The Planet's Got A Fev-eh... And The Only Prescription Is More Carbon Offsets

Above The Fold Update:

I hope more will be available later. I'd like to see Gore's full fillibuster.

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"The planet has a fever," Al Gore announced in his testimony on global warming.

The usual rule is that witnesses must submit their prepared remarks 48 hours before the hearing, so that the committee members may prepare questions. They suspended that rule for Gore, allowing him to submit his opening remarks 24 hours in advance.

Did he make that deadline?

Of course not. He submitted his remarks one entire minute before the hearings began.

Obviously this is an attempt to avoid being quizzed on his more ludicrous statements and challenged by factual rebuttal. The rebuttal will come later, but Gore won't have to sputter in front of the camera as he's caught in his various shoddy lies.

Is the media interested in that? Of course it's not.

Barton's "Questions:" Not really questions, but criticisms of Gore's outlandish claims, and good readin'.

"The first thing I want to address is the science of global warming as portrayed by the vice president's film, 'An Inconvenient Truth.' This is something that I think we absolutely have to get right. Even the mainstream media, Mr. Vice President, are now noticing that global warming science is uneven and evolving. We need to be deliberative and careful when we talk about so-called scientific facts," Barton, the ranking member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, said.
"In your movie, you display a timeline of temperature and compared to CO2 levels over a 600,000-year period as reconstructed from ice core samples. You indicate that this is conclusive proof of the link of increased CO2 emissions and global warming. A closer examination of these facts reveals something entirely different," Barton said.
Barton said a Science magazine article he was submitting for the record shows that historically, increases in CO2 concentrations actually lagged temperature changes by up to 1,000 years.
"The temperature appears to drive CO2, not vice versa. On this point, Mr. Vice President, you're not just off a little. You're totally wrong. And it's not just this one article; the president of the National Academy of Sciences agreed, under oath, last summer in an Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee hearing on this very point," said Barton.
Barton also noted that "historically, and repeatedly," CO2 levels have far exceeded concentrations now being reported, which are in the range of 380 parts per million.
"Indeed, CO2 levels in the past have exceeded 1,000 ppm, and average earth temperatures have been much higher then than they are today. We know these things. … [I]t remains a fact, and is clear from the data we do have, that for hundreds of thousands of years, CO2 levels followed temperature rise, not the other way around, as you preach," he said.
"You've also asserted that global warming will cause sea levels to rise by over 20 feet. The recent Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report indicates a rise of at most 23 inches.
"You state that there will be more and stronger hurricanes because of global warming. The IPCC report does not support this claim. You also state that malaria has been exacerbated in Nairobi because of global warming. The World Health Organization report does not support this allegation. In fact, malaria is not exclusively a warm weather disease – inhabitants of Siberia have long experienced malaria outbreaks," Barton noted.

Thanks to Alex.

Gore Refuses To Consume Less Energy: Energy use is going to destroy the world, but Al won't give up his heated pool for the cause:

t has been reported that many of these so-called carbon offset projects would have been done anyway. Also, carbon offset projects such as planting trees can take decades or even a century to sequester the carbon emitted today. So energy usage today results in greenhouse gases remaining in the atmosphere for decades, even with the purchase of so-called carbon offsets.

“There are hundreds of thousands of people who adore you and would follow your example by reducing their energy usage if you did. Don’t give us the run-around on carbon offsets or the gimmicks the wealthy do,” Senator Inhofe told Gore.

“Are you willing to make a commitment here today by taking this pledge to consume no more energy for use in your residence than the average American household by one year from today?” Senator Inhofe asked.

Senator Inhofe then presented Vice President Gore with the following "Personal Energy Ethics Pledge:

"As a believer:
· that human-caused global warming is a moral, ethical, and spiritual issue affecting our survival;

· that home energy use is a key component of overall energy use;

· that reducing my fossil fuel-based home energy usage will lead to lower greenhouse gas emissions; and

· that leaders on moral issues should lead by example;

I pledge to consume no more energy for use in my residence than the average American household by March 21, 2008.”

Gore refused to take the pledge.

Reduce his actual, real "carbon footprint"? Please. Al Gore won't even try to reduce his meatloaf footprint.

"Good For Her!" A CNN reporter says "Good for her" under his breath in response to Barbara Boxer's defense of Gore.

Posted by: Ace at 04:02 PM

Comments

1 I don't know about DC, but it dipped below freezing here in NYC area. The Gore effect has a footprint with a 200+ mile radius.

