremism.""Overwhelming majority." 26%-69% on the terrorism justified vs. never justified question amoung young Muslim American males. Again, I was more hoping for something like a "unanimity." I ask of Mr. Hooper: Would he feel relieved if I told him right now 69% of young non-Muslim males opposed, but 26% supported, killing you and fellow Muslims due to our anger at their foreign policy? I don't think so. I think he'd call that "hatred" and "backlash." So I'm not getting why he thinks that we should be happy that only one in four young Muslim men are open to murdering the rest of us. Moving on: The Voice of America is a government outfit. So of course they must give us the straight dope, right? Poll: US Muslims Feel Post-9/11 Backlash Despite Moderate Outlook Psst: Some of that "backlash" you feel may be due to the 26% of young American Muslim males who would like to kill Americans. Just a thought. Sometimes people take a little thing like murder personally. Also, I don't know if support for murder is technically "moderate." Damn bigoted Americans. Giving us dirty looks and harrassing us just because an alaramingly high number of us support random mass murders against our fellow citizens. The very nerve. The New York Times owned International Herald Tribune must get it right, right? Paper of record and all.
Muslims assimilate better in U.S. than Europe, poll finds Better? Yes. US Muslims wish to murder their fellow citizens at rate lower by at least ten percent. Isn't that terrific? MediaLine finds that this poll actually demonstrates how peaceful American Muslims are. After all, they are optimistic that the Israel-Palestinian conflict is possible:
Pew Poll Shows American Muslims Believe Solution To Israel-Palestinian Conflict Possible Wow. Certainly that is the most newsworthy statistic one can glean from this poll. Most Muslims believe a "solution" is "possible" in the Israel-Palestinian conflict. Given that so many American Muslims support terrorism (and even Muslim apologists tell us that they're mostly referring to terrorism against Israel), we're left to ponder, precisely, what sort of "solution" for the "Israel problem" they may be thinking of, and whether it will be merely a temporary solution or a, let us say, more Final Solution. It really is amazing: The media is no longer in the business of reporting the most important news, but of deliberately suppressing it. Thanks to Gekkobear.
More: Like shooting civilians in a barrel-- Chicago Tribune: U.S. Muslims more content, assimilated than those abroad In fairness, that story carries the subhed: But 1-in-4 youths sympathize with suicide bombers. Though that subhed doesn't show on Google. Though I don't think that saves them. Imagine this headline from the Chicago Tribune: Most Southerners Share Values With Rest of America
But 1 in 4 Are Proud To Be Banjo-Strokin', Corncob-Smokin', Cousin-Pokin' Inbred Hillbilly Cannibals I sort of think the subhed there would be deemed, properly, the most important finding in that poll. (Joke lifted from Just Shoot Me.) The Pew polling organization itself: Muslim Americans: Middle Class and Mostly Mainstream "Mostly." Except for the 1-in-4 males of military age who support terrorism. How far down does Pew bury its own lede? Well, in "Key Findings," we have to wade through five bullet-points, including ones about such scary-important factoids as "a large majority of Muslim Americans believe that hard work pays off in this society" and "Roughly two-thirds (65%) of adult Muslims in the U.S. were born elsewhere" -- before coming to this:
Muslim Americans reject Islamic extremism by larger margins than do Muslim minorities in Western European countries. However, there is somewhat more acceptance of Islamic extremism in some segments of the U.S. Muslim public than others. Fewer native-born African American Muslims than others completely condemn al Qaeda. In addition, younger Muslims in the U.S. are much more likely than older Muslim Americans to say that suicide bombing in the defense of Islam can be at least sometimes justified. Nonetheless, absolute levels of support for Islamic extremism among Muslim Americans are quite low, especially when compared with Muslims around the world.Note Pew does not report the actual percentage of young male Muslims who support terrorism -- only noting the percentage is higher than among older Muslims. It then immediately reassures us that the number is quite low, "especially compared with Muslims around the world," but refrains from telling us what this number actually is, so that we can decide if it's "quite low" or not. 26%. "Quite low"? I'd say it's rather high, but then that's me. I have this weird touchiness about being killed by religious maniacs. I'd say that Pew worked pretty hard to slap some lipstick on this pig, but that might be considered Islamophobic. NPR: Okay, this one's a gimme. Probably shouldn't bother. But in the interests of completeness: Pew Study Sees Muslim Americans Assimilating. USAToday's Blog Headline: Poll: Muslim Americans overwhelmingly Democratic, but conservative on many issues One issue they seem to take a more liberal opinion on: Murder. Detroit News. Okay, in fairness, they don't want to have their offices blown up. But still: Survey: Muslims largely assimilated in US It's a big hanging curveball, and of coure the UK Guardian jerks it out of the park. US Muslims more assimilated than British Another gimme -- The BBC. The gold standard of international reportage:
Muslims 'well integrated' in US US Muslims tend to feel positive about US but not always welcome
Muslim Americans are largely integrated in US society and moderate in their views, a nationwide survey suggests. Oh -- and right next to this article on the BBC's webpage? This picture and caption -- from back in January (!) -- for "context:"
US Muslims tend to feel positive about US
but not always welcome
In addition, younger Muslims in the US are more likely than older Muslim Americans to say that suicide bombing in the defence of Islam can sometimes be justified....which seems cribbed from Pew's front-page digest of its findings. In other words, Allah Pundit at HotAir is actually a more skilled journalist than the entire frigging BBC. Finally, for fairness. Here's one news outlet that bravely, and accurately, reports the poll's most important headline right in the article's, um, headline: One in four younger U.S. Muslims support suicide bombings Which news outlet had the courage and integrity to actually report the unvarnished, unbowlderized news? Pravda, the infamous former/current propaganda organ of the Russian government. Actually, clicking on the one link on Google's front page that mentions the support for terrorism angle (from the Malaysia Star -- getting the story right that US papers deliberately get wrong), one can find similar articles (and blog posts) noting the 26% figure. But obviously, the majority of the media worked very hard here to not report a key finding from a major poll with significant ramifications for US security and foreign policy. This is what j-school taught them? How to actively withhold information from the public? Thank God we have Allah, and of course Pravda, to tell us The Truth.
