Mr. Cool Pretty Jazzed About His Gutsy Call

Obama's new ad claims he made a call others wouldn't, and includes an out of context quote by Romney suggesting that Romney wouldn't have made the call.

Here is the out-of-context quote, which, if you search for it on Google, you'll find thousands of times, without context. You have to page forward a lot to find the context.

"It's not worth moving heaven and earth and spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person."

This got pushed by McCain back in the primary of 2007. The late great Dean Barnett inquired into the actual context of the quote (AP only reported what's above) and found that AP was distorting Romney's meaning.

Our own Matt Lewis, showing the innate industriousness that sets Townhall contributors apart, contacted the Romney campaign and got the full text of the interview. Surprise, surprise- turns out the AP did miss some context. The exchange between Romney and reporter Liz Sidoti went as follows:

LIZ SIDOTI: "Why haven't we caught bin Laden in your opinion?"

GOVERNOR MITT ROMNEY: "I think, I wouldn't want to over-concentrate on Bin Laden. He's one of many, many people who are involved in this global Jihadist effort. He's by no means the only leader. It's a very diverse group – Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood and of course different names throughout the world. It's not worth moving heaven and earth and spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person. It is worth fashioning and
executing an effective strategy to defeat global, violent Jihad and I have a plan for doing that."

So Romney's quote was intended to suggest that we need to do more, not less, in the war on Jihad, and that killing a single man was useful but not sufficient.

This is being turned into "Romney doesn't care about bin Ladin."

Democrats have long urged limited war aims (actually, no war at all, but that's "limited.") The argument through the war has been minimalist versus maximalist. I'm not confident in Bush's version of maximalism any longer (I do not want to use our troops to nation build, ever), but it's absurd to turn a quote by Romney urging a maximalist response -- kill bin Ladin, yes, but don't focus only on that; we have a much larger war to win -- as somehow suggesting he wouldn't even do the minimum.

Barnett continues:

SIDOTI: "But would the world be safer if bin laden were caught?"

GOVERNOR ROMNEY: "Yes, but by a small percentage increase – a very insignificant increase in safety by virtue of replacing bin Laden with someone else. Zarqawi – we celebrated the killing of Zarqawi, but he was quickly replaced. Global Jihad is not an effort that is being populated by a handful or even a football stadium full of people. It is – it involves millions of people and is going to require a far more comprehensive strategy than a targeted approach for bin laden or a few of his associates."

SIDOTI: "Do you fault the administration for not catching him though? I mean, they've had quite a few years going after him."

GOVERNOR ROMNEY: "There are many things that have not been done perfectly in any conduct of war. In the Second World War, we paratroopered in our troops further than they were supposed to be from the beaches. We landed in places on the beaches that weren't anticipated. Do I fault Eisenhower? No, he won. And I'm nowhere near as consumed with bin Laden as I am concerned about global Jihadist efforts."

Another bit of context that must be understood: At the time, the media and the liberal Democrats (but I repeat myself) was attempting to claim the War on Terror was a failure due to the single variable "Have we got bin Ladin?" (Of course, had Bush gotten him, they would have changed the premise to "The war is a failure unless we get Zarqawi," or whoever was left.)

Bush's political strategy at the time was reminding people that this wasn't just some global posse set to arrest or kill a single man-- that terror was not the work of a single man, Al Qaeda was not the work of a single man, 9/11 was not the work of a single man, but rather of a million-plus strong movement and ideology, and that that ideology -- not a singe standard-bearer -- had to be defeated.

Posted by: Ace at 11:59 AM



Comments

1

TRUE FACT:
Republicans are warmongers, except when they aren't.

Posted by: dan-O at April 27, 2012 12:01 PM (sWycd)

2 are we are war with Oceania, or Eurasia??

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 27, 2012 12:01 PM (Dll6b)

3 Muttsy Call.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 27, 2012 12:02 PM (X3lox)

4 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 27, 2012 12:02 PM (8y9MW)

5 AT war --- I blame Bush, or The Jews, for the formatting and typos

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 27, 2012 12:02 PM (Dll6b)

6 And now we have members of the Muslim Brotherhood working in our own national security.

Barky's going to get us all killed.

Gutsy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2012 12:02 PM (UOM48)

7 It was Admiral McRaven and his command team and the actual soldiers who made the gutsy calls.

SCOAMF was ready to throw them under the bus if it failed. He wanted to cover his own ass.

He is a despicable momzer.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2012 12:02 PM (Af3Wg)

8 While Prezneet "Touchdown Dance" spikes his football;

What 'Gutsy Call'?: CIA Memo Reveals Admiral Controlled bin Laden Mission

http://tinyurl.com/77zdnbn

Posted by: kbdabear at April 27, 2012 12:02 PM (Y+DPZ)

9 The deuce! Media and Democrats lying to destroy Republicans again?

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2012 12:02 PM (I2LwF)

10 If getting Bin Laden is to be the end-all, be-all of Democrat focus, then why the fuck didn't Clintoon stop him in the first place?


Asses. All of them.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 27, 2012 12:02 PM (ebPtk)

11 (Of course, had Bush gotten him, they would have changed the premise to "The war is a failure unless we get Zarqawi," or whoever was left.)

Nah.

The MSNBC talking heads would be saying that "Obama was only one man, and not a very important one at that. His death created thousands of new terrorists and solved nothing!"

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 12:02 PM (niZvt)

12 Bumper Sticker:

"Where are the adults?"

Posted by: Jypsea Rose~AoSHQ Graveyard Shift at April 27, 2012 12:03 PM (iKSAz)

13 The Sleazy Preezy took 8 months to make that 'gutsy call'. ....That's not gutzy, it's putzy.

Posted by: wheatie at April 27, 2012 12:03 PM (O4AQQ)

14 We misunderstood the Barkster when he said the War on Terror is over. He meant to say the War on Terriers is over.

(Shameless repeat of something I said yesterday.)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2012 12:04 PM (UOM48)

15 If it had failed, we'd have never heard about it. If we accidentally heard about it failing, it would have been someone else's (Bush?) fault. Presideezee Oskeezee is a SCOAMF.

Posted by: huerfano at April 27, 2012 12:04 PM (bAGA/)

16 Bumper Sticker:



"Where are the adults humans?"

Posted by: Jypsea Rose~AoSHQ Graveyard Shift at April 27, 2012 12:03 PM (iKSAz)

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 27, 2012 12:05 PM (X3lox)

17 Barky had the bus all warmed up for the admiral.

Just in case.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2012 12:05 PM (UOM48)

18 Jane: If you have a good line, ride it til it keels over dead!

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2012 12:05 PM (I2LwF)

19 I'm pretty jizzed every night, thanks to Reggie.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at April 27, 2012 12:06 PM (ggRof)

20 omg....they used Bill Clinton-

Bull Shitter in Chief!

