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I really wish the old guy in the video below the fold was still with us. We need him as much or more now than we did in the 80s, when his ideas were last put in practice to beat back the statists. Oh, and happy earth day. I'll be outside burning tires. UPDATE: Our own Dri's Challenger Hemi is now featured in Iowahawk's 7th Annual Earth Week Cruise-In.Comments
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Good Morning Morons. Today is Sunday, April 22, 2012. On this day in 1864 Congress authorized the term "In God We Trust" for U.S. money. The next day a smart alec added "all others pay cash".
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 07:57 AM (YdQQY)
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State Affirmative Action policies up before the Supreme Court yet again in a case from TX. These policies are plainly unconstitutional and plainly against the civil rights act of 1964 which state emphatically that race, religion, creed, and national origin shall not be used as a basis for ANY government policy. It is time we followed the law.
http://is.gd/Sm4hdA
http://is.gd/Sm4hdA
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 07:57 AM (YdQQY)
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Pentagon tests 13,000 MPH drone over Pacific. Not mentioned is also project Aurora which flies z manned hypersonic aircraft which replaced the SR-71.
http://is.gd/EHLxoS
http://is.gd/EHLxoS
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 07:58 AM (YdQQY)
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We did a lott of speculating about VP picks yesterday. Here we see that Rubio will be stumping PA with Romney next week.
http://is.gd/1MyIF3
http://is.gd/1MyIF3
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 07:58 AM (YdQQY)
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On the frivolous lawsuit side we see union suing Indiana claiming working with non-union workers is slavery. I want to know what judge has allowed this POS to proceed.
http://is.gd/qgYmYm
http://is.gd/qgYmYm
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 07:58 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 07:59 AM (YdQQY)
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Something we already knew. Democrat States got most of the stimulus money. And not reported ever is there really wasn't much stimulus there to begin with. The overwhelming bulk of the money went to pet Democrat socialist projects which is why it didn't make one iota of difference.
http://is.gd/MLhB8c
http://is.gd/MLhB8c
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 07:59 AM (YdQQY)
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Townhall editor writes book on Obama's Fast and Furious operation to attempt gun control.
http://is.gd/cVnqRN
http://is.gd/cVnqRN
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 07:59 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:00 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:00 AM (YdQQY)
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That's it for the news. Its Sunday, not much out there today.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:00 AM (YdQQY)
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Burning tires? Skeeter problems?
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:02 AM (YdQQY)
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FoxB talkinfg about stupid new program from labor department to pay workers unemployment while they "try out" a new job.
WTF do they call for this shit. Unemployment is a State function. And where do they get off starting new programs w/o Congress.
WTF do they call for this shit. Unemployment is a State function. And where do they get off starting new programs w/o Congress.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:04 AM (YdQQY)
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In honor of Earth Day, I spread dangerously unsustainable weed killer all over my front yard yesterday.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 08:10 AM (niZvt)
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Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: steevy at April 22, 2012 08:10 AM (7W3wI)
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I have a couple of tires that washed up along the river this spring. No skeeter problem though in the slave state of Indiana. (rolls eyes).
Survived the pizza party for a group of 12-year olds. 14 hand-made pizzas and 8 episodes of 'My Little Pony' later.
Survived the pizza party for a group of 12-year olds. 14 hand-made pizzas and 8 episodes of 'My Little Pony' later.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 22, 2012 08:11 AM (NWqcl)
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Just in time for Earf Day, the UN wants to transform the world into a green utopia;http://tinyurl.com/6m6v8hw
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 22, 2012 08:15 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Radish A. Radish at April 22, 2012 08:18 AM (enMrE)
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In honor of Earth Day, I spread dangerously unsustainable weed killer all over my front yard yesterday.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 08:10 AM (niZvt)
If I killed all the weeds in my front yard I would have nothing but dirt. I put down some weed killer about 5 years ago and it killed my damn grass which had been in good shape.
Meanwhile during a drought the county water system which I signed onto and pulled up my deep well raised the rates and included a hefty punishment fee if you used over a certain amount of water. Of course when the drought was over they did not return to the old prices.
So my front yard has never recovered.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 08:10 AM (niZvt)
If I killed all the weeds in my front yard I would have nothing but dirt. I put down some weed killer about 5 years ago and it killed my damn grass which had been in good shape.
Meanwhile during a drought the county water system which I signed onto and pulled up my deep well raised the rates and included a hefty punishment fee if you used over a certain amount of water. Of course when the drought was over they did not return to the old prices.
So my front yard has never recovered.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:20 AM (YdQQY)
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Everyday is earth day to me.
Posted by: Malaria, the Liberal-protected disease. at April 22, 2012 08:20 AM (Vg4Vv)
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Survived the pizza party for a group of 12-year olds. 14 hand-made pizzas and 8 episodes of 'My Little Pony' later.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 22, 2012 08:11 AM (NWqcl)
LOL, my next door neighbor had a b'day party for her little girl yesterday. Someone gave her a baby rabbit and she had to bring it over to show me. They were all going to camp outlast night in the back yard in a tent.
It has rained all night long so I expect they all went inside.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 22, 2012 08:11 AM (NWqcl)
LOL, my next door neighbor had a b'day party for her little girl yesterday. Someone gave her a baby rabbit and she had to bring it over to show me. They were all going to camp outlast night in the back yard in a tent.
It has rained all night long so I expect they all went inside.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:22 AM (YdQQY)
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Getting old suck. My achilles heel is my achilles heel.
Milton Friedman is buried in the same cemetery as my folks. And Andy Kaufman.
Who knew?
Milton Friedman is buried in the same cemetery as my folks. And Andy Kaufman.
Who knew?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 22, 2012 08:23 AM (Af3Wg)
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Skeeters? Oh, hell no.
I just bought some old tires to burn for earf day.
Speaking of which, don't forget to check Iowahawk's place for some beautiful CO2-producing machinery.
I just bought some old tires to burn for earf day.
Speaking of which, don't forget to check Iowahawk's place for some beautiful CO2-producing machinery.
Posted by: Andy at April 22, 2012 08:25 AM (XG+Mn)
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I salted my pool for erf day!
Actually converted to salt water.. waaaay less chemicals. Easier on eyes and skin.
Actually converted to salt water.. waaaay less chemicals. Easier on eyes and skin.
Posted by: sickinmass at April 22, 2012 08:26 AM (bcNec)
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LOL, every time I think about burning tires it reminds me of the good old days when I was young. We used to go down to the river fishing for cat fish at night. We would take an old tire to burn to keep the skeeters away.
At that time 6-12 (deet) came in a tiny bottle that cost an arm and a leg. Old tires were free.
At that time 6-12 (deet) came in a tiny bottle that cost an arm and a leg. Old tires were free.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:28 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: sTevo at April 22, 2012 08:29 AM (VMcEw)
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 08:31 AM (NG097)
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Hey Vic, my Pappa told me that Demint is term-limiting himself out of the Senate. If true, that makes me sad.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 08:32 AM (NG097)
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Thank you, Andy. Good interview, good men.
Posted by: m at April 22, 2012 08:33 AM (9z9wm)
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Since Earth Day is in reality a Quasi-Religious Holiday for the Spiritually Deprived (i.e., for Western Christians that have shed their Chrisianity, and are desperate to find something, even an inanimate object like a giant pile of rocks and dirt called a planet, they can worship as a divine parent ("Mother Earth" fits in neatly with Feminism, to boot)... I feel free to bring up a bit of metaphysical commentary.
I'm white enough to buy an occassional CD at Starbucks; this time I bought a lovely collection entitled "Dinner for Two." Good eclectic blend of modern grown up pop (not the kind teens will like, and therefore not well known) and classic pop like Nat King Cole.
One song caught my attention: a tune called "Beneath an Orange Sky," by Alexi Murdoch. Pleasant enough tune, expressing trite sentiments about how we should all get along with our swarthy Brothers and Sisters (that, typically for the genre, blithely ignores the fact THEY have no interest in getting along with their Flesh-colored Brothers and Sisters).
He sings repeatedly to his Brother and Sister, "In your love lies my salvation... My salvation lies in you love, in your love, in your... Love."
And as I'm listening to this, I'm thinking to myself, "Man, if you're actually counting on the love of your Fellow Man for your salvation - on people like the Jihadies, or the Chinese communists, or all the vile murderous scum bound to pop up in the future - then, Baby, You Are Well and Truly DAMNED.
Hope in the Goodness of Your Fellow Man - or in a pile of Rocks called Earth - is No Hope at All.
Get Thee to a CHURCH, Little Man! (Speaking of which, our Episcopal priest had the courtesy to warn us he will conduct Earth Worship today, so, being a Christian, I'm sitting this Sunday out.)
Get th
I'm white enough to buy an occassional CD at Starbucks; this time I bought a lovely collection entitled "Dinner for Two." Good eclectic blend of modern grown up pop (not the kind teens will like, and therefore not well known) and classic pop like Nat King Cole.
One song caught my attention: a tune called "Beneath an Orange Sky," by Alexi Murdoch. Pleasant enough tune, expressing trite sentiments about how we should all get along with our swarthy Brothers and Sisters (that, typically for the genre, blithely ignores the fact THEY have no interest in getting along with their Flesh-colored Brothers and Sisters).
He sings repeatedly to his Brother and Sister, "In your love lies my salvation... My salvation lies in you love, in your love, in your... Love."
And as I'm listening to this, I'm thinking to myself, "Man, if you're actually counting on the love of your Fellow Man for your salvation - on people like the Jihadies, or the Chinese communists, or all the vile murderous scum bound to pop up in the future - then, Baby, You Are Well and Truly DAMNED.
Hope in the Goodness of Your Fellow Man - or in a pile of Rocks called Earth - is No Hope at All.
Get Thee to a CHURCH, Little Man! (Speaking of which, our Episcopal priest had the courtesy to warn us he will conduct Earth Worship today, so, being a Christian, I'm sitting this Sunday out.)
Get th
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 08:34 AM (niZvt)
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Hey Vic, my Pappa told me that Demint is term-limiting himself out of the Senate. If true, that makes me sad.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 08:32 AM (NG097)
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Yes, he said this would be his last term. I gather he is tired of fighting the damn squishes every year. Said he wants to go back to private life.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 08:32 AM (NG097)
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Yes, he said this would be his last term. I gather he is tired of fighting the damn squishes every year. Said he wants to go back to private life.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:34 AM (YdQQY)
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In honor of Earth Day, I spread dangerously unsustainable weed killer all over my front yard yesterday.
I chainsawed 7 trees down yesterday. That was the fun part. Today, the hauling off.
I chainsawed 7 trees down yesterday. That was the fun part. Today, the hauling off.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 08:35 AM (NG097)
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Said he wants to go back to private life.
I'll bet he runs for governor after Haley. Just getting his scratch now.
I'll bet he runs for governor after Haley. Just getting his scratch now.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 08:37 AM (NG097)
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I chainsawed 7 trees down yesterday. That was the fun part. Today, the hauling off.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 08:35 AM (NG097)
Hauling off hell, ask around for people, wanting fire wood. They will do the hauling off then you can burn the branches left over.
Do it for earf day.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 08:35 AM (NG097)
Hauling off hell, ask around for people, wanting fire wood. They will do the hauling off then you can burn the branches left over.
Do it for earf day.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:38 AM (YdQQY)
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I'll bet he runs for governor after Haley. Just getting his scratch now.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 08:37 AM (NG097)
Probably not. That would be a step down. SC gov really doesn't have much power.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 08:37 AM (NG097)
Probably not. That would be a step down. SC gov really doesn't have much power.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:39 AM (YdQQY)
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In fact it is more likely Haley will take his place in the Senate.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:39 AM (YdQQY)
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In honor of Earth Day, I spread dangerously unsustainable weed killer all over my front yard yesterday.
I went to the Mall and yelled at the flower beds to rise up and shed their shackles of oppression. Got a few positive comments from passersby.
I went to the Mall and yelled at the flower beds to rise up and shed their shackles of oppression. Got a few positive comments from passersby.
Posted by: Panzer Trout at April 22, 2012 08:43 AM (lpWVn)
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We did a lott of speculating about VP picks yesterday. Here we see that Rubio will be stumping PA with Romney next week.
http://is.gd/1MyIF3
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 07:58 AM (YdQQY)
so, what's up with Rubio and the alternative Dream act? Is there a back story that anyone knows that will make that make sense to me?
I see Romney managed to not say anything incendiary when meeting with "hispanics" the other day, according to Breitbart.
http://is.gd/1MyIF3
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 07:58 AM (YdQQY)
so, what's up with Rubio and the alternative Dream act? Is there a back story that anyone knows that will make that make sense to me?
I see Romney managed to not say anything incendiary when meeting with "hispanics" the other day, according to Breitbart.
Posted by: elizabethe at April 22, 2012 08:44 AM (tD860)
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Yeah, CC, I just love the naive who slap those "Coexist" stickers on their Prii.
I'd like to coexist, and I have no desire to harm anyone. But what about those who wish to kill me for no reason? They're out there, they have stated their goals, and are actively implementing them: they want the destruction of me, my family, my country, and my way of life, or failing that, they want to be in control of those things in order to make me bend to their will, which is slavery.
They are the aggressors, not me. All I wish is to be left alone.
Yeah, CC, I just love the naive who slap those "Coexist" stickers on their Prii.
I'd like to coexist, and I have no desire to harm anyone. But what about those who wish to kill me for no reason? They're out there, they have stated their goals, and are actively implementing them: they want the destruction of me, my family, my country, and my way of life, or failing that, they want to be in control of those things in order to make me bend to their will, which is slavery.
They are the aggressors, not me. All I wish is to be left alone.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 22, 2012 08:44 AM (d0Tfm)
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Random thought:
Wouldn't it be nice to get through just one day withought having the term "Erectile Dysfunction" shoved in your face at least a dozen times on TV and the radio from sun up to sundown?
Face it marketers: if someone's left that ain't buying it, it's because they don't need it. Obnoxious saturation marketing won't change that.
Wouldn't it be nice to get through just one day withought having the term "Erectile Dysfunction" shoved in your face at least a dozen times on TV and the radio from sun up to sundown?
Face it marketers: if someone's left that ain't buying it, it's because they don't need it. Obnoxious saturation marketing won't change that.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 08:46 AM (niZvt)
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For Erf Day I have promised that I will start "People for the Ethical Treatment of Vegetables". We will protest farming, especially the heinous crime of culling "Baby Vegetables" from their families and Mother Gaia.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 22, 2012 08:47 AM (jucos)
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Today, Earth Day, the eco-wackos will surely get their day moment in the spotlight and their soundbites on the nightly news. They’ll predict a future even grimmer than they predicted 42 years ago.