Even More... Surely the Washington Post wouldn't bury the truth, would it? Survey: U.S. Muslims Assimilated, Opposed to Extremism Yup.
Comments
A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Posted by: HerrMorgenholz at May 22, 2007 09:38 PM (K/lgF)
Posted by: Toby928 at May 22, 2007 09:44 PM (ATbKm)
I hear you HerrMorenholz.
Wouldn't it be nice though, if you could get a courtesy call before they decided to go Jihad.
" Thanks for the call Abu, no we won't be home when you come over but help yourself to what's in the fridge."
Course , if he happens to pick the poisoned fallafel...
Posted by: captkidney of the border patrol at May 22, 2007 09:45 PM (E2Hsv)
Posted by: captkidney of the border patrol at May 22, 2007 09:47 PM (E2Hsv)
I think that's right on, Herr.
Anybody want to take a stab at explaining why my Irish & Italian great-grandparents never felt the urge to blow them up some Americans? The Germans? Poles? Lithuanians? Greeks?
They just went to work, sent their kids to school, built churches and police departments. In short, they became the mainstream.
Muslims? On my radar scope, the ones who can afford it live in rather high-tone suburbs, and keep to themselves. The ones who can't were brought here by the govt or the geniuses in the Catholic Church. They take the money and keep to themselves.
Posted by: rickinstl at May 22, 2007 09:50 PM (C6YJu)
Posted by: mbruce at May 22, 2007 10:01 PM (LLCm9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnQ2xRiI5-w
FROM APRIL 2006
NSFW?
Posted by: relipaundit at May 22, 2007 10:08 PM (vZ8wJ)
Posted by: Velociman at May 22, 2007 10:12 PM (2+Qms)
This is just awesome guys. So, do you figure American Muslims hate our freedoms? or just the fact that our women don't wear bedsheets? Maybe both.
Posted by: rho at May 22, 2007 10:17 PM (8eBMH)
I won't know until I hear Ron Paul's take on the survey.
Posted by: Toby928 at May 22, 2007 10:18 PM (ATbKm)
Posted by: mbruce at May 22, 2007 10:20 PM (LLCm9)
I want some of whatever Ace is using. You've been on fire for days.
I think it's that somehow he's been getting laid.
Posted by: max at May 22, 2007 10:21 PM (HDGG5)
"Neener neener" is probably poor taste, but I imagine the temptation will be great.
Posted by: rho at May 22, 2007 10:26 PM (8eBMH)
and HerrMorgenholz who seems to want to go to war with American Muslims.
That's a pretty stupid leap in your thinking. The kind you've become famous for.
Here on planet Earth, we took that as a reluctant noting of the possible need for self-defense against nascent head-choppers.
You're probably the only person who read the comment who's take on that comment was "go to war".
Does that tell you anything?
Posted by: rickinstl at May 22, 2007 10:30 PM (C6YJu)
Finding the link, so you don't have to.
On the one hand, bully for us, on the other hand, a little late, on the gripping hand, what the hell is an intel source doing talking to ABC about it ?
Posted by: Toby928 at May 22, 2007 10:32 PM (ATbKm)
Auditioning for a top job in an upcoming Democratic administration?
Posted by: Drew at May 22, 2007 10:37 PM (gNyUT)
Maybe they read the blog.
Posted by: Toby928 at May 22, 2007 10:40 PM (ATbKm)
That's a pretty stupid leap in your thinking. The kind you've become famous for.
Oh? I thought majestic leaps of speculation were par for the course here. Poor Ron Paul didn't drop-kick some delusional kid at a campaign stop and he's got "Truther" credentials. I just wanted in on the fun.
on the gripping hand, what the hell is an intel source doing talking to ABC about it ?
Doing what only a fool wouldn't anticipate. When did the CIA become a non-political agency? (Hint: that's part of why a burly foreign policy is so often a poor choice.) But, to back up a little:
On the one hand, bully for us
So, if there's "blowback" to our destabilization, who gets the blame? Besides the people who actually retaliate, I mean. Clearly they are at fault. But does the attempted destabilization--enacted without anything that can even be interpreted as a declaration of war--share any of the blame? Or does it stand alone, unassailable, as a paragon of perfect virtue?
Posted by: rho at May 22, 2007 10:44 PM (8eBMH)
The Japanese people are our friends, not our enemies like some'd have you believe, this is just false on the face of the facts Frank.
I'll take that in $20s if you could Muhammad, thanks for your support.
Posted by: Col. Rev. Dr. John (Jack) Murtha, D. (PA) Esq. at May 22, 2007 10:48 PM (2WK36)
Yes. Its hot pursuit, blowback as it were. I'd prefer to be a little more upfront, given the blatant actions by Iran to kill our soldiers.
Posted by: Toby928 at May 22, 2007 10:50 PM (ATbKm)
Oh? I thought majestic leaps of speculation were par for the course here. Poor Ron Paul didn't drop-kick some delusional kid at a campaign stop and he's got "Truther" credentials. I just wanted in on the fun.
Have you been playing around the light socket again? Or did you stop playing around the light socket?
Hard to tell if you're truly retarded or just over-stimulated.
Wash down a handfull of Percocet with a pot of strong black coffee and report back in the morning.
Posted by: rickinstl at May 22, 2007 10:50 PM (C6YJu)
Posted by: Toby928 at May 22, 2007 10:55 PM (ATbKm)
I think it's that somehow he's been getting laid.
Nah, he's just on a three day hobo killin' spree/bender. Gets the juices flowing.
He'll probably disappear for a couple of days now.
Wash down a handfull of Percocet with a pot of strong black coffee and report back in the morning.
Make that a fifth of vodka instead of coffee -- then don't report back.
