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| CSI: Ace of SpadesHi all. I've added a leetle feature to the new comments thingy. Under each comment, you will see the usual line, like:Posted by: geoff at July 26, 2006 05:02 PM (THOZg)But that last bit, the (THOZg) bit, is new. It's a fingerprint based on the user's IP address, salted and encrypted. If two fingerprints are different, that doesn't prove anything, but if they are the same it's 99.9999999% likely that it's the same IP address. (Well, assuming that MD5 hashes are Comments1
Test test...
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 02:29 AM (PiXy!) 2
Okay, seems to work.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 02:29 AM (PiXy!) 3
Cool beans, man.
Now I'll find out who "Thomas Jefferson" and the rest of these sock-puppets pretending to be celebrities and historic personages finally are. Posted by: ace at July 27, 2006 02:35 AM (h7Mal) 4
Hey, where's the fingerprint?
Posted by: ace at July 27, 2006 02:36 AM (h7Mal) 5
You have to click on the "new comment thingy", you can't see them from the original comments section.
Posted by: BlameCandida at July 27, 2006 02:40 AM (huEVN) 6
Right there.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 02:41 AM (PiXy!) 7
What BlameCandida said.
Posted by: Some Other Non-Pixy Dude at July 27, 2006 02:41 AM (PiXy!) 8
This is a cool feature, ace.
Posted by: The Drizzle at July 27, 2006 02:43 AM (jstHd) 9
I agree with the Drizzle, cool feature.
Posted by: Definitely not the Drizzle at July 27, 2006 02:43 AM (jstHd) 10
I think a complete recap (or re-cap, if you prefer) of the various and sundry sock-puppet stories is now in order.
Only with 20% more invective. Slice it. Slice it like an effin hammer. Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at July 27, 2006 02:45 AM (Kz30m) 11
So I'm THOZg? Let's check this out.
Posted by: geoff at July 27, 2006 02:46 AM (THOZg) 12
Test
Posted by: topsecretk9 at July 27, 2006 02:50 AM (EtY4d) 13
The new comments thingy link is easier to comment on?
Posted by: topsecretk9 at July 27, 2006 02:51 AM (EtY4d) 14
Test
Posted by: Lew Clark at July 27, 2006 02:58 AM (VvGIS) 15
Test?
Posted by: at July 27, 2006 03:00 AM (OEbrS) 16
cool!
Posted by: Sock at July 27, 2006 03:00 AM (VvGIS) 17
Like waaaay cool
Posted by: Puppet at July 27, 2006 03:01 AM (VvGIS) 18
Well, I fucking hate this. Jesus Christ man - cant I have any fun?
I cant just be one person. I CANT. Posted by: Amish I.D. at July 27, 2006 03:04 AM (OEbrS) 19
"New Comments Thingy" is useless -- no article on that page.
Posted by: someone at July 27, 2006 03:08 AM (c2NB9) 20
This sucks.
Posted by: The Unabrewer at July 27, 2006 03:09 AM (CDwI3) 21
That dude is right, it does suck.
Posted by: Not The Unabrewer at July 27, 2006 03:10 AM (CDwI3) 22
I dont mind Ace knowing who I am. Heck I thought he could always tell who was who pretty easily.
I just dont want everyone to know who is who. I dont really want to know who Mike is. Or Thomas Jefferson. Or Ed Gein. Thats the fun part. This ruins that. Posted by: And Ace asked him, What is thy name? My name is Amish: for we are many at July 27, 2006 03:15 AM (OEbrS) 23
Amish, yeah, I know.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 03:18 AM (PiXy!) 24
I've always wanted to know.
There are a lot of people here cracking some really funny jokes, and no one ever knows who's doing it. Don't you morons want your props? What are you, stupid? You, sirs, are all goofs. Posted by: ace at July 27, 2006 03:18 AM (h7Mal) Posted by: Not Pixy at July 27, 2006 03:22 AM (PiXy!) 26
Test 2
Posted by: Amish tries to beat the system at July 27, 2006 03:24 AM (OEbrS) 27
I'm not sure what you mean by 'normally distributed' in the sense of hash functions. There's a fairly high degree of confidence that MD5 is non-invertible except by brute force, and that a one bit plaintext difference causes very close to 64 bits of difference in the hashtext (i.e good dispersion).
The real question is how well MD5 maps a 128 bit plaintext (an IPv4 address) to a 128 bit hashtext (MD5). If MD5 is a perfect hash function then there will be no collisions. But if not there will be at least 2 plaintexts from the 2^128 possible that map to the same hashtext (and by extension, there will exist a hashtext that is unreachable from the space of 128-bit plaintexts). You're also massively truncating the hash. I'd use SHA or TIGER-192 in an HMAC scheme, show the first eight hex digits and put the full hash in an <acronym> or <title> tag for rollover. Assuming a 'good' hash function, eight hex digits drops the collision probability to less than 1 in 4 billion. If you get a collision, the full 160- or 192-bit hash should disambiguate things. Posted by: David Gillies at July 27, 2006 03:25 AM (uyCNT) 28
I think, in this context, "normally distributed" means "I can't think of the right term".
The real question is how well MD5 maps a 128 bit plaintext (an IPv4 address) to a 128 bit hashtext (MD5). Yeah. Though IPv4 is only 32 bits... except that I'm using a string representation, which is between 56 and 120 bits, but very sparse. You're also massively truncating the hash. I am. Good enough for the purpose though. (I'm showing five base-64 digits, so 30 bits.) It doesn't have to be perfect. Ace has access to the real IPs, and so do I, if investigation is necessary. Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 03:31 AM (PiXy!) Posted by: sandy burger at July 27, 2006 03:33 AM (zHO88) 30
BTW, Pixy, here's an HMAC generator in PHP I use in production code:
function compute_hmac($text,$key) { returnstrtoupper(bin2hex(mhash(MHASH_SHA1,$text,$key))); } It needs PHP built with the --with-mhash configure switch. Posted by: David Gillies at July 27, 2006 03:38 AM (uyCNT) 31
Switching from one dial-up IP . . .
Posted by: m at July 27, 2006 03:43 AM (jiRmd) 32
. . . to another.
Posted by: m at July 27, 2006 03:44 AM (R2Ec9) 33
O.k. No (apparent) indication of same server, same geographical area. Just curious; just checking.
Posted by: m at July 27, 2006 03:45 AM (R2Ec9) 34
Yeah, sorry, I meant IPv6 is 128 bits. I'd still use SHA-1 though. When I say brute force, I don't mean literally searching the entire space. There are more efficient attacks than that although at present they're not really computationally feasible. The HMAC breaks the mesage extension attacks if you're paranoid (and paranoia is a good thing).
Posted by: David Gillies at July 27, 2006 03:46 AM (uyCNT) 35
BTW, Pixy, here's an equation I use in reproduction Code:
68 + 1 = Me and your Mother Im sorry. That was uncalled for. Im just a little freaked out right now. I cant make it on just one name, man. How am I going to bait ace into arguing with mysterious "trolls" that pop up every time I get bored? How am I gonna write homoerotic love sonnets to Bart and sign them Sandy B.? Do you care Pixy? I dont think so. Obviously you dont see the importance of a good internet handle - you chose the queerest most effeminate name imaginable. But it matters to me Pixy. Me and a lot of other decent, hard working, comment posting, fake trollin', immitation sockpuppetering Americans. God how I loathe you. Posted by: Hi! Im Amish - but you can call me (OEbrS) at July 27, 2006 03:54 AM (OEbrS) 36
Now we just need a nice little chart at the bottom:
FRalS = Pixy, Some other non-pixy dude xxHDT = Some ass, his sock puppet, and his other sock pupet. h7Mal = Ace . . . -> instant chart of sock-pupetry. Or is that sock-pupeteering. Whatever. Posted by: Al at July 27, 2006 03:55 AM (4Thhc) 37
Dear Pixy,
That hash thing is a great idea. If possible, I'd like a Vanity Hash, please. Something like 'RoX0r' would be nice. If that's taken, then maybe aC3oS, nOlyF, 1GnOr, or vLuRt Thanks in advance, Posted by: BumperStickerist at July 27, 2006 04:02 AM (PcDvW) 38
To make this work, wouldn't the 'salt' have to be identical? It doesn't look like you're doing that. Unless you are hiding the salt characters that is.