And they’ll be just as wrong 42 years from now.
Today, Earth Day, the eco-wackos will surely get their day moment in the spotlight and their soundbites on the nightly news. They’ll predict a future even grimmer than they predicted 42 years ago.
And they’ll be just as wrong 42 years from now.
Posted by: sickinmass at April 22, 2012 08:47 AM (bcNec)
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so, what's up with Rubio and the alternative Dream act? Is there a back
story that anyone knows that will make that make sense to me?
Rubio wants to pander to illegals. His version of the Dream Act is much like the Dems version and is a sure loser for Republicans.
Rubio has slipped a bunch of notches with me.
story that anyone knows that will make that make sense to me?
Rubio wants to pander to illegals. His version of the Dream Act is much like the Dems version and is a sure loser for Republicans.
Rubio has slipped a bunch of notches with me.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:49 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: kdny at April 22, 2012 08:50 AM (MJ76f)
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Back in the day, I commanded a basic training unit. At each graduation ceremony, parents would line up, crying, wanting to hug and thank me for turning their spoiled, worthless boys into men.
Back in the day, I commanded a basic training unit. At each graduation ceremony, parents would line up, crying, wanting to hug and thank me for turning their spoiled, worthless boys into men.
Posted by: CPT Meatball at April 22, 2012 08:50 AM (mxnUd)
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Today is my dad's birthday. Survived colon cancer, a massive heart attack that should have killed him, not to mention Korea. A, global warming believing, recycling Obama voter, who leans towards the crazy, but I love him anyway. He's 78.
Happy Birthday Dad!
Happy Birthday Dad!
Posted by: elizabethe at April 22, 2012 08:51 AM (tD860)
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Eating meat to celevrate Earth Day.
Eating meat to celevrate Earth Day.
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 08:53 AM (lkdo/)
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Posted by: elizabethe at April 22, 2012 08:51 AM (tD860)
Are we talking an old time hardcore Democrat from the South? I have an uncle like that.
Are we talking an old time hardcore Democrat from the South? I have an uncle like that.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:53 AM (YdQQY)
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Sorry about your dad Elizabethe..I still wish him a Happy Birthday (even though he is liberal)
Sorry about your dad Elizabethe..I still wish him a Happy Birthday (even though he is liberal)
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 08:54 AM (lkdo/)
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morning all
for Earth Day I will continue to burn more leaves and wood, and of course apply generous amounts of Roundup
suck it, Gaia
for Earth Day I will continue to burn more leaves and wood, and of course apply generous amounts of Roundup
suck it, Gaia
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 08:55 AM (7FadD)
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Today, Earth Day, the eco-wackos will surely get their day moment in the spotlight and their soundbites on the nightly news. They’ll predict a future even grimmer than they predicted 42 years ago.
And they’ll be just as wrong 42 years from now.
Posted by: sickinmass at April 22, 2012 08:47 AM (bcNec)
Just how many more years can they keep proclaimingJesus is Coming "Climate Apocalypse is Coming in Eight Years" with a straight face?
Today, Earth Day, the eco-wackos will surely get their day moment in the spotlight and their soundbites on the nightly news. They’ll predict a future even grimmer than they predicted 42 years ago.
And they’ll be just as wrong 42 years from now.
Posted by: sickinmass at April 22, 2012 08:47 AM (bcNec)
Just how many more years can they keep proclaiming
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 08:55 AM (niZvt)
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Happy birthday to your dad, elizabethe
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 08:55 AM (7FadD)
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Rubio has slipped a bunch of notches with me.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:49 AM (YdQQY)
why! Does he have no people telling him what he is throwing away with this? Why are politicians so stupid! This is the Dems own personal dream act. A VP nom who supports a dream act and will piss off the most active part of the base. I hope Romney doesn't pick him as VP.
I started to worry about Rubio when he gave that speech on Medicare, where he was like "we need to save this" there were some big government conservative flags in that speech for me.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:49 AM (YdQQY)
why! Does he have no people telling him what he is throwing away with this? Why are politicians so stupid! This is the Dems own personal dream act. A VP nom who supports a dream act and will piss off the most active part of the base. I hope Romney doesn't pick him as VP.
I started to worry about Rubio when he gave that speech on Medicare, where he was like "we need to save this" there were some big government conservative flags in that speech for me.
Posted by: elizabethe at April 22, 2012 08:55 AM (tD860)
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Vegetable Liberation Front! I am designing the beret now. Who's in?
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 22, 2012 08:55 AM (jucos)
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My dad put an Obama 2012 sticker on his car just to piss off this children.
Posted by: Beefy Meatball at April 22, 2012 08:56 AM (mxnUd)
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Not going to recycle to today to protest earth dar. MyObama supportingneighbor isleading an earth day park cleanup. My buddy threw some extra beer bottles on the park grounds last night to keep the liberals occupied.
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 08:56 AM (lkdo/)
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Sorry about your dad Elizabethe..I still wish him a Happy Birthday (even though he is liberal)
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 08:54 AM (lkdo/)
Thanks JC, he's more 'crazy' with a liberal leaning than full on liberal. He has some deeply conservative views on some things. But he's lived in CA for 60 years so, there's really not much hope.
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 08:54 AM (lkdo/)
Thanks JC, he's more 'crazy' with a liberal leaning than full on liberal. He has some deeply conservative views on some things. But he's lived in CA for 60 years so, there's really not much hope.
Posted by: elizabethe at April 22, 2012 08:57 AM (tD860)
Posted by: kdny at April 22, 2012 08:58 AM (MJ76f)
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@42: I think Rubio is just facing up to the fact that young illegals in this country since age 1, let's say, simply aren't going anywhere and we're better off facing that fact.
It's no worse than what Rick Perry did in Texas with college tuition.
It's no worse than what Rick Perry did in Texas with college tuition.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 08:58 AM (niZvt)
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Good idea chemjeff..maybe I will also start a barn fire and burn toxic substances to celebrate
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 08:58 AM (lkdo/)
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>> I'd like to coexist, and I have no desire to harm anyone. But what about those who wish to kill me for no reason?
My pal Wiserbud captured the reality of "Coexist" here: http://tinyurl.com/3tb549s
My pal Wiserbud captured the reality of "Coexist" here: http://tinyurl.com/3tb549s
Posted by: Andy at April 22, 2012 08:58 AM (XG+Mn)
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Are we talking an old time hardcore Democrat from the South? I have an uncle like that.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:53 AM (YdQQY)
No, a New York to LA transplant after serving in the Navy. He's a character.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:53 AM (YdQQY)
No, a New York to LA transplant after serving in the Navy. He's a character.
Posted by: elizabethe at April 22, 2012 09:00 AM (tD860)
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Elizabeth..Yeah 60 years of CA or East Coast will do that to a person. Even some of my conservative buddies cracked living on the east coast.
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 09:00 AM (lkdo/)
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Run over to Legal Insurrection and laugh at the bumper stickers...
Posted by: Mama AJ, still snickering at April 22, 2012 09:00 AM (XdlcF)
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Cool Czech is right. Gaia worship is the only religion approved of by statists. It fills the void of a spiritual life and will never compete with the states authority.
Posted by: thunderb at April 22, 2012 09:01 AM (Dnbau)
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It's no worse than what Rick Perry did in Texas with college tuition.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 08:58 AM (niZvt)
First off it wasn't Rick Perry's Dream Act. It was the TX legislature's act which he said was OK and signed it.
Second off the TX Dream act is not remotely close to the Dem's Dream Act which Rubio's is as well. The TX Dream act ONLY included "in-state" tuition for illegals who had been here for years.
The Dems and Rubio's Dream Act includes provisions for fast track to amnesty.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 08:58 AM (niZvt)
First off it wasn't Rick Perry's Dream Act. It was the TX legislature's act which he said was OK and signed it.
Second off the TX Dream act is not remotely close to the Dem's Dream Act which Rubio's is as well. The TX Dream act ONLY included "in-state" tuition for illegals who had been here for years.
The Dems and Rubio's Dream Act includes provisions for fast track to amnesty.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:01 AM (YdQQY)
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My buddy said he is going to change his truck oil and toss the used oil into the ground to celebrate earth day.
My buddy said he is going to change his truck oil and toss the used oil into the ground to celebrate earth day.
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 09:02 AM (lkdo/)
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Not going to recycle to today to protest earth dar. MyObama
supportingneighbor isleading an earth day park cleanup. My buddy threw
some extra beer bottles on the park grounds last night to keep the
liberals occupied.
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 08:56 AM (lkdo/)
You should have dumped all your recycling @ the park, or even a little outside, to see if it got cleaned up
Not going to recycle to today to protest earth dar. MyObama
supportingneighbor isleading an earth day park cleanup. My buddy threw
some extra beer bottles on the park grounds last night to keep the
liberals occupied.
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 08:56 AM (lkdo/)
You should have dumped all your recycling @ the park, or even a little outside, to see if it got cleaned up
Posted by: Red Shirt at April 22, 2012 09:02 AM (FIDMq)
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It's no worse than what Rick Perry did in Texas with college tuition.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 08:58 AM (niZvt)
I agree with this, actually, I'm more questioning the timing and optics. Let's see, during the election process, let's pander to people who can't vote and piss off people who can. That will lock up the election!
Perry saved himself (for me, if not others, I know) by being very hard on Border Control.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 08:58 AM (niZvt)
I agree with this, actually, I'm more questioning the timing and optics. Let's see, during the election process, let's pander to people who can't vote and piss off people who can. That will lock up the election!
Perry saved himself (for me, if not others, I know) by being very hard on Border Control.
Posted by: elizabethe at April 22, 2012 09:04 AM (tD860)
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As far as I'm concerned there is no other type of day on this planet than those of the earth variety, but I would appreciate fair warning if the leftists manage to get enough idjits behind Uranus Day.
Posted by: ontherocks at April 22, 2012 09:06 AM (aZ6ew)
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Red Shirt...good idea for the future. My buddy is jacking the truck up now. About to release the oil into mother earth. Oil comes from the earth anyway
Red Shirt...good idea for the future. My buddy is jacking the truck up now. About to release the oil into mother earth. Oil comes from the earth anyway
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 09:06 AM (lkdo/)
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:08 AM (7FadD)
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Ontherocks...May day is coming up. Another liberal "high holiday".
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 09:09 AM (lkdo/)
Posted by: Andy at April 22, 2012 09:10 AM (XG+Mn)
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:10 AM (YdQQY)
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66 It's no worse than what Rick Perry did in Texas with college tuition.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 08:58 AM (niZvt)
First off it wasn't Rick Perry's Dream Act. It was the TX legislature's act which he said was OK and signed it.
Second off the TX Dream act is not remotely close to the Dem's Dream Act which Rubio's is as well. The TX Dream act ONLY included "in-state" tuition for illegals who had been here for years.
The Dems and Rubio's Dream Act includes provisions for fast track to amnesty.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:01 AM (YdQQY)
Vic,
What we have now is this:
1. We need dracoanian border security and sanctions against employing illegals. I support those. Until we have those, we're tacitly leaving the backdooe open to illegal immigration, because as a society we want their sweet, sweet cheap labor.
2. Even as we want their sweet, sweet cheap labor, we want to keep them in a twilight zone of "illegal status," neither made to go home nor acknowledged as legitimate.
3. Every month that goes by, these illegals are having children with US Citizenship coupled with a grudge about the status their parents are kept in.
4. What No. 4 means is, we have the worst of all worlds: open borders, social discord, and slow motion transgenerational amnesty via anchor babies.
Rubio and Perry and Bush each saw this.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 08:58 AM (niZvt)
First off it wasn't Rick Perry's Dream Act. It was the TX legislature's act which he said was OK and signed it.
Second off the TX Dream act is not remotely close to the Dem's Dream Act which Rubio's is as well. The TX Dream act ONLY included "in-state" tuition for illegals who had been here for years.
The Dems and Rubio's Dream Act includes provisions for fast track to amnesty.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:01 AM (YdQQY)
Vic,
What we have now is this:
1. We need dracoanian border security and sanctions against employing illegals. I support those. Until we have those, we're tacitly leaving the backdooe open to illegal immigration, because as a society we want their sweet, sweet cheap labor.
2. Even as we want their sweet, sweet cheap labor, we want to keep them in a twilight zone of "illegal status," neither made to go home nor acknowledged as legitimate.
3. Every month that goes by, these illegals are having children with US Citizenship coupled with a grudge about the status their parents are kept in.
4. What No. 4 means is, we have the worst of all worlds: open borders, social discord, and slow motion transgenerational amnesty via anchor babies.
Rubio and Perry and Bush each saw this.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 09:10 AM (niZvt)
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Earth Day is a good time to remind people of the billions of dollars wasted on the various "Solyndra" clones. Not to mention the complete removal of real earth sciences from the US curriculum. I'm hoping to see some Erf Day posts on FB, so I can gleefully mock whatever canards the eco-weenies are spouting this week.
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 22, 2012 09:13 AM (hiMsy)
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In honor of Earth Day, I am whipping up a batch of dishwasher detergent that actually works by putting the phosphate BACK in.
Posted by: You Can Get Anything You Want At Lolo's Restaurant at April 22, 2012 09:13 AM (u3N3z)
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Democrat States got most of the stimulus money.
Palm Beach county went for Obama, but I didn't see a dime of any so called stimulus being spent here. I can't be the only one who noticed this either...
Palm Beach county went for Obama, but I didn't see a dime of any so called stimulus being spent here. I can't be the only one who noticed this either...
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 22, 2012 09:13 AM (NUz/b)
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If we provided a means to check for citizenship and then included harsh sanctions for hiring illegals with jail time for multiple offenses that would stop a LOT. Include laws to preclude welfare for illegals and that would get the rest.
They would all leave voluntarily. That has been proven every time one of the States cracks down.
They would all leave voluntarily. That has been proven every time one of the States cracks down.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:13 AM (YdQQY)
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dishwasher detergent that actually works by putting the phosphate BACK in.
You can still get TSP at specialty paint stores...I'm just saying.
You can still get TSP at specialty paint stores...I'm just saying.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 22, 2012 09:14 AM (NUz/b)
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No it doesn't, Vic.
Rubio's proposal allows children of illegals to stay with a non-immigrant visa, but does not give them a path to citizenship. The Democrats' DREAM act does.