Posted by: mesablue at May 22, 2007 10:59 PM (DzeyU)
Posted by: mesablue at May 22, 2007 11:04 PM (DzeyU)
Posted by: DaveS at May 22, 2007 11:06 PM (C3jq+)
1 in 4 is dangerously close to the 1 in 3 rule that justifies killing two innocent people in order to kill the guy who is trying to kill you. Why the fuck are we letting these people into our country? This isn't "blowback" it is their religion. The Great American Religious War c. 2021-2035 wouldn't even have to happen if people had bothered to stick with the centuries old strategy of keeping muslims as far away from civil society as possible. This is just the begining.
Fuck you rho. Why do you feel the need to come to this blog, annoy us about your unelectable/J.B.S. canidate, offer pointless insults (seriously dumbfuck, "they hate our freedoms" may be an attempt to mock the intelligence of people in the comment section, but you are the only one who sounds stupid) and apologize for religious fanatics? Maybe it is time to put down your bong and read up on the history of Islam.
Posted by: mike at May 22, 2007 11:08 PM (/InkS)
OT: You guys really have to go check out WickedPinto's blog tonight. It's really getting out if hand.
He did put up a picture of his girlfriend, though.
Posted by: mesablue at May 22, 2007 11:09 PM (DzeyU)
Posted by: Jason at May 22, 2007 11:13 PM (+HOzK)
Rho, as a reasonably intelligent, professional, educated, bisexual chick let me say this to you. Your little snarky preening is offensive and repugnant. There are, in point of fact, substantial numbers of Islamists in the world who would cut my head off for the crime of being literate, not to mention the crime of wanting to bang Milla Jovovich. Thus, I take this subject quite personally. I'll be one of the first up against the wall. Or, well, actually under it after its built to be pushed down on top of me. Yes, in fact, there are portions of the American Muslim community who hate our freedoms and who hate that women don't wear bedsheets. Yes, in fact, it's perfectly appropriate for my response to that subsection of utter wankers who want to force sharia law down my throat to be that they better be a better shot than I am. They. Want. To. Kill. Me. Me, personally, for the crime for having a vag and a brain.
I grew up in Michigan and there are portions of Dearborn that I would now be afraid to walk through without at least wearing a hijab. Hell, yes, I'm frightened of the fact that an archaic, sexist, illogical, irrational, utterly fucked up version of Islam is becoming attractive to younger Muslim males. To steal from Roger Simon, I believe, I didn't care about Islam until Islam began to care about me. And it cares about me a great deal. To the Islamist, I am their worst nightmare. I am uncovered meat. Don't give me that this isn't a problem here. If it's not, then Aayan Hirsi Ali wouldn't need bodyguards.
For pity's sake, I have to hear all the time from my leftist friends how the Westboro freakshow is actually representative of all Baptists. But when a poll like this comes out that says that 26% of American Muslims think that suicide bombing is a-ok, well, then it must be our fault! And if you point it out, why, you hater you! It's pernicious and insulting.
Posted by: alexthechick at May 22, 2007 11:30 PM (rma0g)
And Tim McVeigh wasn't a Moslem either! Nyah!
Posted by: ASTFM at May 22, 2007 11:32 PM (K8zMY)
Posted by: mesablue at May 22, 2007 11:39 PM (DzeyU)
Posted by: Mark V. at May 22, 2007 11:52 PM (X5HHU)
If you care to read anything at all by bin Laden or Zawahari, including both of bin Laden's fatwas, the 1996 and 1998 one, they make very clear their main objection to the US is our freedom, and the ONLY way they will as Muslims stop making war on us is if we submit to Islam. Become like the Taliban's Afghanistan.
OF COURSE Most American Muslims hate America, our freedom to do and live as we please. If nothing else a man can renounce Islam for say, Christianity, and all Muslims are required as an article of faith to kill him. How could any Muslim NOT hate America that gives a Muslim freedom to reject God? Nothing could be a greater blasphemy, and you know how Muslims react to blasphemy (by killing people and blowing stuff up).
You cannot be a Muslim and an American, because to become an American means taking as articles of faith things that are incompatible with Islam: all men are created equal, endowed with their creater certain inalienable rights; due equality under the law; allowed to practice their religion due their concience privately; secular law beats God's law handed down through Mohammed, etc.etc.
You can't have Sharia and the Constitution. Since every Muslim MUST as a Muslim want to impose Sharia everywhere, of course they hate us.
Very likely the survey under-reports feelings as Muslims generally try to hide their extreme hatred and contempt for non-Muslim societies and peoples when not in Muslim lands.
Posted by: Jim Rockford at May 23, 2007 12:04 AM (4878o)
Posted by: E Buzz Miller at May 23, 2007 12:09 AM (2WK36)
Alex and Jim-
Bravi- you've put it better than I can. Note as well how rho has disappeared... no posts in the last 90 minutes. Almost like he's over drowning his sorrows in Kos-land...
tmi3rd
Posted by: tmi3rd at May 23, 2007 12:10 AM (xVX2n)
Posted by: mike at May 23, 2007 12:27 AM (/InkS)
I was intrigued by the "killing civilians to defend Islam" question.
Someone should do a comparison study with Christians.
Posted by: TallDave at May 23, 2007 12:48 AM (odS+4)
Posted by: TallDave at May 23, 2007 12:49 AM (odS+4)
Note that young, male American Muslims are against the war in Afghanistan.
It is my strong belief that American leaders had a moral obligation to attack those who perpetrated the 9-11 attacks. Do you disagree? Is 'destabilization' so important in your world view that we should allow our enemies to attack us unfettered?
If not, then decouple the Iraq and Afghani campaigns and recognize that a sizable portion of American Muslims think it's okay to chop YOUR head off, at least some of the time.
Posted by: Nom de Blog at May 23, 2007 02:59 AM (wTSkN)
Well, Alex the chick should rethink some of her leanings. First of all, the Wahabists are following the Koran.... literally. There is nothing that they say that isn't in the Koran. Those who don't take it literally are going to be fighting a losing battle and should give up now. This is a war that will eventually take out all of Islam, not because we want to destroy a religion, but because we are forced to.
