Top Headline Comments 4-11-12

Happy Wednesday. It's another early day for me, but at least this time I brought news.

The EU Court of Human Blah Blah says that solitary confinement at U.S. supermax prisons does not violate prisoner human rights and so will allow the extradition of Al Qaeda hostage-taker Abu Hamza and four others to stand trial and receive possible sentences to federal pound-them-in-the-ass prisons.

The Weekly Standard has a good piece about how Senate majority leader McConnell steered the JOBS Act to get by reluctant Democrats.

Indonesia was just hit with a major earthquake, in the 8.6 range (USGS is still revising the official number). There has already been one 6.5 aftershock.

T-Paw has officially retired his campaign debt, with help from Rep. Bachmann and Gov. Romney. He also filed papers to officially disband his campaign.

There's going to be an overabundance of Santorum campaign post-mortems today. Let me summarize. Some folks will say it was the primary schedule that sunk him. Some will say it was the Establishment futzing with the rules (e.g. in Florida and Michigan). Some will say it was his social conservatism. All of these people are wrong, especially the last group.

Santorum started this race last year as a long-shot candidate who was widely perceived as not representing all that many Republicans. He ended the race as a long-shot candidate, still perceived as not representing all that many Republicans, but who indisputably attracted solid, respectable support from a core Republican constituency. That's not a shot at him. When a "sure thing" collapses (ahem Hillary), that's news. When a long-shot doesn't quite make it to the finish line, that's just the expected outcome.

It's not like Santorum lost to some upstart that had barely been in politics or anything else before (again, Hillary). Santorum lost to the presumptive nominee, the one everyone thought was going to win. It was, as is typical for Republicans, simply Romney's turn; he paid his dues in 2008 and, no surprise, here he is in 2012. The good news for Santorum is that next time, whether that's 2016 or 2020, he'll have a strong claim for it being his turn.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 06:26 AM



Comments

1 Meh, I fear for the Republic. We were trying to drag Juan's sorry fanny across the finish line, too. Didn't work out well.

Posted by: Popcorn at April 11, 2012 06:32 AM (OOehk)

2 BamBam is strutting around like he is invincible. The smug is strong with that one.

Posted by: doom am I, full-ripe, dealing death to the worlds, engaged in devouring mankind. at April 11, 2012 06:39 AM (U1U+p)

3 Anybody awake yet?

Posted by: Mountainmonkey at April 11, 2012 06:39 AM (uXdJq)

4 Now we gotta do the same thing for Mutt. At least a lot of people are seriously disenchanted with the SCOAMF. We just have to hope that translates into R votes.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at April 11, 2012 06:40 AM (fuw6p)

5 Is this a chance for SMOD to start getting back into the game?

Posted by: Mountainmonkey at April 11, 2012 06:40 AM (uXdJq)

6
"The good news for Santorum is that next time, whether that's 2016 or 2020, he'll have a strong claim for it being his turn."

This is PRECISELY the problem with GOP politics. Why on earth are we still pickingn candidates based on whose turn it is?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 11, 2012 06:43 AM (fwARV)

7 Ugh. Early morning typos.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 11, 2012 06:45 AM (fwARV)

8 Santorum's living in a dream world. Next in line is Jeb.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at April 11, 2012 06:47 AM (fuw6p)

9 What kind of imbecile president thinks that going after the 400+ richest American citizens is a winning strategy?

Shouldn't he be focusing on Winning the Economy™?

Posted by: Fritz at April 11, 2012 06:50 AM (KWdVT)

10 Why does it seem so hard to find competant, appealing Republicans? I mean, it's a major political party and all. You'd think some effort might go in to creating and maintaining a bullpen?

Posted by: Popcorn at April 11, 2012 06:50 AM (OOehk)

11 You would think so Popcorn but evidently not.

Posted by: San Antonio Rose at April 11, 2012 06:52 AM (UCItN)

12 Syrian violence spilling into Lebanon and Turkey.

http://tinyurl.com/cu6pslw

Syrian government keeps lying to...Kofi Annan?

Are you freakin' serious?

THAT GUY is the negotiator?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

They're all doomed.