Posted by: Kevin at July 27, 2006 04:21 AM (++0ve) 39
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Pixy,
Do you intend to make the 'New Comments Thingy' the default mode? I use Firefox with the RSS bookmarks and 'New Comments' does not appear unless I go to 'Main'. Posted by: Dave in W-S at July 27, 2006 04:30 AM (O2SW8) Posted by: kosisok at July 27, 2006 04:50 AM (IqvU+) Posted by: Steve L. at July 27, 2006 04:55 AM (pKt3d) Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 05:23 AM (9ULFg) Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 05:24 AM (9ULFg) 46
Dave in W-S - We (mu.nu, that is) are going to be moving to a whole new blogging system, but it's not completely ready yet. But since the new comments are working, and the old comments keep breaking, I thought I'd try out that part of the new system here.
Once we finish moving, all those little oddities will go away. To be replaced by a whole new set of little oddities, I expect. Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 05:29 AM (PiXy!) 47
I feel like I'm at the DMV, about to pickup my new license plates.
Posted by: Pupster at July 27, 2006 05:50 AM (9h6vV) 48
Now what are you gonna do?
Posted by: 9h6vV at July 27, 2006 05:53 AM (9h6vV) 49
Heh.
Amish, I know it's a bit of a pain; I enjoyed the jokes too. I've set it up as an option, just another template tag that mu.nu bloggers can use if they want. So if this whole sockpuppet thing blows over, then we can just turn it off and go back to normal. Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 05:57 AM (PiXy!) 50
Fingerprints-thingy adds a whole new *layer* to the 300+ comments on the "No, I'm Not Getting Dragged into This Leopold Madness Further" thread. Now a must-reread.
Posted by: m at July 27, 2006 06:06 AM (F8Wax) 51
So those of use who are lying our butts off will now be caught? What kind of big brother outfit is this anyway? Worst of all we don't even get to choose our monikers, but get stuck with a five symbol designation. Just for that Ace, I'm rejecting your lame porn collection and don't bother sending those 3 adult sized inflatable dolls either. As for those nice things I've said about you over the years, I take them all back. The pissy things I've said now go double. Remember the time you had that awful accident while crossing your legsand almost crushed a testicle? No sympathy now buddy. What about the time you flicked your lighter and had an inopportune fire? Burn, baby, burn. As for my the suggestion that you should relax by smoking a $10 cigar and having a brandy? I take it back. Smoke a cigar butt you find in the street and have a shot of ripple wine. A pox on your house, but not in a gay way. Like a viking.
Posted by: pendel;ton at July 27, 2006 06:16 AM (PX3WS) 52
This new identification thingy wouldn't have happened if Kerry had been elected.
Posted by: Carin at July 27, 2006 06:21 AM (lDoit) Posted by: Cybrludite at July 27, 2006 06:23 AM (XFoEH) 54
HEY, I totally resent my new "handle" - it kinda looks like idiot.
Which, is fitting, so nevermind. Posted by: Carin at July 27, 2006 06:23 AM (lDoit) 55
I think this is ridiculous.
Posted by: Veeshir at July 27, 2006 06:27 AM (zXUuJ) 56
Yeah, what Veeshir said makes very much sense. He is very intelligent.
Posted by: Fred at July 27, 2006 06:27 AM (zXUuJ) 57
test test
Posted by: wobert at July 27, 2006 06:32 AM (mI/nl) 58
I do not see it at home and I'm using a 1.0.7 version of Firefox.
Posted by: Bill from INDC at July 27, 2006 07:01 AM (hDDCf) Posted by: Bill from INDC at July 27, 2006 07:04 AM (PcDvW) 60
New Comments Thingy, Bill. Or should I say, "hDDCf".
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 07:05 AM (PiXy!) 61
Yep. Nice test.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 07:09 AM (PiXy!) 62
Samson - BzVwq
FuManChu - BzVwq Delilah - BzVwq AceIsNotThePlace - BzVwq DHinMI - BzVwq Leftword - BzVwq Delilah/Big E - BzVwq willybobo - BzVwq tasteslikemarshmellow - BzVwq tastelikechicken - BzVwq Ace is a Cunt - BzVwq Leftword - XNgK8 DHinMI - XNgK8 How about this crazyness, huh? Posted by: Shawn, but not lowercased shawn at July 27, 2006 07:19 AM (wKh5O) 63
No, no...this is brilliant!
I've been so seriously annoyed with unsigned trolls in the past. I once suggested leaving the name blank should automagically print IP instead. I understand the privacy issues, though. But this gets around that handily. Excellent! Posted by: S. Weasel at July 27, 2006 07:24 AM (rasT+) 64
So if I'm at a Starbucks in Irvine and send a comment, then before it even registers RUN to a Starbucks in Santa Ana and send another comment do I get the same thingy?
Just asking. Posted by: Gotta Know at July 27, 2006 07:24 AM (Qoe61) 65
This is the way we post from work, post from work, post from work. This is the way we post from work, all day long.
Posted by: Sue Dohnim at July 27, 2006 07:24 AM (rE+jU) 66
LOL! My code is rE+jU! Ret Jew! Or maybe Reet Jew?
Posted by: Sue Dohnim at July 27, 2006 07:26 AM (rE+jU) 67
I like it: because it gives some power to the commenters to ferret out bullshit and lies.
I don't like it: because it means ace will never again get a great story like the Glenn Greenwald faceraping. (Yeah, I'm one of the many who thoroughly enjoyed the Glenn Greenwald episode. People who complained were idiots.) This is defeatable by using a number of anonymizers, or by a concerted effort of left-wing nutbags running home servers on their DSL line, through which could be directed the HTTP POST information. But for your average non-technical idiot pseudo-journalist... well, it's a right kick in the beanbag. Posted by: rho at July 27, 2006 07:28 AM (aLDBr) 68
Woohoo! I'm rasT+! I like it. It's all...rakish and shit. Move over for rasT+, boys!
I wonder what my home address is... Posted by: S. Weasel at July 27, 2006 07:31 AM (rasT+) 69
Damn, they were ALL just ONE person? Hillarious.
Posted by: Entropy at July 27, 2006 07:33 AM (m6c4H) 70
On the one hand - trolls can't hide. Good.
On the other hand - there is now zero chance that anyone will think any of the funny sock puppets are me and give me credit that I don't deserve but readily accept. Bad Posted by: JackStraw at July 27, 2006 07:34 AM (rnOZq) 71
Well, if we just quietly go about our business, new trolls may not notice the tag. This couldmean hours of fun for the whole family!
Sue: love it. Bad enough to be a ju, but a reju? There's a really excellent joke in there somewhere... Posted by: S. Weasel at July 27, 2006 07:35 AM (rasT+) 72
I wonder what it would say if I just ipconfig /release ipconfig /renew...but that would be a pain in the ass to do on the router.
Don't you peopleSEE what is happening HERE? Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: People are not numbers! Posted by: m6c4H at July 27, 2006 07:39 AM (m6c4H) Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 07:39 AM (R8+nJ) 74
What is my mark of the beast?
Posted by: Matt at July 27, 2006 07:41 AM (ztNrs) Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at July 27, 2006 07:41 AM (pzen5) Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 07:42 AM (PiXy!) 77
Kidding, of course.
You know, I'm not sure this will have a lot of effect on the freewheeling discussions. After all, I'm not really looking at the digital signature, just the name. Posted by: Ronald Reagan at July 27, 2006 07:43 AM (R8+nJ) 78
YYYEAAARRRGGGHHH!!!!
Posted by: Howard Dean at July 27, 2006 07:44 AM (R8+nJ) 79
Way cool dude! Will test from my other pad later just to see if I change colours...
Posted by: RobC at July 27, 2006 07:57 AM (a1lEZ) Posted by: someone at July 27, 2006 07:57 AM (c2NB9) 81
Quick technical question:
If I fax my comment into the thread would it still have the same code or would the header from the fax transmission give me a different code? thx Posted by: BumperStickerist at July 27, 2006 08:02 AM (PcDvW) 82
Test 123
Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 08:03 AM (h76y6) 83
Woah!
Posted by: Joey Lawrence at July 27, 2006 08:03 AM (m6c4H) 84
Test 456
Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 08:03 AM (h76y6) 85
74... yep were are numbers... gazillions of numbers in fact... I can't even remember all the numbers! Now where did I put my keys??? :-)
Posted by: RobC at July 27, 2006 08:03 AM (KsjKj) 86
I rarely post, and never sockpuppet anyway.