Muhammad says it's ok to lie and break treaties with non-Muslims. This means any promises or agreements made by a Muslim to us non-Muslims is worthless. This also means their word is worthless unless we are also Muslim. Very convenient.
Islam does not respect anyone but the devout Muslim man. Not woman, not child, not unbeliever. Everyone else is property.
Alex, make your decision now... because pretty soon, you won't have a choice. You say you fear walking down the street without a hajab in Dearborn Michigan... this is only the beginning. Step away from them and come to our side. We are the ones who believe in mutually assured safety and choice of religious practices that do not force others to submit. I know it sounds kind of corny to say, but the USA is the only hope for freedom and liberty in the world and everywhere else is turning into a cesspool of totalitarianism. Look at Britain, look at France... they're looking at losing their national identity in less than 30 years if they don't act now... and they show no sign of acting.
Well, I hope that you don't make the wrong choice.
Posted by: BobDog at May 23, 2007 04:18 AM (SbEi6)
Posted by: someone at May 23, 2007 06:19 AM (LS1TS)
Rho: Interesting take on the Constitution, and a decent job of mind-reading. The point of my comment, you self-important, bloviating asshat, is that Muslims the world over, including America, are already at war with me. You see, dipshit, I won't let my daughters be forced into burkhas, or my son turned into instant "Salsa for Allah" in some train station. While the principle of self-defense may seem foreign to a spoiled pants-pisser such as yourself, it was well understood a couple of hundred years ago by folks named Madison and Jay and Hamilton and Jefferson and the like. Could they have foreseen Muslim violence in America? Probably not. But the principle and need for the people to defend themselves took no special skills in fortune-telling. Would that they could read minds like you can, you pretentious little fuck.
Posted by: HerrMorgenholz at May 23, 2007 07:20 AM (K/lgF)
Posted by: Sandy Norris at May 23, 2007 07:34 AM (3W5xK)
Posted by: carin at May 23, 2007 09:05 AM (Eefci)
Posted by: Slublog at May 23, 2007 09:10 AM (R8+nJ)
Posted by: rknight at May 23, 2007 09:18 AM (EUCqB)
That's actually the title wiser gave it someone.
Ace is getting all respectable up in this piece, he's got an NRO link.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at May 23, 2007 09:39 AM (QTv8u)
Posted by: Wickedpinto at May 23, 2007 09:44 AM (QTv8u)
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at May 23, 2007 09:51 AM (KeOQp)
SFGate headline, subhead, first paragraph:
'Troubling' views on suicide bombings 78% of U.S. Muslims opposed, but young adults are less sureAbout 1 in 4 young adult American Muslims says suicide bombings against civilian targets "to defend Islam" can be justified rarely, sometimes or often, according to a new Pew Research Center poll -- a finding that disturbed American Muslim leaders and thinkers across the country.
I don't know what to think about SFGate being more conservative than USA Today. I can only guess that USA Today feels the need to spin everything positive.
Posted by: Roy at May 23, 2007 09:59 AM (RNbCq)
Posted by: Dave in Texas at May 23, 2007 10:00 AM (pzen5)
Posted by: Wickedpinto at May 23, 2007 10:08 AM (QTv8u)
Posted by: someone at May 23, 2007 10:43 AM (LS1TS)
thewickedpinto was a sort of accident, it was just gonna be a test blog so I could clean up my posts, then mesa started screwing around, and in came wiser. So thewickedpinto stridently avoids anything serious, basicaly it's just a place where everyone gets to pick on me, and I can feel victimized.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at May 23, 2007 10:47 AM (QTv8u)
"Psst: Some of that "backlash" you feel may be due to the 26% of young American Muslim males who would like to kill Americans. Just a thought. Sometimes people take a little thing like murder personally. "
Sorry Ace. You don't get to have a backlash because you are a white person (or a Jew; i am presuming this because your racist hate-filled diatribes are typical of white people or Jews). Only people of color get to have a backlash because all conflicts are a result of haves vs. have-nots, oppressor vs. oppressed. White people and Jews hold power economically, so therefore people of color cannot be held responsible for their actions and beliefs. Muslims have a group identity percieved by educated liberals like myself that is foreign, dark skinned, and oppressed. Therefore who can blame them for wanting to kill us?
Posted by: Jimmy the Dhimmi at May 23, 2007 11:14 AM (RIPcF)
Well said.
Posted by: beta male with pretensions at May 23, 2007 11:40 AM (ATbKm)
That should be front page news in every newspaper on the planet. It's rather obviously the most impotant social or cultural news since Lenin and Trotsky started playing with Marx' ideas ... or since a short German with a funny moustache found a few pals to embrace his special "solution" to the Jewish "problem."
That isn't hyperbole. This is critically important. And I suspect within 10-20 years, everyone will KNOW how important it is. Tragically.
I just can't believe we're all going to ignore it NOW, when we might actually be able to do something about it.
This is unbelievable.
Posted by: Professor Blather at May 23, 2007 11:53 AM (HBAny)
But I wanted to bring up one thing. You repeatedly say "26% of young Muslim males", but from what I've read, that rate is for young Muslims in general, both male and female. If that's the case, it's very likely that the number is actually significantly lower for young women, and higher for young men.
I've only read the press release blurbs, did the actual full text of the poll specify that the 26% was for young males only, and if it's for both men and women, did it include a breakdown by gender showing, for instance, maybe 40% support among young males and 12% support among young women?
Posted by: Samurai at May 23, 2007 11:59 AM (qFTEe)
I grew up in Michigan and there are portions of Dearborn that I would now be afraid to walk through without at least wearing a hijab. Hell, yes, I'm frightened of the fact that an archaic, sexist, illogical, irrational, utterly fucked up version of Islam is becoming attractive to younger Muslim males. To steal from Roger Simon, I believe, I didn't care about Islam until Islam began to care about me. And it cares about me a great deal. To the Islamist, I am their worst nightmare. I am uncovered meat. Don't give me that this isn't a problem here. If it's not, then Aayan Hirsi Ali wouldn't need bodyguards.