Rubio's proposal allows children of illegals to stay with a non-immigrant visa, but does not give them a path to citizenship. The Democrats' DREAM act does.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:15 AM (7FadD)
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Palm Beach county went for Obama, but I didn't see a
dime of any so called stimulus being spent here. I can't be the only
one who noticed this either...
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 22, 2012 09:13 AM (NUz/b)
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As I said, very little of the "stimulus" went to projects you would "see" like road building. Most of it went to social programs for urban dwellers and schools for hiring disadvantaged minority teachers.
dime of any so called stimulus being spent here. I can't be the only
one who noticed this either...
Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 22, 2012 09:13 AM (NUz/b)
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As I said, very little of the "stimulus" went to projects you would "see" like road building. Most of it went to social programs for urban dwellers and schools for hiring disadvantaged minority teachers.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:15 AM (YdQQY)
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Okay, good morning! I'm off to church.
Posted by: elizabethe at April 22, 2012 09:16 AM (tD860)
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Just, ahhhhhhhhh, vote for me again. All of these, mmmmmmmmm, illegals will self deport.
Posted by: Preznit Training Pants at April 22, 2012 09:16 AM (jucos)
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You can still get TSP at specialty paint stores...I'm just saying.
You can still get Cascade with phosphates, it's just called Commercial.
You can still get Cascade with phosphates, it's just called Commercial.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 09:16 AM (NG097)
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chemjeff you are sure naive.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:16 AM (YdQQY)
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You can still get TSP at specialty paint stores...I'm just saying.
What's the function of it in paint? I'm curious because it seems to me that paint from 'way back when' would never get mold on it. Now I have to add some swimming pool algaecide to every gallon when I paint a bathroom.
I kinda have a suspicion the EPA made the paint people take some stuff out of the paint. Especially with all these reports of people having problems with drywall getting moldy.
What's the function of it in paint? I'm curious because it seems to me that paint from 'way back when' would never get mold on it. Now I have to add some swimming pool algaecide to every gallon when I paint a bathroom.
I kinda have a suspicion the EPA made the paint people take some stuff out of the paint. Especially with all these reports of people having problems with drywall getting moldy.
Posted by: Killer Rabbit at April 22, 2012 09:18 AM (phlKA)
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Vic, and you are sure cynical.
We have foreign exchange students right now, who get non-immigrant visas to study here. Do they have a "fast track to amnesty"?
We have foreign exchange students right now, who get non-immigrant visas to study here. Do they have a "fast track to amnesty"?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:19 AM (7FadD)
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Do they have a "fast track to amnesty"?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:19 AM (7FadD)
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Yes, most of them overstay those visas and become illegals themselves. Until they get amnesty.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:19 AM (7FadD)
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Yes, most of them overstay those visas and become illegals themselves. Until they get amnesty.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:20 AM (YdQQY)
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>>In honor of Earth Day, I am whipping up a batch of dishwasher detergent that actually works by putting the phosphate BACK in.
Hard to believe.. In Blue Mass we can still buy TSP!
I have 10- 4lb boxes just in case! I ship it to relatives in banned states.
Can't beat it for washing and de-glossing walls
SUCK it Washington state!
>>In honor of Earth Day, I am whipping up a batch of dishwasher detergent that actually works by putting the phosphate BACK in.
Hard to believe.. In Blue Mass we can still buy TSP!
I have 10- 4lb boxes just in case! I ship it to relatives in banned states.
Can't beat it for washing and de-glossing walls
SUCK it Washington state!
Posted by: sickinmass at April 22, 2012 09:21 AM (bcNec)
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I do think Rubio's proposal puts the cart before the horse, because we should have strict border security AND sanctions for hiring illegals AND fix the *legal* immigration system before even talking about visas for children of illegals. But I don't reject his proposal out of hand.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:21 AM (7FadD)
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I would eliminate "student visas" entirely. And I would totally eliminate ALL visas from most of the countries in the Middle East.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:22 AM (YdQQY)
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80 If we provided a means to check for citizenship and then included harsh sanctions for hiring illegals with jail time for multiple offenses that would stop a LOT. Include laws to preclude welfare for illegals and that would get the rest.
They would all leave voluntarily. That has been proven every time one of the States cracks down.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:13 AM (YdQQY)
I agree with you up to a point, though I'll say up front that if I grew up in America but then found out my parents from some Central American shithole were illegal... There would be no way in hell I would dutifully go there . Rubio is talking specifically about that situation.
Face it: most people aren't as upset with the illegals already here as they are with the idea tens of millions are on their way, and our government doesn't seem to care.
I support going after employers... But the fact we're not tells you that as a society, we're unwilling to kick our addiction to illegal labor. When people feel that the borders are truly secure, amnesty won't bother them nearly as much as it does now.
They would all leave voluntarily. That has been proven every time one of the States cracks down.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:13 AM (YdQQY)
I agree with you up to a point, though I'll say up front that if I grew up in America but then found out my parents from some Central American shithole were illegal... There would be no way in hell I would dutifully go there . Rubio is talking specifically about that situation.
Face it: most people aren't as upset with the illegals already here as they are with the idea tens of millions are on their way, and our government doesn't seem to care.
I support going after employers... But the fact we're not tells you that as a society, we're unwilling to kick our addiction to illegal labor. When people feel that the borders are truly secure, amnesty won't bother them nearly as much as it does now.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 09:22 AM (niZvt)
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Yes, most of them overstay those visas and become illegals themselves. Until they get amnesty.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:20 AM (YdQQY)
First I'd love to see any sort of statistic on the proportion of foreign students who overstay their visas and become illegals.
Second, even assuming you're right - should we then get rid of foreign student visas?
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:20 AM (YdQQY)
First I'd love to see any sort of statistic on the proportion of foreign students who overstay their visas and become illegals.
Second, even assuming you're right - should we then get rid of foreign student visas?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:23 AM (7FadD)
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Mitch Daniels kicking Chris Wallace's pansy ass on FNS. Hopefully Chris will soon join his commie old man broadcasting from Hell; and maybe Ailes can join them.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 22, 2012 09:23 AM (4atNB)
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Illegals are clogging up our hospitals. Worked at San Diego medical center years ago..full of illegals coming up from tijuana/baha penninsula...I imagine the illegal situation is even worse now..after obama and CA getting more liberal. I hear that San Diego is basicallymexico now..
Illegals are clogging up our hospitals. Worked at San Diego medical center years ago..full of illegals coming up from tijuana/baha penninsula...I imagine the illegal situation is even worse now..after obama and CA getting more liberal. I hear that San Diego is basicallymexico now..
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 09:27 AM (lkdo/)
Posted by: Ninja Please at April 22, 2012 09:27 AM (0xOQP)
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But the fact we're not tells you that as a society, government is we're unwilling to kick our addiction to out cheap illegal labor because those businesses contribute to their campaigns.
FTFY
That showed itself plainly when all the news had on after AL kicked them out was corporate farmers bitching about the high cost of American labor for picking fruit.
FTFY
That showed itself plainly when all the news had on after AL kicked them out was corporate farmers bitching about the high cost of American labor for picking fruit.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:27 AM (YdQQY)
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Okay Vic, just saw your response at #93.
I hope you realize that if we eliminate student visas, that would more or less cripple higher education in this country. We rely on foreign students, particularly foreign graduate students, for not only their tuition money but also their research contributions, especially in the sciences.
I hope you realize that if we eliminate student visas, that would more or less cripple higher education in this country. We rely on foreign students, particularly foreign graduate students, for not only their tuition money but also their research contributions, especially in the sciences.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:27 AM (7FadD)
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69 It's no worse than what Rick Perry did in Texas with college tuition.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 08:58 AM (niZvt)
I agree with this, actually, I'm more questioning the timing and optics. Let's see, during the election process, let's pander to people who can't vote and piss off people who can. That will lock up the election!
Perry saved himself (for me, if not others, I know) by being very hard on Border Control.
Posted by: elizabethe at April 22, 2012 09:04 AM (tD860)
I'll wager Rubio is just as tough on border security. A general Amnesty should only be done if true border security is achieved.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 08:58 AM (niZvt)
I agree with this, actually, I'm more questioning the timing and optics. Let's see, during the election process, let's pander to people who can't vote and piss off people who can. That will lock up the election!
Perry saved himself (for me, if not others, I know) by being very hard on Border Control.
Posted by: elizabethe at April 22, 2012 09:04 AM (tD860)
I'll wager Rubio is just as tough on border security. A general Amnesty should only be done if true border security is achieved.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 09:28 AM (niZvt)
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First I'd love to see any sort of statistic on the proportion of foreign students who overstay their visas and become illegals.
All you have to do is look. Numerous stories on that during the last push for amnesty.
All you have to do is look. Numerous stories on that during the last push for amnesty.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:28 AM (YdQQY)
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I would eliminate "student visas" entirely. And I would totally eliminate ALL visas from most of the countries in the Middle East.
But that would be the end of Penn States nuclear engineering program, as there would be no students left.
But that would be the end of Penn States nuclear engineering program, as there would be no students left.
Posted by: Killer Rabbit at April 22, 2012 09:28 AM (phlKA)
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Until we have a fence (it should necessarily be a mix of fences, walls, electronically observed areas, guys walking the line, natural barriers, etc., but I just call the concept a "fence") I don't hold out much hope for stemming the tide of illegals. Obviously hundreds of thousands of unauthorized "visitors" are coming and going every year, with countless tons of contraband in tow. That has to stop. It's unhealthy for our country as well as being unbecoming. If we can't handle our own borders we're not much of a country at all.
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 22, 2012 09:28 AM (hiMsy)
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CoolCzeh. I agree that USA is now addicted to illegals like crack cocaine. Makes me sick. Mexico has already invaded USA.
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 09:29 AM (lkdo/)
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Numerous stories on that during the last push for amnesty.
The plural of anecdote is not data. Just saying.
That showed itself plainly when all the news had on after AL kicked them
out was corporate farmers bitching about the high cost of American
labor for picking fruit.
A lot of them were from my county. They flat out said they were willing to violate the law for money. Pissed me off.
The plural of anecdote is not data. Just saying.
That showed itself plainly when all the news had on after AL kicked them
out was corporate farmers bitching about the high cost of American
labor for picking fruit.
A lot of them were from my county. They flat out said they were willing to violate the law for money. Pissed me off.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 09:30 AM (NG097)
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I hope you realize that if we eliminate student visas, that would more or less cripple higher education in this country.
Higher education this country has been "crippled" since the government got involved. Piss on them. Make all colleges private with zero gov money and no student visas.
Higher education this country has been "crippled" since the government got involved. Piss on them. Make all colleges private with zero gov money and no student visas.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:31 AM (YdQQY)
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Illegal is illegal, no matter how one twistslogic to justify a "solution". I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Rubio is on the fast track to RINOism. He's not the great conservative hope that he's been hyped as.
Posted by: Havedash at April 22, 2012 09:32 AM (JfvbF)
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Veering off the DREAM and Earth Day topics...
Having seen that GSA video played over and over again this weekend, I sure hope that, if the Obama campaign decides to use that Bain "fist full of dollars" picture against Romney this fall, the Romney people will quickly counter with the portion of the video showing the two gals waving the Benjamins. Perfect juxtaposition! The difference, of course, is that the GSA gals are waving OUR money around! What a perfect opportunity to knock down Obama's position that government knows how to spend more wisely.
Having seen that GSA video played over and over again this weekend, I sure hope that, if the Obama campaign decides to use that Bain "fist full of dollars" picture against Romney this fall, the Romney people will quickly counter with the portion of the video showing the two gals waving the Benjamins. Perfect juxtaposition! The difference, of course, is that the GSA gals are waving OUR money around! What a perfect opportunity to knock down Obama's position that government knows how to spend more wisely.
Posted by: Moonbeam at April 22, 2012 09:32 AM (1k4dd)
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Happy Earf Day. A bunch of retards here are celebrating by dressing like vegetables.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 09:32 AM (UOM48)
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The plural of anecdote is not data. Just saying.
Those stories included data. There was a very high percentage of overstayed visas.
Those stories included data. There was a very high percentage of overstayed visas.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:33 AM (YdQQY)
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The erfers were busy propagandizing any and all who showed up @ our farmers' market yesterday.
A fellow vendor asked me is I 'celebrated' erf day(worshiped gaia). I pointed out that I was reading, at that moment, the 1929 Scottish Liturgy. So no, I do not 'celebrate' this 'cursed ground' She got a little peevish about that statement. Hopefully I am not flung from the market for my heresy!
(JCRyle: "Some stop to sleep, forgetting this is not our rest, it is cursed ground")
A fellow vendor asked me is I 'celebrated' erf day(worshiped gaia). I pointed out that I was reading, at that moment, the 1929 Scottish Liturgy. So no, I do not 'celebrate' this 'cursed ground' She got a little peevish about that statement. Hopefully I am not flung from the market for my heresy!
(JCRyle: "Some stop to sleep, forgetting this is not our rest, it is cursed ground")
Posted by: Lizabth at April 22, 2012 09:33 AM (JZBti)
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In honor of earth day I plan to turn on every light in the house, open all my windows, run the heater and air conditioner at the same time and run all faucets all day long.
What's the name of that polluting slime creature in Fern Gully? We should adopt him as our mascot.
In honor of earth day I plan to turn on every light in the house, open all my windows, run the heater and air conditioner at the same time and run all faucets all day long.
What's the name of that polluting slime creature in Fern Gully? We should adopt him as our mascot.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at April 22, 2012 09:34 AM (bMLFV)
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Estimates that have been published are that more than half overstay.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:34 AM (YdQQY)
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Mexico has already invaded USA.
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 09:29 AM (lkdo/)
Sonofa...I thought I took care of that once!
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 09:29 AM (lkdo/)
Sonofa...I thought I took care of that once!
Posted by: Chuck Norris at April 22, 2012 09:34 AM (FIDMq)
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I'll propose a compromise, take the illegal engineers and statisticians, boot the lawnservice and HomeDepot parking lot guys.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 09:34 AM (NG097)
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Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 08:28 AM (YdQQY)
You could have been my uncle John. Catfishing every weekend begginning around Good Friday. We sent his kids out one night for some fire wood and they came back with a new RR tie! It burnt for 3 days.