Posted by: Tushar D at March 21, 2007 04:06 PM (h76y6)

2 Is he anything other than a snake oil salesman? When are the politicos going to call him on his bullshit?

Posted by: Red at March 21, 2007 04:12 PM (mPIUW)

3 When he starts to threaten Hillary!

Posted by: at March 21, 2007 04:15 PM (Yn8HA)

4 Silly kids, rules are for Republicans , never for Dems.

Posted by: mbruce at March 21, 2007 04:19 PM (LLCm9)

5 http://miits.info/8130-wallpaper-oroscopo.html

Posted by: vgjhfl at March 21, 2007 04:22 PM (VeehV)

6 We have to stop ManBearPig, I'm super serial!

Excelsior!!!!

Posted by: Sinistar at March 21, 2007 04:27 PM (bSYRF)

KooKoo for Karbon Kredits!

(or just plain kookoo, who can tell, eh?)

Posted by: 5Cats at March 21, 2007 04:29 PM (cVijR)

8 I wonder if any of the Republicans even called him on missing the deadline. It would have been a good opportunity to at least hit him on the trying to hide something front.

Posted by: Drew at March 21, 2007 04:33 PM (gNyUT)

9 Hell no. The only prescription - is more cowbell!

Posted by: Mark at March 21, 2007 04:34 PM (ikdVG)

10 OT:

Ace overtakes Malkin wow!!!

http://www.statsaholic.com/ace.mu.nu+michellemalkin.com

Posted by: ulost_again at March 21, 2007 04:39 PM (56UMe)

11 Joe Barton called Gore out pretty well, but only WorldNetDaily seems to be publishing his remarks, and it's missing Gore's response. http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54808

The news outlets that did mention Barton (see ABC News) just gave a snippet of a conclusory-sounding quote from him ("you're not just off a little, you're totally wrong"); didn't include Barton's explanation of why Gore was wrong (citation of evidence that temperature rises preceded rather than followed carbon increases and other evidence); and spun it as Barton "attempting to discredit" Gore's arguments. Unbelievable. Actually, no: totally fucking predictable.

Posted by: Alex at March 21, 2007 04:39 PM (fgyj8)

12 Too bad the republicans are all such nimrods who can barely think on their feet.

Gore: "The world will end in 50 years because of Glowball Warming."

Dipshit senator: "Uhhhh... remember that time we went on that boat trip?"

I'm not kidding. That's about how it went.

Here's what I would have said:

Gore: "We have to end all capitalism to save the world from Glowball Warming."

Senator Fugazi: "Mr. Gore, can you explain why my constituents in Michigan were covered by a mile thick sheet of ice 12,000 years ago? Who was driving all the SUV's back then? The Gieko cavemen?
Also, if the planet is in such a crisis, why did you personally use 20 times the average American's energy last year?"

Posted by: fugazi at March 21, 2007 04:40 PM (pjOs6)

13 Good DAY, sir.

Posted by: fugazi at March 21, 2007 04:42 PM (pjOs6)

It is all Bush's fault.

Global War causes Global Warming.

Any idiot can see that.

Posted by: Tushar D at March 21, 2007 04:42 PM (h76y6)

15 The planet has a fever, and Gore is the rectal thermometer.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at March 21, 2007 04:45 PM (yrptY)

16 It has been said: When you politicize science, it is no long about science. It's about money and power.
This is what Al Gore is all about. He won an oscar and this is supose to vindicate and legitimize him. But how? Who voted to award him with the oscar?
The members of the academy and how many of these people have Phds. in a field of natural science?
None I would suspect. They were making a "political"
statement.
The attacks on this pseudo-science have to continue but talking about the heavy snowfall in anytown USA ain't gonna cut it. The attack has to be political as well. The point has to be made that even if a portion of the recommendations that Al Gore has proposed are put into law it will be the end of capitalism and put so much power in the hands of the federal government that the founding fathers will be spinning in their graves. The personal lifes of the citizens in this country could be controlled to the extent that life under communism in the old soviet union would be liberal in comparison.