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The above was a simply outstanding post. Outstanding. It deserved to be repeated.
Posted by: Professor Blather at May 23, 2007 12:01 PM (HBAny)
Ace, great work, keep it up. This is a great example of why there has not been an attack since 9/11. It has nothing to do with "fighting them over there", or the "war on terror". They have already won the war, we bend to their will, bend over to their will. Our media might as well be Al Jezerra, Osama himself could ride a herd of elephants over our border without being noticed. Homeland security is a joke, and muslims just have to be patient, an attack in the U.S. would only set them back. As it is, muslims get more positive PR than our own troops. Anyway, great post Ace.
Posted by: bmac at May 23, 2007 12:08 PM (WUw1Z)
Someone should have put a picture of a charred infant from the 9-11 attacks next to the eeeeeeevil redneck graffiti.
You know, for context
Posted by: TMF at May 23, 2007 12:24 PM (KTgUG)
And slublog, thanks for having my back. It's appreciated.
Posted by: alexthechick at May 23, 2007 12:26 PM (SHHaV)
Well ACE, you've made the big time now.
Rush is qouting this topic as we speak. So, yeah.....im sure your hit rate is about to sharply go up if it wasn't already in the Nthillions already 
Posted by: Nth at May 23, 2007 12:29 PM (PV/4J)
Posted by: get your gun at May 23, 2007 12:29 PM (j9PRG)
Rush is reading portions of this post on the air right now. and he specificaly referenced you.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at May 23, 2007 12:29 PM (QTv8u)
Posted by: type7 at May 23, 2007 12:31 PM (1alN/)
It was weird to hear Rush say "Ace of Spades Headquarters".
Until now, I've thought all of you people existed only inside my head for my amusement.
Posted by: mesablue at May 23, 2007 12:34 PM (DzeyU)
Posted by: mesablue at May 23, 2007 12:35 PM (DzeyU)
I was thinking something like that too type7.
All of the rush listeners who might now be checking in on Ace's place expecting this as a standard are gonna be thwacked with a screech post.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at May 23, 2007 12:44 PM (QTv8u)
If only they'd stop planning to suicide bomb our country and send funny e-cards instead. If they really wanted to disrupt activity, they'd forward e-mails about a sick little girl whose family needs you to forward her saga to 15 people you know so that AOL will reimburse the family, like the one my sister in law has sent every 2 months for the past 10 years.
I gotta believe that Muzzies in this country know that Americans will come down on them like the hammer of Thor if there's another large-scale attack. Religious leaders have to be policing their own, especially given that our society hasn't become a complete pushover state like the faggot pussies in the UK/Europe. As far as the 26% dumbfucks in Transitional Adulthood, they just learned to hate America like many other public skool graddits.
But if someone wants to suicide bomb the ACLU HQ....
I can tell you that when I ran the Personnel shop at a major AF base in Europe a couple years ago, I knew exactly how many Muzzies (at least the dumb ones who self-identified) were stationed on my base....as well as all the pagans, Satanists, Jehovah's Witnesses, and assorted other wierdos, who populate our Air Force in surprisingly high numbers.
Just my perspective inside the old Dar-al-Harb.
Posted by: IlliniGuy at May 23, 2007 12:47 PM (O28xr)
No F bombs or porn references for the next 24 hours. Do. not. mention. anything. about. hobos.
Posted by: Nice Deb at May 23, 2007 12:50 PM (9P6EO)
Am I reading this correctly? A clear majority of US Muslims deny the basic truth behind the defining even of the 21st century, as well as their nation's response the defining event?
Relatively few Muslim Americans believe the U.S.-led war on terror is a sincere effort to reduce terrorism, and many doubt that Arabs were responsible for the 9/11 attacks. Just 40% of Muslim Americans say groups of Arabs carried out those attacks.
http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=329
How can I be expected to just keep smiling politely at these people?
Posted by: CJ at May 23, 2007 01:08 PM (9KqcB)
Yeah, I was being snarky. I apologize for that. But can we clear this up? Is this a global war on terrorism? Or a global war on Islam?
If we're fighting terrorism, then we are by definition in a reactive mode. We find likely terrorist cells, we infiltrate and/or destroy them, we move on to the next. Even if they haven't actually committed terrorism, we must wait for some indicator that they are likely to.
But, if as ace points out, the real story is that a quarter of Muslims support suicide bombing, and if that survey is indicative of anything more dangerous than reflexive partisanship with ideological and religious brethren, then we really should be fighting Islamism (or radical Islamism in any event).
You and I both know that the US is never going to formally declare war on Islam. That's absolutely verboten.
To restate my question in another way, why do 25% of American Muslims support suicide bombing? If it's entirely religious in nature, we're fighting this battle the wrong way. If it's in reaction to what we're doing now, we're fighting this battle the wrong way. Maybe it's both. Then we're still fighting this battle the wrong way.
Anyway, congratulations on the Rush-plug, ace.
Posted by: rho at May 23, 2007 01:16 PM (8eBMH)
Yes, of course there's another group who believe similar things. They are called Democrats:
Democrats in America are evenly divided on the question of whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance. Thirty-five percent (35%) of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know, and 26% are not sure.
Kinda scary, no?
Posted by: Drew at May 23, 2007 01:16 PM (gNyUT)
Posted by: alexthechick at May 23, 2007 01:19 PM (SHHaV)
Whew. Hid mine just in time.
Posted by: Slublog at May 23, 2007 01:20 PM (R8+nJ)
Posted by: calbear at May 23, 2007 01:22 PM (+gDZV)
Oh, you're no fun anymore. You're bourging out, man!
It used to be about the Lifestyle. Now, it's like I don't know you guys sometimes.