Posted by: tasker at April 27, 2012 12:06 PM (r2PLg)

21
I'd hope that Mitt's plan to combat global jihad is to actually act like we have enemies who want to kill us.

Unlike Mr. Cool's plan of hugs, flowers and Kumbaya. Oh, and treating Americanfour-year-olds like terrorists at airports.

Good Lord, people on the left are idiots...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 27, 2012 12:06 PM (d0Tfm)

22 The trolls... They've stopped!

Posted by: Gold Two at April 27, 2012 12:06 PM (APmL9)

23 Every time I see that War Room picture, I'm reminded of a kid who's stuck at his dad's office on a Saturday.

Posted by: Alex at April 27, 2012 12:06 PM (zSobX)

24 Yeah, this spin that Romney wouldn't have made the Gutsy Call is patently ludicrous. You'd have to be a raving lunatic to think pretty much any non-Paul/non-Kucinich politician wouldn't make that call.

But I wonder about this:

"It is worth fashioning and executing an effective strategy to defeat global, violent Jihad and I have a plan for doing that."

What is Romney's strategy for defeating global jihad?

On the heels of Rubio's foreign policy speech there's been some analysis/commentary that the GOP is losing the foreign policy cred war against Obama. And I feel Romney, although obviously an upgrade from the America-hating Obama and his cabal of pandering nitwits, is not particularly strong in foreign policy. Or, he's not very good at expressing his foreign policy vision.

So I guess I wonder why Bolton's name isn't being floated as VP contender to shore up Romney's ticket.

Posted by: Y-not at April 27, 2012 12:06 PM (5H6zj)

25 *Let's do Time Warp, yeah!*

Here's what Obama had to say in 2008 about bin Laden (Jim Geraghty)

In 2008, Obama Hated ‘Invoking bin Laden to Make Political Points’

http://tinyurl.com/cqa4f5u

Posted by: Stating the Obvious at April 27, 2012 12:06 PM (3jWQZ)

26 18
Jane: If you have a good line, ride it til it keels over dead!

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2012 12:05 PM (I2LwF



Heh. When it's all I've got I'm going to work it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2012 12:07 PM (UOM48)

27 Yeah, sure, like Mitt Romney would have slept on that decision for 17 hours.

Think about that for a minute. Anyone who is president would be fantasizing about what he would do if Seal Team Six said, "Do we take the shot, Mr. President?" Anyone. You'd have a plan. You'd know what to do if that call came down in the same way that a little kid knows how to celebrate hitting a walk-off game-winning homer in the World Series.

And especially Mitt Romney, who has a detailed plan for how to comb his hair.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2012 12:07 PM (T0NGe)

28 Furthermore, in the video Clinton says "suppose they (the troops) had been captured or killed? The downside would have been horrible for him (Obama)".

Clinton is too smart not to get how bad this juxtaposition is. I think he's still mad at Barry and is subtly torpedoing him.

Posted by: pep at April 27, 2012 12:07 PM (YXmuI)

29 You gotta be $%#^ kidding me.

All the obstacles they put in the way?

The damn drone program which probably got them the needed recon was started by--

you guessed it-


George W. Bush.

Posted by: tasker at April 27, 2012 12:07 PM (r2PLg)

30 Asking moochie to stop hogging the blanked qualifies as a "gutsy call" fo da Zero.

Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2012 12:08 PM (OlN4e)

31 14
We misunderstood the Barkster when he said the War on Terror is over. He meant to say the War on Terriers is over.

(Shameless repeat of something I said yesterday.)


It's new to me! And it is funny.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2012 12:08 PM (T0NGe)

32 Apparently, the gutsy call went something along these lines:

Admiral: "We have intelligence that Bin Laden is physically there."
Obama: "Is the intelligence that sound?"
Admiral: "Yes. We think so."
Obama: "Do you think I should make the call?"
Admiral: "Yes."
Obama: "Aye, aye, sir."

Posted by: jwb7605 at April 27, 2012 12:08 PM (Qxe/p)

33 Every time I see that War Room picture, I'm reminded of a kid who's stuck at his dad's office on a Saturday.


Posted by: Alex at April 27, 2012 12:06 PM (zSobX)


It looked to me like the camera from inside the short bus. There weren't even 100 IQ points in that room, all together.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 27, 2012 12:08 PM (X3lox)

34 28 Furthermore, in the video Clinton says "suppose they (the troops) had been captured or killed? The downside would have been horrible for him (Obama)".

Clinton is too smart not to get how bad this juxtaposition is. I think he's still mad at Barry and is subtly torpedoing him.
Posted by: pep at April 27, 2012 12:07 PM (YXmuI)

*****************

Ya, I had a huge problem with it right there also.

The hell Obama made the tough call.

Posted by: tasker at April 27, 2012 12:09 PM (r2PLg)

35 THE BALLS ON THESE GUYS!

Posted by: toby928© at April 27, 2012 12:09 PM (NG097)

36 My problem with this is that it takes too much time to explain. Those "low information voters" are going to see the quote, and if you tell them, "that's out of context," they'll tune out.

So we need to craft a quick, sound-bite rebuttal that isn't just "they're lying."

We need the full quote easily book-marked and distributed, but we also need a fast summation of what he said.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 27, 2012 12:09 PM (8y9MW)

37 I'm just glad none of our boys have died in war since January 20, 2009. And polar bear populations are increasing.

Posted by: Dumb Lib at April 27, 2012 12:09 PM (NaBqG)

38 Remember when the SEALs took out the Somali pirates with the kill shots from the back of a ship?

Rumor had it that Barky was unhappy about that decision. He wanted the scrawny, misunderstood brown people captured alive.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2012 12:09 PM (UOM48)

39 I envision a racially-charged political cartoon, a skinny wide receiver in the end zone, his grinning face highly recognizable, doing the touchdown dance, his arm raised high, in his hand the severed head of UBL.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at April 27, 2012 12:10 PM (ybkwK)

40 Ugly polls today.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2012 12:10 PM (Ec6wH)

41 Not watching the ad. Does it show Barky coming off the green in his golf shoes to make the gutsy call?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 27, 2012 12:10 PM (pLTLS)

42 Gutsy McCool doesn't want this getting too much attention

Elite Afghan soldier kills U.S. special forces mentor

http://tinyurl.com/6q2c3ab

Posted by: kbdabear at April 27, 2012 12:10 PM (Y+DPZ)

43 "Obama was only one man, and not a very important one at that. His
death created thousands of new terrorists and solved nothing!"


Well that was an interesting typo. For anyone reading, I'm pretty sure the correct name was "Osama."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 27, 2012 12:11 PM (8y9MW)

44 Ugly Poles, today!

Posted by: Lisa Muklukski at April 27, 2012 12:11 PM (Ec6wH)

45 Obama and his minions are just getting warmed up with their bullshit storm of propaganda.

Posted by: Pipe Holder at April 27, 2012 12:11 PM (VTeUD)

46 I thought for every one of the moslem terroristswe killed, we created 10 more terrorists. Was that scientific fact revised down?