Posted by: Tbird at March 21, 2007 04:53 PM (d0Yx8)

17 God, I hate that man.

Posted by: Nice Deb at March 21, 2007 04:55 PM (CX6/b)

18 I don't get it. The hatred this man inspires, yet the message seems real. Why did over half of EPA employees sign a petition to get the administration working on the issue? Why do nearly all scientists agree on this and the few that don't seem to be funded by entrenched energy interests? Why are at least 12 states suing the EPA over this? Why are animal and growth patterns changing? Why are winters warmer? Why is this a conservative or liberal issue? What is the issue? Keeping the world healthy or keeping business as usual? Why not develop new businesses that benefit all of us? Is that a conservative or a liberal mindset? Is it wrong to be concerned about the issues at hand and not be labelled as a Gore grandstander? OK. Shoot the messenger. It's Gore. But who will stand, identify the problem, and ask that all of us work together? Will you step forward and rather than float emotive arguments, try to make the world better? Why roll the dice on the only planet we have?

Posted by: Advised at March 21, 2007 04:59 PM (MUoTX)

19 OMG!!!!

Al Gore got to hand in his opening remarks late????!!!!

This has never happened, EVAR!!!

It isn't like they didn't know damn well what the guy was going to say. He has been saying the same thing all over the country. I hear he even put it in a movie or something.

But apparently, Republican Senators need advanced notice to nitpick his statement which is supposedly based on fraudulent science. A statement, mind you, which contained not one surprise. It isn't like the guy started testifying on stamp collecting or something.

Posted by: seattle slough at March 21, 2007 05:00 PM (H5l9d)

20 Global Warming is a smoke screen for the weak minded to hide behind, provided by the Dems, and it keeps you distracted from any other issue ie. Islamic Terrorist, you think its warm in the US now, if the get the oil in Iroq we can expect our country to get much warmer, for a few hours, from the nukes.Hell will be in session!!. I now return you to the latest new on A.N.S.s Baby. We are such sheep!!!.

Posted by: George Samek, CW-3 US Army Retired at March 21, 2007 05:03 PM (ozs/F)

Remember, Hillary! and Tipper Gore are still best buddies, so anything AlGore does is probably done with Hillary! pulling the strings.

I forsee AlGore getting some flak if Hillary! were to actually have some troubles in her campaign. If you can't beat em, distract em! Don't ask me questions, what about AlGore? (future Hillary! quote)

Posted by: 5Cats at March 21, 2007 05:04 PM (cVijR)

What I find amazing is the vast number of normal, well-educated Americans that take Gore seriously. In how many bald faced, some hilariously preposterous, lies has he been caught over the years? I know it takes more than one hand to count them.

Posted by: Fierce Scorpion at March 21, 2007 05:05 PM (CdPfY)

And what George says too. This Global Warming dog-and-pony show keeps the simple minded busy, less likely to actaully think about Islamic terror or other topics the Dems have trouble (weakness) with.

The more buzzwords they use, the less you need to think.

Posted by: 5Cats at March 21, 2007 05:07 PM (cVijR)

Why did over half of EPA employees sign a petition to get the administration working on the issue?

Uh, because they're liberal nimrods.

Why do nearly all scientists agree on this and the few that don't seem to be funded by entrenched energy interests?

Why if what you're saying is true is that statement a lie?

Posted by: Jay at March 21, 2007 05:08 PM (VZ0Yh)

25 Advised,

The problem is simply this. The far left have made this political instead of scientific. If you don't think this is about money you are kidding yourself. We all care about the earth. Most of us are willing to look at data that says the earth is warming, but there is no real proof that I have seen that it is human causing it.

I'm willing to do what I can to keep this earth clean and be environmentally aware, but I will not listen to hypocrites like Al Gore tell me how to live my life when he lives an extravagent lifestyle. I will not listen to scientists that have a political agenda either.

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at March 21, 2007 05:10 PM (ZLSG3)

26 I tend to really trust people more when they hang out with the beautiful celebrities in Hollywood.

Gives them gravitas.

Posted by: benrand at March 21, 2007 05:13 PM (sf4Oe)

27 I hope Al's next stop on his Enviro-Fearmongering Tour is Mars, where the temps are rising and the ice caps are melting. The Martians need you, Al! Tell them to ratify Kyoto and lose their SUVs! Because that's what causes Martian Warming, doncha know.

You can even take your private Space Shuttle (sure, it burns more fossil fuel in a day than the entire state of Kansas burns in two years, but just buy more offsets) to talk some sense into those Planet Murderers!

Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at March 21, 2007 05:16 PM (K+yGL)

28 Why does Al evidently know the effects of burning fossil fules yet he continues to do so at a great rate?

He didn't give away that fucking DVD, he sold plastic copies of it in plastic cases that were made in a factory and shipped all over the US. What is plastic made out of again? What does that factory run on again? What do those trucks run on again?