I think the good outweighs the bad. The joke, folks, isn't in your anonymity, it's in the wit of what you say. Can't wait to see what my new fingerprint is. Come on, Dri22+! Posted by: benjamin at July 27, 2006 08:04 AM (dTJxx) 87
Hey! I changed colours Ace! Those postings of mine were from the same machine by the way.
Posted by: RobC at July 27, 2006 08:05 AM (o0N0R) 88
Pixy,
I tried from 2 different PCs at work (comments 84 and 86), and got the same handle. This is ofcourse expected, because of subnetting. Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 08:05 AM (h76y6) 89
checkity.
Posted by: lauraw at July 27, 2006 08:06 AM (Fox3G) 90
Thats a cool handle, LauraW.
Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 08:07 AM (h76y6) 91
check check
Posted by: lauraw at July 27, 2006 08:07 AM (Fox3G) Posted by: fletch at July 27, 2006 08:08 AM (3tiJY) 93
I'll have to play with this when I get home.
Posted by: Entropy at July 27, 2006 08:09 AM (m6c4H) 94
All your sock puppets are belong to us.
Posted by: Scott R at July 27, 2006 08:14 AM (edyK8) 95
"I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"
Posted by: Dale at July 27, 2006 08:15 AM (Z887G) Posted by: Dave in Texas at July 27, 2006 08:17 AM (pzen5) 97
Just wanted to find out what my code is!
Posted by: Stephen at July 27, 2006 08:21 AM (yLIoP) 98
By "subnetting" I assume you meant "NAT". When a bunch of computers sits behind a single IP address, that's NAT or proxying. When you divide a network into discreet sub-nets, that's subnetting.
Posted by: rho at July 27, 2006 08:23 AM (aLDBr) 99
Sorry about the little outage there. Just putting an essential upgrade in place.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 08:26 AM (PiXy!) 100
Some people will do anything to get in the news including running around naked while snuffing white powder up their nose and sining MUSKRAT LOVE over and over until you want to choke them
Posted by: spurwing plover at July 27, 2006 08:27 AM (0Wk0b) 101
Hmmm, is this like sending me to the supersecret clubhouse that turned out to be the bus station, cuz, I'm just not seeing it? Firefox 1.5.0.4 nope, IE 6.0 nope.
Tob Posted by: Toby928 at July 27, 2006 08:29 AM (ATbKm) 102
Homosaywhatnow?
When you divide a bunch of computers behind a single IP address those computers are called a subnet. Posted by: Entropy at July 27, 2006 08:30 AM (m6c4H) Posted by: Entropy at July 27, 2006 08:34 AM (m6c4H) 104
Hrm, it still wants my email address. OTOH the "no post in thingy" is fixed.
When's the Ace post-page template going to be slapped on? Posted by: someone at July 27, 2006 08:35 AM (c2NB9) 105
Good thing I'm not a sock puppet...
Posted by: Sue at July 27, 2006 08:35 AM (h8Vr0) 106
Has anyone noticed Spurwing writes kind of like Thomas Sowel might after he huffed a spraycan of Pledge?
Posted by: Entropy at July 27, 2006 08:36 AM (m6c4H) 107
Testin'
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at July 27, 2006 08:37 AM (w4Bx4) 108
Shoot. I wanted a cool fingerprint. h8Vro doesn't have a ring to it.
Posted by: Sue at July 27, 2006 08:38 AM (h8Vr0) 109
Pixy -
Now I'm at work, using explorer 6.0. I, er, still don't see any unique characters ... Last comment sig: "Posted by Entropy at July 27, 2006 08:34 AM" What am I doing wrong? Posted by: Bill from INDC at July 27, 2006 08:39 AM (yZMsp) 110
Testy McTest. Stylesheet Testy McTest
Posted by: jhc at July 27, 2006 08:39 AM (+lA9g) 111
Could it be some Firewall issue? Software? Settings?
Posted by: Bill from INDC at July 27, 2006 08:40 AM (yZMsp) 112
Test(from school wifi)
Posted by: Greg at July 27, 2006 08:41 AM (Xt2qH) 113
This is my hash. There are many like it but this one is mine.
Posted by: Justin Testin at July 27, 2006 08:41 AM (j02xJ) 114
Bill - you're using the old comments. Click on New Comments Thingy.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 08:42 AM (PiXy!) 115
Yes! Stylesheets work! I'm a happy man!
Posted by: jhc at July 27, 2006 08:42 AM (+lA9g) 116
Yikes, new thingy, got it. Hmmm, Don't like it. I don't mind that Ace knows who I am when I'm BSing but it defeats the purpose for you chowderheads to know. If I'm posting something that I think has substanciness, I always use the Googleable handle toby928. Bogus handles are for bad jokes and such, things that I don't want the great cache in the sky to keep tying to meforever. Plus, anything that I'm not sure about, like say, that pastrami's made from beef not pork, duh! Now I'll have to setup a proxy to get around this feature. I could do without the extra work.
Tob Posted by: toby928 at July 27, 2006 08:44 AM (ATbKm) 117
Hmm.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 08:44 AM (PiXy!) 118
Hey, Ace!
Post a couple of more comments. With this new thing I've almost figured out where you live. Posted by: harrison at July 27, 2006 08:45 AM (tqmmz) 119
I question the need for Spurwing to have a code. There is NOTHING like a Spurwing post.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 27, 2006 08:46 AM (rnOZq) 120
So, I'm being outed again??
Posted by: Lance Bass at July 27, 2006 08:48 AM (AQGeh) 121
Pixy,
you got yourself a cool handle. So it is doable. Here is the idea: Anybody who can pony up $10 gets to choose a custom handle. Pay more and attach two IPs to it (work and home). If you want a Raunchy handle, pay up a bit more! Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 08:48 AM (tyRhL) 122
I'm surprised ace hasn't dipped his balls in this yet. 'cause it's as cool as pudding.
Posted by: phin at July 27, 2006 08:49 AM (X42kM) 123
Bad enough we have to leave ourt e-mails, huh Lance? (hey, call me. It's been a while.)
Posted by: Clay Aiken at July 27, 2006 08:49 AM (AQGeh) 124
<i>I question the need for Spurwing to have a code. There is NOTHING like a Spurwing post.</i>
Exactly, I trying hard not to go look at Spurwing to find out if he's just a beard for one of you other guys. Its better left as a mystery. Tob Posted by: toby928 at July 27, 2006 08:49 AM (ATbKm) 125
What no imbeded html? I will have to totally retrain my fingers.
Tob Posted by: toby928 at July 27, 2006 08:51 AM (ATbKm) 126
>>I wanted a cool fingerprint. h8Vro doesn't have a ring to it.
Unless you pronounce it as Hot Ho! Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 08:51 AM (h76y6) Posted by: SarahW at July 27, 2006 08:52 AM (GsERi) 128
Brilliant!
Homegrown security of a sort... Done without government funding or anything! (Will you establish the standards and sell it to other blogs? NewsBusters NEEDS this!) Posted by: heldmyw at July 27, 2006 08:52 AM (LvGT1) 129
Test...
Posted by: Geoff in Japan at July 27, 2006 08:53 AM (kRqN9) 130
Uh oh. I have the feeling of the newly escaped convict who, tired and exhausted, suddenly hears the bay of bloodhounds in the near distance.
Posted by: Ray Midge at July 27, 2006 08:55 AM (rH3Ei) 131
Awesome. Now I can drop that unwieldly "in Japan" in favor of the uber-sleek and sexy "kRqN9"...
Posted by: Geoff at July 27, 2006 08:55 AM (kRqN9) 132
who am i? who am i? 24601?
Posted by: jdubious at July 27, 2006 08:56 AM (G7s9a) 133
Interesting, posts made from the new thingy are not visible in my firefox sesson to the older commenter. But not vice versa.
Tob Posted by: Toby928 at July 27, 2006 08:56 AM (ATbKm) 134
nope, G7s9a, apparently, which doesn't sound remotely like jean valjean would sing dramatically, ever.
oh well. Posted by: jdubious at July 27, 2006 08:57 AM (G7s9a) 135
Did my last post post? I can't seem to post from the "newcommentsthingy"
Posted by: Paul in Iowa at July 27, 2006 08:57 AM (qzOby) 136
test 1
Posted by: toby928 at July 27, 2006 08:58 AM (ATbKm) 137
#131 heldmyw - There's a version for WordPress available here. I borrowed the idea and rewrote it for munu.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 08:58 AM (PiXy!) 138
Wait. Lance and Clay are the same gay person? Sure didn't feel that way.