Posted by: Jimmah at April 27, 2012 12:11 PM (UpwlP)

47 Hey, remember when Obama had one chance to make the right call on Keystone XL? And he blew it?

And he really did only have one chance. Stephen Harper is telling people we have to pay global prices for Canadian oil now because of that decision. We could've been the single customer for their product, but no, now they have to diversify because they can't risk us telling them no again.

Posted by: Caiwyn at April 27, 2012 12:11 PM (ttktr)

48 Mr Cool shouldn''t be bragging about a call he didn't even make.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 27, 2012 12:12 PM (F0K0r)

49 From jtLOL Twitter:

POTUS gets MST'ied: http://tinyurl.com/756tqr2

One of 'em sounds like Bill Whittle.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose~AoSHQ Graveyard Shift at April 27, 2012 12:12 PM (iKSAz)

50 Jimmah Chaatah made the tough call in the Iran hostage situation too. And when his micromanaged mess degenerated into a catastrophy, he made the gutsy call to run away and give up, just like Zero would have done had things gone poorly for his raid. And BTW, I don't really think giving the Chicoms a copy of our most advanced helicoptor was much of a triumph for us.

Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2012 12:13 PM (OlN4e)

51 Remember when the SEALs took out the Somali pirates with the kill shots from the back of a ship?

Rumor had it that Barky was unhappy about that decision. He wanted the scrawny, misunderstood brown people captured alive.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2012 12:09 PM (UOM4


Barky the dog-eating retard had stopped the SEALs from doing anything for three days in that ridiculous situation - after the hostage captain had jumped overboard and the SEALs (not authorized to do anything) had to watch as the pirates scooped th poor guy back up and went back to their hostage situation. It was the commander on the ground who finally decided that enough was enough. Not Barky, who tried his best to fuck up the situation, just as he did with refusing troops and demanding a new strategic review for Afghanistan, which has resulted in a clear and steady deterioration.

Barky makes "gutsy calls" against America, and nothing else. He is an enemy of civilization. Dog-eater. Plain and simple. ANd needs to be clad in an orange jumpsuit for the rest of his miserable, worthless, destructive life.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 27, 2012 12:14 PM (X3lox)

52 41 Not watching the ad. Does it show Barky coming off the green in his golf shoes to make the gutsy call?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 27, 2012 12:10 PM (pLTLS)

*************

It shows him staring out a window--with his hands in his pockets.

Posted by: tasker at April 27, 2012 12:14 PM (r2PLg)

53 It looked to me like the camera from inside the short bus. There weren't even 100 IQ points in that room, all together.

That's unfair. You don't get to be a LTC in the US Air Force without being intelligent. The civilian knuckleheads, on the other hand...

Posted by: Alex at April 27, 2012 12:14 PM (zSobX)

54 This could be titled "A no-brainer call takes all night to sleep on it".

Posted by: navybrat at April 27, 2012 12:14 PM (JkMci)

55 If I'd had the intel of OBL's whereabouts, I would have gone there myself and ripped his heart out with my bare hands.

Then I would have thrown that heart into the Red Sea myself.

From Afghanistan.

On the fly without a single bounce


Posted by: Darth Cheney at April 27, 2012 12:15 PM (Y+DPZ)

56 I still want to see the pictures.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at April 27, 2012 12:15 PM (YmPwQ)

57 [ ] Order SEAL team to take out Bin Laden
[ ] Act like I'm the bravest. President. EVAR
[ ] Celebrate with my favorite meal of schnauzer liver with fava beans and a nice chianti
[X] All of the above

Posted by: President Checkbox at April 27, 2012 12:16 PM (2jQGY)

58 6 And now we have members of the Muslim Brotherhood working in our own national security.

Barky's going to get us all killed.

Gutsy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2012 12:02 PM (UOM4

Jane,

Have you see Rumors of War from Glen Beck TV?

I just watched it last night..

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 27, 2012 12:16 PM (DGIjM)

59 54
This could be titled "A no-brainer call takes all night to sleep on it" and get in nine holes of golf"


Posted by: navybrat at April 27, 2012 12:14 PM (JkMci)

fixed for truthiness


Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2012 12:16 PM (UOM48)

60 On the heels of Rubio's foreign policy speech there's been some
analysis/commentary that the GOP is losing the foreign policy cred war
against Obama.


Foreign policy in the post-cold war era is an afterthought. And Obama isn't really going to win by making the argument that he's tough.

It's like when a Democrat tries to look tough on crime. He might succeed in blunting the image that he's a criminal-friendly liberal douche, but (a) it's not like Republicans aren't better on this score and (b) at some point, he protests too much.

I mean, are we really supposed to give Obama credit for killing bin Laden as opposed to bowing to him?

Posted by: AmishDude at April 27, 2012 12:17 PM (T0NGe)

61 Did NBC do the edits for the ads?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2012 12:17 PM (1Jaio)

62 That's unfair. You don't get to be a LTC in the US
Air Force without being intelligent. The civilian knuckleheads, on the
other hand...


Posted by: Alex at April 27, 2012 12:14 PM (zSobX)


Colin Powell made 4 stars and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and he hasn't got more than two brain cells to rub together.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 27, 2012 12:17 PM (X3lox)

63 We were robbed of our right to say 'Farewell' to Osama.
We'll nrever get those 6 hours back!

Posted by: Ayman Al Zawahiri at April 27, 2012 12:18 PM (VwrfQ)

64 "Obama was only one man, and not a very important one at that. His
death created thousands of new terrorists and solved nothing!"

Well that was an interesting typo. For anyone reading, I'm pretty sure the correct name was "Osama."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 27, 2012 12:11 PM (8y9MW)

***********

Where is that?

Posted by: tasker at April 27, 2012 12:18 PM (r2PLg)

65 Loving the irony of Bill Fucking Clinton - the man that could have had bin Laden BEFORE 9-11, commenting on his capture years later.

Clinton was no better than Obama. Both are suckers of cock.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 27, 2012 12:19 PM (kFnmp)

66 Osama Obama is the gutsiest.

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at April 27, 2012 12:19 PM (VwrfQ)

67 Umm....we would have made the Gutsy Call too.

Posted by: Say about 90% of Americans at April 27, 2012 12:20 PM (ZhnHf)

68 Us too!

Posted by: Say about 85% of Canadians at April 27, 2012 12:21 PM (ZhnHf)

69 Where is that?

CoolCzech @11.

Like I said- typo. I figured we should call it out as such, however.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 27, 2012 12:21 PM (8y9MW)

70
Let me get this straight, the admiral says we know where Bin Ladin is, we have forces in the area and we can get him without much if any collateral damage?
This was not a "gutsy call" it was a no-brainer.