You could have been my uncle John. Catfishing every weekend begginning around Good Friday. We sent his kids out one night for some fire wood and they came back with a new RR tie! It burnt for 3 days.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 22, 2012 09:35 AM (NWqcl)
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Well, Vic, some quick searching didn't turn up much, except one story which showed that the "majority" of students don't overstay their visas.
http://tinyurl.com/6nw6vyn
Perhaps you have some additional information you can share.
http://tinyurl.com/6nw6vyn
Perhaps you have some additional information you can share.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:36 AM (7FadD)
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Speaking of dishwashers and detergents-
Our young-old dishwasher crapped out a few months ago. and I'd pretty much given up on ever seeing sparkling clean dishes and glasses again due to no phosphate.
Mrs naturalfake went to Sears Outlet and wound up buying the bottom of the line BOSCH dishwasher at an even cheaper price.
Surprisingly, the dishes, glasses etc are all sparkling clean now.
The only difference is that the BOSCH [i}requires Jet-Dry. In the young-old, it was an option.
I find it hard to believe that the BOSCH mechanics are that superior but there you go.
YMMV but we are nothing but pleased.
Our young-old dishwasher crapped out a few months ago. and I'd pretty much given up on ever seeing sparkling clean dishes and glasses again due to no phosphate.
Mrs naturalfake went to Sears Outlet and wound up buying the bottom of the line BOSCH dishwasher at an even cheaper price.
Surprisingly, the dishes, glasses etc are all sparkling clean now.
The only difference is that the BOSCH [i}requires Jet-Dry. In the young-old, it was an option.
I find it hard to believe that the BOSCH mechanics are that superior but there you go.
YMMV but we are nothing but pleased.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 22, 2012 09:37 AM (I49Jm)
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Higher education this country has been "crippled" since the government got involved.
Wow. Vic wants to take higher education back to the 1850's.
Wow. Vic wants to take higher education back to the 1850's.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:39 AM (7FadD)
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Oh I take that back. Actually the oldest land grant university is Rutgers, founded in 1766.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:40 AM (7FadD)
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>>Posted by: Captain Hate at April 22, 2012 09:23 AM (4atNB)
Crikey, you must have that satellite radio thing.
I can't find any of the Hell channels, just a lot journeyman/statist lackey types working on potential admission while sounding smug and taking taxpayer subsidies.
Crikey, you must have that satellite radio thing.
I can't find any of the Hell channels, just a lot journeyman/statist lackey types working on potential admission while sounding smug and taking taxpayer subsidies.
Posted by: ontherocks at April 22, 2012 09:40 AM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:40 AM (YdQQY)
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How about tourists, Vic? would you permit tourist visas?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:41 AM (7FadD)
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In honor of Earf Day, I plan to fire up the charcoal grill this evening (if the rain stops) and grill some shrimp and an awesome chicken sausage I tasted at Kroger yesterday: Aidell's pineapple and bacon chicken sausage. OMG, it's good.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 09:42 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at April 22, 2012 09:42 AM (bMLFV)
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Wow. Vic wants to take higher education back to the 1850's.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:39 AM (7FadD)
I'd like to take all of the government back to the 1850s with the provision that we had no chattel slavery.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:39 AM (7FadD)
I'd like to take all of the government back to the 1850s with the provision that we had no chattel slavery.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:42 AM (YdQQY)
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So called "higher education" is infested with liberal propagandist sycophants.
Posted by: Havedash at April 22, 2012 09:43 AM (JfvbF)
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How about tourists, Vic? would you permit tourist visas?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:41 AM (7FadD)
If they paid returnable deposit.
How about tourists, Vic? would you permit tourist visas?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:41 AM (7FadD)
If they paid returnable deposit.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:44 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: ontherocks at April 22, 2012 09:40 AM (aZ6ew)
For some reason the Cleveland over-the-air Fox tv station seems to get FNS before most of the cable channels air it.
For some reason the Cleveland over-the-air Fox tv station seems to get FNS before most of the cable channels air it.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 22, 2012 09:44 AM (4atNB)
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"59 @42: I think Rubio is just facing up to the fact that young illegals in this country since age 1, let's say, simply aren't going anywhere and we're better off facing that fact. It's no worse than what Rick Perry did in Texas with college tuition."
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 08:58 AM (niZvt)
We know a Filipina that came to America on a fiance' visa. On the first nite after her arrival she had intercourse with the guy for the first time. The next morning he sent her out the door walking down a dirt road....
Several months later she met and married another guy. She legally should have returned to the PI before 90 days. Two years and a baby later, USCIS deported her and the infant. It took 8 years for her to re-immigrate back to America.
I don't feel sorry for her.She knewthat she had to return back home and reenter legally. It's upsetting to hear people cry out that it's impossible to deport illegals and a burden on the kids. Sorry. Actions have consequences.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 08:58 AM (niZvt)
We know a Filipina that came to America on a fiance' visa. On the first nite after her arrival she had intercourse with the guy for the first time. The next morning he sent her out the door walking down a dirt road....
Several months later she met and married another guy. She legally should have returned to the PI before 90 days. Two years and a baby later, USCIS deported her and the infant. It took 8 years for her to re-immigrate back to America.
I don't feel sorry for her.She knewthat she had to return back home and reenter legally. It's upsetting to hear people cry out that it's impossible to deport illegals and a burden on the kids. Sorry. Actions have consequences.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 22, 2012 09:45 AM (NWqcl)
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None of the links mentioned student visa overstays, per se. Just visa overstays in general.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 09:45 AM (NG097)
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From your third link, Vic:
Last year [2008], 39 million foreigners entered the United States, and using
paper logs, DHS has confirmed that 92.5 percent have left the country.
Of the remaining 2.9 million foreign visitors, an estimated 200,000 are
believed to have intentionally overstayed their visas.
So it would seem that ~7% of foreign student visa holders overstay their welcome. That is a problem but it is not an earth shatteringly large problem.
Your other statistic states that "nearly half" of illegals are people who overstayed their visas. That doesn't say anything, though, about the proportion of student visa holders who overstay their visas.
I suppose we could just get rid of student visas and that would solve half the illegals problem. But IMO that is throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
Last year [2008], 39 million foreigners entered the United States, and using
paper logs, DHS has confirmed that 92.5 percent have left the country.
Of the remaining 2.9 million foreign visitors, an estimated 200,000 are
believed to have intentionally overstayed their visas.
So it would seem that ~7% of foreign student visa holders overstay their welcome. That is a problem but it is not an earth shatteringly large problem.
Your other statistic states that "nearly half" of illegals are people who overstayed their visas. That doesn't say anything, though, about the proportion of student visa holders who overstay their visas.
I suppose we could just get rid of student visas and that would solve half the illegals problem. But IMO that is throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:46 AM (7FadD)
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105 CoolCzeh. I agree that USA is now addicted to illegals like crack cocaine. Makes me sick. Mexico has already invaded USA.
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 09:29 AM (lkdo/)
yeah, you're right: but Mexico couldn't have "invaded" ithout our acquiescence.
We need to kick the illegal cheap labor habit.
It's bad for us, it's unfair to the illegals. It's morally corrosive. America hasn't had a permanent underclass like this since the days of slavery.
We need to make it prohibitive to hire illegals: more tham border security, that will stop their inflow. Then, we can debate amnesty.
Of course, nothing will stop the demand for labor like 4 more years of Obama
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 09:29 AM (lkdo/)
yeah, you're right: but Mexico couldn't have "invaded" ithout our acquiescence.
We need to kick the illegal cheap labor habit.
It's bad for us, it's unfair to the illegals. It's morally corrosive. America hasn't had a permanent underclass like this since the days of slavery.
We need to make it prohibitive to hire illegals: more tham border security, that will stop their inflow. Then, we can debate amnesty.
Of course, nothing will stop the demand for labor like 4 more years of Obama
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 09:47 AM (niZvt)
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or rather, they weren't specific to students.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 09:47 AM (NG097)
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>>For some reason the Cleveland over-the-air Fox tv station seems to get FNS before most of the cable channels air it.
Same story up here for NBC's Meet Monkey Face.
Same story up here for NBC's Meet Monkey Face.
Posted by: ontherocks at April 22, 2012 09:47 AM (aZ6ew)
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>>What's the function of it in paint? I'm curious because it seems to me that paint from 'way back when' would never get mold on it. Now I have to add some swimming pool algaecide to every gallon when I paint a bathroom. >>I kinda have a suspicion the EPA made the paint people take some stuff out of the paint.
Oh, yeh:
http://tinyurl.com/6rot7o5
Oh, yeh:
http://tinyurl.com/6rot7o5
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 22, 2012 09:48 AM (XdlcF)
138
Apart from the southern border, a serious attempt to put a dent in illegal immigration is to deal with both coasts and all airport arrivals. I'm not saying "MegaFence!" but basic law enforcement/crime prevention measures should be used to arrest and quickly deport the ones who make it in. They're here, we know they're guilty. Give them a pro forma hearing to ensure they are not a potentially legit immigrant (political refugee, special skill) and have them on a plane within 72 hours. Instead we have virtual (maybe literal?) Welcome Centers for illegals in every major City in the Northeast. I('s untenable.
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 22, 2012 09:48 AM (hiMsy)
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Didn't we have foreign students even back in the 1850's?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:48 AM (7FadD)
140
103, feature or bug
Posted by: Jean at April 22, 2012 09:49 AM (eLCau)
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If they paid returnable deposit.
Okay, Vic, but by using your rationale, isn't that returnable deposit simply a payment up front for a fast track to amnesty?
Okay, Vic, but by using your rationale, isn't that returnable deposit simply a payment up front for a fast track to amnesty?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:50 AM (7FadD)
142
chemjeff, yes Texans and Canadians
Posted by: Jean at April 22, 2012 09:51 AM (eLCau)
143
I have some half-empty cans of paint in my garage. I think when I get home from church I might pour them out in the woods in honor of Erf Day.
Posted by: mama winger at April 22, 2012 09:51 AM (P6QsQ)
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(CNSNews.com) -- House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) told reporters at her Thursday briefing that President Barack Obama "has been so respectful of the Republicans in Congress."
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 22, 2012 09:51 AM (e8kgV)
145
so ankle brackets?
Posted by: Jean at April 22, 2012 09:52 AM (eLCau)
146
Heck, I'd be glad if we could get back to the country that existed before this woman and her ilk infiltrated the U.S. I never heard of Bella Dodd before, but she played quite the role in U.S. history. Besides Communists infesting all reaches of government, she says 1100 communists joined the U.S. priesthood of the Catholic Church in the 1930s.
http://bit.ly/Jzaw6k
http://bit.ly/Jzaw6k
Posted by: RushBabe at April 22, 2012 09:53 AM (tQHzJ)
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Big buisness has always demanded cheap foreign labor and government has always been more than willing to give it to them.
That was what was behind the massive influx of East Europeans in the early 1900s and what is behind the massive influx of illegals now.
BB and the government have no interest in stopping the illegals
What it does is artificially depress the wages of legal workers. People should be screaming about this but the MFM is keeping most people ill informed.
But even at that the last pols I saw said that 70% of the people were dead set against any form of amnesty now. So they try to hide it under different names now and sneak it in.
Even as we speak now OVomit is giving amnesty on a wholesale basis, illegally. And congress is not only not doing anything about it, they aren't even talking about it.
That was what was behind the massive influx of East Europeans in the early 1900s and what is behind the massive influx of illegals now.
BB and the government have no interest in stopping the illegals
What it does is artificially depress the wages of legal workers. People should be screaming about this but the MFM is keeping most people ill informed.
But even at that the last pols I saw said that 70% of the people were dead set against any form of amnesty now. So they try to hide it under different names now and sneak it in.
Even as we speak now OVomit is giving amnesty on a wholesale basis, illegally. And congress is not only not doing anything about it, they aren't even talking about it.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:53 AM (YdQQY)
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On FF this morning, they interviewed an Alabama Police Chief about a problem illegal he has to deal with. 35 arrests and the guy can't be deported because he's a "Palestinian", and the State Department does recognize the existence of "Palestine".
He's got an Egyptian passport but they won't take him back so every time he gets out of jail, he's just released into the public like he was a citizen.
He's got an Egyptian passport but they won't take him back so every time he gets out of jail, he's just released into the public like he was a citizen.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 09:53 AM (NG097)
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Coolczech "America hasn't had a permanent underclass like this since the days of slavery."
True. I don't even want to imagine what another 4 years of O will do.
Coolczech "America hasn't had a permanent underclass like this since the days of slavery."
True. I don't even want to imagine what another 4 years of O will do.
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 09:53 AM (lkdo/)
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"So it would seem that ~7% of foreign student visa holders overstay their welcome. That is a problem but it is not an earth shatteringly large problem."
Not all of the visas issued are student visas, chemjeff
Not all of the visas issued are student visas, chemjeff
Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 22, 2012 09:54 AM (NWqcl)
151
148
On FF this morning, they interviewed an Alabama Police Chief about a
problem illegal he has to deal with. 35 arrests and the guy can't be
deported because he's a "Palestinian", and the State Department does
recognize the existence of "Palestine".
He's got an Egyptian
passport but they won't take him back so every time he gets out of jail,
he's just released into the public like he was a citizen.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 09:53 AM (NG097
I saw that and ii infuriated me. Drop the idiot naked and covered in goat skins in the Hindu Kush.
On FF this morning, they interviewed an Alabama Police Chief about a
problem illegal he has to deal with. 35 arrests and the guy can't be
deported because he's a "Palestinian", and the State Department does
recognize the existence of "Palestine".
He's got an Egyptian
passport but they won't take him back so every time he gets out of jail,
he's just released into the public like he was a citizen.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 09:53 AM (NG097
I saw that and ii infuriated me. Drop the idiot naked and covered in goat skins in the Hindu Kush.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 09:55 AM (UOM48)
152
My fingers must be puffy. Teh typing is hard.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 09:56 AM (UOM48)
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Vic "Big buisness has always demanded cheap foreign labor and government has always been more than willing to give it to them."
True
Big business=government=communism. Work in the cubicle until you die. Give all to illegals.
Vic "Big buisness has always demanded cheap foreign labor and government has always been more than willing to give it to them."
True
Big business=government=communism. Work in the cubicle until you die. Give all to illegals.
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 09:56 AM (lkdo/)
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"So it would seem that ~7% of foreign student visa holders overstay their welcome. That is a problem but it is not an earth shatteringly large problem."
How many of the (19) 9-11 hijackers were here on expired student visas?
How many of the (19) 9-11 hijackers were here on expired student visas?
Posted by: RushBabe at April 22, 2012 09:56 AM (tQHzJ)
155
148, drive to DC toss over the wall of the Egyptian embassy
Posted by: Jean at April 22, 2012 09:57 AM (eLCau)
156
Drop the idiot naked and covered in goat skins in the Hindu Kush.