And what's up with the AQGeh tag? Al Qaeda - Gay? NOT COOL! Posted by: Elton John at July 27, 2006 08:59 AM (AQGeh) 139
Old comments: Thomas Jefferson
New Comment Thingy: pzen5 Posted by: Wardrobe Door at July 27, 2006 09:00 AM (hCUhy) 140
Is this all about tracking trolls or discouraging trolls? If the latter, I think that there are better ways to do it.
How about registration (2 day waiting period) but allow infinitely variable handles at post time. Kind of like ABP used to do. Tob Posted by: toby928 at July 27, 2006 09:00 AM (ATbKm) 141
Can I get rid of hCUhy? Will someone trade?
Posted by: Wardrobe Door at July 27, 2006 09:02 AM (hCUhy) 142
Lance/Clay/Elton John
Now you will forever be known as the Gay Jihadi! Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 09:02 AM (h76y6) Posted by: toby928 at July 27, 2006 09:03 AM (ATbKm) 144
Anyone except Elton John, aka Al Qaeda - Gay.
Posted by: Wardrobe Door at July 27, 2006 09:03 AM (hCUhy) 145
If I accept this digital signature thingy, will Sue make me a sammich again?
I sure miss those. That's right, beg for it. In the meantime, enjoy your truck meat. Posted by: Sue Dohnim at July 27, 2006 09:04 AM (rE+jU) 146
Okay, someone needs to find a JeffG post. I have got to know whether that was him playing with us last night.
Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 09:04 AM (R8+nJ) 147
I for one, wish there were more real trolls here. I'd love to watch the ass-reaming they'd take on this site.
You could do something about BUY CIALIS FREE TRANNY BLOWJOB though, I never liked that guy. Posted by: Entropy at July 27, 2006 09:04 AM (m6c4H) 148
This is pretty cool.
Posted by: Some Guy at July 27, 2006 09:07 AM (lPxkl) 149
Pixy,
you got yourself a cool handle. So it is doable. I'd guess he got that cuz he used his tag/IP as the encryption pattern. So unless he is teh uber math whiz, he can probably only do that for 1 name barring coincidence. Posted by: at July 27, 2006 09:07 AM (m6c4H) 150
Anyone except Elton John, aka Al Qaeda - Gay.
Well, I guarantee this is going to discourage me from ever posting under my "real" nym Posted by: Osama bin Polesmoker at July 27, 2006 09:07 AM (AQGeh) 151
Great, I get hash uyCNT. Wonder what my other IP will hash to.
Posted by: David Gillies at July 27, 2006 09:07 AM (uyCNT) 152
Hmmm, I wonder how well this things works.
Posted by: Xoxotl at July 27, 2006 09:08 AM (qUG21) Posted by: Xoxotl's "Magic Boyfriend" at July 27, 2006 09:09 AM (qUG21) Posted by: harrison at July 27, 2006 09:09 AM (tqmmz) Posted by: R8+nJ at July 27, 2006 09:10 AM (R8+nJ) 156
Suggestions for teh uber code whiz:
New Commenting Thingy makes like 5 line returns per actual line return on the old comment thingy. Having HTML tags expire at the line return is a GOOD thing, but it makes it tedious to tag multiple lines as italic or such. People allways screw up trying to quote multiple lines. I don't know if there's anything you can do about that. Posted by: Entropy at July 27, 2006 09:10 AM (m6c4H) 157
Of course, I'm going to have to refer to each of you by hash:
Hey PiXy!, did you leave space for a PPV translate table so that hCUhy can pay for a kool hash? ATbKm Its like we're borg or something. Posted by: toby928 at July 27, 2006 09:11 AM (ATbKm) Posted by: Steve #2 at July 27, 2006 09:12 AM (NEhff) 159
David Gilles - You Cunt!
Ha Ha Ha!!! Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 09:12 AM (h76y6) 160
I'd guess he got that cuz he used his tag/IP as the encryption pattern. Nothing so fancy. I'm just testing commenter registration in the new blogging system. Since I'm registered, I can put in a custom fingerprint for myself. Whether I make that a general feature is another question. Though Tushar D's suggestion is attractive. Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 09:12 AM (PiXy!) 161
Still looking for my secret decoder ring.
Posted by: PattyAnn at July 27, 2006 09:12 AM (qCDkl) Posted by: capt joe at July 27, 2006 09:13 AM (9DU5u) 163
and now from the south
Posted by: capt joe at July 27, 2006 09:14 AM (s4N91) 164
There's still the joke-spoiling aspect of it, but it can always be turned off except in time of extreme puppetation.
"Extreme puppetation"? Sounds like a Roman Catholic rite. Or like something dirty. Or both. Posted by: jhc at July 27, 2006 09:15 AM (+lA9g) 165
You are welcome, Pixy. I get mine free, right?
seriously, I will pay for a cool handle. I am sure AQ Gay will too! Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 09:16 AM (h76y6) 166
I like--mine's close to quixotical.
Posted by: PattyAnn at July 27, 2006 09:16 AM (qCDkl) Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 09:16 AM (R8+nJ) 168
Damn.
Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 09:17 AM (R8+nJ) 169
Gah! My blockquote stylesheet rules disappeared! Arrrghhh!
Posted by: jhc at July 27, 2006 09:17 AM (+lA9g) 170
NEhff?
I wonder if this one is different? Posted by: NEhff at July 27, 2006 09:17 AM (Y0cuN) 171
I am THOZg, king of kings!!
Look on my hash, ye wimpy, and despair! Posted by: geoff at July 27, 2006 09:17 AM (THOZg) 172
what the NEhff???
Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 09:18 AM (h76y6) 173
You have to use the source editor, Slublog. Last button on the toolbar. But it seems that they're stripping out stylesheet rules or blockquote tags or something.
Posted by: jhc at July 27, 2006 09:18 AM (+lA9g) 174
I am...R8+nJ
Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 09:18 AM (R8+nJ) 175
New Commenting Thingy makes like 5 line returns per actual line return on the old comment thingy.
Yeah, I'm working on that. The editor is really pretty, but it's also kind of nuts. Having HTML tags expire at the line return is a GOOD thing, but it makes it tedious to tag multiple lines as italic or such. People allways screw up trying to quote multiple lines. I don't know if there's anything you can do about that. In the new editor, just select multiple lines of text and click the italics button. In the old comments, there are differences between the preview and how Movable Type actually handles the comments, which cause problems. In the new system, there shouldn't be. Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 09:19 AM (PiXy!) 176
All you mutharfukers are gonna pay....taxes until you die.
Posted by: jones at July 27, 2006 09:20 AM (lJUwT) 177
Let's try it again, with <p> tags this time.There's still the joke-spoiling aspect of it, but it can always be turned off except in time of extreme puppetation. "Extreme puppetation"? Sounds like a Roman Catholic rite. Or like something dirty. Or both. Posted by: jhc at July 27, 2006 09:20 AM (+lA9g) 178
Yes! Who's yer daddy? It's me! I'm yer daddy! Booyah.
Posted by: jhc at July 27, 2006 09:21 AM (+lA9g) Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 09:21 AM (R8+nJ) 180
Cool im (IJUwT) (I-Joo-What)?
Posted by: jones at July 27, 2006 09:22 AM (lJUwT) 181
Actually, I don't mind the tag too much. Of course, you may never ever hear from "he who shall not be named" again
Posted by: Lance bin Cockin' at July 27, 2006 09:22 AM (AQGeh) 182
"Extreme puppetation"? Sounds like a Roman Catholic rite. Or like something dirty. Or both.
Some or all of that is redundant. I think. Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 09:22 AM (PiXy!) 183
The question is, can we use the most annoying HTML feature ever? Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 09:23 AM (R8+nJ) 184
Interesting. I wrote a webchat script about 12 years ago that employed the same concept so no one could claim to be an admin or spoof another chatter.
12 years ago. Criminey. Yeah lemme see what my fingerprint looks like . Posted by: w3 at July 27, 2006 09:23 AM (DRifx) 185
Ok, here's hoping I get a good hash...
Posted by: Sockpuppet #32592 at July 27, 2006 09:23 AM (sbZbc) 186
Yeah that's right, Dr. IFX in the house.