He didn't offer it up for free over the web, he sold it and used a lot of natural resources to line his pockets with profits from that "movie".

He's completely full of shit.

Posted by: benrand at March 21, 2007 05:18 PM (sf4Oe)

29 I don't get it.

Correctamundo!

Posted by: Judd at March 21, 2007 05:20 PM (CHpAu)

30 Fat Albert has my oldest son consumed by this cr@p & he won't shut up about it. I would sooooo like to get even. I'll miss the good old days when we only worried about bird flu & swine flu & ebola & west nile & lyme disease & syphilis & gonorrhea & even global cooling. At least they didn't try to extort money from you.

Posted by: CAD Daddy at March 21, 2007 05:25 PM (U6x6j)

31 Why did over half of EPA employees sign a petition to get the administration working on the issue?

This can't be a serious question, can it? Can you imagine the huge increase in funding, resources, hiring and promotions that would result from a Manhattan Project type of government effort to "solve" the "global warmng problem"? It is a never-ending Christmas present for the EPA is this issue gains traction.

Posted by: noprisoners at March 21, 2007 05:26 PM (zGtjs)

32 I didn't overtake malkin. Mu.nu, as a whole, did, but mu.nu has more than one hundred blogs in it.

Alexia and other traffic monitors can't separate out individual mu.nu sites. Or maybe they could, but they just don't bother to.

Posted by: ace at March 21, 2007 05:36 PM (+u1X0)

33 CO2 atmospheric concentration is at this moment at about 380 ppm. That is 380 particles per MILLION. One particle of CO2 in 2600 of athmospheric gases. Of this, human contribution is what fraction? 10%? 30%? Can anyone be serious when saying that adding another extra particle in 2600 is going to make a difference?

Posted by: valachus at March 21, 2007 05:37 PM (JVKtf)

34 "The planet has a fever,"

I think the planet just doesn't want to go to school today. Did the planet not study for a test? Hmmm?

Posted by: CAD Daddy at March 21, 2007 05:41 PM (U6x6j)

35 Gore refused to take the pledge.

How did he refuse? Did he just say, nyet?

Posted by: Red at March 21, 2007 05:44 PM (mPIUW)

Too slow, non prisoner beat me to the answer of " Why did over half of EPA employees sign a petition to get the administration working on the issue?"

I can answer it in 2 words JOB SECURITY. NP explains it better.

Posted by: Steve #2 at March 21, 2007 05:46 PM (uIMqK)

37

'THE PLANET HAS A FEVER'

Well, I'm hot blooded, check it and see

I got a fever of a hundred and three

Come on baby, do you do more than dance?

I'm hot blooded, I'm hot blooded.

Posted by: Tom vG at March 21, 2007 05:46 PM (A6ZZl)

38 Gore refused to take the pledge.

How did he refuse? Did he just say, nyet?

I picture a lot of eye rolling.

Posted by: Nice Deb at March 21, 2007 05:47 PM (CX6/b)

39 muslim oil causes global warming George Bush said so

Posted by: John Ryan at March 21, 2007 05:48 PM (TcoRJ)

40 You know those carbon footprint calculators? Has anyone every calculated The Goricle's carbon stomp? I don't think he can plant enough fake trees to offset it.

Posted by: Red at March 21, 2007 05:49 PM (mPIUW)

41 Someone should conduct an environmental impact analysis of a typical big-budget Hollywood film. I'm sure that we'll find that all the petroleum used, electricity consumed, water contaminated, water consumed, and explosions sending toxic fumes into the atmosphere has a very big carbon footprint.

We should gather these statistics for all of the movies that Leonardo Dicrapio has been in and present him with the report to see how he responds. Can we make Hollywood activist actors put their money where their mouths are and stop making movies?

Posted by: Bart at March 21, 2007 05:50 PM (+qnDQ)

42 Someone should conduct an environmental impact analysis of a typical big-budget Hollywood film.

They already did. The movie industry is one of the biggest polluters in Southern California.

Posted by: Red at March 21, 2007 05:53 PM (mPIUW)

43 Have you seen his picture on Drudge?
He has a deranged look about him.

Posted by: CAD Daddy at March 21, 2007 05:53 PM (U6x6j)

44 Bart,

Excellent idea!