Posted by: Robert at April 11, 2012 06:56 AM (4ixH5)

13 1. Do you know anyone who voted for McCain who will vote for JEF in 2012? Fuck yeah. I have not heard of such a person.
2. Do you know anyone who voted for SCOAMF in 2008 who won't vote for him in 2012? Fuck yeah. In 4 weeks he gave people buyers remorse. Now...
3. Do you know any SCOAMF voters who are discouraged and won't show up at all? Yes, our starry eye dreamers lost hope and became cynical.
4. Do you know any MCCain voters who aren't fired up about voting in 2012? It was not like MCCain was a conservatives dream..Romney can't pull less than MCCain

Posted by: Why it is doom doom doom for barky and they know it. at April 11, 2012 06:59 AM (Vg4Vv)

14 Everyone keeps talking about Juan and how if we had just had the right candidate we would have won in 2008. Please tell us which of your dream candidates would have won.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 11, 2012 07:00 AM (mFxQX)

15 Obummer's brand of smokes...

http://tinyurl.com/7cxvyrc

Posted by: Robert at April 11, 2012 07:01 AM (4ixH5)

16 Good Morning Morons. Gabe posting early and I am getting up late. On this day in 1921 Iowa imposed the first tax on cigarettes.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:04 AM (YdQQY)

17
Obama sucks!

And I noticed this a couple of months ago: McConnell and Harry Reid's physical appearance seem to be converging. By the time they retire, they will look identical.

Posted by: Truman North at April 11, 2012 07:04 AM (I2LwF)

18 Government employees who planned the GSA taxpayer party were given bonuses for spending your money.

http://is.gd/RmIKYU

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:06 AM (YdQQY)

19
"McConnell and Harry Reid's physical appearance seem to be converging."

I've noticed the same tendency with the SCOAMF and Gollum.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 11, 2012 07:07 AM (d0Tfm)

20
From the McConnell ballwashing link:

Only three Republicans defected -- Scott Brown of MA, Susan Collins of ME, and Dean Heller of NE.

Great company you're keeping there, Dean Heller of Nebraska. Really top-shelf stuff.

Posted by: Truman North at April 11, 2012 07:09 AM (I2LwF)

21 Re tsunami:

Victor Sardina, a geophysicist on duty at the Hawaii-based center, said the total vertical measurement of the wave, according to monitoring gauges, was 35 cm (13.8 inches), making the height 17 cm (6.7 inches).

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 11, 2012 07:09 AM (phlKA)

22 You know... if I wrote for a blog, I would write about the onset of the Lloyd Dobler economy.

Posted by: Truman North at April 11, 2012 07:10 AM (I2LwF)

23 Christy says we are turning into couch potatoes waiting on a government check.

Perhaps given his weight issues he should find another saying.

http://is.gd/Eqkr7z

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:11 AM (YdQQY)

24 If Tetris has taught me anything, it's that errors pile up and accomplishments disappear.

Posted by: Truman North at April 11, 2012 07:14 AM (I2LwF)

25 Didn't that "JOBS ACT" have a bunch of non-job little poison pill shit in it?

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:15 AM (YdQQY)

26 I'm to the point where it's tough for me to cheer for the passage of any federal legislation, and very little on the state level.

Posted by: Truman North at April 11, 2012 07:16 AM (I2LwF)

27 Amazon has sold us out on this collecting State tax bullshit.

http://is.gd/3gUoQZ

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:19 AM (YdQQY)

28 It was, as is typical for Republicans, simply Romney's turn; he paid his dues in 2008 and, no surprise, here he is in 2012.

I think we confuse cause and effect. It isn't that Romney was selected by the aforementioned dark forces just because he ran in '08. It is that he made a good impression then, built on it, didn't make many mistakes, was fortunate in his choice of opponents, and has convinced folks that he is the best choice for the job this go around. Anyone who still bleats that he was a lock because of the "establishment" wasn't paying attention for the last year.

In '16 (although they won't be running until '20), there will be a particularly strong crop of new, charismatic leaders. I look forward to it. But let's win this year first.