Posted by: Warthog at April 27, 2012 12:21 PM (WDySP)

71 I'm sure the 3:00AM call was just enough to piss off Michelle into being owed another vacation.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 27, 2012 12:21 PM (UpwlP)

72 The Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure stutters at a sixth grade level:

"Obama addressed the coeds at the Universities of North Carolina, Colorado, and Iowa at a sixth grade reading level, according to Flesch-Kincaid reading comprehension difficulty tests conducted by the Washington Free Beacon."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 27, 2012 12:21 PM (ebPtk)

73 A gutsy call would be telling Michelle that he wants to pitch for a change.

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2012 12:22 PM (VwrfQ)

74 Let's hope Romney sees the war for what it is; an all encompassing conflict involving domestic security forces, aggressive intelligence operations, AND the military putting boot to ass when needed. The Democrats see it as a.) apolitically correct law enforcement operation as long as no one gets offended, and b) first responders picking up a lot of body parts one day.

Posted by: UGAdawg at April 27, 2012 12:22 PM (NAlbk)

75 Romney don't take a dump, son, without a plan.

Posted by: Admiral Josh Painter at April 27, 2012 12:22 PM (NG097)

76 And don't forget, it took Barky O'Genius 16 HOURS to make the "gusty call."

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 27, 2012 12:22 PM (kFnmp)

77 The Romney Campaign needs to come out with an ad saying,

"Lets talk about gutsy calls, Mr. President.

"Was it a gutsy call to block a multi billion dollar oil pipeline on the orders of your environmentalist backers?

"Was it a gutsy call spend your first year obsessed with taking over the US health care industry?

"Was it a gutsy call to ship thousands of weapons to Mexican drug cartels?

"Was it a gutsy call to play 90 rounds of golf and take 17 lavish vacations in three years?

"Mr. President, you've made one good call and a lot of bad ones. It's time for a change in leadership."

Posted by: Alex at April 27, 2012 12:23 PM (zSobX)

78 It's not worth moving heaven and earth and spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person.

So how much money did Obama spend on getting bin Laden ?

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 27, 2012 12:23 PM (e8kgV)

79 Foreign policy in the post-cold war era is an afterthought.

I completely disagree. Russia and China ascendent, the "Islamist Spring," and everybody and their uncooked dogs seeking nuclear weapons- Foreign policy is at least as important as domestic policy.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 27, 2012 12:23 PM (8y9MW)

80 Remember when Bush wasnt suppose to use Sadam's capture or 9-11 in any of his campaigns...

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 27, 2012 12:23 PM (DGIjM)

81 Oromney. Robama. Not one pussy hair of discernable difference. Never has so much been said about nothing.

Posted by: Frankenstein Government at April 27, 2012 12:23 PM (GOG1H)

82 This just shows you how desperate they are.

When reporting this story over at Daily Kooks, they are quoting BillClinton's remarks from the video. Quote: A failed mission, Clinton said, "would have been horrible for him, but
he reasoned 'I cannot in good conscience do nothing.' He took the harder
and more honorable path, and the one that produced, in my opinion, the
best result."

No you asshole.. that's how you Democrats think.. always in terms of political fallout first. There is no decision... there is no calculating political risks.. there is only : What is best for this country and what is the chance the mission can succeed. Period.

Oh.. and Bubba - you fail to mention you had Bin Laden nailed more than once, but you chose not to make the call.. pussy.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2012 12:24 PM (f9c2L)

83
Osama bin Laden is dead.

So. Fucking. What.


Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2012 12:24 PM (G/zuv)

84 Oromney. Robama. Not one pussy hair of discernable difference.

You are a profoundly silly person.

Posted by: toby928© at April 27, 2012 12:25 PM (NG097)

85 The Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure stutters at a sixth grade level:"Obama addressed the coeds at the Universities of North Carolina, Colorado, and Iowa at a sixth grade reading level, according to Flesch-Kincaid reading comprehension difficulty tests conducted by the Washington Free Beacon."
-------
He uses a technique known as Eriksonian hypnosis and Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP). Anyone with the time to peruse the phycological explanation can read all about it here:
http://scoamf.us/sW
Or just mute him anytime he speaks.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 27, 2012 12:25 PM (UpwlP)

86 We are paying the SEAL team anyway, whether they fight or not. OK, bump up for combat pay, but still...

Posted by: navybrat at April 27, 2012 12:25 PM (JkMci)

87 He's not Mr. Cool.

He's the Cooler. As in the William Macy film.

Posted by: Phelps at April 27, 2012 12:25 PM (A1EwI)

88 Obama sucks cock. A retarded ant eater with syphilis would have given the go ahead to kill Bin Ladin if it was told where he was while playin golf.

Posted by: Mr Pink at April 27, 2012 12:25 PM (yYVPU)

89 >>Foreign policy in the post-cold war era is an afterthought.

I disagree. In the era of global economies, and global pretty much everything from resource management and environmental movements to drug trafficking and illegal immigration, foreign policy is very important. It's just different than it was.

Moreover, Romney has stumbled a few times giving the Dems an opening to suggest that he's out of touch and behind the times -- stuck in the Cold War mentality -- so there's a vulnerability there. The incumbent POTUS always has an edge, especially when he's going against someone with no foreign policy experience.

Before Rubio's wheels started coming off, I could see an argument for him as VP, even in the FP arena, because his personal history and the state he's from both give him some cred. I liked that he represents a new type of foreign policy angle focused on our side of the Atlantic. But his speech was not good and the DREAM Act stuff is also worrisome.

So, again, why not Bolton? I'm reading some folks touting Gen. Petreus, but to me he's too much of a political wild card and too one-dimensional.

Posted by: Y-not at April 27, 2012 12:25 PM (5H6zj)

90 the president supports egyptians fucking dead people........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at April 27, 2012 12:26 PM (7jxyE)

91 90
the president supports egyptians fucking dead people........

---------------


My mom's been fucking a dead guy for years. I call him "Dad."

Posted by: Randal Graves at April 27, 2012 12:26 PM (kFnmp)

92 killing him wasn't that gutsy. anyone, with the possible exception of BHO himself would have made that call. nuking him would have been gutsy.

Posted by: X at April 27, 2012 12:27 PM (KHo8t)

93
I completely disagree.

As do I. Nowadays, we have a global jihad movement compounding the typical aggression from Russia and China. We also know Russia is helping Iran. Teh SCOAMF and his Merry Band of Marxists left that part out.

For E. J. Dionne, this means "in addition to," not "in place of."

Good Lord, people on the left are idiots...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 27, 2012 12:28 PM (d0Tfm)

94 Posted by: UGAdawg at April 27, 2012 12:22 PM (NAlbk



Are you in Savannah, too? I'm wondering if Barky and Mooch have left yet, and I'm afraid to turn on the tee vee in case I'm subjected to the two of them acting "concerned" with the troops at Ft. Stewart. I might have to break something.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2012 12:28 PM (UOM48)

95
Do you know what a non-gutsy call is?

A non-gutsty call is ordering the body of Osama to be given a "proper Muslim" burial.