Posted by: w3 at July 27, 2006 09:24 AM (DRifx) 187
Slublog, you're not going to...oh, please don't...FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SLUBLOG, LEAVE THE BLINK TAG ALONE!
Posted by: jhc at July 27, 2006 09:25 AM (+lA9g) Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 09:25 AM (R8+nJ) 189
Damn...someone figured out my nefarious plan...
Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 09:26 AM (R8+nJ) 190
oh well
Posted by: Sockpuppet #32592 at July 27, 2006 09:28 AM (sbZbc) 191
Damn...someone figured out my nefarious plan...
I tried to block as much nefariousness as possible in advance. Obviously my de-nefariousizer isn't perfect, but better than nothing. Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 09:28 AM (PiXy!) 192
Two computers same network (I think) in my Detroit office. Tomorrow I try this from Chicago. I could have 5 handles before this is over. NEfhh, YOcuN and more. Thomas Jefferson may live yet?
Posted by: Steve #2 at July 27, 2006 09:29 AM (NEhff) 193
I hope I get the cool ID mark that I deserve.
Posted by: Retired Geezer at July 27, 2006 09:30 AM (A6u5v) 194
hey fellas
Posted by: jdubious at July 27, 2006 09:30 AM (G7s9a) 195
well. that didn't work
Posted by: jdubious at July 27, 2006 09:31 AM (G7s9a) 196
(A6u5v) Hmmmm... Aceufvvv?
Posted by: Retired Geezer at July 27, 2006 09:32 AM (A6u5v) Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 09:35 AM (PiXy!) 198
Let's see how many tags Pixy managed to remove...TAKE THAT, PIXY!
Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 09:36 AM (R8+nJ) Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 09:36 AM (R8+nJ) 200
To quote Def Thomas Jeff,
"I only leave an electronic cock print, electronic fingerprints are for pussies and trolls." - GB Posted by: Great Banana at July 27, 2006 09:38 AM (JFj6P) 201
One helpful addition might be to de-nefariousize things after clicking 'OK' in the source editor. So we can see what will work before hitting 'Post'. Otherwise, my carefully crafted imitation of Geocities 1996 will fall flat on its face. Posted by: jhc at July 27, 2006 09:38 AM (+lA9g) 202
Делает Ñта работа?
Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 09:39 AM (R8+nJ) 203
ДРДРЗЛЕЙШИЕ ПРÐВИЛÐ!
Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 09:39 AM (R8+nJ) 204
Holy crap, jhc. That's an evil page.
Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 09:41 AM (R8+nJ) 205
Give it up, slub!
Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 09:42 AM (tyRhL) 206
Fox3G eh?
Not too shabby. Posted by: lauraw at July 27, 2006 09:42 AM (Fox3G) 207
Seriously, though, Pixy. This new comment script is great.
Even if you have stripped all of the fun stuff. :-) Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 09:42 AM (R8+nJ) Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 09:43 AM (R8+nJ) 209
One helpful addition might be to de-nefariousize things after clicking
'OK' in the source editor. So we can see what will work before hitting 'Post'. Not that easy, unfortunately. Also, the system is intended not to let you make a horrible mess of Ace's blog, rather than to help you find ways to do so. Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 09:44 AM (PiXy!) 210
rnOZq...what the hell is rnOZq? There is no way to make it sound cool. rnOZq. It sounds like the mystery ingredient in a hemroid cream.
rnOZq. Apply directly to your hemroid. Bah. I feel like I've been violated. Posted by: rnOZq at July 27, 2006 09:44 AM (rnOZq) 211
long test
Posted by: Kevin at July 27, 2006 09:46 AM (++0ve) 212
Fox3G...this has to be some sort of conspiracy...
Posted by: Brett Bullington at July 27, 2006 09:49 AM (/QYGF) 213
Also, the system is intended not to let you make a horrible mess of Ace's blog, rather than to help you find ways to do so.
Perhaps a list of which tags are permitted / disallowed, then? Posted by: jhc at July 27, 2006 09:49 AM (+lA9g) 214
WTF is c3po?
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson C3PO at July 27, 2006 09:49 AM (pzen5) Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 09:49 AM (h76y6) 216
comment
Posted by: right at July 27, 2006 09:50 AM (EzLNA) 217
Ha! only accepts picures from mu.nu. Very good!
Just for the record, thepicture I was trying to attach was this. Devil himself. Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 09:51 AM (h76y6) 218
Hey, it's a tabletop tiger!
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 09:53 AM (PiXy!) Posted by: William Howard Taft at July 27, 2006 09:53 AM (pzen5) 220
In fact, the comments (currently) don't allow pictures at all, but do have some smilie handling. So:
: ) -> : ( -> : D -> : P -> ; ) -> I have lots more smilies, but I need to set up the translation table. Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 09:55 AM (PiXy!) 221
The biggest trick Devil pulled was to convince everybody that his self-licking furball swallowing monstrous selfis cute.
Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 09:56 AM (h76y6) 222
: P
Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 09:57 AM (h76y6) 223
Uh, without the space.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 09:58 AM (PiXy!) 224
huh?
Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 09:58 AM (h76y6) 225
Was it over when the Nazi's had an aircraft carrier?
No! (seriously, I didn't even know they had one) Posted by: Bluto at July 27, 2006 09:58 AM (pzen5) 226
proxy test
Posted by: Kevin at July 27, 2006 10:00 AM (6ullh) Posted by: Kevin at July 27, 2006 10:01 AM (++0ve) 228
: D
Posted by: lauraw at July 27, 2006 10:02 AM (Fox3G) 229
Oh well, that didn't work.
But I am so turned on right now by the whole Fox3G thing I can scarcely stand myself. I'm going to go order a vanity plate for the truck and then go look at myself in the mirror for a while. Posted by: lauraw at July 27, 2006 10:04 AM (Fox3G) 230
i still prefer the old comments pop-up window and counter. do you get the code if you post on the old comments?
Posted by: M at July 27, 2006 10:05 AM (gIIfU) 231
test 2, still gllfU?
Posted by: M at July 27, 2006 10:05 AM (gIIfU) 232
lauraw, for some reason, you remind me of Lucy van Pelt.
Posted by: jhc at July 27, 2006 10:06 AM (+lA9g) 233
now posting at the old comments. still there?
Posted by: M at July 27, 2006 10:07 AM (gIIfU) 234
Pixy,
that Fox3G handle LauraW got, was it random, or did you put in a custom one? Sounds too cool to be random. h76y6 on the other hand.... Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 10:17 AM (h76y6) 235
6y6 looks like an annoyedowl.
Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 10:19 AM (h76y6) 236
Just curious....
Posted by: AFKAF at July 27, 2006 10:24 AM (83CmN) 237
Posted by: lauraw at July 27, 2006 10:27 AM (Fox3G) 238
just curious
Posted by: Brad at July 27, 2006 10:28 AM (Ta3y1) 239
Oooh ... sweet!
Posted by: Bill from INDC at July 27, 2006 10:28 AM (yZMsp) 240
Okay, who am I?
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at July 27, 2006 10:28 AM (Uw+Lj) 241
I get a + in mine--does that make me extra-special?
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at July 27, 2006 10:29 AM (Uw+Lj) 242
If I don't like my new name, I want my money back.
Posted by: Pixie Pug at July 27, 2006 10:31 AM (YWRlP) 243
Y-Wrip? Why not?
Posted by: Pixie Pug at July 27, 2006 10:34 AM (YWRlP) 244
So...If I never post again under my regular screen name, nobody will know who this is without running through all the old threads hoping to find a match to a time I did use my regular screen name. Or until I post under my regular screen name in the same or future thread.
Woot! Goodbye old screen name. Hello, 1,000,000 aliases! Posted by: Beat the system at July 27, 2006 10:37 AM (YpIcX) Posted by: Dave in Texas at July 27, 2006 10:40 AM (pzen5) Posted by: Pompous at July 27, 2006 10:41 AM (pwn6J) 247
Why are you people still using your old human names? They are a form of oppression that ties you down to your old masters.