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2012 07:20 AM (YXmuI)

29 McConnell looks like Madge from the old dishwashing liquid commercial. Reid looks like Granny Clampett. I fail to see how their appearances are converging. Any more than any other little old lady who was famous 40 years ago, I mean.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2012 07:21 AM (Gc/Qi)

30 Yawn, Been up all night. Glad to see I'm not the only one up at the crack of dawn or even earlier. I feel the need for bacon and coffee. And maybe some grits

Posted by: Katy Beth at April 11, 2012 07:21 AM (+yaP3)

31 If you want to operate a concession buisness on federal property you must be ready to show how you support Obama's green crap.

That is a violation of law, but who is counting anymore.

http://is.gd/E6wx6i

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:22 AM (YdQQY)

32 Whoever said that nothing is impossible clearly never tried to staple water to a tree.

Posted by: Truman North at April 11, 2012 07:22 AM (I2LwF)

33 A plethora of Mcconnell/Reid pictures at the link in my sig. Totally converging.

Posted by: Truman North at April 11, 2012 07:24 AM (I2LwF)

34 Remember that liberal idiot Bill Press? He has finally gone off the deep end, or perhaps he is just wanting some attention. He says the MFM is slanted to the right.

http://is.gd/y4p71x

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:24 AM (YdQQY)

35 It'll be interesting to see if Mitt's Candidate Destructo-Ray will be focused as tightly on the SCOAMF as it was on his Republicanrivals.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Seriously Considering Having a Guinness for Breakfast at April 11, 2012 07:25 AM (d0Tfm)

36 35
It'll be interesting to see if Mitt's Candidate Destructo-Ray will be
focused as tightly on the SCOAMF as it was on his Republicanrivals.


It has already moved to him. Wait, I thought Mitt was a feckless milque-toast who could never stand up to Obama.

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2012 07:27 AM (YXmuI)

37 Gary Johnson says the federal drinking age should be lowered or the law eliminated altogether. Personally I think it is unconsitutional and the Supreme Court ruling on this withholding of highway funds is bull shit.

If the States had any balls they would all withhold gas tax money when the feds started this shit at the behest of the prohibitionist MADD assholes.

http://is.gd/UT1Uos

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:27 AM (YdQQY)

38 Ol' Slow Joe Bidenalready looks like Jeff Dunham's Walter puppet.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Seriously Considering Having a Guinness for Breakfast at April 11, 2012 07:28 AM (d0Tfm)

39
Mitch McConnell is the reason why the Republicans will remain in the minority.

Posted by: soothie at April 11, 2012 07:31 AM (GcwH1)

40 NBC/ABC hype AGW scam despite increasing opposition due to people finally getting the message. There is no warming, it is all fraud and fake bullshit.

http://is.gd/KqwwdD

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:32 AM (YdQQY)

41 Back when Gabe was doing a daily Santorum Derangement Post, I remarked on how silly it was to direct so much vitriol toward someone who wasn't going to be the nominee anyway. Now that my point of view is proven right, Gabe claims it's what he expected all along.

So, WTF? All that bile directed at Santorum was for what, exactly?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 11, 2012 07:33 AM (gPDxp)

42 Is there any way to turn this whole thing into Obama saying, "Heck, I'll take an IQ test anytime!"

That would be awesome!

I hope I get 81 in the pool.

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at April 11, 2012 07:33 AM (SP/dK)

43 Didn't that "JOBS ACT" have a bunch of non-job little poison pill shit in it?


Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:15 AM (YdQQY)

You say that like that's a bad thing!What bill that makes it though Congress (with Dem and RINO help) doesn't have boatloads of poison pill crap in it. Just the authority for potential new regulations is astounding.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 11, 2012 07:34 AM (i3+c5)

44 Ahem,... It'll be my turn in 2016.

Posted by: Jeb Bush at April 11, 2012 07:34 AM (T9Koh)

45 As expected DC Board of Elections going after O'Keefe, not their corrupt voting system,

http://is.gd/yA6LO1

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:34 AM (YdQQY)

46 44
Ahem,... It'll be my turn in 2016.


I think not.

