1 It just teeters on the edge of being cheesy, doesn't it.
But - it's cool. Looks like it's going to be the summer of cheese.
Transformers, John Rambo - what else is coming soon?

2 You know what this country needs?

Rambo vs. The Terminator.

How could that not be the most awesomely awesome movie of all time?

3 Transformers looks horrible:  more "evil, incompetent US military" crap.

4 I assume the graphics are temporary placeholders.  Please, God, let them be placeholders. 

5 This is better than the original title and premise

John Rambo: When Senior Citizens Attack

Apparently the original idea was that Rambo was denied the Early Bird Special at his local Denny's because he's only 60 and not 62. Despite warning the manager, "Don't push it. Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe." he didn't get the discount. Well, John Rambo wasn't going to take that sitting down, so after taking a nap he heads to their corporate offices and gave them a war they didn't believe.

6 I think a lot of this is temporary - from the story, it seems Stallone tossed this together to whet the appetites of movie geeks and the guys at AICN.

As an aside, could Knowles possibly be more self-indulgent in his writing?  Just say "I got a message from Stallone."  I don't give a crap that you had to pull the turned off phone out of your bag.

7 I wish Stallone would reprise me - with all the American Idol success,  I'm a "sure thing"!

8 Company leader to Raven, come in Johnny.

Look, you've made what looks like to be a bad movie, they don't want anymore trouble, now come on in Johnny.

It's over Johnny...OVER!!!

9 For the record, First Blood was a kick ass movie. Brian Dennehy at his sleazy shifty best.

10 John Rambo kills a boatload (excuse the pun) of brown people.  How could anynoe not like this movie?!?!

11 Actually, it won't be released until next year...so not this summer of "cheese."

For what it's worth, it looks good, and I like what Ace says, "It's cathartic to see the bad guys get theirs."

12 Am I the only one tired of Hollywood licking Harry Knowles' ass crack? That fucker has been bought off more times than a Thai hooker. He actually gave a good review to the new Godzilla movie several years ago and wouldn't you know it, he was also invited to the set while they were filming it.

I like AICN, mainly for the TV stuff. But Knowles is a prostitute of the highest order. You could make a movie about killing his entire family and he'd give it a good review if you took him to the all you can eat chinese buffet before the premiere.

13 Am I the only one tired of Hollywood licking Harry Knowles' ass crack? That fucker has been bought off more times than a Thai hooker.

Now...be nice.

Thai hookers have never been known to repeatedly beg "for pwesents."

14 I know that guy who gets hit with an arrow explodes cause he falls back onto a mine, but for a second there I thoght he just exploded cause he got hit with an arrow shot by Rambo.  Not an explosive tip or dynamite tied to it - its just that the arrow was shot by Rambo.

In that misunderstood second, I was watching the greatest movie possible.

15

I cannot watch gory movies. Not for any moral reason, but they just creep me out. The times I did watch movies with gore in them I hid my face during the bad parts. My family refuses to watch horror movies of any kind with me because I hollar even when it looks like something is about to happen.

Then there is reality. When the video of the Islamic fanatics sawing off that guy's head was shown on youtube and Saddam Hussein's hanging, I tried to watch. But I ended up with my hands to my face.

I have never seen a Rambo movie or a Rocky movie. Weird, huh?

I know when Ace says "hard R" I CANNOT click it.  

16

John Rambo is

pouring gasoline on your boat!

17 I have never seen a Rambo movie or a Rocky movie. Weird, huh?

RWS - I recommend you watch the original "Rocky," then "Rocky Balboa."  Skip the rest.

Trust me, you won't be disappointed.  Both movies have a lot of heart.

18 rightwingsparkle -

I highly recommend you watch the first Rocky.  There is no gore in it whatsoever.  The final boxing match is intense, and there's a little incidental blood (nothing you wouldn't see in a normal boxing match), but certainly nothing that would fall afoul of your stated aversion to blood and guts.  Moreover, as slublog said, it's got a LOT of heart.  Really a fantastically inspiring, uplifting movie, and a bravura piece of shoestring filmmaking (Stallone wrote the script and spent years back when he was an unknown trying to get someone to make it).  If you're anything like most people, you'll feel really good after it's over.

19 I suggest you avoid The Rocky Horror Picture Show

20 I have never seen a Rambo movie or a Rocky movie. Weird, huh?

I hadn't seen a single Rambo movie in my life until renting "First Blood" several months ago.  It was quite good, a bit preachy in places but it's mostly a very tense and weird movie about a borderline-crazy Vietnam vet who runs afoul of a bunch of dick-swingin' cops in Colorado (I think).  It straddles nicely between violence/exploitation and 70s-style paranoia.