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at March 21, 2007 05:54 PM (ZLSG3)

45 I was gonna say. Hollywood is one of the worst polluters in Cali.

Posted by: Sinistar at March 21, 2007 05:54 PM (bSYRF)

46 That is the problem with the left. They talk one way, but live another.

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at March 21, 2007 05:55 PM (ZLSG3)

47 That video is Awesome! Very telling, and as more people see these offsets as the scam that they are, Gore will always be seen as a hypocrite to everyone except the insane minority.

I so hope he runs for President. This is a perfect campaign commercial. If he runs, he will win the Dem nod and get crushed in the general. I can't think of a better scenario.

Posted by: Judd at March 21, 2007 05:56 PM (locqI)

48 Meatloaf is OK if it's offset with gravy and mashed potatoes!!

If I get paid not to eat beans, it's a win win situation.

Posted by: Dennis at March 21, 2007 05:58 PM (HPd5W)

49 Hey, seattle, if Gore is worried about the environment, why isn't he directing his testimony to the world's biggest, by far, polluter, China?

Has Professor Gore or any of the other scientists even mention China in their testimonies?

You recently wondered how anyone can make a political issue out of the Global Warming scare. In other words, you thought, like Lt. Horatio Caine, that Global Warming should concern us all.

This entire scare was manufactured by Progressive activists to give their party something in which to believe. They recognized that Democrats and the Left stand for nothing. In order to fill that vacuum, they've embraced Global Warming. It's a sham. A political stunt. A propaganda tool to rally the troops and gain recruits.

Posted by: Bart at March 21, 2007 05:59 PM (+qnDQ)

50 Why did over half of EPA employees sign a petition to get the administration working on the issue?

To paraphrase the question: "Why do thieves rob banks?"

"Because that's where the money is."

Apologies to Willie Sutton, but it's too good not to use.

Or put it this way: How much grant money would you award to somebody who tells you "The earth is in a minor period of warming, well within historic norms, and it is most likely caused by solar activity?"

Somehow, "you've got to give me money to solve this now or we're all going to die" just sounds more alarming.

Posted by: MarkD at March 21, 2007 06:01 PM (CZzWE)

51 Al Gore reminds me of John Edwards. If he weren't a former ex-president or what the hell ever, he would have been a used car salesman.

Somebody needs to give him a Chevy Caprice and a velour lesiure suit.

Posted by: Justin at March 21, 2007 06:01 PM (Q4HdS)

52 I forgot to add trees and plant life destroyed when making a movie.

Posted by: Bart at March 21, 2007 06:02 PM (+qnDQ)

53 Someone at HotAir asked if Boxer is always this rude. Why, yes. Yes she is. Remember the scotus hearings? Remember the way she attacked Condi Rice at her hearings? Someone else asked if it will every come back to haunt Boxer. Well, no, no it won't. She is a millionaire many many many times over.

Posted by: Red at March 21, 2007 06:02 PM (mPIUW)

54 And, don't don't forget:

"THE CRIB IS ON FIRE !!!"

*jeebus*

Posted by: franksalterego at March 21, 2007 06:02 PM (68cuZ)

55 Will you step forward and rather than float emotive arguments, try to make the world better?

How's this for an emotive argument:

"The planet has a fever. If your baby has a fever, you go to the doctor. If the doctor says you need to intervene here, you don’t say, well I read a science fiction novel that tells me it’s not a problem. If the crib’s on fire, you don’t speculate that the baby is flame-retardant. You take action. The planet has a fever."

That was Al Gore, dismissing Barton's counterarguments (linked by me above, partially reproduced by Ace in an update to the post) while utterly failing to address a single point that Barton made. Barton didn't cite a "science fiction novel," he cited Science magazine, the president of the National Academy of Sciences, and reports from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and the World Health Organization -- all of which made points that were inconsistent with Gore's sensationalistic scaremongering. Gore replied with handwaving and, yes, emotive arguments about cribs on fire, just like you're doing. In essence, he and you are both saying, "Just join with me in doing something" -- anything -- but neither of you think it's appropriate to question, before taking drastic actions, whether or not the problem is actually as dire as Gore claims or whether the actions he advocates will even make any material difference or will be worth the costs.

Posted by: Alex at March 21, 2007 06:02 PM (fgyj8)

56 I love global warming; it gives me a chubby and makes me feel good when I'm driving my Yugo!

Posted by: limp-wristed Lefty at March 21, 2007 06:03 PM (Oj0Xz)

57 How's this for an emotive argument: "The planet has a fever. If your baby has a fever, you go to the doctor.

The planet has a fever. If your baby has a fever, you dunk it in cold water. GW will melt the ice caps and supply the cold water and bring down the planet's fe-veh.