Obama is a pussy who is so afraid of offending "peaceful" Muslims, he ordered our military to treat the Osama's corpse with respect. That is outrageous.



Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2012 12:28 PM (G/zuv)

96 killing him wasn't that gutsy. anyone, with the possible exception of
BHO himself would have made that call. nuking him would have been gutsy.


The EPA would have crucified everyone in a one mile radius.

Posted by: toby928© at April 27, 2012 12:28 PM (NG097)

97 Whatevah, Barky. "Obama 2012: A Dog In Every Pot" ~snicker~

Posted by: eureka! at April 27, 2012 12:28 PM (81yf8)

98 the president supports reducing the age of marriage to 14 yrs old....how old is malia?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at April 27, 2012 12:28 PM (7jxyE)

99 The timing, operational decision making and control are in Admiral
McRaven’s hands. The approval is provided on the risk profile presented
to the President. Any additional risks are to be brought back to the
President for his consideration. The direction is to go in and get bin
Laden and if he is not there, to get out. Those instructions were
conveyed to Admiral McRaven at approximately 10:45 am.





Obviously, McRaven is a racist who is trying to take all of the credit for Barry's super duper gutsy call. Occupy McRaven or Justice for Barry or whatever the current protest is

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2012 12:28 PM (1Jaio)

100 I mentioned this the other day, a guy told me he likes Obama because he killed Osama. That was it! That's his list of Obama accomplishments, and why he likes him.

I'm sure Team Obama knows there are millions of, I'm not even going to call them "low information" voters, but millions of complete and utter idiots who will be voting. That's who he needs to target. The ones who love him for personally swimming to Pakistan and shiving Osama as he slept, and the ones who are still waiting for Barack to pay their mortgage and student loans and... need I go on?

So how many words does it take to explain each of these things? Answer: more than most people will read or hear. Thankfully though, lots of those idiots won't vote.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2012 12:29 PM (TOk1P)

101
More U.S. troops died in Afghanistan under my watch than Bush but it's still Bush's fault.

Posted by: President SCOAMF at April 27, 2012 12:30 PM (eXigD)

102 Perhaps we should go with the "Romney isn't a warmonger" theme

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 27, 2012 12:30 PM (e8kgV)

103 So, again, why not Bolton? I'm reading some folks
touting Gen. Petreus, but to me he's too much of a political wild card
and too one-dimensional.Posted by: Y-not


Bolton is a wonk not a candidate. If he couldn't even be a slightly attractive senatorial candidate, not a chance he gets a look for veep.

Besides, name one domestic issue that Bolton has talked about (without looking it up, of course.)

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 27, 2012 12:31 PM (ebPtk)

104 Perhaps we should go with the "Romney isn't a warmonger" theme


Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 27, 2012 12:30 PM (e8kgV)


Smart diplomacy?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2012 12:31 PM (1Jaio)

105 My idea for a bumper sticker:

Don't eat me bro! (cute pic of dog, with the "o" in "bro" Barry's silly campaign symbol)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 27, 2012 12:32 PM (UOM48)

106 the president supports egyptians fucking dead people........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at April 27, 2012 12:26 PM (7jxyE)


Meh. So do I. It keeps them from trying to fuck over any civilized living people. Egyptians should all be busy in the graveyard meat market.

This is a culture that is fine with honor killing - a cute, lovable daughter has a "wrong" guy look at her ... so she must be strangled to death with the father's bare hands just before he calmly sits down to a nice dinner with what's left of the family. ANd everyone goes on as if nothing has happened.

This is the sick, depraved culture that is the very foundation in the muzzie world. A little necrophilia is actually a move towards normal for these savages.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 27, 2012 12:32 PM (X3lox)

107 You want gutsy? Trying cooly walking up to a two-foot putt on the twelfth hole knowing that if you can't convince your partner to give it to you you might miss something good on TV at the White House.

Posted by: barky o'tool at April 27, 2012 12:32 PM (FcR7P)

108 Don't eat me braise me bro!

Posted by: garrett at April 27, 2012 12:33 PM (VwrfQ)

109 @103
I know he started out at the American Enterprise Institute and that in his diplomatic capacity he covered a much broader scope than Petreus did. He also was outspoken politically (conservative) in a way that Petreus cannot be. To me, any guy straight out of the military would be far too risky and could wind up being like another Colin Powell.

Posted by: Y-not at April 27, 2012 12:34 PM (5H6zj)

110 So how many words does it take to explain each of
these things? Answer: more than most people will read or hear.
Thankfully though, lots of those idiots won't vote.

Posted by: BurtTC
........
It IS pretty frustrating talking to these idiots.

And you are correct.. Obama will concentrate on this stupid shit for the next six months.. student loans, $4 billion in Buffett rule revenues, war on women, etc. etc. instead of even addressing the major problems of jobs and the economy.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2012 12:34 PM (f9c2L)

111
brb, wrappin Osama's body in fresh linen

Posted by: lolobama at April 27, 2012 12:34 PM (G/zuv)

112
Mr 2.2%.

Posted by: lolobama at April 27, 2012 12:34 PM (G/zuv)

113 @69: yeah, my bad.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 27, 2012 12:35 PM (niZvt)

114 Why isn't Mullah Omhar feeding the worms? Why hasn't Gutsy Call offed his flea bitten ass, anyway? Or are we negotiating with the hairy bastard?

Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2012 12:35 PM (OlN4e)

115 Ace sucks greg's cock

A real gutsy call.  Enjoy some kobe beef in the Oval Office and leave the rest to the SEALs.  Use the MSM to      promote your "quiet courage."  Keith Olbermann's "Special Comments" are going to start to seem sane compared to this narrative that the network newscasts are going to try to sell.  

Good thing that the GOP settled relatively early on Romney.  Eight months is a long time to get a counter-narrative going. Soon enough the public will realize that it's been saddled with nothing but a slicker Jimmy Carter.  Outside of the progressive bubble, the attempt to cast Obama as Reagan will be viewed as crazy.    

Krazy.


Posted by: Romney Romantic at April 27, 2012 12:36 PM (Hq+Ak)

116 So, again, why not Bolton? I'm reading some folks

touting Gen. Petreus, but to me he's too much of a political wild card
and too one-dimensional.

Posted by: Y-not


Petraeus is an ass.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 27, 2012 12:36 PM (X3lox)

117 Bolton for Secretary of State...watch the libs heads explode!

Posted by: Hedgehog at April 27, 2012 12:36 PM (3jGS1)

118 "You're absolutely right that John McCain has
not talked about my Muslim faith."