The first Rocky is even better.  There's nothing "violent" about it in the sense that the Rambo movies are.  In a sense it's a very conservative movie: a regular schlub gets a shot at the big time, realizes it, and takes it farther than anybody thought that he could.  He's a good, honest, hard-working man who loves his mousey woman.  If your heart isn't swelling by the end credits you are a monster made of stone and emptyness.

The most recent Rocky movie is winning if a little lo-fi and TV-movieish.  Again, nothing violent or gory (although the boxing sequences are refreshingly "real" compared to the rest of the installments).

/end selling of RWS on Rocky and Rambo

21 erm, "emptiness", not emptyness.  I was probably thinking of "The Pursuit of Happyness" there when I wrote that, which is another good "schlub against the world" movie.  It's quite different in tone to "Rocky" but pushes many of the same buttons.

No, honestly, it's good!

22

Adriennnnnnnnnne!

23 "For the record, First Blood was a kick ass movie. Brian Dennehy at his sleazy shifty best."

Brian!2008

24 Hey boy! Hey fool! Hey boy! You ready for another beatin!

I want Balboa! I want Balboa! You hear that, Old Man? You tell Balboa to come here! Nobody can beat me! You tell him what I said! And he's NEXT! I'm gonna kill him! Nobody can stop me! You tell Balboa that! I'M COMING AFTER HIM! YOU TELL HIM!

25 Yer gonna eat lightning!  Yer gonna crap thunder!!

26 Count me in as another moron who likes First Blood. As far as its gore content is concerned, I've seen episodes of 24 and CSI that are gorier. The second and third Rambo movies are pretty crappy, though.

19
I suggest you avoid The Rocky Horror Picture Show

Word.

27 "Coming soon: the eagerly-awaited Sundance production "Marion Cobretti."

I'd see that in the theater. No question.

28

Here is why I never saw the first Rocky when everyone in America did.

I had just spent the first 13 yrs of my life watching my Dad coach golden gloves boxing and watching my brothers box. I even use to spar with them. The years they were older I watched both of them get the beejus beat out of them and vice versa. Just before Rocky came out, my oldest brother was 16 or17 and fought this big mean black kid. My father was at the judges table and I was in the stands with my Mom. The guy started beating my brother so badly I saw blood spurt from somewhere. I flew out of the stands, jumped on the judges table and just as I was about make it into the ring, (boy, would that guy have been sorry!!!!!!!!) My dad grabbed me. I was totally freaked out. Totally.

The next day my brother's face was so swollen he didn't even look like himself and the whites of his eyes were completely covered in blood. His eyes were almost swollen shut.

There is more to the story, but suffice it to say I never watched another boxing match and I sure as hell didn't go see Rocky.     

29 Wasn't "First Blood" set in Oregon?
I'm not going to pop the DVD into the player to check but that's what I recall, anyway.

Ah, but after a quick check to Wikipedia it looks like it was set in Hope, WA.

My impression of this clip is that most of the blood and guts will get edited out. This is just to get the moron-set to talk about it.

30

RWS-

You woulda loved what happened in my first college hockey fight... bastard grabbbed me by the soon-to-be-gone pony tail and beat me like a little girl.

But yeah, I can appreciate why that might have turned you off to Rocky... and I still want to see other great finales in the Stallone lineup... Ray Tango... Joseph Dredd... and the unforgettable double feature of Lincoln Hawk and Joe Bomowski.

tmi3rd

31

RWS - If you're looking for a weekend movie to rent, I recommend "Homeward Bound." But I should warn you that 'Shadow' gets hurt towards the end of the journey.

Seriouly, Rocky isn't so bad. You should check it out. Maybe ease into it by watching 'The Champ.'

32

Adriennnnnnnnnne!

Talia Shire is (was) a cutie. Did you guys know that she was the therapist in the Geico caveman ads? I wonder if she'll be in the TV show?

33 David Caruso is in First Blood, playing a punk rookie ranger or something.  Makes me laugh to watch it (especially when he gets jacked up by Rambo).

34

Anyone see the alternate ending to First Blood?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg7wy4X0Y8c&mod

 

35 Looks okay, don't know how much of that scrawny little Sally Struthers clone I could handle, though.

36 I still haven't seen he last Rocky movie. I've heard that it's pretty good, from some people, and also that it's horrible, from some other people. The first Rocky was great, but the story got progressively more ridiculous with each sequel.