Heh. I didn't know that a country could refuse someone that they had issued a passport to. Why can't they just carry him to the US Embassy in Egypt as Consular Baggage and kick him out the door onto the Cairo street?
Heh. I didn't know that a country could refuse someone that they had issued a passport to. Why can't they just carry him to the US Embassy in Egypt as Consular Baggage and kick him out the door onto the Cairo street?
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 09:57 AM (NG097)
157
Dump him in the mideast anywhere from a military plane.
Or simply tell him the next time he is caught he will be treated as an enemy combatant spy and shot. He will then leave on his own.
Or simply tell him the next time he is caught he will be treated as an enemy combatant spy and shot. He will then leave on his own.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 09:58 AM (YdQQY)
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145
so ankle brackets?
I guess so.
IMO: we want visitors to come here, we want their tourist dollars / tuition dollars / research accomplishments in the lab / cultural exchange, but we should make it clear that visitors are *visitors* and they have to leave when time is up. There are always going to be people who ignore the law, and we have to deal with that. But in my mind the benefits outweigh the costs - as long as we actually do send home those who deliberately flaunt the law.
so ankle brackets?
I guess so.
IMO: we want visitors to come here, we want their tourist dollars / tuition dollars / research accomplishments in the lab / cultural exchange, but we should make it clear that visitors are *visitors* and they have to leave when time is up. There are always going to be people who ignore the law, and we have to deal with that. But in my mind the benefits outweigh the costs - as long as we actually do send home those who deliberately flaunt the law.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:59 AM (7FadD)
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And where do they get off starting new programs w/o Congress.
They can do anything they please as long as we have worthless POS in Republican leadership positions.
They can do anything they please as long as we have worthless POS in Republican leadership positions.
Posted by: Ted Nugent's Iron Testicles at April 22, 2012 09:59 AM (EL+OC)
160
Not all of the visas issued are student visas, chemjeff
You're right, I stand corrected, so we don't really know how many were student visa overstays
You're right, I stand corrected, so we don't really know how many were student visa overstays
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 10:00 AM (7FadD)
161
OMG. I forgot Keef Olberdouche was on This Week With George Snuffleupagus this morning. Missed it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 10:00 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: RushBabe at April 22, 2012 10:00 AM (tQHzJ)
163
Or send him to Egypt as the courier for our multi-billion dollar "aid" check. I'll bet they let him in then.
Posted by: toby928© haz connections at April 22, 2012 10:00 AM (NG097)
164
Heh. I didn't know that a country could refuse someone that they had issued a passport to.
You're correct. They can't. And even worse, why would we even bother asking? He's an Egyptian. Off to Egypt he goes ... otherwise, just bus the piece of shit into Mexico.
And ship the shithead judge and court officers who have been working the Egyptian's case out of country along with the illegal they tried to keep in America.
You're correct. They can't. And even worse, why would we even bother asking? He's an Egyptian. Off to Egypt he goes ... otherwise, just bus the piece of shit into Mexico.
And ship the shithead judge and court officers who have been working the Egyptian's case out of country along with the illegal they tried to keep in America.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderdPair at April 22, 2012 10:02 AM (X3lox)
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96
Mitch Daniels kicking Chris Wallace's pansy ass on FNS. Hopefully Chris
will soon join his commie old man broadcasting from Hell; and maybe
Ailes can join them.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 22, 2012 09:23 AM
Fuck that RINO Mitch Daniels, the other day he was wringing his hands over the Romney campaign being too negative, which means I guess you're not supposed to hit back
Mitch Daniels kicking Chris Wallace's pansy ass on FNS. Hopefully Chris
will soon join his commie old man broadcasting from Hell; and maybe
Ailes can join them.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 22, 2012 09:23 AM
Fuck that RINO Mitch Daniels, the other day he was wringing his hands over the Romney campaign being too negative, which means I guess you're not supposed to hit back
Posted by: kbdabear at April 22, 2012 10:02 AM (Y+DPZ)
166
Good news. Iran has announced it has cracked the codes of our drone they captured and they can create exact copies of ours.
Great job, asking for it back Barky, you worthless POS. How many of our troops will be killed because you didn't have the balls to destroy it?
I've never hated a person the way I do that Marxist jackass.
Great job, asking for it back Barky, you worthless POS. How many of our troops will be killed because you didn't have the balls to destroy it?
I've never hated a person the way I do that Marxist jackass.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 10:03 AM (UOM48)
167
From our own government
“Since 9/11, our border security efforts have been focused on
securing our borders; however, more than 40 percent of all illegal
aliens do not sneak across the border, they come in through the front
doorand never leave.
That means the number is huge because there has been no effort at all to "secure the border". .
“Since 9/11, our border security efforts have been focused on
securing our borders; however, more than 40 percent of all illegal
aliens do not sneak across the border, they come in through the front
doorand never leave.
That means the number is huge because there has been no effort at all to "secure the border". .
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 10:04 AM (YdQQY)
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cultural exchange
Uh ... no. We don't give a shit for "cultural exchange". No one with a brain does. Especially not any such "exchange" with primitve, barbaric, insane cultures that have grown nothing but loser populations for millenia.
Uh ... no. We don't give a shit for "cultural exchange". No one with a brain does. Especially not any such "exchange" with primitve, barbaric, insane cultures that have grown nothing but loser populations for millenia.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderdPair at April 22, 2012 10:04 AM (X3lox)
169
John Bolton is on Fox, slamming Obama for "single-handedly killing bin Laden [heh]" and letting Iran have our drone.
Bolton for Sec. of State under Romney (or VP?).
Bolton for Sec. of State under Romney (or VP?).
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 10:06 AM (UOM48)
170
Posted by: kbdabear at April 22, 2012 10:02 AM (Y+DPZ)
I've never been a big Daniels fan (and thank God his runaway wife isn't available for the JEF's minions to attack) but he was pretty good today. I can only call 'em as I see 'em.
I've never been a big Daniels fan (and thank God his runaway wife isn't available for the JEF's minions to attack) but he was pretty good today. I can only call 'em as I see 'em.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 22, 2012 10:06 AM (4atNB)
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Great job, asking for it back Barky, you worthless POS. How many of our
troops will be killed because you didn't have the balls to destroy it?
---------
He does not care. He does not lose any sleep over endangering our armed forces.
troops will be killed because you didn't have the balls to destroy it?
---------
He does not care. He does not lose any sleep over endangering our armed forces.
Posted by: mama winger at April 22, 2012 10:08 AM (P6QsQ)
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You can still get TSP at specialty paint stores...I'm just saying.
What's the function of it in paint?
TSP is used as a cleaning agent to remove grease and other contaminants from surfaces before painting them. It is not added to paint.
What's the function of it in paint?
TSP is used as a cleaning agent to remove grease and other contaminants from surfaces before painting them. It is not added to paint.
Posted by: dri at April 22, 2012 10:08 AM (g28gk)
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The problems with visas, student or tourist, is that the screening process is impossible, we issue too many long term ones, the lack of any return stick or carrot.
The work visa issues can be solved as you have a responsible party, the sponsoring corp. involved.
I think the schools should have to post a hefty return bond. This would encourage them to be more responsible.
The work visa issues can be solved as you have a responsible party, the sponsoring corp. involved.
I think the schools should have to post a hefty return bond. This would encourage them to be more responsible.
Posted by: Jean at April 22, 2012 10:09 AM (eLCau)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:11 AM (WNjVG)
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Visitor visas are not easy to obtain. One must show ties which would compel them to return back AND show finacial ability to have been able to earn enough money for the trip, stay, hotels, Disney, etc.
Hot, single, uneducated 20-year old Filipina. Never gonna get a tourist visa.
Olga the triple-chinned, married, hotelier from the Ukraine. Gets a visa before the ink is dry.
Hot, single, uneducated 20-year old Filipina. Never gonna get a tourist visa.
Olga the triple-chinned, married, hotelier from the Ukraine. Gets a visa before the ink is dry.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 22, 2012 10:11 AM (NWqcl)
176
My buddy hosted an exchange student...All he did was bash USA and say that they didnt give him enough. My friend fed, clothed, and housed this student. He was driven around. He never showered.
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 10:13 AM (lkdo/)
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Daniels should stick to governance. The State of Indiana thanks him and his approval rate shows it (about 70% I believe -- in today's divisive climate.....wow!).
He just doesn't resonate nationally. Sad.
He just doesn't resonate nationally. Sad.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:13 AM (WNjVG)
Posted by: phoenixgirl secretary and now walmart checker!! at April 22, 2012 10:16 AM (Ho2rs)
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@ 174 Bad as naming the wrong guy is, the really sad bit is that 53% couldn't/didn't come up with a name at all.
Posted by: Retread at April 22, 2012 10:17 AM (joSBv)
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All he did was bash USA and say that they didnt give
him enough. My friend fed, clothed, and housed this student. He was
driven around. He never showered.
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 10:13 AM (lkdo/)
At least, he didn't eat the dog, I guess.
him enough. My friend fed, clothed, and housed this student. He was
driven around. He never showered.
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 10:13 AM (lkdo/)
At least, he didn't eat the dog, I guess.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 22, 2012 10:18 AM (X3lox)
181
176
My buddy hosted an exchange student...All he did was bash USA and say
that they didnt give him enough. My friend fed, clothed, and housed this
student. He was driven around. He never showered.
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 10:13 AM (lkdo/
We were lucky. We hosted a kid five years ago for a one-year program who was one of the finest young men you'd ever meet. He was like an older brother to our son. He lived on campus but spent holidays in our home, and was like family. He just visited us this week. We've also become dear friends with his parents and sister.
I've heard horror stories from other people about hosting, but he was a true blessing for us. He's going to do great things with his life, I've no doubt.
My buddy hosted an exchange student...All he did was bash USA and say
that they didnt give him enough. My friend fed, clothed, and housed this
student. He was driven around. He never showered.
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 10:13 AM (lkdo/
We were lucky. We hosted a kid five years ago for a one-year program who was one of the finest young men you'd ever meet. He was like an older brother to our son. He lived on campus but spent holidays in our home, and was like family. He just visited us this week. We've also become dear friends with his parents and sister.
I've heard horror stories from other people about hosting, but he was a true blessing for us. He's going to do great things with his life, I've no doubt.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 10:18 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:19 AM (WNjVG)
183
177
Daniels should stick to governance. The State of Indiana thanks him and
his approval rate shows it (about 70% I believe -- in today's divisive
climate.....wow!).
He just doesn't resonate nationally. Sad.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:13 AM
Hard to resonate when he does a McCain and says that fighting back is bad, he's entrenched in the belief that lefties want to be our friends and we have to reach out.
Lefties dread the day when Republicans wake up to the fact that dealing with Dems is like dealing with jihadists
Daniels should stick to governance. The State of Indiana thanks him and
his approval rate shows it (about 70% I believe -- in today's divisive
climate.....wow!).
He just doesn't resonate nationally. Sad.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:13 AM
Hard to resonate when he does a McCain and says that fighting back is bad, he's entrenched in the belief that lefties want to be our friends and we have to reach out.
Lefties dread the day when Republicans wake up to the fact that dealing with Dems is like dealing with jihadists
Posted by: kbdabear at April 22, 2012 10:22 AM (Y+DPZ)
184
This can't be true. And if it is, why haven't we heard about it in a big way?
http://exm.nr/IdZ8fg
http://exm.nr/IdZ8fg
Posted by: RushBabe at April 22, 2012 10:22 AM (tQHzJ)
185
But the big question this morning is...what colors should I paint the living room??
Blue-green carpeting, faux distressed tile with dark red, brownish and grey bits.
Feels like beige is the only option.
<sob>
Blue-green carpeting, faux distressed tile with dark red, brownish and grey bits.
Feels like beige is the only option.
<sob>
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 22, 2012 10:23 AM (XdlcF)
186
Ugh, Daniel's lilliputian stature and on again/off again whorish wife are just made for SNL/Daily Show mockery.
No thanks.
No thanks.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 22, 2012 10:24 AM (I49Jm)
187
Hard to resonate when he does a McCain and says that fighting back is bad,
^^^
Where did he say this?
^^^
Where did he say this?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:24 AM (WNjVG)
188
@ 61: Andy that's a great photoshop and would make a good bumper sticker, I thought of one that had the Islamist symbol as pacman eating the others, but I like that one alot.
@ 61: Andy that's a great photoshop and would make a good bumper sticker, I thought of one that had the Islamist symbol as pacman eating the others, but I like that one alot.
Posted by: hobbes at April 22, 2012 10:25 AM (+CcmI)
189
This can't be true. And if it is, why haven't we heard about it in a big way?
http://exm.nr/IdZ8fg
Posted by: RushBabe at April 22, 2012 10:22 AM (tQHzJ)
Because we don't live under the Rule of Law, but the Rule Of Retard Empathy. Thanks Senate GOP for confirming that destruction of the foundation of Western jurisprudence that has stood for over three millenia ... until the ineligible, retarded, third-world dog-eater was selected to be the instrument of America's demise.
http://exm.nr/IdZ8fg
Posted by: RushBabe at April 22, 2012 10:22 AM (tQHzJ)
Because we don't live under the Rule of Law, but the Rule Of Retard Empathy. Thanks Senate GOP for confirming that destruction of the foundation of Western jurisprudence that has stood for over three millenia ... until the ineligible, retarded, third-world dog-eater was selected to be the instrument of America's demise.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 22, 2012 10:27 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 10:27 AM (YdQQY)
191
Hard to resonate when he does a McCain and says that fighting back is bad,
^^^
Where did he say this?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:24 AM (WNjVG)
Back a few months. Daniels was big on the Mr. Nice Guy approach to traitors and America-haters and he went out of his way to scold conservatives for being too ... openly conservative. He also had some stupid shit to say about Wisconsin, IIRC.
^^^
Where did he say this?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:24 AM (WNjVG)
Back a few months. Daniels was big on the Mr. Nice Guy approach to traitors and America-haters and he went out of his way to scold conservatives for being too ... openly conservative. He also had some stupid shit to say about Wisconsin, IIRC.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 22, 2012 10:30 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: phoenixgirl secretary and now walmart checker!! at April 22, 2012 10:30 AM (Ho2rs)
193
Phoenix Girl..He was from Scotland
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 10:31 AM (lkdo/)
194
Not hardwood or anything nice. And I'd have a revolt if I tried to get rid of it!
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 22, 2012 10:34 AM (XdlcF)
195
This can't be true. And if it is, why haven't we heard about it in a big way?