(sobbing into his Val-U-Rite)
Posted by: Knemon at May 23, 2007 01:25 PM (jm9RW)
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Posted by: HerrMorgenholz at May 23, 2007 01:32 PM (5aa4z)
It was weird to hear Rush say "Ace of Spades Headquarters".
Until now, I've thought all of you people existed only inside my head for my amusement.
This made me laugh!
Posted by: scout at May 23, 2007 01:36 PM (eD51V)
Posted by: bmac at May 23, 2007 01:37 PM (WUw1Z)
They consider themselves connected, however.
Posted by: Slublog at May 23, 2007 01:43 PM (R8+nJ)
Lets put this another way: what if the poll (and everyone knows here how I feel about polls *spit*) said 25% of Americans think that gays should be put to death? Would the story be all about how most Americans think Gays should live in the country? How about 25% of Christians think women should stay barefoot and pregnant? 25% of Conservatives think welfare should end tomorrow?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2007 01:43 PM (wmgz8)
Only one problem with your "twist ending." Soviet Pravda and pravda.ru are totally unrelated, excepting the common name.
They consider themselves connected, however.
Posted by: Slublog at May 23, 2007 01:43 PM (R8+nJ)
Posted by: bmac at May 23, 2007 01:47 PM (WUw1Z)
*searching furiously for kitten pics*
Posted by: lauraw at May 23, 2007 01:48 PM (bH/MI)
And, a large number refused to answer some of the toughest questions.
Now, why would they refuse?
Posted by: mesablue at May 23, 2007 01:49 PM (DzeyU)
Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at May 23, 2007 01:53 PM (JefgB)
Doomed to submit? Maybe, but I don't think so. Somebody else (Steyn?) pointed out that this kind of absolutism--convert or submit or die--works as a threat until there's a violent backlash that as often as not involves severe retribution.
The poll doesn't break out whether these Muslims are foreign-born or native, nor whether they are converts. But I think it's safe to assume that a large majority of those who do not decry suicide bombings are either 1st or 2nd generation immigrants. This does as much to indict our immigration policies as anything else. And to belabor the point, Ron Paul is a bear on a stricter immigration policy, including border enforcement. I suppose that could mean that deep down he's a vicious xenophobic racist, but I don't think so.
(And maybe a bit if xenophobia re: immigration wouldn't hurt when you're talking about a world where a single loon can do a lot of damage very quickly and with little notice in our free society.)
Posted by: rho at May 23, 2007 02:03 PM (8eBMH)
Why is the MSM ignoring or soft pedaling this story? Isn't it their job to keep the American public informed?
They are so eager to report anything on the Evil Gov't, why don't they report that there are 26% of American Muslim "youths" willing to kill innocent American civilians just to defend their religion? Isn't that news?
Hell they report anything a gay has to say, and there is a smaller majority of them, so why ignore 26% of American Muslim "youths" willing to kill innocent Americans?
Is it that they don't care? Is it that they don't feel that it is important? Or is the true reason that they are too PC to even report something like this? Are they afraid of CAIR?
How can they ignore something like this when we already have examples of American Muslim youths harming innocent Americans. Did they forget that idiot American Muslim youth that tried to run people over at UNC? Or the American Muslims youth that killed all those Jews in Seattle?
They are either too scared to report it or they have already accepted dhimmihood and are too busy getting fitted with burquas to report it.
Posted by: Mr Minority at May 23, 2007 02:09 PM (NJi0O)
I realize that people are on their best behavior because Rush's fans are checking the site. However, I'll throw a monkey wrench in with a superfluous link to this site.
Someone's got to keep up Moronblog appearances. I'm just the guy to do it.
Posted by: physics geek at May 23, 2007 02:20 PM (MT22W)
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Posted by: Slublog at May 23, 2007 02:31 PM (R8+nJ)
And what, you guys wouldnt say suicide bombings would be justifiable to defend America? If you were the last ones left and it was the only tool at your disposal, you wouldnt do it for moral reasons, and let your country die?
Posted by: Tom at May 23, 2007 02:32 PM (2ri9w)
Posted by: Jim Treacher at May 23, 2007 02:34 PM (0jtcT)
Tom, pay attention or hit the road. We're not discussing whether "anybody wants to kill their fellow citizens..."
Also duly noted: you consider suicide bombing a legitimate tactic.
Correllary: You are morally reprehensible.
Posted by: Rocketeer at May 23, 2007 02:37 PM (GFaLW)
He already knows how I feel about that picture.
Dave hates me ever since I told him that the McRib blog concept has already been done.
Posted by: lauraw at May 23, 2007 02:37 PM (bH/MI)
Until we can grow up enough to realise that Islam is just NOT compatible to western values, and address it, we are doomed to submit.
But isn't that why we're engaging in this nation building exercise in Iraq? To try and jumpstart an Islamic Reformation that will enable them to coexist not just with the West, but with 21st Century humanity in general?
Bushco may ultimately be proven wrong in their attempt, but you can't say they haven't recognized the larger problem. Oh, and they also suck at communicating their message and explaining themselves. So, you know, uh. that hurts us too.
Posted by: Fred at May 23, 2007 02:37 PM (ivbbD)
Who dies most at the hands of suicide bombers, Tom?
Posted by: Slublog at May 23, 2007 02:38 PM (R8+nJ)
Yeah Dave, it should have been this one
http://www.ace.mu.nu/archives/1160972893210.php
Now that's a kitty.
Posted by: Veeshir at May 23, 2007 02:40 PM (zXUuJ)
Posted by: Dave in Texas at May 23, 2007 02:42 PM (pzen5)
HerrMorgenholz at May 23, 2007 07:20 AM (K/lgF) "While the principle of self-defense may seem foreign to a spoiled pants-pisser such as yourself, it was well understood a couple of hundred years ago by folks named Madison and Jay and Hamilton and Jefferson and the like. Could they have foreseen Muslim violence in America? Probably not."