Believe it or not,  I am in Rocky II. I'm one of the kids chasing Rocky in II's "Gonna Fly Now" inspirational run. I'm also in some deleted scenes, alas, the DVD doesn't have any. That seems to have been the pinnicle of my fame.

37

FYI, Rambo II (the one where he goes back to the 'Nam) uses the same Rooskie helicopter gunships as Red Dawn. That redeems it.

Along with the bad Rooskie with the wart in the middle of his brow. He was a baddie in one of the Bevelry Hills Cop movies.

And now I am officially spurwinging. Squawk!

38

Heh.   Coincidence, or AOS Lifestyle^tm  prophecy? First Blood just came on Spike TV at 2am (ET).

39 RWS,

   I can watch any violence or gore in a movie, but I have zero/zilch/zip/nada desire to see real violence. I won't watch the Pearl video. I deliberately avoided the 9/11 videos for years. I used to enjoy boxing to a degree until I saw a fight where one guy ended up in a coma.

   Fictitious violence doesn't bug me, perhaps because I haven't had much experience with real violence. (I know special ops guys who couldn't play Doom 2....)

   Real violence is pretty horrible, except in those rare cases where, like, Buzz Aldrin is slugging some conspiracy nut. That stuff I can watch over and over and over!

40 After "Marion Cobretti" is released, the world eagerly awaits the production of "Joe Bomowski".

41

RWS, I'm just like you:  I cover my eyes and saw, "Tell me when I can look." 

I did see Rambo, and again, I like the hero winning over the bad guys.

42 Oh ya! Ima see this one!!

The part where the guy is praying and it "voice-overs" the scene where Rambo starts it up gave me chills.

I remember an Airwolf episode like that back in the 80s.. too cool.

43

Cut me Mick!  Ya gotta cut me!  Cut the eye Mick.

 

Make sure RWS ain't lookin.

44 Coming soon to a theater near you: Raymond Tango.

45 Why can't Rambo go after the Christian Coalition, after all, THOSE are the REAL enemies!!!

46 Off the subject a bit, but a few days ago when old ACE called Ron Paul a crank conspiracy type etc etc etc. Well it seems Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIAs bin Laden unit has come out and said Ron Paul is right. Now Scheuer is the guy who said on the record that Clinton and company had at least 10 times to kill bin Laden and would never pull the trigger, so he's no 9/11 truther or conspiracy type. He's a tough as nails former CIA unit kill squad guy. So ACE and the rest of the NeoCons, the Iraq war is a disaster, Bush is about to destroy the United States with his amnesty the Republican party might not ever recover from Bush. But I do know that on Jan 20th 2009 people will say, OUR LONG NATIONAL NIGHTMARE IS FINALLY OVER.

47

RWS:  the key to being able to stomach movie gore:  IT IS NOT REAL.  It's all prosthetics and Karo syrup with red food coloring.

Real gore is different.  I couldn't watch the Suns/Spurs Game 1 about 2 minutes to go.  Nash was spurting blood like a fountain.

48

So Southeast Asians have become the new Nazis in TinselTown. Cool. Diversity in action, it used to be the only villians could be English guys faking german accents.Now you know there's a whole bunch of English guys sweatin' trying to learn pigdin, chanting "Me So Horney. U wan Pork Fwied Lice?"

49

 He's a tough as nails former CIA unit kill squad guy.

Uh, bullshit, he sat in an office he was as much a tough as nails CIA unit kill squad guy as Valerie Plame was.  Are you trying to impersonate stupid typical moonbat liberal?  IF so, you don't have the talent.  If not, you're a moron.

50 Rocky was a great movie. Rocky Balboa was a terrible, terrible movie. The dialog and acting was so painful. Sly looked like a wax candle melting. His body modification is almost Michael Jacksonian in its absurdity. The veins in his chest look as if he had curly fries implanted just below the skin. Sly's lines for the first 40 minutes consist of "How ya doin'?" There is no plot surrounding the bad dialog. There are multiple absurd scenes, including the denoument: a ten round exhibition of a 58 year old fighter against the reigning champ that doesn't end in massive injury to the senior participant. There are cliches galore. Adrian shows up as a schmaltzy ghost by means of bad special effects. The TV-at-the-bar cliche is employed several times. There is the training montage that is decidedly unpleasant to watch. Rocky never shows any physical intimacy with his supposed new love interest -- not that I'd want to see it, really, but they could have suggested it. She's a good actress, but they give her nothing to do. In Rocky Sly knew that his face should look swollen after the fight. In Rocky Balboa, he apparently forgot that and the only swelling on his face was from the actor's massive use of steroids and human growth hormone -- other than that he looks fresh as if he had just stepped out of the shower as he waves to the crowd immediately after the fight -- not bad for having been punched in the face for 30 minutes. The antagonist, which drives a boxing movie, is not even developed as a character.