Posted by: Dr. Red at March 21, 2007 06:06 PM (mPIUW)

58 If he runs, he will win the Dem nod and get crushed in the general. I can't think of a better scenario.

I dated a guy briefly who said his ideal ticket would be Ted Kennedy with Hillary as the VP.

He was entirely serious.

Posted by: Justin at March 21, 2007 06:06 PM (Q4HdS)

59 Meatloaf is OK if it's offset with gravy and mashed potatoes!!

Yeah, but I still think Bat Out of Hell sucked.

Posted by: Alex at March 21, 2007 06:08 PM (fgyj8)

Tha crib!

Tha crib is on ... aww fuck it.

Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at March 21, 2007 06:10 PM (JefgB)

61 In essence, he and you are both saying, "Just join with me in doing something" -- anything -- but neither of you think it's appropriate to question, before taking drastic actions, whether or not the problem is actually as dire as Gore claims or whether the actions he advocates will even make any material difference or will be worth the costs.

Or even, as we've seen with the Prius issue, whether or not doing something might make whatever potential problems there are actually worse.

Posted by: The War Unicorn at March 21, 2007 06:10 PM (p27vn)

62 Yeah, but I still think Bat Out of Hell sucked.

But Rocky Horror was awesome, though.

Don't go all the way down! You don't know why the floor's sticky!

Posted by: The War Unicorn at March 21, 2007 06:13 PM (p27vn)

63 The Carter-Gore Lifestyle ™
You can:
- say anything you want
- collect money from any interests you want
- personally behave any way you want
- fill your pockets with money any way you want
- be lionized by all the pretty people

and you NEVER have to get confronted with any opposition, because YOU MAKE THE RULES to prevent that and your friends in the media and the Democratic Party make sure you NEVER get called on it, or if you do, it just disappears down the old memory hole! How many politico-celebrities like that do you know of that aren't Democrats.

ps. Don't bother with the Conservative commentators: they have to live under a microscope and they get reamed for absolutely anything in the media, deserved or not. I am talking about the truly teflon people here, folks!

pps. Looks like Garrison Keillor wants on the team!
ppps. Oh! Sorry, Al Franken! Shit, there sure are a lot of you guys!!

Posted by: sherlock at March 21, 2007 06:13 PM (ZrS0c)

64 Babs Boxer really is a cunt. Not that it matters to the brain-dead 28-percenters who'll keep right on electing her every time because no matter who she runs against, she'll just say he/she is a "right-wing extremist." Just like she always has. Fucking cunt.

Posted by: zetetic at March 21, 2007 06:13 PM (dqPso)

65 "The planet has a fever. If your baby has a fever, you go to the doctor."

And Al Gore is the doctor in this situation? Perfect.

"If the doctor says you need to intervene here..."

First of all, if the doctor is explaining the negative side effects of smoking while sucking back three fat Cubans (cigars, in this case, not cabana boys), you tend not to take him seriously. Second, if you find that the doctor has a financial interest in the drugs he's prescribing, you tend not to take him seriously.

"...you don’t say, well Iread a science fiction novel that tells me it’s not a problem."

But if you've read the reports that Barton cited, then maybe that's exactly what you say.

"If the crib’s on fire, you don’t speculate that the baby is flame-retardant. You take action."

Well, you demand that other people take action, at least. You don't have to take action if you're too rich and important.

Posted by: Sobek at March 21, 2007 06:16 PM (6GK9U)

66 Ix-nay on the Unt-Cay. Ace has his stinger out on that one.

Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at March 21, 2007 06:19 PM (JefgB)

67 Seattle admitted in a thread the other day that it isn't about doing it's about feeling.
Results don't matter, intentions do. Every fucking liberal position ever conceived is about intentions, not results. "Get the troops out" intention-less violence, result-more violence. "Minimum wage" intention-people make more money, result-lost jobs.
On and on it goes.

Posted by: Judd at March 21, 2007 06:19 PM (locqI)

68 What Cuffy said.

Sobek, good point.

Posted by: Sinistar at March 21, 2007 06:20 PM (bSYRF)

69 Well, why should Goracle take the pledge? How many times does he have to say it ... he's CARBON NEUTRAL.

Shesh, don't these word have any meaning to you morons?

Posted by: Carin at March 21, 2007 06:23 PM (z2SM2)

70 True that Judd.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Posted by: Sinistar at March 21, 2007 06:23 PM (bSYRF)

71 Seattle admitted in a thread the other day that it isn't about doing it's about feeling. Results don't matter, intentions do.