Posted by: Ryan, McConnell, Christie, Jindal, Daniels, etc. etc. at April 11, 2012 07:36 AM (YXmuI)

47 Aren't these the same "quality" officials that got their voting system hacked?


http://tinyurl.com/8ylzzdb


It isn't the stupidity, it is pointing out the stupidity that is criminal!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 11, 2012 07:38 AM (i3+c5)

48 Posted by: Ryan, McConnell, McDonnell, Christie, Jindal, Daniels, etc. etc. at April 11, 2012 07:36 AM (YXmuI)


???

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 11, 2012 07:39 AM (i3+c5)

49
What are the chances that George Zimmerman kills himself in the next week or so?

I think 50%.

Posted by: soothie at April 11, 2012 07:39 AM (vyPsz)

50 Bile. Bile, bile, bile. Just love the stuff. Bile.

Oh, wait. Why don't you point to some of this supposed bile? 'Cause I don't think it was as vitriolic as you "remember."

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at April 11, 2012 07:40 AM (ORFz2)

51 @48
Good catch. (worse yet, he's my governor)

Posted by: pep at April 11, 2012 07:40 AM (YXmuI)

52 Vic, I spent the weekend with some generally conservative men the past weekend and the buy in for the AGW crap was astounding. The general sentiment was that

Posted by: dogfish at April 11, 2012 07:41 AM (N2yhW)

53 49 former NASA scientists call out NASA for supporting AGW scam.

http://is.gd/LxN2Ok

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:42 AM (YdQQY)

54 ...at least a safety net should be in place. Arrrgh.

(Hate typing on a phone)

Posted by: dogfish at April 11, 2012 07:42 AM (N2yhW)

55
President O-bah-muhh is a good man. You'll have nothing to fear, when he is re-elected.

Posted by: Mitt Romney, who still suxeven though it's his turn at April 11, 2012 07:43 AM (T9Koh)

56 It isn't the stupidity, it is pointing out the stupidity that is criminal!


Posted by: Hrothgar at April 11, 2012 07:38 AM (i3+c5)


Stedman must be fast and furious that O'Keefe beclowned him so badly. The chinless skidmark has a huge ego as was illustrated when he whined that he wasn't getting enough credit for the "good things" he's accomplished in front of Issa's hearings. He'd rather eat dogshit than be ridiculed.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 11, 2012 07:44 AM (Cw+Gl)

57 Re my comment @ 38http://tinyurl.com/7jde8p4

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Seriously Considering Having a Guinness for Breakfast at April 11, 2012 07:44 AM (d0Tfm)

58 Posted by: pep at April 11, 2012 07:40 AM (YXmuI)



Well, Bitch McConnell is sooo outstanding as a fearless leader of the conservatives that it is a very understandable mistake!


/sarc

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 11, 2012 07:46 AM (i3+c5)

59 Nah, once you get past the glasses, the hand gestures, the dead look in the eyes, the resemblance falls apart. McConnell is too jowly, and Reid has that lean, hungry look that Caesar didn't care for.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2012 07:46 AM (Gc/Qi)

60 Ahem,... It'll be my turn in 2016.
Posted by: Jeb Bush at April 11, 2012 07:34 AM (T9Koh)

Like hell. You couldn't even use the Think Of The Judges!!! blackmail to get me to vote for another Bush.

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 11, 2012 07:49 AM (NVu2l)

61 Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2012 07:46 AM (Gc/Qi)


Well once people find out that Reid is a Mormon just like that evil Romney, they'll sing a different tune!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 11, 2012 07:50 AM (i3+c5)

62 Some more Byron York crap. Says Romney must win over the "right" and "Moderate Women".

He will never win over conservatives or moderate women. Moderate women will either vote for Obama again or they will sit at home. Conservatives may vote for him just like most did for McShitty in 2008, but he will not "win them over".

Remember, a "moderate" is simply a liberal in denial.

http://is.gd/z64yIZ

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:50 AM (YdQQY)

63
The next Democrat Distraction has arrived. It's homosexual 'marriage' again, this time in Nevada.

Posted by: soothie at April 11, 2012 07:51 AM (YO+5B)

64
I don't know about Gabe's posts, but it has really pissed me off to see all the stalwart Santorum supporters who didn't fucking exist 3 months ago.