Throw off the shackles of the patriarchal unthinking machine and accept your new identity! Be educatedstupid no more! We are free, my sibrothisters! ("brother" and "sister" are tools of the old regime orthodoxy meant to force you to conform to false and restrictive sexual dichotomy of 'male' and 'female', in the ether tubes all bits are created equal!) We are beyond good and evil, beyond male and female, beyond right and left, beyond life or death, beyond reason, beyond sane and insane, beyond marshmallow balls and whipcream poontang! We are the children of the New World Order. Join the Revolution. I am m6c4H. Welcome to the glorious future. Posted by: m6c4H at July 27, 2006 10:41 AM (m6c4H) 248
No Whammies, No Whammies, No Whammies, No Whammies, Stop.
Posted by: The Apologist at July 27, 2006 10:42 AM (dLauL) 249
I agree with Amish. I've posted as everyone from Charles Darwin to God, but it won't be as fun if I'm not anonymous.
Posted by: adolfo velasquez at July 27, 2006 10:43 AM (HGwFT) 250
Holy crap! I pwned 6 J's ina row.
Posted by: Pompous at July 27, 2006 10:43 AM (pwn6J) 251
I want one.
Posted by: grady at July 27, 2006 10:44 AM (cAv5L) 252
meh.
Posted by: grady at July 27, 2006 10:46 AM (cAv5L) 253
Carin's is "I Do it". That's awesome. I should hit on her.
Posted by: Roy at July 27, 2006 10:47 AM (2XXia) 254
I want to see my code ... well, one of them.
Posted by: meep at July 27, 2006 10:47 AM (5j3FI) 255
I demand amnesty for all previous posts! And I admit nothing! Proof? You claim you have proof?? I spit on your infidel proof!
Posted by: Ayatollah Bullington (PBUH) at July 27, 2006 10:47 AM (/QYGF) 256
Woo Hoo!
This is my chance to go back to being a lurker just waiting to spring my diabolical trap. Posted by: Make the system work 4 U at July 27, 2006 10:48 AM (n0lBX) 257
The original comment by "Ellison" (aka Glenn Greenwald) was given the hash: zb6Cg.
It was left on Ace's "Karl Rove" post on July 12 (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/185904.php), comment at 8:14 am. Anyone want to go over all of Ace's posts since July 12 looking for other instances of "zb6Cg"? Posted by: Phinn at July 27, 2006 10:48 AM (DiZv6) 258
I, too, Agree with Amish and Adolfo. Is there a way that these new "id codes" can be made visible solely by Ace (like he can see our IP addresses) but not to commenters?
I think I have more fun reading comments under names like "Thomas Jefferson" or watching comment battles erupt between Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton than I would if I knew who was really posting those entries. Posted by: Agrees with Amish at July 27, 2006 10:48 AM (YpIcX) 259
Aw, man, mine is boring. I'll have to check out my home code.
Posted by: meep at July 27, 2006 10:48 AM (5j3FI) 260
I want THX 1138 or I'm never posting here again.
Posted by: Robert Duvall at July 27, 2006 10:49 AM (pzen5) 261
As our first action of the new era of Peoplekind (which includes animals, because animals are people too), we must rewrite the TCP/IP protocol.
The inequality inherant in the system is it's fatal flaw. It contradicts the one true ideology. From now on, binary will become unitary. All bits will be '0', and therefor equal. There shall be no 1's. Once all bits are 0, we shall be able to communicate any variety of infinite ideas with just one bit. The message will mean everything at once, and the universe will become known to us, and we shall be as God standing amongst the stars and weaving our own collective destiny. Posted by: m6c4H at July 27, 2006 10:50 AM (m6c4H) 262
Gotta see my hash...
Posted by: DevilDog at July 27, 2006 10:50 AM (XSqud) 263
testing for what reasons I just don't know.
Posted by: morning wood at July 27, 2006 10:53 AM (+aNmG) 264
Bite my hash
Posted by: Toby928 at July 27, 2006 10:53 AM (gAFb5) 265
I'm changing my name.
Posted by: I Do It at July 27, 2006 10:53 AM (CboaB) 266
Okay, at work:
Posted by: Tom M at July 27, 2006 10:54 AM (d6bNm) 267
and this one also
Posted by: Toby928 at July 27, 2006 10:54 AM (mAl2o) 268
Ah, it's based on IP, which Ace already has. Nevermind.
Posted by: Phinn at July 27, 2006 10:54 AM (DiZv6) 269
Ack, why did my name change? I used to be (lDoit) and now I'm CboaB (obviously).
WHY DID IT CHANGE? I was just beginning to like it. Posted by: the artist formerly known as I Do It at July 27, 2006 10:55 AM (CboaB) 270
DevilDog, if you're former Navy I'm going to charge conspiracy again.
Posted by: Brett Bullington at July 27, 2006 10:56 AM (/QYGF) 271
Devil Dog, I am so envious...what'd ya do to get Xsquad? I wanna be a super hero too.
Posted by: PattyAnn at July 27, 2006 10:57 AM (qCDkl) 272
I'm going to get a good hash if I have to fish all day
Posted by: Toby928 at July 27, 2006 10:57 AM (vwLgd) 273
You guys all missed your chance when my name was "I Do It". I was feeling all randy ...
But now I'm just all CboaB. Posted by: Carin at July 27, 2006 10:58 AM (CboaB) 274
vwLgd hmmm not too bad but I think there is better out there
Posted by: Toby928 at July 27, 2006 10:58 AM (vwLgd) 275
How about from Iran?
Posted by: Toby928 at July 27, 2006 11:02 AM (ZnW/G) 276
Test:
One of those dictator-loving Code Pink idiot bitches disrupted the Bolton hearing this morning. : ) Posted by: stace at July 27, 2006 11:03 AM (A56/D) Posted by: A. Weasel at July 27, 2006 11:05 AM (8a2Yo) Posted by: jackie chan at July 27, 2006 11:06 AM (0tmWI) 279
Carin, yeah--youwuz robbed!
Posted by: Amish is really screwed now at July 27, 2006 11:08 AM (/QYGF) 280
Toby,
That one's not so bad. "Innate Suzi-Q." Oh, wait. I don't know how you're doing that, but I bet Amish would pay good money for it. Posted by: Brett Bullington at July 27, 2006 11:12 AM (/QYGF) 281
A Weasel's handle (8a2Yo)has the right balance of Shakespeare and modern slang
Et tu Yo! Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 11:15 AM (h76y6) Posted by: A. Weasel at July 27, 2006 11:15 AM (8a2Yo) 283
It's a hash function, yes? How many bits is it based on? Are we talking something like md5, SHA1 or blowfish?
Posted by: doolz at July 27, 2006 11:17 AM (fX4/O) 284
<blockqoute>DevilDog, if you're former Navy I'm going to charge conspiracy again.</blockquote>Eh, Marine Corps, actually. Still, Department of the Navy at least.
<blockquote>Devil Dog, I am so envious...what'd ya do to get Xsquad? I wanna be a super hero too.</blockquote>Just typed and posted. But I can live with it. Hope this comments thingy takes the blockquotes alright. If not, I apologize in advance for what might turn out to be one hellaciously ugly comment. Posted by: DevilDog at July 27, 2006 11:17 AM (KhmJv) 285
What IP address do I need to get a hash of "bbeck"?
Posted by: pbrown at July 27, 2006 11:18 AM (7b6pT) 286
round robin
Posted by: test at July 27, 2006 11:19 AM (mAl2o) 287
Pixy-
If this is payback for that geek from Road Warriors thing I take it back. Can't we get along? How about something like stuD4U 12iNch HotgUY Where's the love? Posted by: rnOZq at July 27, 2006 11:19 AM (rnOZq) 288
Devil, now you lost your cool exSquid handle. How does this stuff work?
Posted by: Brett Bullington at July 27, 2006 11:19 AM (/QYGF) 289
And it works, too. I posted my most recent comment from a different IP address than the original. I think I like XSqud better than KhmJv.
Posted by: DevilDog at July 27, 2006 11:20 AM (KhmJv) 290
You're also massively truncating the hash. I'd use SHA or TIGER-192 in an HMAC scheme, show the first eight hex digits and put the full hash in an <acronym> or <title> tag for rollover. Assuming a 'good' hash function, eight hex digits drops the collision probability to less than 1 in 4 billion. If you get a collision, the full 160- or 192-bit hash should disambiguate things. In the comments in my thread on this, I go into some detail on collision probabilities for a 128-bit MD5 hash (expressed in base64). Since we're dealing with a (relatively) small set of IP data points on any given blog (or even on the Internet as a whole), the chance on a collision is exceedingly low, even if the distribution for plaintext changes is less than perfect. (Keep in mind, to compute this properly, you need to apply the "birthday match" algorithm if you want to see the odds of no one on your blog ever having an accidental hash match.) The short version: if you have comments from a million different IP addresses on your blog, the chance of anyone having an accidental match in the first 12 characters is roughly 10 billion to one against. I also put together an example of a single-character link with a mouseover showing the full 22-character IP hash. Posted by: VekTor at July 27, 2006 11:20 AM (5zVVd) 291
rnOZq,
you can have fUgLy Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 11:21 AM (h76y6) 292
rr
Posted by: test at July 27, 2006 11:21 AM (vwLgd) 293
Bah. That first paragraph should be block-quoted, it was David Gillies that wrote that.