The sad thing is, the movie conceptually could have been very good. It's just that Sly had no idea how to execute it. Sly is soo divorced from reality, he can't invent a plot device that bears any resemblance to the real world.

I finished the movie on a bet that I couldn't make it through it. I nearly lost that bet.

51 No, it's not bull shit. The only Moron I see is cranky. A third rate Neo-con hack.

52 The "killsquad" part is decidedly bullshit. It was the very unkillingness of the squad that so pissed off Senor Sheuer.

53 Sheuer is full of shit, he screwed the pooch and has been talking smack from day one to save what little of his professional reputation that survives. His faux tough guy act is funny to watch though, he makes the gay teletubby look like a badass.

54 Sorry

it is not Bull Shit.

#53

Yep, he's really screwed the pooch alright. I guess the Iraq war is going so well the NeoCons can break out the Champaign and start the party. Sorry the only people screwing the pooch are the NeoCons who got us in this lousy war in the first place. Richard Perle, Wolfie Wolfowitz, Feith, Cheney and the local idiot, George W. Bush. Throw in Bill Kristol and the rest of the Weekest Standard crew . The GOP is going down the tubes and George Bush and his fellow NeoCons are responsiible

55 JimBoy, it's champagne moron.  Your lame attempt to impersonante an actual smart person with your "Weekest Standard" shot fell short since you have no ability to spell correctly much less put together any thought more complex than juvenile name calling .... you fucking moron.  Now go clean the pudding off your shirt and put your helmet back on you head beater.

56 So many misspellings. So much bald and inaccurate conjecture.
JimBo needs a hug.
But I wouldn't hug his dumb ass with bbeck's hairy arms.

57 and after the rest of these sequels: the one we've all been waiting for, "Lincoln Hawk."

(or would that be too Over the Top?)

58 Cranky, is that the best you've got, my spelling errors. No offense, you're weaker than the idiots at the Weakest Standard who've been advocating war with Iraq since 1997. Yes, little Billy boy Kristol and his 2 man show, the Project for a New American Century were taking out full page ads in the New York Times and Washington Post demanding Slick Willie Clinton start bombin Iraq and remove Saddam. Well cranky boy, we all know how well that one worked out. Face it Cranky, you and your fellow NeoCons are destroying the GOP and Conservatism. I suggest you put Vic Gold's book Invasion of the Party Snatchers How the Neocons are destroying the GOP on your reading list. Gold is Barry Goldwater's former Press Secretary

59

Oh, now he can spell but watch your capitalization.  JimBoy, did Clinton attack Iraq?  Did Iraq comply with the U.N. agreements it signed?  Was it the policy of the United States government, when Clinton was President, to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq?  How did John Kerry vote on that resolution?

If you stuck a thermometer up Saddam's ass what kind of reading do you think you'd get now?  Similar to yours?

60 Ohh my gawd, Saddam didn't abide by the UN resolutions. How many UN resolutions has North Korea violated?? Thankfully we haven't started bombing them. The NeoCons with their Jacobian nonsesne that we could bomb a Muslim country into being a Western style Democracy is one of the biggest blunders of the last 100 years. Before we invaded, Iraq was perhaps the most secular Arab country in the region. Women in western syle dress, today it's back to Burkas and Hijibs. The country had a large Christian population and they were left alone. Now they've fled the country. Saddam's press secretary is an Assyrian Catholic. Hussein was a brutal dictator, but every Arab country is run by a brutal dictator. I really don't care what Clinton and Kerry did or voted on. At least they didn't make one of the biggest strategic blunders in this country's history.

61 heh.

62 I started to point out strategic blunders in other US military campaigns but then realized JimBo is a retard so it's not worth it.

My bad.