Santorum's been in the campaign from the beginning and nobody said word fucking one about him until it was down to a three man race. And then it was to hail him as the True Conservative in the race.

Really? I'd think you'd have supported him from the beginning, then. I don't like Romney either, but I'm not about to ignore someone else's glaring deficiencies to soothe my ego.

See: Perry, Rick.

People did the same shit with Bachmann and Cain, defending those lunatic fuckups even past the point where THEY THEMSELVES admitted they were fuckups.

And now there's more petulance in the form of "this isn't the way to get my vote." FUCK. YOU.

No one is going to suck your dick to get you to vote for Romney, when they've had to man up to do it, themselves. If you're too stupid to take your medicine, then DIE.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 07:51 AM (JDIKC)

65 44 Ahem,... It'll be my turn in 2016.
Posted by: Jeb Bush at April 11, 2012 07:34 AM (T9Koh)


Try 2020, fat boy.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at April 11, 2012 07:52 AM (HLv97)

66 2016. My turn.

After 8 years of that fine man Obama, I'll look like Reagan.

Posted by: John McCain at April 11, 2012 07:52 AM (MMC8r)

67 Vic, I spent the weekend with some generally
conservative men the past weekend and the buy in for the AGW crap was
astounding. The general sentiment was that

Posted by: dogfish at April 11, 2012 07:41 AM (N2yhW)
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That what??? In any case, no conservative supports the AGW scam. They may claim to be conservatives but if they support AGW they are not.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:52 AM (YdQQY)

68 Hid inability to lose a fight, no matter how damaging, is what sunk him.

Also, his "priest collar on! priest collar off!" routine was not endearing at all.

Bad campaign. He could have easily done better by sticking to fusionist principles.

Posted by: HoboJerky at April 11, 2012 07:53 AM (dptRY)

69
By the time Romney and the Republicans get around to beating up Obama on gas prices it might be back under $3/gal.

Posted by: soothie at April 11, 2012 07:53 AM (NLH1M)

70
As expected DC Board of Elections going after O'Keefe, not their corrupt voting system,

http://is.gd/yA6LO1



Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:34 AM (YdQQY)

Embarrass bureaucrats and they will come after you - that is a basic law of government.

The fact that there is nothing to come after, as in this case, won't stop them. No bureaucrat in the history of government has ever been charged with malfeasance for wrongfully going after an individual.

To the bureaucratic mind - people who embarrass them have to be stopped, or the bureaucracy will become laughing stocks instead of occupying their "proper" position as feared rulers of the people.
Where exactly in the constitution does it say that we are to be ruled by bureaucrats?

Posted by: An Observation at April 11, 2012 07:54 AM (ylhEn)

71 Everyone keeps talking about Juan and how if we had just had the right candidate we would have won in 2008. Please tell us which of your dream candidates would have won.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 11, 2012 07:00 AM (mFxQX)

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If only someone had started putting some cocaine and testosterone pillsin Teh Fred!'s cornflakes maybe things would have been better. But yeah - it was a pretty bad field. No surprise. We had no farm league - no VP who could run. Cheney was great and all, but he was a dead end. Someone else should have been VP, at least in Bush term #2.

Posted by: Reactionary at April 11, 2012 07:54 AM (xUM1Q)

72
dogfish have a stroke in mid-comment?

Posted by: soothie at April 11, 2012 07:55 AM (ZgBZU)

73 64 Yes. Thank you. I haven't even read who said it but "this isn't the way to get my vote" bullshit is tiresome. Vote against Obama or you're voting for him.

Posted by: dagny at April 11, 2012 07:55 AM (CMM9V)

74 Damn, EoJ, two weeks in a row? I'm not sure I can live with it if we keep agreeing.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at April 11, 2012 07:55 AM (ORFz2)

75 MM calls for boycott of businesses who have bowed down to commie Van Jones.

http://is.gd/e8NpwI

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:57 AM (YdQQY)

76
I know, right, dagwood.

Not only are we supposed to court the independents, now we have to court disgruntled conservatives.