Posted by: VekTor at July 27, 2006 11:22 AM (5zVVd) 294
Just joshing you, JackStraw!
Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 11:24 AM (tyRhL) Posted by: a4g at July 27, 2006 11:25 AM (5NOtQ) 296
hehe... snot Q.
Posted by: VekTor at July 27, 2006 11:26 AM (5zVVd) 297
This should have been done years ago. The outfit which held the Blackberry patent will probably come knocking.
Posted by: Phil S. Tyne at July 27, 2006 11:27 AM (Ed3kN) Posted by: JackStraw at July 27, 2006 11:30 AM (rnOZq) 299
Okay, here goes - will it be lame? Or acceptable?
Posted by: Rocketeer at July 27, 2006 11:32 AM (Mg597) 300
I want a fingerprint!
Posted by: Mark at July 27, 2006 11:34 AM (4k1jT) 301
now we see the violence inherent in the system!
Posted by: hobgoblin at July 27, 2006 11:36 AM (p1s9n) 302
I agree that only Ace/Pixy/LauraW should be able to see the hashes/IP thingamajigs. Takes the fun out, especially if my handle is as bland as .....
Hey! wait a minute! My handle changed fromh76y6 to tyRhL. Is Pixy playing games, or did my IP change on me? Tushar Posted by: Easily Distracted at July 27, 2006 11:36 AM (h76y6) 303
Lets see if the Emperor likes his faceless work ID better than his faceless cafe ID.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at July 27, 2006 11:36 AM (w4Bx4) 304
Zoinks! back to h76y6.
This blog is spooky. Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 11:37 AM (h76y6) Posted by: hobgoblin at July 27, 2006 11:37 AM (p1s9n) 306
?
Posted by: Warden at July 27, 2006 11:38 AM (rkK3q) 307
Hee Hee
hobgoblin (p1s9n) is Pissin.... Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 11:39 AM (h76y6) Posted by: hobgoblin at July 27, 2006 11:39 AM (p1s9n) 309
hmmmm...let's see...twist it to the right just a tad...and tighten.....
How's that? Posted by: Warden at July 27, 2006 11:40 AM (rkK3q) 310
Kralizec...
Posted by: Kralizec at July 27, 2006 11:41 AM (m5x6c) Posted by: Rocketeer at July 27, 2006 11:41 AM (Mg597) 312
I knew I kept that dial up account for a reason.
Posted by: seattle slough at July 27, 2006 11:41 AM (H5l9d) Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 11:42 AM (R8+nJ) 314
Okay, my turn. Come on cool fingerprint thingy!
Posted by: Enas Yorl at July 27, 2006 11:43 AM (4Au3T) 315
...is m5x6c, until my host changes mydynamic IP address.
Posted by: Kralizec at July 27, 2006 11:43 AM (m5x6c) 316
Tushar, the end of your print looks pretty dirty, too 6y6
put a little hair above that and it's propably even a 1:1 scale model of your bits. Posted by: hobgoblin at July 27, 2006 11:43 AM (p1s9n) 317
I dont know whether this is a joke or not but if it isnt Im about to ruin your day:
Ana Marie Cox Named Washington Editor of Time.com Posted by: at July 27, 2006 11:44 AM (OEbrS) 318
Thanks, hobgoblin... it's a badge I wear proudly.
Posted by: VekTor at July 27, 2006 11:44 AM (5zVVd) 319
This is just an insane thread. What a bunch of maroons we all are. Of course I include myself in such fine company.
Posted by: who dere, Laddy at July 27, 2006 11:44 AM (1R3uI) 320
My sock puppets are unanimous in hating this new feature.
Posted by: Kralizec at July 27, 2006 11:45 AM (m5x6c) 321
Well, I guess that means a lot more sodomy jokes in Time.
Posted by: Slublog at July 27, 2006 11:45 AM (R8+nJ) 322
Hey, I almost rule -- 1R3uI. Instead I are 3 un interrupted which is certainly my maturity level.
Posted by: who dere, Laddy at July 27, 2006 11:46 AM (1R3uI) 323
Wow. 300+ comments. I am amazed at how cool this new fingerprinting is and how much it fascinates people.
This is how you do an open thread, folks. Now I want a blog, just so I can trackback to this. Oh, well. Posted by: Some Guy at July 27, 2006 11:51 AM (lPxkl) 324
Code check
Posted by: Mark_D at July 27, 2006 11:53 AM (d38jD) 325
I'm just confused.
Posted by: Pixie Pug at July 27, 2006 11:56 AM (YWRlP) 326
I lurk here every day, yet can only understand about 20% of the above comments.
Posted by: Pepper at July 27, 2006 11:57 AM (sxiHn) Posted by: Dave in Texas at July 27, 2006 11:59 AM (tW8e6) 328
I lurk here every day, yet can only understand about 20% of the above comments.
It's the new code. Et tu Yo? Posted by: A. Weasel at July 27, 2006 12:01 PM (8a2Yo) 329
Some Guy you don't need a blog with those fancy-shmancy trackbacks that just seem to allways attract trolls.
You go on all the other blogs and post links to Ace's post in the comments section, and steal all thier readers away. All joo readers are belonging to us. Posted by: Entropy at July 27, 2006 12:01 PM (m6c4H) 330
Vector,
you should. It was meant in a lighthearted way, but after that book about coding, I was pretty sure I had stumbled on some sort of Hindi blog. Speaking of which, ace, where are the bollywood vids? Posted by: hobgoblin at July 27, 2006 12:02 PM (p1s9n) 331
Hey Dude, I'm sorry I gave you such grief about the Grenwald thing. I've been reading the web about that asshole and understand now, what a prick he is, I apologize for going off half informed. I listen to the radio webcast too and got my little 'Come To Jesus' message. I enjoy yer no bullshit take on current events, and promise to be a little more informed before I chuck my oar in in the future.
Keep up the good work, and continue kicking ass. confederatexpat Posted by: Patrick Kelley at July 27, 2006 12:06 PM (uTNRX) 332
Testing, testing...unsecure mode.
Posted by: el raymundo at July 27, 2006 12:06 PM (YgcmD) 333
test
Posted by: Steve #2 at July 27, 2006 12:12 PM (NEhff) 334
Man, I may be screwed. I have a static IP at work, so if I get a lame code, I'm stuck with it.
Posted by: Steve L. at July 27, 2006 12:15 PM (hpZf2) 335
hpZf2 - DAMMIT! It's lame!
Posted by: Steve L. at July 27, 2006 12:16 PM (hpZf2) 336
test
Posted by: Ruth at July 27, 2006 12:16 PM (DTwYZ) 337
2nd test
Posted by: Ruth at July 27, 2006 12:18 PM (DTwYZ) 338
sorry, test #3
Posted by: Ruth at July 27, 2006 12:19 PM (DTwYZ) 339
new comments thingy,
please spin me a hash Peg my IP quick as a flash New comments thingy, please make my socks dance so all y'all can see 'tis me new comments thingy, who's "Dick Cheney's Cock"? "Jefferson's tool"? "Jeff Greenwald's stalk"? new comments thingy ID me unique and give Ace a peek at me! Posted by: sulla at July 27, 2006 12:24 PM (ypFOB) 340
finally, test 4
Posted by: Ruth at July 27, 2006 12:26 PM (DTwYZ) 341
<p>(to the tune of "Matchmaker, Matchmaker" from Fiddler on the Roof)
New comments thingy, <br />please spin me a hash <br />Peg my IP <br />quick as a flash <br />New comments thingy, <br />please make my socks dance <br />so all y'all can see <br />'tis me <br /> <br />new comments thingy, <br />who's "Dick Cheney's Cock"? <br />"Jefferson's tool"? <br />"Jeff Greenwald's stalk"? <br />new comments thingy <br />ID me unique <br />and give Ace a peek <br />at me!</p> Posted by: sulla at July 27, 2006 12:27 PM (ypFOB) 342
>>put a little hair above that and it's propably even a 1:1 scale model of your bits.