Really? I checked and it's not an Onion piece.
Really? I checked and it's not an Onion piece.
Posted by: Retread at April 22, 2012 10:34 AM (joSBv)
196
He also had some stupid shit to say about Wisconsin, IIRC.
^^^
Yeah this I sort of remember now. Which was my point about just sticking to IN politics. He's an asset there. Outside of the Midwest however.....not so much.
Even if he wasn't so squishy, say he was still 5'6" and balding, he still wouldn't stand a chance in hell --
Thank you 19th Amendment!
^^^
Yeah this I sort of remember now. Which was my point about just sticking to IN politics. He's an asset there. Outside of the Midwest however.....not so much.
Even if he wasn't so squishy, say he was still 5'6" and balding, he still wouldn't stand a chance in hell --
Thank you 19th Amendment!
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:35 AM (WNjVG)
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The problem with Rubio and lets face it, most conservatives when it comes to immigration illegal or legal is that they bought into liberal notion that diversity is something to strive for. Why? One thing most people can't admit is this country isn't great just because of some document or form of government, it's great because of the people that made it and set it's cultural standards. That would be white European descendents. Not blacks or Latinos or Arabs, the more we allow them to multiply the less our country is like the historical U.S., it becoming something foreign and less functional.
That's not even bringing the overall cost of allowing this legal and illegal immigration into the conversation.
That's not even bringing the overall cost of allowing this legal and illegal immigration into the conversation.
Posted by: lowandslow at April 22, 2012 10:36 AM (GZitp)
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Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 10:18 AM (UOM4
We had a great experience with a French exchange student who, in addition to being a drop dead gorgeous doll baby, has been like a third daughter to us and still stays in touch. She and her family have visited us subsequently in the US and has had us stay with them outside of Paris. Our experience has led us to travel more in Europe than we would have otherwise; there's nothing like learning the ropes from somebody you know to make a visit go well.
We had a great experience with a French exchange student who, in addition to being a drop dead gorgeous doll baby, has been like a third daughter to us and still stays in touch. She and her family have visited us subsequently in the US and has had us stay with them outside of Paris. Our experience has led us to travel more in Europe than we would have otherwise; there's nothing like learning the ropes from somebody you know to make a visit go well.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 22, 2012 10:37 AM (4atNB)
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Where did he say this?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:24 AM
Daniels: Romney’s campaign is too negative
http://tinyurl.com/8478zxd
Sorry Mitch, but trying to talk about policy points while every news cycle wants to talk about your doggie might be nice and classy, but nobody will hear those points
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:24 AM
Daniels: Romney’s campaign is too negative
http://tinyurl.com/8478zxd
Sorry Mitch, but trying to talk about policy points while every news cycle wants to talk about your doggie might be nice and classy, but nobody will hear those points
Posted by: kbdabear at April 22, 2012 10:38 AM (Y+DPZ)
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Low and slow. Don't forget asians. The asian population is growing in USA
Posted by: JC at April 22, 2012 10:38 AM (lkdo/)
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Union people can't be slaves because joining the union is voluntary. Voluntary != slavery. They're volunteers. Giving back to their community.
Meanwhile, it's Earth Day. Take the advice of Earth Day founders, eco-fascists:
http://twitpic.com/4o1jeh
Meanwhile, it's Earth Day. Take the advice of Earth Day founders, eco-fascists:
http://twitpic.com/4o1jeh
Posted by: Radish A. Radish at April 22, 2012 10:39 AM (enMrE)
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Here's a bit more on that NJ ballot challenge case from the Daily Record:
http://tinyurl.com/855qt4d
http://tinyurl.com/855qt4d
Posted by: Retread at April 22, 2012 10:41 AM (joSBv)
Posted by: phoenixgirl secretary and now walmart checker!! at April 22, 2012 10:41 AM (Ho2rs)
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Posted by: Captain Hate at April 22, 2012 10:37 AM (4atNB
Our student's parents and sister also just visited. She's an sponsored student now as well. My gawd, she is stunning, and a really sweet kid.
We were fortunate to get to know other foreign students through our guy and they were as nice and fun as he was. He just attended the wedding of one of the guys in Denmark.
Our student's parents and sister also just visited. She's an sponsored student now as well. My gawd, she is stunning, and a really sweet kid.
We were fortunate to get to know other foreign students through our guy and they were as nice and fun as he was. He just attended the wedding of one of the guys in Denmark.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 10:42 AM (UOM48)
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We had a great experience with a French exchange student who, in
addition to being a drop dead gorgeous doll baby, has been like a third
daughter to us and still stays in touch
^^^
This reminds of me of Better Off Dead (fuck you John Cusak!) where the gorgeous French exchange student goes to live with the freak family and the fat kid. She pretends not to speak any English so they'll leave her alone.
Well actually, really nothing from your story reminded me of that family as I'm sure you're not fat freaks. The French exchange student part got my mind thinking of that movie. Which is a great movie even if it does have that douche Cusak in it.
addition to being a drop dead gorgeous doll baby, has been like a third
daughter to us and still stays in touch
^^^
This reminds of me of Better Off Dead (fuck you John Cusak!) where the gorgeous French exchange student goes to live with the freak family and the fat kid. She pretends not to speak any English so they'll leave her alone.
Well actually, really nothing from your story reminded me of that family as I'm sure you're not fat freaks. The French exchange student part got my mind thinking of that movie. Which is a great movie even if it does have that douche Cusak in it.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:42 AM (WNjVG)
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It would be hillarious if the drone that the Iranians snagged was a planted dud, a sort of flying money pit. A real lemon, a flying AMC Pacer of sorts, that they have gone andspent time and money reverse engineering. Oh, that would just be a hoot! Good luck flying that turkey, boys.
Posted by: And Irresolute at April 22, 2012 10:42 AM (RC3M9)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 10:43 AM (UOM48)
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This Week with a Clinton Official has Olberman on it. They talked about the dog story which involved bashing Romney and then apologizing for Obama while squealing that "conservatives" are criticizing a little boy in Indonesia.
Posted by: dagny at April 22, 2012 10:43 AM (4yXmp)
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Do you think Iran actually "captured" that drone... Or is it just possible Barky thought it unfair we had a monopoly on drone technology?
Before you scoff, remember this guy wants to hand over our missile defense technology to Moscow just as soon he gets more "flexibility" after the November election.
Before you scoff, remember this guy wants to hand over our missile defense technology to Moscow just as soon he gets more "flexibility" after the November election.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 10:44 AM (niZvt)
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The French exchange student part got my mind
thinking of that movie. Which is a great movie even if it does have that
douche Cusak in it.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:42 AM (WNjVG)
That was a very funny movie.
thinking of that movie. Which is a great movie even if it does have that
douche Cusak in it.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:42 AM (WNjVG)
That was a very funny movie.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 22, 2012 10:46 AM (X3lox)
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"Challenger Hemi"
{sigh} Couldn't afford the hemi in mine, either initially or on the tank fill. Still plenty of power in the souped-up six.
{sigh} Couldn't afford the hemi in mine, either initially or on the tank fill. Still plenty of power in the souped-up six.
Posted by: creeper at April 22, 2012 10:46 AM (gre5a)
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Which is a great movie even if it does have that douche Cusak in it.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:42 AM (WNjVG)
"Gee, I'm really sorry your mom blew up, Ricky."
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:42 AM (WNjVG)
"Gee, I'm really sorry your mom blew up, Ricky."
Posted by: ErikW at April 22, 2012 10:46 AM (Qj7tx)
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208 ...criticizing a little boy FROM Indonesia. FIXED IT FOR YOU
Posted by: ktnxbai *cough* at April 22, 2012 10:47 AM (betH3)
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I think we're criticizing a guy that bragged about it in his book; not the poor dirty Indonesian kid per se.
If libs don't like that account, they can always go with Bill Ayers inadvertently left that portion in the book.
The choice is theirs -- choose wisely assholes!
If libs don't like that account, they can always go with Bill Ayers inadvertently left that portion in the book.
The choice is theirs -- choose wisely assholes!
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:47 AM (WNjVG)
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@ 209
Barky may well think our drone monopoly unfair but I don't think he's clever enough to deliver one to Iran in quite this way.
Barky may well think our drone monopoly unfair but I don't think he's clever enough to deliver one to Iran in quite this way.
Posted by: Retread at April 22, 2012 10:47 AM (joSBv)
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I want my $2!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:48 AM (WNjVG)
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I also have a picture on Iowahawk's Earthweek Cruise In of my 86 year old auntie's car. Scroll down the page. It's a pale yellow '85 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham. My dad says sitting down in the driver's seat makes your ass laugh. He's right.
Posted by: huerfano at April 22, 2012 10:48 AM (bAGA/)
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That Little Boy From Indonesia crap is tiring. The idiot wrote about it (or Billy Ayers did) and sounded almost proud of how cool and multi-cultural he was.
My husband thinks the whole dog issue with both Romney and Barky is silly. I disagree re Barky because it's getting under the Left's skin.
My husband thinks the whole dog issue with both Romney and Barky is silly. I disagree re Barky because it's getting under the Left's skin.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 10:49 AM (UOM48)
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I blame the ONT for keeping me up scouting for meteors. Ask me how many I saw, go ahead, ask me .... drum roll please .... ta-dah! ... ziltch, nada, none, zero! I see more "shooting stars" on any ordinary night, without all of the focus and anticipation and lawn chairs and everything! We need to spend a couple of bazillion bucks to research this problem, and cancel air shows if we have to, to get to the bottom of this mystery!
Posted by: And Irresolute at April 22, 2012 10:49 AM (RC3M9)
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Happy birthday to me! Happy birthday to me! Happy birthday, dear me! Happy birthday to me!
Posted by: zombie lenin at April 22, 2012 10:49 AM (nU/dt)
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Olbermann said that gas prices are 'deliberately' being run up to hurt Obama politically.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Good job, ABC. Good job.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Good job, ABC. Good job.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:50 AM (WNjVG)
Posted by: Panzer Trout at April 22, 2012 10:50 AM (lpWVn)
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I'M THERE!!! Iowahawk included my baby in his post. It's about two-thirds of the way down...an orange Challenger carrying the flag at the Quad City Speedway during the national anthem.
Posted by: creeper at April 22, 2012 10:51 AM (gre5a)
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I hate that I missed Olberdouche this morning. I'm hoping Newsbusters has some great clips up soon.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 10:51 AM (UOM48)
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Right now it's suck-the-life-out-of-the-room dark brown and put-me-out-of-my-misery beige.
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 22, 2012 10:51 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 10:51 AM (WNjVG)
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Will there be cake?!?! We were promised cake I think!! (in a Portal frame of mind)
Posted by: And Irresolute at April 22, 2012 10:51 AM (RC3M9)
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then apologizing for Obama while squealing that "conservatives" are criticizing a little boy in Indonesia.
Posted by: dagny at April 22, 2012 10:43 AM (4yXmp)
They still treat him like a retarded child, which is probably appropriate except Downs Syndrome children definitely have nicer personalities.
Posted by: dagny at April 22, 2012 10:43 AM (4yXmp)
They still treat him like a retarded child, which is probably appropriate except Downs Syndrome children definitely have nicer personalities.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 22, 2012 10:52 AM (4atNB)
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Fuck that RINO Mitch Daniels, the other day he was wringing his hands
over the Romney campaign being too negative, which means I guess you're
not supposed to hit back
This.
That cocksucker can rot in Hell with the entire Wallace clan.
over the Romney campaign being too negative, which means I guess you're
not supposed to hit back
This.
That cocksucker can rot in Hell with the entire Wallace clan.
Posted by: Ted Nugent's Iron Testicles at April 22, 2012 10:52 AM (EL+OC)
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We were lucky. We hosted a kid five years ago for a one-year program who was one of the finest young men you'd ever meet. ...
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 10:18 AM (UOM4
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One of my fellow police officers in my agency hosted a German exchange student about 10 years ago. Kid's father was Politzi and kid was excited that he got to live with "real American cowboy." The two families still stay in contact.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 10:18 AM (UOM4
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One of my fellow police officers in my agency hosted a German exchange student about 10 years ago. Kid's father was Politzi and kid was excited that he got to live with "real American cowboy." The two families still stay in contact.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 22, 2012 10:52 AM (M0NzJ)
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Olbermann said that gas prices are 'deliberately' being run up to hurt Obama politically.
Moo U must be so proud of Bathtub Boy.
Moo U must be so proud of Bathtub Boy.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 22, 2012 10:53 AM (4atNB)
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Fuck that RINO Mitch Daniels, the other day he was wringing his hands
over the Romney campaign being too negative, which means I guess you're
not supposed to hit back
He's suffering from "cheated on spouse" syndrome. No wonder his wife walked all over him.
Fuck that RINO Mitch Daniels, the other day he was wringing his hands
over the Romney campaign being too negative, which means I guess you're
not supposed to hit back
He's suffering from "cheated on spouse" syndrome. No wonder his wife walked all over him.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 10:53 AM (UOM48)
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#208 The dog story has shown up all over the place. They can whine all they want, but he bragged about it as an adult and put in his damn book, which he subsequently read for the audio version.
Coincidentally, there was a big article in the UK Daily Mail about how 500 dogs were rescued from going to Chinese restaurants by activists who intercepted the truck shipment in China. Complete with pictures of scared cute doggies who will thankfully live to see another day.
So, reading all of the upset Brit comments, I stuck my own in there about the dog-eater. I would like that story to go global.
Coincidentally, there was a big article in the UK Daily Mail about how 500 dogs were rescued from going to Chinese restaurants by activists who intercepted the truck shipment in China. Complete with pictures of scared cute doggies who will thankfully live to see another day.
So, reading all of the upset Brit comments, I stuck my own in there about the dog-eater. I would like that story to go global.
Posted by: Miss Marple at April 22, 2012 10:57 AM (GoIUi)
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I'M THERE!!! Iowahawk included my baby in his post.
It's about two-thirds of the way down...an orange Challenger carrying
the flag at the Quad City Speedway during the national anthem.
Posted by: creeper at April 22, 2012 10:51 AM
Fabulous! Granny?
It's about two-thirds of the way down...an orange Challenger carrying
the flag at the Quad City Speedway during the national anthem.
Posted by: creeper at April 22, 2012 10:51 AM
Fabulous! Granny?
Posted by: huerfano at April 22, 2012 10:57 AM (bAGA/)
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Next year I'm driving into Austin's Earth Day Rally and set up a folding table and Sandwich Board promoting the Self Sacrifice Action League.