Posted by: soothie at April 11, 2012 07:58 AM (DlaLh)

77 It was, as is typical for Republicans, simply Romney's turn; he paid his dues in 2008 and, no surprise, here he is in 2012.Um, no. I get tired of hearing all this "it was his turn" shit. Are we talking about a presidential nomination or a game played by elementary school kids?
Maybe he won because he dropped MASSIVE negative ad bombs on anyone who threatened him, knowing they could not respond. And MAYBE he won because he outspent them on an average of 20 to 1. Yet he STILL couldn't get above 35% in most states.
My only hope is he'll drop the same bombs on the Bamster. Don't count on it, even though many of the ads simply write themselves. It'll be more of "he's a nice guy; he's just in over his head" bullshit. Hey, it's the Republican establishment way!!

Posted by: EV at April 11, 2012 07:59 AM (Mv/2X)

78 Add to that we also have to drag Mitt's ass across the finish line.

Posted by: soothie at April 11, 2012 08:00 AM (LVtr+)

79
In the main city of Banda Aceh, terrified residents screamed 'God is great!' as they jumped into cars and the backs of motorcycles, clogging streets as they fled to high ground.
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Oh is that what they screamed? Thanks for translating that, otherwise it would lead someone to remember that its also the war cry of terrorists.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 11, 2012 08:00 AM (UpwlP)

80 Dean Heller of Nebraska

that should be Nevada

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2012 08:00 AM (7FadD)

81 I don't think with the GOP there is a conscious effort to choose someone because it is "his turn." What happens is the second place finisher bows out and then goes to work getting enough support to win at the next opportunity.

That is what happened with McCain and Romney. It's also what Ronald Reagan did when he lost to Ford in 1976. Romney spent the time after the 2008 election helping Republicans in almost every state, campaigning and endorsing many of the people who are now in Congress or are governors.

Running against a sitting president is very difficult, and it requires tremendous amounts of money and organization. As we have seen with Governor Perry, you cannot start at the last minute. And as we have seen with both Santorum and Gingrich, you cannot mount a credible campaign if you are not organized and if you don't have enough money.

Romney recognized that early on and that is why he has won the nomination.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 11, 2012 08:00 AM (GoIUi)

82
@ Gabe.

Pfft. I can fix that:

I'm not agreeing with you, you're agreeing with me, RINO!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 08:00 AM (JDIKC)

83 21 Re tsunami: Victor Sardina, a geophysicist on duty at the Hawaii-based center, said the total vertical measurement of the wave, according to monitoring gauges, was 35 cm (13.8 inches), making the height 17 cm (6.7 inches).

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at April 11, 2012 07:09 AM (phlKA)


It's not the size, it's the motion of the ocean. Or something.

and, and, and.............Global Warming!

Posted by: Nash Rambler at April 11, 2012 08:00 AM (HLv97)

84
Either you want Obama gone in January or you can live with another 4 years of Obama.

Posted by: soothie at April 11, 2012 08:01 AM (vzLhi)

85 Morning 'Rons and 'Ettes. Spent the last few weeks moving cross country. I now have to get up extra early for Vic's morning news. Also I found out yesterday my new office at the student union is located directly next to the pool tables and the beer garden. How appropriate is that ???

Posted by: small town girl at April 11, 2012 08:02 AM (jNIw2)

86 While everybody throws EOJ wet kisses for coughing up that hairball-
Has it occurred to anyone that people may have come to Santorums camp as they learned more about him? Or that as the campaign wore on they chose what they thought was the most conservative candidate left in the dwindling field?

For me, I don't like any of the candidates much but I certainly found my sympathies leaning toward the candidates who were taking the most arrows of the moment. Its pretty laughable to be told how persuaded one should be by a feces flinging monkey like EOJ

Posted by: kdny at April 11, 2012 08:02 AM (63qg4)

87 Bwahahaa...my bosses son can't get badges/tickets to Comic-Con...SOLD OUT.He wants to take his 5year old son (big spiderman fan) Is Comic-Con appropriate for young children??
**

Morn' ya'll

Posted by: dananjcon at April 11, 2012 08:02 AM (eavT+)

88 Remember our old friend the Obama unemployment chart for "porkulous" Well, its back.

http://is.gd/vTx1PB


The problem is it doesn't have high enough boundaries. They use Obama numbers instead of real unemployment which is over 20%.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 08:02 AM (YdQQY)

89
Sorry folks, the phone decided I had typed enough.
I guess I should have qualified the conservative label as fiscally conservative and strong 2nd ammendent types. The misinformation the MFM spews is strong. The "saftety net" bullshit is what got me going though. Small government types are a definite minority.