268 Days Until We Evict the SCOAMF

Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 27, 2012 12:36 PM (NaBqG)

119 It's not worth moving heaven and earth and spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person.

Even if that's exactly all he said, how do you conclude "after heaven and earth's been moved and the dollars spent and Osama's found, he'd not follow through with the project"?

If he's all concerned about the balance sheet, he'd damn well finish the job and not have the expense of arriving to that point go to waste!

Posted by: sistrum at April 27, 2012 12:36 PM (AyryN)

120 The ones who love him for personally swimming to
Pakistan and shiving Osama as he slept, and the ones who are still
waiting for Barack to pay their mortgage and student loans and... need I
go on?



So how many words does it take to explain each of these things?
Answer: more than most people will read or hear. Thankfully though, lots
of those idiots won't vote.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 27, 2012 12:29 PM (TOk1P)



Wait a minute now that's not what happen. Bin Laden had a 100,000 man army that Barry single handedly fought his way through. Then after a Luke/Darth Vader light saber fight with bin Laden, (Barry after rescuing all of the womyn, minorities and members of the LGBT community) decided that bin Laden was a noble enemy and was to spare him but a white racist shot bin Laden in the back and Barry mercifully put him out of his misery. Then Barry fucked the corpse for the next 6 hours and then ate his dog before he left.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2012 12:36 PM (1Jaio)

121 The people who really care about the killing of Bin Laden already realize that any president wouldve made this "gutsy" call. He can win no votes from this, because anyone that may be leaning toward voting for Obama is probably in disagreement with bin ladens "murder" anyway.

Posted by: The Drizzle at April 27, 2012 12:37 PM (ysCLj)

122
This is an example of one of those times where the Right needs to pony up and run a counter ad that gives the entire quote, in context, and that ends by calling the duffus-in-chief a filthy liar. Filthy Liar. The part of MR's reply that groups the Brotherhood in with the other terrorist biggies, given current events and the tacit acceptance of the Brotherhood by the oh-my-god-what-a-mess administration, should be highlighted.

Posted by: And Irresolute at April 27, 2012 12:37 PM (RC3M9)

123 Perhaps a more skilled team than Obama/Clinton might have been able to get Pakistan to turn him over thereby avoiding the whole scene. Now that would be good foreign policy.

Posted by: jeanie5 at April 27, 2012 12:38 PM (e9geu)

124 If it took sixteen hours to- against his instincts- make his "gutsy call", he's going to need sixteen years to- against his instincts- do something positive about the economy.

Posted by: t-bird at April 27, 2012 12:38 PM (FcR7P)

125 Perhaps Romney should go with the "Romney isn't a warmonger" theme.

Pumped up with a "Obama continued 'Bush's War," it should appeal very well to women.

Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals, RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 27, 2012 12:38 PM (e8kgV)

126 "I ate a dog".

But Obama quoted himself out of context, so it's all good...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 27, 2012 12:38 PM (wtvvX)

127 Uh, I thought Romney was a cruel heartless psychopath that kills dogs but I guess he is also a softie that would pardon a mass killer. Or maybe Obama is saying their is honor among psychopaths?

Posted by: robtron at April 27, 2012 12:38 PM (gsy5B)

128 I'm sure Team Obama knows there are millions of, I'm not even going to
call them "low information" voters, but millions of complete and utter
idiots who will be voting.


Of course they know. That's the Democrat Base.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 27, 2012 12:39 PM (NaBqG)

129 Oops, try to ignore the first sentence of #115 -- it's what the first letter of the first and last words of each sentence spell out when strung together. Meant to delete it before I posted.

Seriously, just pretend it isn't there.

Posted by: Romney Romantic at April 27, 2012 12:39 PM (Hq+Ak)

130 If nation building is required if we use the troops, we really can't afford to use them. Sometimes I wonder if that isn't one of the statist's goals: make the military to expensive to use.

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 27, 2012 12:39 PM (NVu2l)

131 He also was outspoken politically (conservative) in
a way that Petreus cannot be. To me, any guy straight out of the
military would be far too risky and could wind up being like another
Colin Powell.Posted by: Y-not


I agree that Petraeus is an unknown and shouldn't be an option, but Bolton is cold pizza and unknown on domestic issues.

Any idea on his 2nd Amendment position? Non-defense spending? Interest rates? Anything?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 27, 2012 12:39 PM (ebPtk)

132 Where is that?

CoolCzech @11.

Like I said- typo. I figured we should call it out as such, however.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 27, 2012 12:21 PM (8y9MW)

**************

Oh, heh. I even did a search of the thread for it and missed it. I thought it might have been at one of the links.

Posted by: tasker at April 27, 2012 12:40 PM (r2PLg)

133 Things that will never happen, for good or ill:

Wingman: "Mr. Morgenholz, the blond chick from the hit TV show "Revenge" is in your bedroom under the covers, apparently nude. We can't see her hands, but intercepts indicate she's moaning 'Morgie, Morgie'...

Herr Morgenholz: "Well, do you think we should take the shot?"

Wingman: "Yes, sir."

Herr Morgenholz: "Let me sleep on it."

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 27, 2012 12:41 PM (zlvkY)

134 I really think average joe needs to go in all his various forms.

Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2012 12:41 PM (OlN4e)

135 Funny how your attitude about trophies changes when the head's to be mounted on your wall.

Posted by: slarrow at April 27, 2012 12:41 PM (aJUQM)

136
I particularly like that the downside wasn't that OBL would be alive if the mission failed, it's that BHO would be on the hook for it.

It's always super gutsy to wonder, "hey, how does this affect me?"


Posted by: MJ at April 27, 2012 12:41 PM (/x4oj)

137 "(I do not want to use our troops to nation build, ever)"

Agreed: troops are for nation destroying, not building...

Posted by: Affenhauer at April 27, 2012 12:42 PM (7QZ6R)

138 Yup, Romney and Obama are exactly the same. Just look at all the companies Obama started, managed or ran while Romney was doing cocaine and passing out "Free Mumia" pamphlets at the bus station. Two peas in a pod.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 27, 2012 12:43 PM (hiMsy)

139 Focusing the nations attention upon the "millions" of our enemies, a number that might un-brain-dead a quantity of our cohabiters here, could be a good thing. We really need to push up the scarymeter settings and get people back into a .. ahhem ... New York state of mind.

Posted by: And Irresolute at April 27, 2012 12:43 PM (RC3M9)

140 Drudge has a headline up: "Woman Kills Man by Squeezing His Testicles".

Anyone seen Obama lately?

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 27, 2012 12:44 PM (wtvvX)

141 Any idea on his 2nd Amendment position? Non-defense spending? Interest rates? Anything?
-----
He'd be running for VP, not POTUS. But what I do know, without looking, is that he's been very critical of this administration and wannabes like Huntsman. And I do know that he was a popular name floated by conservatives at the start of primary season.