If it is all about useless symbolic gestures, then the hypocrites should gladly swear off their private jets, etc.

Posted by: Red at March 21, 2007 06:24 PM (mPIUW)

72 Fair enough, but if someone has a more accurate word for describing Babs, I'd sure like to hear it.

Posted by: zetetic at March 21, 2007 06:25 PM (dqPso)

73 How about aunt? It could be our own little AoS codeword.

Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at March 21, 2007 06:30 PM (JefgB)

74 Zetetic, nevermind. Ace just made a new post about deer-fucking, so you're cool.

Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at March 21, 2007 06:39 PM (JefgB)

75 It reached 40 degrees, today.

The average temperature for my city on March 21st is, wait for it,...

40 degrees.

The record low temp for March 21st in my city was 7 degrees, set in 1885.

The record high temp was 83 degrees, set in 1921

Conclusion: You've got be a real stupid asshole to believe that Global Warming is scientificaly proven.

Posted by: Bart at March 21, 2007 06:41 PM (+qnDQ)

76 I've really had enough of this fat, bloated fraud. Don't tell regular Americans to suck it up, Al, when your grotesquely large house burns more juice than Peru. We're sucking it up plenty in Not Rich Land, and we don't want to preached to by a guy who looks like he just ate a planet. Shit, if we want to save energy, let's get Big Al dancing and try to harness the jiggle power. Asshole.

Posted by: UGAdawg at March 21, 2007 06:43 PM (alGm/)

77 Hey Cuffy, I have an aunt, Ill sell you the offsets.

Posted by: Captkidney at March 21, 2007 06:44 PM (uQDzC)

78 "...you don’t say, well Iread a science fiction novel that tells me it’s not a problem."

Isn't this a subtle swipe at Michael Creighton?

Posted by: kelly at March 21, 2007 06:46 PM (5a01y)

79 THE ONLY HOPE. OUR ONLY SALVATION!!!!!

Posted by: true patriot at March 21, 2007 06:57 PM (svXIF)

80 True Patriot:

That's rally good writing for a 12 year old. Good job!

Posted by: Nice Deb at March 21, 2007 07:04 PM (CX6/b)

81 Shesh, don't these word have any meaning to you morons?

Oddly, no.

Posted by: Toby928 at March 21, 2007 07:09 PM (ATbKm)

82 Wickedpinto's fever.

Posted by: cranky at March 21, 2007 07:25 PM (Xj2Ev)

83 This guy is full of s**t.

Posted by: moses at March 21, 2007 07:29 PM (BJXeF)

84 judd,

I did what? When? About who?

Posted by: seattle slough at March 21, 2007 07:40 PM (H5l9d)

#75 Bart said, "Conclusion: You've got be a real stupid asshole to believe that Global Warming is scientificaly proven."

Well, the Gorebot Global Demagoguery is a crock of shit. The Czech President slams the environmental sham

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54784

Climate has been changing, well forever

http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFossils/ice_ages.html

But what could the sun possibly have to do with it? Shite! Mars melts

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

Can people really be this stupid? I cite socialism as proof positive.

Posted by: Mark at March 21, 2007 07:54 PM (isTfo)

86 Well...if the democrats are to be believed, the average household is a cardboard box under a bridge.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 21, 2007 08:01 PM (M+Nj2)

87 oh you just KNOW don lemon wanted to say "YOU GO GIRL, MMhMMM!" with the triple z snap.

Posted by: pawchikapawpaw at March 21, 2007 08:01 PM (69EaA)

88 muslim oil causes global warming George Bush said so

Posted by: John Ryan at March 21, 2007 05:48 PM (TcoRJ)

The Jawa troll slithers into AoS.

Posted by: forged rite at March 21, 2007 08:02 PM (3QKcU)

89 It all makes sense now!

The Gore "Iced tea" defense was used because Global Warming, and in this particular case, Global Deep Frying, had made it so hot outside that Gore needed an emergency IV of Lipton.

Posted by: benrand at March 21, 2007 08:03 PM (Ira3w)

90 Look at Al, all red-faced and nearly frothing at the mouth. Too cute... reminds me of my toddlers mid tantrum. How could I not want to just pinch his little red cheek, all cutesy wootsy like that?

Posted by: eso at March 21, 2007 08:15 PM (s0WrV)

91 What, it's been six and a half years now?

Criminy, some people just can't get over losing an election.