Various levels of participation from "No Lights At Night" to "No More Useless Eating or Breathing"
Various levels of participation from "No Lights At Night" to "No More Useless Eating or Breathing"
Posted by: Panzer Trout at April 22, 2012 10:59 AM (lpWVn)
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brb, making my third trip to the land fill.
Posted by: lolearth day at April 22, 2012 10:59 AM (KWdVT)
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brb, making my third trip to the land fill.
Posted by: lolearth day at April 22, 2012 10:59 AM
Picking up or dropping off?
Posted by: lolearth day at April 22, 2012 10:59 AM
Picking up or dropping off?
Posted by: huerfano at April 22, 2012 11:00 AM (bAGA/)
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The Earf Day loons want us to stop eating meat, too. I'm going to fire up the Weber this evening and grill some dead animals.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 11:00 AM (UOM48)
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Indiana has the lowest number of public employees since
When he took office the State had been running a deficit seven years in a row. Four years later, he had 1.3 billion in rainy-day revenues. The State had its first AAA bond rating. Gone are EO's mandating union membership for state employees. And IN is now a right-to-work state. He initiated HSA's for state employees and state spending for these employees dropped by over 10%$. To top it off, public employees are at their lowest numbers since the 1970's.
Go get a grip with the 'he can rot in hell next to Wallace' bullshit. You sound completely unglued.
When he took office the State had been running a deficit seven years in a row. Four years later, he had 1.3 billion in rainy-day revenues. The State had its first AAA bond rating. Gone are EO's mandating union membership for state employees. And IN is now a right-to-work state. He initiated HSA's for state employees and state spending for these employees dropped by over 10%$. To top it off, public employees are at their lowest numbers since the 1970's.
Go get a grip with the 'he can rot in hell next to Wallace' bullshit. You sound completely unglued.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 11:00 AM (WNjVG)
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I'm celebrating earth day by eating a lot of dried fruit.
Posted by: runninrebel at April 22, 2012 11:01 AM (N/1Dm)
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He's suffering from "cheated on spouse" syndrome. No wonder his wife walked all over him.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 10:53 AM (UOM4
I know that by a true Christian concept of forgiveness he did the right thing; but lacking knowing him otherwise, I just can't respect somebody, particularly a pol, for being a fucking doormat.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 10:53 AM (UOM4
I know that by a true Christian concept of forgiveness he did the right thing; but lacking knowing him otherwise, I just can't respect somebody, particularly a pol, for being a fucking doormat.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 22, 2012 11:01 AM (4atNB)
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Copy/paste fail. You get the point though
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 11:02 AM (WNjVG)
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jane
what is up with that......i keep hearing about meatless mondays......having just gone through lent's meatless fridays......there's no way in hell i'm going to pick a new day to be meatless year round..........
what is up with that......i keep hearing about meatless mondays......having just gone through lent's meatless fridays......there's no way in hell i'm going to pick a new day to be meatless year round..........
Posted by: phoenixgirl secretary and now walmart checker!! at April 22, 2012 11:03 AM (Ho2rs)
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On my list of words I hate: "Vegan."
Screw You, "Vegans."
You're just Malnourished Wild Eyed Extremist VEGETARIANS. As fanatical in your way as Buddhist monks that sweep the ground wherever they go to ensure they don't step on their grandma, reincarnated as a slug.
And no phoney-baloney bullshit made up "words" can cover that up.
Screw You, "Vegans."
You're just Malnourished Wild Eyed Extremist VEGETARIANS. As fanatical in your way as Buddhist monks that sweep the ground wherever they go to ensure they don't step on their grandma, reincarnated as a slug.
And no phoney-baloney bullshit made up "words" can cover that up.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 11:03 AM (niZvt)
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Oh and Mia Love had a huge win yesterday. If you don't know her yet, you should. Check her out --
tiny.cc/zg95cw
tiny.cc/zg95cw
Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 22, 2012 11:04 AM (WNjVG)
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phoenixgirl, the Earfers believe cattle ranchers, etc. are Teh Evul because....methane gas!!!1111!!!.....
There was some nitwit on CNN the other day warning of the impending doom to Gaia if we continue to consume meat.
There was some nitwit on CNN the other day warning of the impending doom to Gaia if we continue to consume meat.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 22, 2012 11:04 AM (UOM48)
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"This Week" ran every Romney car-carrier joke that they could find and then beat their breasts. Too funny that they call it "Obama was served dog as a child in Indonesia...". Yeah, but he or Ayres bragged about it later.....Sorry Axelrod, you're talking points not working. LOL
Posted by: dagny at April 22, 2012 11:05 AM (4yXmp)
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who let the dogs out? bill ayers let the dogs out
Posted by: phoenixgirl secretary and now walmart checker!! at April 22, 2012 11:06 AM (Ho2rs)
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Book thread up.
Posted by: Vic at April 22, 2012 11:07 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Visitor from Planet Vega at April 22, 2012 11:08 AM (7FadD)
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Fabulous! Granny?
Posted by: huerfano at April 22, 2012 10:57 AM (bAGA/)
Many times over, thanks to stepchildren. My son has yet to produce an heir.
Love your Grandma's Caddy. They don't make 'em like that any more.I probably should've included a disclaimer when I sent that pic to David Burge. My Challenger is actually incredibly good on gas. It'll crank out thirty miles per gallon if you can restrain yourself from tromping on it.
I think.
Fabulous! Granny?
Posted by: huerfano at April 22, 2012 10:57 AM (bAGA/)
Many times over, thanks to stepchildren. My son has yet to produce an heir.
Love your Grandma's Caddy. They don't make 'em like that any more.I probably should've included a disclaimer when I sent that pic to David Burge. My Challenger is actually incredibly good on gas. It'll crank out thirty miles per gallon if you can restrain yourself from tromping on it.
I think.
Posted by: creeper at April 22, 2012 11:12 AM (gre5a)
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I looked at the guest and host lineups for the talking heads shows for this morning
I can't imagine anything more dreadfully boring than listening to these Beltway elitists drone on because they're so in love with their own thoughts
"Sunday Morning Talk: It's Either Us or Church"
I can't imagine anything more dreadfully boring than listening to these Beltway elitists drone on because they're so in love with their own thoughts
"Sunday Morning Talk: It's Either Us or Church"
Posted by: kbdabear at April 22, 2012 11:13 AM (Y+DPZ)
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I planted four oak trees yesterday. But it was at a gun club, and I drove a one-ton truck 20 miles to do it. So, we're even.
Back when most trap-shooters claimed to be practicing for duck season, we always thought our range was superior due to its natural setting, with a thick backdrop of scrub looking a lot like real woods, plus there was little hazard of any overshot contaminating the neighboring field, which we lease to a farmer. Now that trap is Dead Serious, competitors complain that those trees have to go, since they can't get an Olympic-grade line of sight on the birds. I'm torn, I really am. Clay pigeon is tender once you boil it.
Now, off to give my small private forest some TLC, using a saw, chain, 2-stroke smokin', McCullough, manufactured Etats-Unis. Urf!
Back when most trap-shooters claimed to be practicing for duck season, we always thought our range was superior due to its natural setting, with a thick backdrop of scrub looking a lot like real woods, plus there was little hazard of any overshot contaminating the neighboring field, which we lease to a farmer. Now that trap is Dead Serious, competitors complain that those trees have to go, since they can't get an Olympic-grade line of sight on the birds. I'm torn, I really am. Clay pigeon is tender once you boil it.
Now, off to give my small private forest some TLC, using a saw, chain, 2-stroke smokin', McCullough, manufactured Etats-Unis. Urf!
Posted by: Comatus at April 22, 2012 11:13 AM (ZOlM3)
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Shit my ride was up on the Earth Week Cruise In from day one, slackasses.
Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at April 22, 2012 11:13 AM (6IReR)
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Ugh. Phormatting phuck-up.
Posted by: creeper at April 22, 2012 11:14 AM (gre5a)
Posted by: Johnny Cash at April 22, 2012 11:18 AM (nEUpB)
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Damned sock.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 22, 2012 11:18 AM (nEUpB)
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@192 mama aj:
what's under the carpet?
And it's a low, slow, hanging curveball, right over the old plate.
what's under the carpet?
And it's a low, slow, hanging curveball, right over the old plate.
Posted by: Comatus at April 22, 2012 11:23 AM (ZOlM3)
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um...the secret service agent in charge in so america is a 46 yr old black woman who had previously launched a suit over women not getting high profile jobs in the agency? this is getting weirder and weirder......
http://tinyurl.com/8xmewmo
"A decade ago, she joined a controversial class-action lawsuit alleging that African-Americans like her were discriminated against by the agency and given less prominent jobs.
In an interview several years ago, she stood up for the ability of women to serve as bodyguards, saying: 'Women would not be remotely considered if we couldn’t do it physically - and we can.'"
Posted by: phoenixgirl secretary and now walmart checker!! at April 22, 2012 11:26 AM (Ho2rs)
she didn't launch the suit but joined the suit....
this is getting odder and odder...apparently the secret service isn't what we thought they were....
http://tinyurl.com/8xmewmo
"A decade ago, she joined a controversial class-action lawsuit alleging that African-Americans like her were discriminated against by the agency and given less prominent jobs.
In an interview several years ago, she stood up for the ability of women to serve as bodyguards, saying: 'Women would not be remotely considered if we couldn’t do it physically - and we can.'"
Posted by: phoenixgirl secretary and now walmart checker!! at April 22, 2012 11:26 AM (Ho2rs)
she didn't launch the suit but joined the suit....
this is getting odder and odder...apparently the secret service isn't what we thought they were....
Posted by: phoenixgirl secretary and now walmart checker!! at April 22, 2012 11:30 AM (Ho2rs)
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I've sobered up and went back and re-read Ericksons butthurt about how Romney hasn't sucked up to he and his "evangelicals" enough.
Fuck him. Fuck him every which way but loose.
Because Romney didn't throw out all the right code words and touchstones in his statement about the death of somebody 85% of Americans couldn't pick out of a line up he decides to go all Mike Huckabee and "I'm not saying it but what I've heard is [attack of the day on Mormons]."
Just like that coocoo bananas Stacy McCain ("God told me to support Santorum") who has gone all concern troll--"Look at all the bad things the left is saying about Mormons (which I must repeat and amplify) how can we ever counter that?" *
If that piece of shit Erick put up was a post here, it'd be immediately mocked with "Concern troll is very concerned."
*A post in which I think he even called out Ace for being too optimistic about Romney winning.
Fuck him. Fuck him every which way but loose.
Because Romney didn't throw out all the right code words and touchstones in his statement about the death of somebody 85% of Americans couldn't pick out of a line up he decides to go all Mike Huckabee and "I'm not saying it but what I've heard is [attack of the day on Mormons]."
Just like that coocoo bananas Stacy McCain ("God told me to support Santorum") who has gone all concern troll--"Look at all the bad things the left is saying about Mormons (which I must repeat and amplify) how can we ever counter that?" *
If that piece of shit Erick put up was a post here, it'd be immediately mocked with "Concern troll is very concerned."
*A post in which I think he even called out Ace for being too optimistic about Romney winning.
Posted by: jimmuy at April 22, 2012 11:30 AM (kSaUf)
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Where's the warning that rioters will be put into a condo with bars on the windows?
Residents of State Street Condo Told To Leave Chicago During NATO Summit
http://tinyurl.com/7b8ku86
Chicago - Residents of a Chicago condo whose building will be in the eye of the NATO storm are being warned that they should move out for the weekend ... or risk being trapped inside by rioters.
FOX Chicago News was first to report Friday that the people living in the 17-floor Library Tower building at 520 South State Street were warned in a letter from condo management that "we are STRONGLY recommending that all residents find places to stay during the conference from May 18 through May 21."
Residents of State Street Condo Told To Leave Chicago During NATO Summit
http://tinyurl.com/7b8ku86
Chicago - Residents of a Chicago condo whose building will be in the eye of the NATO storm are being warned that they should move out for the weekend ... or risk being trapped inside by rioters.
FOX Chicago News was first to report Friday that the people living in the 17-floor Library Tower building at 520 South State Street were warned in a letter from condo management that "we are STRONGLY recommending that all residents find places to stay during the conference from May 18 through May 21."
Posted by: kbdabear at April 22, 2012 11:31 AM (Y+DPZ)
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LOL. Um can I change my answer?
And I will refrain from mentioning anything about the trim being painted over.
And I will refrain from mentioning anything about the trim being painted over.
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 22, 2012 11:31 AM (XdlcF)
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A decade ago, she joined a controversial class-action lawsuit alleging
that African-Americans like her were discriminated against by the agency
and given less prominent jobs.
Typical ... for a suicidal nation.
The fact that this bint and everyone who joined that suit weren't immediately thrown out of the Secret Service (and all possibility of future government employment) says everything about America that any of our enemies needs to know.
We are pathetic. History books of the future will not be kind to this ridiculous population that inhabits America, right now. One of the worst, dumbest, most cowardly populations of humans to ever walk the planet. We will be a cautionary tale for MILLENIA.
that African-Americans like her were discriminated against by the agency
and given less prominent jobs.
Typical ... for a suicidal nation.
The fact that this bint and everyone who joined that suit weren't immediately thrown out of the Secret Service (and all possibility of future government employment) says everything about America that any of our enemies needs to know.
We are pathetic. History books of the future will not be kind to this ridiculous population that inhabits America, right now. One of the worst, dumbest, most cowardly populations of humans to ever walk the planet. We will be a cautionary tale for MILLENIA.
Posted by: King Barky at April 22, 2012 11:39 AM (X3lox)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 22, 2012 11:41 AM (X3lox)
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It's April 22, and somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing it's SCOAMF...
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 22, 2012 11:42 AM (niZvt)
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I went to a mall in an ethnic area of Californiaand about half the poster ads on the kiosks werestate-funded ads encouraging people to sue their employers or lenders for discrimination. So the state isbroke, but apparently there is plenty of money to driveprivate sector business away.
Also, about half the billboards on the freeway are promoting Amtrak.
Also, about half the billboards on the freeway are promoting Amtrak.
Posted by: artemis at April 22, 2012 11:47 AM (2XMD1)
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I don't even know what to say other than that the gnashing of my teeth is going to give me a headache.
These people are so fucking delusional.... and that's not the half of it.
http://bit.ly/IcdLiV
I say we should revoke their fucking passports.