Moreover, I don't know anything off the top of my head about Portman or McDonnell or Martinez or most of the others floated as VP picks. Basically, with VP names you have their job descriptions/titles (governor, ambassador, senator, whatever) and maybe a sense for what type of politician they are.

People seem to be pushing governors, but what does a governor add to Romney's ticket?

Posted by: Y-not at April 27, 2012 12:45 PM (5H6zj)

142 Herr! Wassup freakshow?

Posted by: MJ at April 27, 2012 12:46 PM (/x4oj)

143 >>Yup, Romney and Obama are exactly the same. Just look at all the
companies Obama started, managed or ran while Romney was doing cocaine
and passing out "Free Mumia" pamphlets at the bus station. Two peas in a
pod.

In fairness, "Mormon" and "Muslim" both start with "M".

And if you've ever tried to buy a pack of smokes in Salt Lake City, you'd agree that it is a bit like a foreign country.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 27, 2012 12:47 PM (zlvkY)

144 >>Herr! Wassup freakshow?

Just been busy paying for the laser treatments to get the sleeves removed from the baby. You?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 27, 2012 12:48 PM (zlvkY)

145 CALABASAS (CBS)— Former Miss USA and Playboy model
Shanna Moakler says one of her dogs is missing and another is under
veterinary care after the animals were attacked by a hawk at her
Calabasas home.




So Barry is into hawking

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2012 12:48 PM (1Jaio)

146 Like I said earlier, I've got a friend from the ME who is making me doubt OBL is dead.
I asked him about the notion that they would somehow make a shrine of his place of death and that's why we had to bury him at sea.
He said that doesn't happen, there aren't shrines to dead martyrs over there.
He also pointed out we killed that HVT in Yemen with a drone shortly after the OBL thing and that we'd been after him for 14 years. And suddenly we found out where he was?
Add in the wikileaks about how he wasn't buried at sea and hmmm?

Posted by: jimmuy at April 27, 2012 12:49 PM (kSaUf)

147
I love the smell of desperation as much as Barry loves the smell of a simmering dog.

Posted by: Tough,Tougher,Crunchy at April 27, 2012 12:49 PM (c3mby)

148 Irag, Afghanistan....Bring our boys home from the sandbox, derail the Muslim money train sucking the life out of our budget....Green sand waiting for all to enjoy (including Pakistan)...be sure to buy those green sand, glowing color coordinated Burqa's, if they want to push the issue...kaboom.

How's that for foreign policy?

Posted by: NukeBoy at April 27, 2012 12:50 PM (zeSI6)

149 Agreed: troops are for nation destroying, not building...

"Nation Building" is actually a sticky topic for me. I think the best answer is that there is no absolute answer. For instance: I think it was folly (at best) to try it in Afghanistan. Iraq, however, has had somewhat better results. Iraq is also, IMO, more important- as it is more strategically important in the ME than is Afghanistan.

So I think that "Nation Building" is something we should do rarely, and when we do it we have to make sure we're doing it right- but to say it should "never" be done is too absolute a statement for me.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 27, 2012 12:53 PM (8y9MW)

150 I asked him about the notion that they would somehow make a shrine of
his place of death and that's why we had to bury him at sea.


What was amazing was that no military resigned after that total fiasco and the antagonism of America by pointing out that bin laden was given all muslim burial honors, like Barky learned growing up a muzzie in the largest muzzie nation in the world. That was about as culturally offensive as it gets to America ... what's left of America.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 27, 2012 12:53 PM (X3lox)

151 That's pretty cute. Of course, it's going to back fire for zero-grow-O worse than the dog eating thing, because hey SCOAMF eats dogs and also because SCOAMF was a miserable failure of anti-war peacenik, blame-America first asshole who is sure to have some sort of quote in one of his books about how he personally identifies with Bin Laden. Oh, plus, his mentor bombed the Pentagon.

Posted by: joeindc44 says hide your dogs, SCOMDEF's in town at April 27, 2012 12:55 PM (QxSug)

152 I would have gone there myself and ripped his heart out with my bare hands.

Toss it into an oxygenated saline tank.
"You will work for me now!"

Posted by: Another Darth Cheney at April 27, 2012 12:58 PM (NQ/V9)

153 ______________________________

Ace,

Why would the Obama campaign be playing their biggest Trump Card now??? This early in the game?

Why now?

Their internals have got to be God Awful. They have to feel like this election might already be on the verge of slipping away from them. Fear that if Romney breaks out into a consistent and decisive early lead, that it's all over.

Otherwise it makes no sense to highlight Obama's only untarnished and by far biggest accomplishment (getting Bin Laden) this early in the game.

They must be terrified.

Question: But will it work?









Posted by: _Dave_ at April 27, 2012 12:59 PM (2amQY)

154 For the, "I'm going to give 15 minutes of consideration to my vote, two days before the election and use information from commercials and the MSM to do it" crowd, the ad is devastatingly effective, particularly the "obama/biden truth team" stuff.

Then again, when you have the talent of hollywood at your disposal, probably gratis, of course the ad will be devastatingly good. Romney needs to up his game, immediately. He need to hit back on this ad in particular. The dems have had the luxury of studying all of romney's ads against his opponents, all these months and his style, so to speak, it's time for romney to change the game and the style and to anticipate. Not sure he can do that.

Perhaps this is a spot for Newt? or Rick Perry? As part of a larger Republican Team? Pre demonstrating how effectively and smoothly a romney administration would run in contrast to the current crowd?

Posted by: . at April 27, 2012 01:08 PM (oZfic)

155 Obama's a DIC (Demonizer in Chief)
You saw it here first.

Posted by: sleepy-beans at April 27, 2012 01:09 PM (XpQph)

156 The most difficult decision Bubba Clinton ever made was whether to use a Cohiba Robusto or a Cohiba Espléndido.

Posted by: Fritz at April 27, 2012 01:09 PM (/ZZCn)

157 I missed most of the thread but did anyone point out how ironic it is for Bubba to be in the ad? FFS he couldnt make the call twice to make OSL a KIA, and once Sudan offered him on a silver platter as far back as 98'. Stupid Jackholes...

Posted by: Joe in TX at April 27, 2012 01:09 PM (pjusE)

158 Posted by: Joe in TX at April 27, 2012 01:09 PM (pjusE)

Clinton is still liked by the vast majority of Americans. It was a good call to use him. Similarly Romney needs to use someone with similar gravitas to explain what Ace explained in the post. And maybe aim it at "the dems" so you can include the times bill fell down on the job.


Posted by: . at April 27, 2012 01:14 PM (oZfic)

159 How does Bill know what went on? Has Hillary been blabbing?

Posted by: toby928© at April 27, 2012 01:32 PM (NG097)

160 NPR if it had been Bush:

"Did killing bin Laden actually hurt the War on Terror?"