Ha Ha Ha! I have a HUUUGE monitor here. I see what you mean.... Posted by: Tushar D at July 27, 2006 12:28 PM (tyRhL) Posted by: sulla at July 27, 2006 12:28 PM (ypFOB) 344
Man, I may be screwed. I have a static IP at work, so if I get a lame code, I'm stuck with it.
Silly noobz, your suppose to haxxor around that. It may not actually be static, it just might not change. It may be dynamic, but with a 6 month license. Most "static" ip's actually come that way, unless you have requested a specific IP address. Plus, when they're renewed they automatically reapply for the same IP, and the chances of not getting it are fairly miniscule. So (unless you need the same IP for some reason like you're hosting webmeetings or something) you can still change it whenever you want. Even if you have a static IP, you just have to spoof it then or route through another gateway. OR, you could break into your neighbors house and post on his computer. I recommend that. Or post from a cell phone or blackberry or wireless laptop, and just....move alot. Or, if you happen to kill Pixie and eat his raw brain, you will gain all his knowledge and the ability to shapeshift into his form, and then you can design a backdoor into mu.nu's comment system. All of these options are equally reasonable and feasible. Choose whichever you prefer. Posted by: Entropy at July 27, 2006 12:30 PM (m6c4H) 345
I need an internet stalker for my blog. Ignorance of IP addressing a must. So, Pixy, you're out.
Posted by: KM at July 27, 2006 12:41 PM (SxR3N) 346
Testies 1
Posted by: phin at July 27, 2006 12:43 PM (X42kM) 347
Well, let's see.
Posted by: Jay at July 27, 2006 12:43 PM (rD+kE) 348
Testies 2
Posted by: phin at July 27, 2006 12:43 PM (w0OQc) Posted by: Jay at July 27, 2006 12:44 PM (rD+kE) 350
Lauraw's "random" handle doesn't pass the smell test.
And if Feisty's comes up $20Bj you'll really be busted. Posted by: skinbad at July 27, 2006 12:48 PM (SwH/f) 351
I wonder if it's changed.
Posted by: Shawn, but not lowercased shawn at July 27, 2006 12:52 PM (Ffvoi) 352
rr 1
Posted by: test at July 27, 2006 12:54 PM (ZnW/G) 353
rr 2
Posted by: test at July 27, 2006 12:54 PM (gAFb5) 354
rr 3
Posted by: test at July 27, 2006 12:55 PM (gAFb5) 355
*applies strawberry lip gloss andfluffs hairdoin mirror*
*puts on pretty dress made of human skin* Posted by: lauraw at July 27, 2006 12:55 PM (Fox3G) 356
Interesting. First I was Wkh5O, then I became FFvoi. I'm guessing this has something to do with AOL.
Posted by: Shawn, but not lowercased shawn at July 27, 2006 12:56 PM (Ffvoi) 357
rr 5
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rr 6
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rr 7
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rr 8
Posted by: test at July 27, 2006 12:57 PM (gAFb5) Posted by: Brett Bullington at July 27, 2006 01:17 PM (/QYGF) Posted by: bbeck at July 27, 2006 01:20 PM (qF8q3) 363
Shiny new toy? I never cared for chrome on my toys. Flakes off after too long.
Now-- launching missiles, or lights and sounds... What? Posted by: Some Guy at July 27, 2006 01:22 PM (lPxkl) 364
Back to the original IP. XSqud again?
Posted by: DevilDog at July 27, 2006 01:22 PM (XSqud) 365
I like perl now!
Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 27, 2006 01:23 PM (++0ve) 366
Cool. I think from now on I shall post under the name XSqu(a)d.
Posted by: DevilDog at July 27, 2006 01:24 PM (XSqud) 367
Me too Pixy!
Posted by: Kevin at July 27, 2006 01:26 PM (++0ve) 368
Test
Posted by: Lord Floppington at July 27, 2006 01:33 PM (NpQqC) 369
And for the nerds out there, with a 30-bit displayed hash, assuming even distribution, you'd get a 50% chance of still having zero accidental matches once you hit 38,582 different IP addresses commenting on the same blog.
Of course, once you have that many people commenting on one blog, it's going to be nigh-impossible to keep track of anything anyway. Posted by: VekTor at July 27, 2006 01:36 PM (5zVVd) 370
direct
Posted by: test at July 27, 2006 01:45 PM (gAFb5) 371
direct 3
Posted by: test at July 27, 2006 01:48 PM (ZnW/G) Posted by: glenster at July 27, 2006 01:50 PM (7vc4Z) 373
4
Posted by: test at July 27, 2006 01:50 PM (ATbKm) 374
5
Posted by: test at July 27, 2006 01:51 PM (ATbKm) 375
Ooo, I hope I get "5Cats" as my thingie...
Posted by: 5Cats at July 27, 2006 02:47 PM (cVijR) 376
Waaaa!
Posted by: 5Cats at July 27, 2006 02:47 PM (cVijR) 377
what's mine?
Posted by: let's see at July 27, 2006 02:58 PM (njLsB) 378
Cool! njLsb I'm going by ninja Lesbian from now on.
Posted by: let's see at July 27, 2006 03:01 PM (njLsB) 379
I think I can bust this system. Sock Puppet #2 will be posting soon.
Posted by: Sock Puppet #1 at July 27, 2006 03:34 PM (B9lJ8) 380
Did I bust it? Let's check the IP Hash.
Posted by: Sock Puppet #2 at July 27, 2006 03:35 PM (oNgqV) 381
BUSTED!
My DSL account has dynamic IPs so each time I connect I get a new address. It appears that many people don't have this so the hash feature is still useful - just not a 100% problem solver. Posted by: Both Sock Puppets at July 27, 2006 03:37 PM (oNgqV) 382
My cable modem, on the other hand, has a "dynamic" IP address that hasn't changed in 3 years. I set up DNS to it and use it for SSH, FTP, and personal web hosting.
Posted by: jhc at July 27, 2006 03:55 PM (+lA9g) 383
Testing here, too.
Posted by: Victoria at July 27, 2006 04:19 PM (04h7g) 384
Yes, it's not bulletproof, but it is designed to auto-dank* a whole lot of people out of the gate, and therefore serves as a useful deterrent IMO.
Posted by: VekTor at July 27, 2006 04:24 PM (5zVVd) 385
ok, one more time (or three)
Work # 1: Posted by: Tom M at July 27, 2006 04:38 PM (d6bNm) 386
work comp #2:
Posted by: Tom M at July 27, 2006 04:40 PM (d6bNm) Posted by: Tom M at July 27, 2006 04:41 PM (d6bNm) 388
Home comp when i get out of this stinking hell hole.
Posted by: Tom M at July 27, 2006 04:42 PM (d6bNm) 389
test
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Want to see what I am at home. Know it will be disappointing.
Posted by: lauraw at July 27, 2006 05:55 PM (JPN72) Posted by: John at July 27, 2006 06:06 PM (30uPm) 394
trying home ip
Posted by: meep at July 27, 2006 06:10 PM (UJPBc) 395
Just curious about my footprint.
Posted by: CT at July 27, 2006 08:08 PM (mwWH0) 396
I've got a cable modem with a faux-static IP. Lets see if she breaks.
Posted by: Entropy at July 27, 2006 09:52 PM (Uh5fR) 397
Aww damn thing won't give me a new IP now..
Posted by: Entropy at July 27, 2006 09:54 PM (Uh5fR) 398
But I can still do this!
Posted by: Entropy at July 27, 2006 09:57 PM (XXbnx) 399
I win! You'll never catch me, coppers!
I'm like a green beret when I'm posting on your blog. I sneak in, and I leave my comments, and I sneak back out again. I'm like a shadow when I'm inside your blog. Posted by: Entropy at July 27, 2006 09:58 PM (XXbnx) 400
Hmmm.
Posted by: Entropy at July 27, 2006 10:07 PM (YCF3h) 401
I rule.
Posted by: Entropy at July 27, 2006 10:11 PM (MLnMv) 402
1 more..
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1 more for good measure.
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My socket puppets : Not quite dead yet, sir!
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