These people are so fucking delusional.... and that's not the half of it.
http://bit.ly/IcdLiV
I say we should revoke their fucking passports.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 22, 2012 11:49 AM (piMMO)
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In honor of Earth day, I am eating steak all day. That way, I can kill a cow and prevent that cow from farting...which is bad for the enviroment, or something.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 22, 2012 11:59 AM (OWjjx)
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I found a series of fantastic articles about the Zimmerman-Martin case.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/04/22/
update-11-trayvon-martin-shooting-final-
deconstruction-of-benjamin-crumps-media-evidence/#more-38043
See the links for Update 9, Update 10 (Part 1), and Update 10 (part 2), which are contained in my link above.
You will need to pack a lunch, or even an overnight bag, if you delve into these posts. They are chock-full of material and are absolutely essential reading for anyone who is interested in this case.
In a sane world, these posts would win a Pulitzer Prize for investigative reporting. Of course, they were written by bloggers, not the MSM.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/04/22/
update-11-trayvon-martin-shooting-final-
deconstruction-of-benjamin-crumps-media-evidence/#more-38043
See the links for Update 9, Update 10 (Part 1), and Update 10 (part 2), which are contained in my link above.
You will need to pack a lunch, or even an overnight bag, if you delve into these posts. They are chock-full of material and are absolutely essential reading for anyone who is interested in this case.
In a sane world, these posts would win a Pulitzer Prize for investigative reporting. Of course, they were written by bloggers, not the MSM.
Posted by: rickl supports SMOD/Supervolcano 2012 at April 22, 2012 12:00 PM (sdi6R)
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The forecast is calling for 4-6 inches of global warming tonight and tomorrow.
Posted by: meekrob at April 22, 2012 12:06 PM (x2CNJ)
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See the links for Update 9, Update 10 (Part 1), and Update 10 (part 2), which are contained in my link above.
****
I read update #9 last night. I'm gonna have to take it in small bites because it's just too much information to read all at once. It's good reporting, but there is also an obvious bias in the reporting.
****
I read update #9 last night. I'm gonna have to take it in small bites because it's just too much information to read all at once. It's good reporting, but there is also an obvious bias in the reporting.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 22, 2012 12:10 PM (piMMO)
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In honor of Earth day, I am eating steak all day. That way, I can kill a
cow and prevent that cow from farting...which is bad for the
enviroment, or something.
****
It's an heroic act you are undertaking.
Stop the cows before they kill again!
cow and prevent that cow from farting...which is bad for the
enviroment, or something.
****
It's an heroic act you are undertaking.
Stop the cows before they kill again!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 22, 2012 12:11 PM (piMMO)
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who took carl rove's balls? that guy has turned into the biggest pussy....
Posted by: phoenixgirl secretary and now walmart checker!! at April 22, 2012 12:18 PM (Ho2rs)
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For Erf Day I have promised that I will start "People for the Ethical Treatment of Vegetables".
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It's long been my contention that vegetarians just like to kill things that can't scream.
For Erf Day I have promised that I will start "People for the Ethical Treatment of Vegetables".
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It's long been my contention that vegetarians just like to kill things that can't scream.
Posted by: Anachronda at April 22, 2012 12:35 PM (6fER6)
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"We're really surprised or
shocked that anything like this could happen to our family," the girl's
uncle, Justin Mastromarino, told the television station.Neighbors told KVOA-TV that they couldn't understand how something like this could happen to the Celis family."They're amazing people. They're very nice very sweet (and) outgoing," neighbor Jerry Pike said." http://tinyurl.com/7l9ddp2
It really worries me, where our culture is going. So the family is a nice family. If the family was a horrible rotten disliked family does that matter? Their little girl is still missing. The intimation would be that they wouldn't look quite so hard for them is they weren't "nice"? Are we getting to the point where we are becoming that much of a judgmental society?
shocked that anything like this could happen to our family," the girl's
uncle, Justin Mastromarino, told the television station.Neighbors told KVOA-TV that they couldn't understand how something like this could happen to the Celis family."They're amazing people. They're very nice very sweet (and) outgoing," neighbor Jerry Pike said." http://tinyurl.com/7l9ddp2
It really worries me, where our culture is going. So the family is a nice family. If the family was a horrible rotten disliked family does that matter? Their little girl is still missing. The intimation would be that they wouldn't look quite so hard for them is they weren't "nice"? Are we getting to the point where we are becoming that much of a judgmental society?
Posted by: dally, who does not enjoy paying so much tax at April 22, 2012 12:40 PM (oZfic)
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The plural of anecdote is not data. Just saying.
In the phrase 'anecdotal data' - 'data' is the key part of the phrase and 'anecdotal' is the modifier, which tells you what type of data you are considering.
One of the huge problems of science is the wholesale rejection of anecdotal data; for example early in the history of science people told scientists that rocks fall from the sky. Those people were ignored and ridiculed - after all how could rocks fall from the sky? Of course rocks do fall from the sky - the early scientists were simply wrong.
The general populace then made an error when the early scientists were shown to be wrong; they didn't heap back on the scientists all of the ridicule and scorn that the scientists had poured on them - after all, they had been correct in what they were saying, and the scientists had been wrong. Unfortunately - as a result - scientists felt safe in continuing to
ridicule people for offering anecdotal evidence to them; and sadly they
still feel safe in ridiculing people for doing so today.
More recently scientists discounted and ridiculed sailors for telling them that giant waves bigger than 65 feet in height existed in the ocean. Of course when the scientists bothered to check - they found out the sailors were correct - giant waves bigger than 65 feet do exist in the oceans.
Scientists ridicule stories that elephants startle at mice. I personally have never seen an elephant startle at a mouse - however I have seen an Indian elephant at the Houston zoo startle at the movement of a squirrel at its feet. From the perspective of an elephant - who has poor eyesight - that startle reaction is understandable; a rodent moving quickly can look like a snake to an elephant. Poisonous snakes are something even an elephant has to be concerned with.
Sadly most people won't tell scientists anything that they observe today because of the fear of ridicule - that is a great loss to science.
In the phrase 'anecdotal data' - 'data' is the key part of the phrase and 'anecdotal' is the modifier, which tells you what type of data you are considering.
One of the huge problems of science is the wholesale rejection of anecdotal data; for example early in the history of science people told scientists that rocks fall from the sky. Those people were ignored and ridiculed - after all how could rocks fall from the sky? Of course rocks do fall from the sky - the early scientists were simply wrong.
The general populace then made an error when the early scientists were shown to be wrong; they didn't heap back on the scientists all of the ridicule and scorn that the scientists had poured on them - after all, they had been correct in what they were saying, and the scientists had been wrong. Unfortunately - as a result - scientists felt safe in continuing to
ridicule people for offering anecdotal evidence to them; and sadly they
still feel safe in ridiculing people for doing so today.
More recently scientists discounted and ridiculed sailors for telling them that giant waves bigger than 65 feet in height existed in the ocean. Of course when the scientists bothered to check - they found out the sailors were correct - giant waves bigger than 65 feet do exist in the oceans.
Scientists ridicule stories that elephants startle at mice. I personally have never seen an elephant startle at a mouse - however I have seen an Indian elephant at the Houston zoo startle at the movement of a squirrel at its feet. From the perspective of an elephant - who has poor eyesight - that startle reaction is understandable; a rodent moving quickly can look like a snake to an elephant. Poisonous snakes are something even an elephant has to be concerned with.
Sadly most people won't tell scientists anything that they observe today because of the fear of ridicule - that is a great loss to science.
Posted by: An Observation at April 22, 2012 12:41 PM (ylhEn)
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"274
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For Erf Day I have promised that I will start "People for the Ethical Treatment of Vegetables".
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It's long been my contention that vegetarians just like to kill things that can't scream.
Posted by: Anachronda at April 22, 2012 12:35 PM (6fER6)""IT IS now possible to hear plants scream"http://tinyurl.com/2g443oj
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For Erf Day I have promised that I will start "People for the Ethical Treatment of Vegetables".
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It's long been my contention that vegetarians just like to kill things that can't scream.
Posted by: Anachronda at April 22, 2012 12:35 PM (6fER6)""IT IS now possible to hear plants scream"http://tinyurl.com/2g443oj
Posted by: dally, who does not enjoy paying so much tax at April 22, 2012 12:46 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: grease monkey at April 22, 2012 12:46 PM (VSWPU)
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139
Didn't we have foreign students even back in the 1850's?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:48 AM (7FadD)
Yeah, we called them Yankees.
Didn't we have foreign students even back in the 1850's?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 22, 2012 09:48 AM (7FadD)
Yeah, we called them Yankees.
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 22, 2012 12:58 PM (hXJOG)
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One of the huge problems of science is the wholesale rejection of anecdotal data; for example early in the history of science people told scientists that rocks fall from the sky. Those people were ignored and ridiculed - after all how could rocks fall from the sky? Of course rocks do fall from the sky - the early scientists were simply wrong.
I remember reading somewhere that 100 years ago, many professional meteorologists regarded tornadoes as a myth. These professional scientists were mostly in universities and cities on the East Coast and in Europe. When they heard accounts from illiterate farmers in the Ozarks describing black funnel clouds and trees and cattle flying through the air, they must have sounded like something out of Paul Bunyan stories.
I think the first photograph of a tornado was taken in the 1880s, and the next one I know of was from around 1950. They simply weren't well documented back then, except for eyewitness accounts.
One of the huge problems of science is the wholesale rejection of anecdotal data; for example early in the history of science people told scientists that rocks fall from the sky. Those people were ignored and ridiculed - after all how could rocks fall from the sky? Of course rocks do fall from the sky - the early scientists were simply wrong.
I remember reading somewhere that 100 years ago, many professional meteorologists regarded tornadoes as a myth. These professional scientists were mostly in universities and cities on the East Coast and in Europe. When they heard accounts from illiterate farmers in the Ozarks describing black funnel clouds and trees and cattle flying through the air, they must have sounded like something out of Paul Bunyan stories.
I think the first photograph of a tornado was taken in the 1880s, and the next one I know of was from around 1950. They simply weren't well documented back then, except for eyewitness accounts.
Posted by: rickl supports SMOD/Supervolcano 2012 at April 22, 2012 01:03 PM (sdi6R)
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The nitwits were protesting here in Boise ID over the weekend. Koney 2012. Making a difference by gathering in small groups making signs. The local news of course covered it. What the news won't show you though is the spray paint on the downtown businesses walls adjacent to the sidewalk on 8th street. Koney 2012 then below it a picture of a marijuana leaf. Just more destruction of private property protesting in the name of something.
The nitwits were protesting here in Boise ID over the weekend. Koney 2012. Making a difference by gathering in small groups making signs. The local news of course covered it. What the news won't show you though is the spray paint on the downtown businesses walls adjacent to the sidewalk on 8th street. Koney 2012 then below it a picture of a marijuana leaf. Just more destruction of private property protesting in the name of something.
Posted by: Buffalobob at April 22, 2012 01:20 PM (qiFDD)
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"The nitwits were protesting here in Boise ID over the weekend. Koney 2012."
Because Boise is central in ridding the world of Koney. Someone should remind them there's flights to Kenya and Uganda every day.
Because Boise is central in ridding the world of Koney. Someone should remind them there's flights to Kenya and Uganda every day.
Posted by: lowandslow at April 22, 2012 01:41 PM (GZitp)
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A 'Pagan Religion'
"It is very difficult in France to fight the pieties of climate change, let's put it like that," Anne-Elisabeth Moutet, Paris columnist for the London Telegraph, added.
Moutet termed the belief in climate change, "a catechism:"
"Yes, it's a piety that they repeat over and over," she said.
French philosopher Pascal Bruckner called the belief in climate change "a pagan religion."
"It is very difficult in France to fight the pieties of climate change, let's put it like that," Anne-Elisabeth Moutet, Paris columnist for the London Telegraph, added.
Moutet termed the belief in climate change, "a catechism:"
"Yes, it's a piety that they repeat over and over," she said.
French philosopher Pascal Bruckner called the belief in climate change "a pagan religion."
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at April 22, 2012 01:47 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: meekrob at April 22, 2012 04:12 PM (x2CNJ)
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Sometimes we sense things without really understanding it...Now, for
what, the 25th time in a row, the Obama campaign trots out senior
adviser David Axelrod on to MTP to mouth the same stale propaganda. 1 week after
the same clown unintentionally endorsed Mitt Romney's economic plan...
Now, I understand that the typical campaign strategy is to have your
surrogates go out there to make your case, and only use the candidate in
rare instances, to "preserve his aura/dignity," etc. But the Obama
campaign is obviously using Axelrod BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN
THEIR CANDIDATE TO AVOID HUMILIATING/HURTING HIMSELF in an interview.
Even a lame and slimy spokesman like Ax, who can't go on camera without
hurting his candidate, is considered by the campaign to be better than
Obama at his best. They will only let the candidate go out there in the
friendliest venues, like interviews with the late Mike Wallace, who is
now guaranteed not to ask a sharp question.
I will predict that Obama will also refuse any debates, unless even his
friendliest polls show him down by at least 6 pts...IOW, unless he is a
sure loser anyway.
Repubs need to understand that Obama is actually the weakest candidate
they can hope for, and they need to hit him with consistent jabs, hooks,
and then haymakers...Unlike the pathetic McLame, who relied on
rope-a-dope, and HE was the dope.
what, the 25th time in a row, the Obama campaign trots out senior
adviser David Axelrod on to MTP to mouth the same stale propaganda. 1 week after
the same clown unintentionally endorsed Mitt Romney's economic plan...
Now, I understand that the typical campaign strategy is to have your
surrogates go out there to make your case, and only use the candidate in
rare instances, to "preserve his aura/dignity," etc. But the Obama
campaign is obviously using Axelrod BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN
THEIR CANDIDATE TO AVOID HUMILIATING/HURTING HIMSELF in an interview.
Even a lame and slimy spokesman like Ax, who can't go on camera without
hurting his candidate, is considered by the campaign to be better than
Obama at his best. They will only let the candidate go out there in the
friendliest venues, like interviews with the late Mike Wallace, who is
now guaranteed not to ask a sharp question.
I will predict that Obama will also refuse any debates, unless even his
friendliest polls show him down by at least 6 pts...IOW, unless he is a
sure loser anyway.
Repubs need to understand that Obama is actually the weakest candidate
they can hope for, and they need to hit him with consistent jabs, hooks,
and then haymakers...Unlike the pathetic McLame, who relied on
rope-a-dope, and HE was the dope.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at April 22, 2012 04:38 PM (Dd+yB)
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Happy Earf Day! We celebrated by cutting down some trees and grilling some meat!
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