Posted by: guy of guys at March 21, 2007 08:42 PM (dxBZQ)

92 Gorewinkle is a robot from the future sent to our time to rewrite history and save the Human Race.

Or, he is a devious, deceitful, deranged, dimwit.

Posted by: eman at March 21, 2007 09:01 PM (FWrFx)

"Good For Her!"

There goes that right wing media shilling for the Repukes again.

Posted by: Warden at March 21, 2007 09:28 PM (2ZXBs)

94 it's not just the house. For decades, Gore's been exchanging favors with Occidental Petroleum, and growing rich off of that dirty, filthy oil company money, even while bad mouthing the oil bidness.

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=468

But if some "denier" scientist got some indirect funding from an oil company, once, decades ago, then his opinion is tainted.

Posted by: stace at March 21, 2007 09:46 PM (A56/D)

Wickedpinto's fever.

You know, after last night's train wreck, I wasn't going to mention WP tonight for fear of getting him started again, but ... I've been thinking for some time it's a shame he didn't join in the fun on the Garrison Keillor/gay marriage thread. Or the fucking the dead deer thread.

I'm betting he's got a few of his own stories, if you get my drift.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled thread.

Posted by: Paulitics at March 21, 2007 10:03 PM (47+Ys)

96 The planet has a feaver called AL GORUS HYPOTCRTUS BLABBERUS all cuased by ranting wealthy eco-freak hypotcrits like AL GORE,TED TURNER and DAVID SUZUKI

Posted by: spurwing plover at March 22, 2007 12:05 AM (bzZNq)

97 Now, just for a second or two, just imagine what life would have been like had Al Gore WON that election? Mandatory carbon credits deducted from your earnings like taxes. Manufacturing jobs lost overseas because of Global Warming Prevention regulations too tough and too expensive to meet. Saddam still in power in Iraq, funding international terrorism, killing anyone he doesn't like and selling oil right under the UN's Oil-for-Food clueless noses. Iran with an already-developed nuclear device thanks to the help of France and Russia, with someone being awarded a Nobel Peace Prize as a result. Hezbolla allowed to make war on Israel unchecked (oh wait, that happened without the help of the Goresicle.

Thankfully, "President Goresicle" never happened. BTW-can we finally get someone in the MSM to recognize that firing 8 Federal Prosecutors is NOT a story? I realize that's a tall order for a group of journalists who routinely IGNORE any fact, no matter how big, which doesn't agree with their "story". Goresicle goes to England, entire British Isles socked by freezing cold and snow. Goresicle comes back to the US, story repeats, only it's not NEWS worth printing, according to the MSM. I'm sick and feverish, and the cause is Global Warming all right! I'm sick of having to hear every single wild-ass environmentalist claim grandstanded around the MSM as fact, and ANY CHALLENGE to Goresicle either derided, diminished, or simply completely ignored, as was "the Great Global Warming Swindle".

If the CO2 is really linked to the temperatures of 500 years ago, then we're living with the CO2 spike from around the time Columbus sailed the ocean blue! Chew on that thought for a minute.

Posted by: Photobot at March 22, 2007 12:17 AM (rmPMB)

98 The thing the global warming zealots don't seem to comprehend is the damage having this idiot as their spokesman does to their cause. Whatever validity or logic their point had has been utterly lost in the ridiculous hype, the crass hypocrisy, and the outright lies. Al Gore is screaming wolf at the top of his voice with a bullhorn. What happens when everyone agrees he's full of crap?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 22, 2007 12:17 AM (wmgz8)

99 There's a reason environmentalists are called "Watermelons" -- they're green on the outside and red on the inside. By using a universal emotional appeal (Mother Earth, Gaia, and all that), they are intent in bringing about a fully collectivized world.

Posted by: Paulitics at March 22, 2007 01:08 AM (47+Ys)

100

WTF happened to the ace.mu.nu home page. It seems Ace just decided to give it all up and join the Peace Corps.

Posted by: Tushar D at March 22, 2007 08:51 AM (h76y6)

101 SS,
The point of off-sets is to allow those of us who are not Ed Bagley Jr. to still live on the grid, but to at least recognize that we are screwing up the environment and allow us to do something about it.

Posted by: Judd at March 22, 2007 12:34 PM (K92ee)

102 The point of offsets is to make some companies richer off the gullibility of some, and for those gullible ones to feel better about themselves while not making any real difference in their lifestyles.

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