Posted by: doug at April 27, 2012 01:35 PM (gbtBj)

161
This is my favorite Dem talking point.

“BUT!” They say, “He killed Bin Laden! That was a very tough decision to make!”

So let’s think this one out. Obama enters office and someone says to
him “sir, our sources and our military are still looking for Bin Laden.
Do you want them to continue doing that now that you are president?”

And Obama strokes his chin and furrows his brows and thinks real
hard. “Ok. Yea. Keep doing that.” Whew. It was a tough decision, but
that’s what Obama is good at! Making decisions!

Some time later, someone comes to Obama and he says “Sir! We know
where Bin Laden is! What should we do!?” MAN! ANOTHER decision to make!
Thank God we elected a man who knows how to decide on those decisions!

So once again, Obama furrows his brows, he looks around the room and
asks “can we… arrest him?” And everyone in the room looks at their toes
and mumbles “well… he did kill all those people…”

Oooh… this is a really tough decision. Don’t want to look weak. Which means we gotta act strong. Hmm… Time to stroke the chin.

So Obama does. He strokes his chin.

Then he looks up! “Should we… maybe… shoot him?”

Everyone’s eyes brighten! “Yes! That’s what we’ll do! We’ll shoot him!”

And the people rejoiced, for they had a president who was able, nay, able and willing, to make the Tough Decisions.

I’ll bet Romney couldn’t have done that.

Posted by: Book at April 27, 2012 01:40 PM (1H+/l)

162 "the president supports egyptians fucking dead people........"

"I miss Reggie."

Posted by: Jypsea Rose~AoSHQ Graveyard Shift at April 27, 2012 01:45 PM (iKSAz)

163 ______________________________

Well done at comment #161.



Posted by: _Dave_ at April 27, 2012 01:49 PM (2amQY)

164 Just a reminder, slow Joe Biden was against it "It got to me," Mr Biden told House Democrats at a gathering Maryland. "I said 'You know, I didn't know we have so many economists around the table. We owe the man a direct answer. Mr President my suggestion is don't go."

Posted by: SnowSoul at April 27, 2012 01:51 PM (QjWDj)

165 @163 _Dave_

It's like... I was in the room!

One of these days I'll let y'all know how the whole "Romney puts dogs on cars" strategy was born.

Posted by: Book at April 27, 2012 02:12 PM (1H+/l)

166 And the only fucking reason it even gets characterized as a "gutsy call" is that there was some doubt as to whether the JEF would have made the call.
It's not "gutsy" unless there's some chance he would have nixed the idea.

Posted by: jimmuy at April 27, 2012 02:25 PM (kSaUf)

167 I'm confused. Matt Lewis actually contributed something useful?!?

Posted by: Former Townhall reader at April 27, 2012 02:46 PM (J0GbY)

168 Well now, if gutsy calls are what its all about, the Romney campaign ought to run an ad showing all of Senator Obama's pronouncments that the Iraq surge will not work. There must be dozens of them.

Posted by: Ed at April 27, 2012 03:21 PM (7U7hA)

169 Today's YAHOO survey:



Could Michelle Obama make a good president?



Yes, she's a natural leader. 30%

No, she doesn't have what it takes. 70%

Maybe prezident present is just to tire and doesn't really want another term.

Posted by: Theresa, MSgt (Ret) at April 27, 2012 03:57 PM (D1vrL)

170 "to tired". Sorry, just washed my hands, can't do a thing with them.

Posted by: Theresa, MSgt (Ret) at April 27, 2012 03:58 PM (D1vrL)

171 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2012 04:01 PM (7W3wI)

172 I really don't think the Osama death announcement really is that big a deal to most people. In 2004 maybe, or even 2006 but these days? He was a total non factor. And I agree, one man isn't worth hundreds of billions of dollars and all that time and effort. But that has nothing to do with how you respond WHEN YOU FIND HIM, which is what this whole "gutsy call" idiocy is about.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2012 04:11 PM (r4wIV)

173 The response on this from the Romney campaign needs to be merciless mocking.

"Really ? You're kidding, right ? We all know that efforts to find Bin Laden were ongoing from the Bush administration and that no leader would have decided against the raid. The idea that Prezident Dipshit is the only stone cold killer with the leadership to approve this plan is LAUGHABLE."

Then cue the actual laughing. Like, "Oh, that question was serious. I'm sorry"

Is there really a single human in this country dumb enough to fall for this line ?

Posted by: deadrody at April 27, 2012 04:44 PM (eOvu0)

174 The Romney campaign's rejoinder to the Bin Laden ad slices like a scalpel, and hits like a fucking Predator!

Posted by: sherlock at April 27, 2012 04:54 PM (s0hlt)

175 If you want to be honest about it we are now in a state of halfway war with Pakistan over Bin Laden. I wouldn't blame Obama for this, and my position is "bring it" since you have to fight the people who are going to try and fight you and it's bets not to do it on their terms.

But I COULD see someone making a case that killing Bin laden the way he did made shit way worse than it was.

I don't agree with it at all, but I can see the case being made in a credible way that killing in Laden was a huge fuck up that felt REALLY good but caused more net harm than good to our foreign policy.

Posted by: Cackfinger at April 27, 2012 05:14 PM (CCHli)

176 used TP after dropping a deuce this morning #GutsyCall

Posted by: X at April 27, 2012 05:42 PM (KHo8t)

177 This is just one of several misquotations by the media and Obama campaign in the last couple days.Buzzfeed recently misquoted Ann Romney: Buzzfeed and the other liberals
quoted: "I love the fact that there are women out there who don’t have a
choice and they must go to work and they still have to raise the kids."



Here
is what Ann actually said: "My hats off to the men in this room too
that are raising kids — I love that, and I love the fact that there are
also women out there that don’t have a choice and they must go to work
and they still have to raise the kids."



The first half of the
sentence was chopped away and "also" was omitted. You remember how the
media jumped on that and perpetuated the lie.



Ezra Klein at the
Washington Post also misquoted Romney this week: "“While I was
governor,” Romney said, “85 percent of the people on a form of welfare
assistance in my state had no work requirement. I wanted to increase the
work requirement. I said, for instance, that even if you have a child
two years of age, you need to go to work. And people said, ‘Well that’s
heartless,’ and I said ‘No, no, I’m willing to spend more giving daycare
to allow those parents to go back to work. It’ll cost the state more
providing that daycare, but I want the individuals to have the dignity
of work.’”



Here's
what Romney actually said: ""I also like the idea that people who are
receiving assistance, welfare assistance, have a responsibility of
working. In my state we made good progress in that regard, following the
days of the welfare reform act. But in my state while I was governor,
85 percent of the people..."



WaPo completely removed the first
part of the sentence and inserted a period near the end, making the
second part of that sentence its own new sentence. WaPo then falsely
claimed that 'by “individuals,” Romney means “mothers.”'

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