Actually Thomas Jefferson not only understood that Muslims were the enemy, he did something about it. -
What Thomas Jefferson learnedfrom the Muslim book of jihad By Ted Sampley
January 2007
Democrat Keith Ellison is now officially the first Muslim United States congressman. True to his pledge, he placed his hand on the Quran, the Muslim book of jihad and pledged his allegiance to the United States during his ceremonial swearing-in.
Capitol Hill staff said Ellison's swearing-in photo opportunity drew more media than they had ever seen in the history of the U.S. House. Ellison represents the 5th Congressional District of Minnesota.
The Quran Ellison used was no ordinary book. It once belonged to Thomas Jefferson, third president of the United States and one of America's founding fathers. Ellison borrowed it from the Rare Book Section of the Library of Congress. It was one of the 6,500 Jefferson books archived in the library.
Continued here...
Posted by: Thomas Murphy at May 23, 2007 02:43 PM (WLXfJ)
Posted by: Homer Simpson at May 23, 2007 02:49 PM (kSuu1)
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at May 23, 2007 02:53 PM (pzen5)
There not a single piece of data in this that supports the idea that anybody wants to kill their fellow citizens...
And what, you guys wouldnt say suicide bombings would be justifiable to defend America? If you were the last ones left and it was the only tool at your disposal, you wouldnt do it for moral reasons, and let your country die?
Grade: F
The Pew question was "Can suicide bombings of civilian targets to defend Islam be justified?"
C-I-V-I-L-I-A-N. That's, you know, you and me---fellow citizens. And yeah, I'm sure we'd go all Wolverine on any invading Muslim armies to defend Armerica. But that is not what Pew asked. Dumbass.
Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at May 23, 2007 02:53 PM (JefgB)
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Pumkin is...Back for Vengence!
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Posted by: rho de Blog at May 23, 2007 03:17 PM (wTSkN)
The poll doesn't break out whether these Muslims are foreign-born or native, nor whether they are converts. But I think it's safe to assume that a large majority of those who do not decry suicide bombings are either 1st or 2nd generation immigrants.
I'd have to look at the poll again, but didn't the poll say the exact opposite? That American born, largely African American (Nation of Islam) respondents had the most extreme views. I'm looking for the survey again, but if I remember correctly, recent immigrants were less likely to want Sharia law.
As I see it from Ayaan Hirsi Ali's book, a radical reformation is taking place in Islam currently, and it's the cause of this clash of civilizations. Young educated Muslims are shaking off our Western values and embracing Wahabbi Islam.
Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at May 23, 2007 03:35 PM (7HH9U)
Posted by: Merovign at May 23, 2007 04:09 PM (th5T4)
Man, the AP report was shite. Looking at the Pew report itself, I can see I was talking right out of my ass WRT breaking it out according to origin. Pew did do just that. That's what I get for assuming they'd correctly surround the story.
Anyway, according to the Pew report, foreign-born are more likely to support suicide bombings than native-born. So yeah, the dangerous kind of Muslim is more likely to be foreign born.
Posted by: rho at May 23, 2007 04:17 PM (8eBMH)
Yep, that's about what read into the poll as well, Merovign.
Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at May 23, 2007 04:17 PM (7HH9U)
Anyway, according to the Pew report, foreign-born are more likely to support suicide bombings than native-born. So yeah, the dangerous kind of Muslim is more likely to be foreign born.
It's a mixed bag, though. Converts and native born were more likely to support Al Qaeda.
Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at May 23, 2007 04:19 PM (7HH9U)
The strongest support for Al Qaeda came from African Americans (I'm assuming converts to the Nation of Islam), while the least supportive of Al Qaeda were foreign born who moved here before 1990.
According to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Wahabbi Islam has been spreading across the world since the 1970's. I'd say that the Muslims who emigrated thirty years ago are just now being exposed and are more resistant.
We're seeking a reformation of the Muslim world with the war in Iraq, but I fear that the reformation (for the worse) has already happened.
Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at May 23, 2007 04:25 PM (7HH9U)
Democracy Everywhere! wasn't a terrible idea, but I think we've demonstrated that it's not tenable, at least in the ME. Or not tenable the way we tried to accomplish it. Would we have been better off having not even gone? I don't know, but I suspect the answer is yes.
Posted by: rho at May 23, 2007 05:41 PM (8eBMH)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2007 05:54 PM (wmgz8)
1) The Middle East is and has been gripped by colonialism, despotism, theocracy and other wildly destructive governments. These aren't people who were clamoring for democracy before we arrived. No slur on their character--they simply prefer their tribalism, as that is what has historically worked for them. We made a pretty valiant effort to fertilize the ground for democracy. They seem to be edging towards a theocracy. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, and given a proper model, it's possible the movement could grow. But you are aware of the growing Islamism in Turkey, aren't you?
2) Pure nonsense. If that's what you're getting, I'm overdoing the snark, or you're not reading carefully or at all. I even said "not tenable the way we tried to accomplish it"--did you miss that? Consider if we had secured the borders of Iraq first, before trying to subdue the interior. Preventing the influx of foreign fighters from the beginning would have been a good idea, no? It may have even made the difference.
Contrary to your insinuations, I fully expect America to come out well in the long run, but not due to the often incompetent and sometimes contradictory federal government. Americans are a resilient lot, and we're pretty good at doing for ourselves under extreme conditions. Islamism and Sharia law are the conditions under which losers live. They can make a lot of noise and smoke, but in the end, they're doomed to failure. Much like Communism, but with fewer enforced math and science classes.
Posted by: rho at May 23, 2007 06:44 PM (8eBMH)
I note only that he is too chickenshit to back up his assertions that I want to wage war with American mohhamedans, or to answer my accusation of him being an anti-American pussy who is probably busy sitting in his parents' basement masturbating when he is not annoying adults with his ravings or popping zits.
Posted by: HerrMorgenholz at May 23, 2007 07:07 PM (K/lgF)
Much like Ace, actually.