63 Not meuch of a reply there Nom

64 First, I've been meaning to ask:  exactly what is a "neocon?"  Is there a widely accepted definition I can refer to?

Secondly, we've had an amazingly small casualty count in Iraq.  Maybe the smallest of any major conflict.  We succeeded in the main objective, regime change, in no time at all.  The post-war rebuilding is not really required but has the potential to pay huge dividends, hence the massive Iranian/ AQ/ Islamofascist-to-be-toe-tagged-later effort to dive us out.  Have Bush and the military and State (my personal favorite villains)  screwed up chapters in the story?  Of course they have.  It's called "war."  Look it up.  But what standard are we applying to the present conflict that would not have made other wars, say WWII just for an example, massive mistakes while we were in the middle of them?

Vietnam offered bad guys everywhere the principle that if you can make a war with the US a matter of nerves and stamina, we'll punk out.  This understanding was part of what brought bin Laden to attack us in the first place.  Like it or not, the question on the table is whether that perception will be rebutted and megalomaniacal scumbags with plenty of bodies to sacrifice will be less likely to think they can beat us, or whether it will be reinforced and repeated by every adversary we deal with from now on.

That should not be a hard choice.  It's fair to debate how we can best crush the enemy, but anybody who advocates yielding to him is either an amazingly shallow thinker or set against our country's interests for other reasons. 

65 exactly what is a "neocon?"

The Joos. 

Anyhoo, did Slublog actually recommend to RWS that she skip Rocky III?

Are you insane, man? 

66

Oh My God.

this is a joke, right?

I appreaciate that a human being shot with a .50 cal at point blank in a truck cabin will...oh my God.  Reminds me of nightmare on elmstreet when the kid stains his cceiling.

 

Um, the special effects are a little weak at points. worse than kill Bill.

 

But what Ace said about bad guys getting theirs.  Its sort of like the first spiderman, it wasn't a clean and anticeptic fight.  Goblin needed his ass kicked.  Spidy basically got his handed to him.  But, he hit back harder.  He took a beating.  Its not about a karate chop to the neck, its about fighting until you can't do so anymore.  Hey, and i know a burma activst or two that probably thinks the guy in the truck got off easy.

67 #65. Geee, when did chief NeoCon the local idiot George W. Bush convert to Judaism.?? NeoCons are the sons of ex Trotskyites. The permanent revolution..... ie Bush's global Democratic revolution. Jacobian utopians.

68 What the fuck does scheuer have to do with Iraq now? He's just another brokedick scrambling for his reacharound. My point was that his fuckups prior to all this mean that he's not somebody that should be listened to as an expert.
You're hot for ace, aren't you JimBo? That's cool, we're a pretty tolerant bunch.
If he hands you a bindle and asks if you'd like to see his basement, I'd pass.

69 Geee, when did chief NeoCon the local idiot George W. Bush convert to Judaism.?? NeoCons are the sons of ex Trotskyites.

Do you really need one of us to say it?

70 Woot! Now THAT'S the action movie I've been wanting to see since 9/11. Reluctant American warrior reluctantly returns to duty to show dictators & warlords & their bandit thugs what their true value in life is....about 1 peso.

Great action, bloody where called for, scary where called for, if it pimp-slaps the audience the way Tears of the Sun did, great. Look to see a lot of leftard film critics get all pissy & weepy because the "love and peace" crowd get the fate that would rightfully befall any of them in some Fourth World backwater ruled by monsters. Of course, the movie takes place in Burma, so there are probably no devotees of the "Religion of Peace" anywhere in it.  Mentally switch  Burmese thugs for Jihadi thugs, and it's still good. (Like the Burmese junta & the Golden Triangle warlords deserve to get a pass, anyway. Whole lotta bastards out there need a visit from John Rambo.)

Oh yeah, as for "Marion Cobretti", I'd sure go see that movie, too.

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�The president and his supporters claim that we�re now finally on the cusp of progress and that we must continue to stay the course,� Mr. Byrd said. �I�ve heard that before. Call me a skeptic, but we have heard this tune before. Yes, haven�t we?�

Antiwar protesters in the hearing room responded with cries of �Yes! Yes!�

Mr. Byrd later had the room cleared of protesters after they disrupted an answer by Gen. Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Mr. Gates said $11 billion of the requested money was for building 15,000 heavily armored vehicles designed to better withstand the roadside bombs that cause the majority of American casualties in Iraq.

The Pentagon also seeks $9 billion to repair and refit American equipment stocks. The administration is also requesting $1 billion to train Iraqi security forces, bringing the total 2008 request for training funds to $5.7 billion.

But Mr. Gates said that American troops, �under some of the most trying conditions, have done far more than what was asked of them, and far more than what was expected.�

 

 

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