Posted by: HerrMorgenholz at May 23, 2007 07:13 PM (K/lgF)
Posted by: joeindc44 at May 23, 2007 07:24 PM (za2Xz)
I'd love to see the same question asked of registered Democrats and Daily Kos posters. How much ya wanna bet the % supporting the sucide bombers would be HIGHER than among the young muslims?
Posted by: Cincy at May 23, 2007 08:28 PM (Wjchh)
Really. Huh, you figure the Japanese were? How about the Koreans?
As for the second, you clearly have indicated you think this is a loss, you stated most plainly that you believe the effort in the middle east is over by using past tense in every mention of the effort, and stating that its over and that you believe it was a mistake. That means you think it was a failure.
In other words: you think there's something innate about Middle Eastern peoples that makes them incapable of democracy (despite the elections and creation of a constitution) and that we've utterly failed.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2007 08:44 PM (wmgz8)
Really. Huh, you figure the Japanese were? How about the Koreans?
I made this point in the Ron Paul: Catch the Fever thread--in Japan and Germany, we started with rubble. We didn't do that in Iraq. Also that 1945 was a long time ago, and the world is quite different now.
You're making assumptions. Go ahead, if that's what you want. It is of note (though if history holds you probably won't even read this correctly) that I thoroughly supported the experiment in democracy in the ME, and defended it loudly and well for 5 long years. You can take my apostasy however you want.
HerrMorgenholz:
HerrMorgenholz who seems to want to go to war with American Muslims.
That's what I said. Emphasis on "seems". You say you didn't mean that, I accept it. But it is a rather common pastime around here to make long assumptive leaps. I'm hardly the first or worst offender. Would it help if I apologized? I'm sorry, I retract my assertion that you want to wage war on Muslim Americans. I'm trying to be serious now, since somebody indicated that honest discussions are welcome.
Posted by: rho at May 23, 2007 10:15 PM (8eBMH)
HerrMorgenholz who seems to want to go to war with American Muslims.
That's what I said. Emphasis on "seems". You say you didn't mean that, I accept it. But it is a rather common pastime around here to make long assumptive leaps. I'm hardly the first or worst offender. Would it help if I apologized? I'm sorry, I retract my assertion that you want to wage war on Muslim Americans. I'm trying to be serious now, since somebody indicated that honest discussions are welcome.
I accept your apology, with an emphasis on pussy who is probably busy sitting in his parents' basement masturbating when he is not annoying adults with his ravings or popping zits.
I'm hardly the first or worst offender.
Perhaps. But you're the one that pissed me off today with your mealy mouthed horseshit.
Would it help if I apologized?
It would help if you grew a pair of fucking balls and recognized that we are at war and people want to cut both of our heads off, dumbass.
I'm trying to be serious now....
Don't start now...........
honest discussions are welcome.
intellectually honest discussions are welcome. (Ed.)
...Fixed.
Posted by: HerrMorgenholz at May 23, 2007 10:44 PM (K/lgF)
That's ok. Edwards says that the problem doesn't exist. I'm surprised all the Muslims didn't answer, "What the heck are you talking about? What's a suicide bombing?"
I'd like to add a question to the survey, "When the shooting starts, whose side will you be on, or will you be neutral/indifferent? Would you be willing to take up arms to defend the US against Islamic militants?
Posted by: Steve O at May 24, 2007 12:56 AM (NsTRV)
How come every time we have to question what events cause other peoples to act, but always assume U.S. Actions in the chain came from a vacuum in which we simply acted without any cause for the actions?
Is the U.S. the only country truly possessing such amazing and powerful freedom of will that our actions are the only ones that don't have one or more driving causes that made them inevitable?
If the assumption is being made that all other cultures and nations are simply puppets having their strings pulled by "driving actions" whereas America is always acting independently of any "root causes" what does this say about those other cultures?
Isn't that assumption somewhat bigoted? Heck isn't it more bigoted than anything I've seen (even snarkily) stated on this site? So why do those hunting for "root causes" think Americans are so superior to all other peoples? Isn't that one of the logical assumptions on which this entire line of questioning hinges on?
Or is only one side of the equation given to continuously show a deliberately unbalanced and slanted view of every argument?
So, racist, or deliberately slanted against America... is there a third option that doesn't equate to jackassery?
Posted by: Gekkobear at May 24, 2007 01:45 AM (3O+FT)
I'm trying to be serious now, since somebody indicated that honest discussions are welcome.
Actually, I appreciate your recent tone and comments, though I'm still not a Ron Paul fan.
Count me in as an apostate on Iraqi democracy, as well. When we rebuilt Japan and Germany, we were rebuilding countries with some history of civilized behavior who had gone off the rails. Even Japan had periods of internal peace, industrialization, and trade with the outside world before WW2. Iraq, in its short history as a sovereign state, has been at war with itself or other nations at least ten times. Add in Islam's incompatibility with peace and civility, and I doubt that Iraq will bear good fruit.
I still think that removing Saddam and checking on the WMDs was right, but the rest has been unsuccessful considering our limited will and ability.
Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at May 24, 2007 09:02 AM (f8/ya)
That's kind of the argument. I don't think anybody disagrees that people want to kill us. The question is why. "Because they're crazy" is, I think, an incomplete answer.
pussy who is probably busy sitting in his parents' basement masturbating when he is not annoying adults with his ravings or popping zits.
Actually this morning I'm playing stick-the-pacifier-back-in-the-baby's-mouth game. She spits it out; I put it back in when she complains. It's a lot like basketball, but I don't get paid the big bucks. About the same level of bodily fluids.
Posted by: rho at May 24, 2007 10:34 AM (8eBMH)
http://news___.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42957000/jpg/_42957489_graffiti_getty_203body.jpg
The text doesn't scale to the wall's perspective. Nor does the arrow delineate with the 'bump' in the wall. It doesn't even look like it's been Photoshopped - more like MSPaint-ed. I think someone scrawled 'naughty' things over a stock picture of the building.
It would be nice to have a higher resolution version of the picture, just to be certain.
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Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
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John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
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Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
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John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
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Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
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Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
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