Posted by: dogfish requesting a sanitation specialist at April 11, 2012 08:03 AM (N2yhW)

90 He will never win over conservatives or moderate women. Moderate women will either vote for Obama again or they will sit at home. Conservatives may vote for him just like most did for McShitty in 2008, but he will not "win them over".
Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:50 AM (YdQQY)

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I'm not sure I agree. Moderates are contemptible, but most of the moderate menthat I've met have been apolitical know-nothings, not Liberals per se. They just lack the stones/brains required to take a stand for what's right.
As for the moderate women, they'll vote for whichever candidate does the best job of making them slide off their chairs. If Mitt is more sexually attractive to them than Obie, then we win. I'm hoping that Mitt is a more manly character in their mindsthan Preznit MomJeans.

Posted by: Reactionary at April 11, 2012 08:04 AM (xUM1Q)

91 Moderates are people who can't make a decision and don't want to offend anyone. They like to "stay in the middle" so that they can appeal to all. I think they found this a winning strategy in high school popularity contests and have stuck with it. My sister can't even decide what to have for dinner. Dessert is a nightmare. She ends up with a little of everything.

Posted by: dagny at April 11, 2012 08:04 AM (CMM9V)

92 new office at the student union is located directly next to the pool tables and the beer garden. How appropriate is that ???
Posted by: small town girl at April 11, 2012 08:02 AM (jNIw2)
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With the exception of the snott nose kids...sounds like a dream job!

Posted by: dananjcon at April 11, 2012 08:05 AM (eavT+)

93 What kind of imbecile president thinks that going after the 400+ richest American citizens is a winning strategy?

Shouldn't he be focusing on Winning the Economy™?
Posted by: Fritz at April 11, 2012 06:50 AM (KWdVT) -------------------------------->The SCOAMF is going after cretin-vote. He is appealing to the feelings of envy and inadequacy that pervades the donk base.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 11, 2012 08:05 AM (M0NzJ)

94
41Back when Gabe was doing a daily Santorum Derangement Post, I remarked on how silly it was to direct so much vitriol toward someone who wasn't going to be the nominee anyway. Now that my point of view is proven right, Gabe claims it's what he expected all along.

So, WTF? All that bile directed at Santorum was for what, exactly?
50Bile. Bile, bile, bile. Just love the stuff. Bile.

Oh, wait. Why don't you point to some of this supposed bile? 'Cause I don't think it was as vitriolic as you "remember."Posted by: Gabriel Malor at April 11, 2012 07:40 AM (ORFz2) Lookit. What are we all doing here, if we're not allowed to rip people we don't like, and laud people we do like? Isn't that half the fun of politics?

Posted by: Truman North at April 11, 2012 08:06 AM (I2LwF)

95 Romney prevailed not because of "the establishment", but because he out-spent every other candidate (by a range of 3-1 to 6-1) in advertising.

But it's not just the advertising, it's the nature of the ads. Romney ads virtual all talked about why the other non-Romney candidate suck and had NO information about why anyone should vote FOR Romney (remember Reagan's 11th commandment?).

He better damn well use the negative strategy with the SCOAMT and not pull a McCain.

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at April 11, 2012 08:06 AM (sJKFk)

96 Liberal BI shows map of what is "affecting" the weather this spring. They should change this to past tense. It is gone now. High today here in SC is supposed to be 64.

http://is.gd/eJPsvC

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 08:07 AM (YdQQY)

97 My gut tells me Obama has lost the independents and he is therefore toast.

Posted by: real joe at April 11, 2012 08:07 AM (w7Lv+)

98 It's liberal puritanism. Liberals don't think rich people should have that much money. But certainly these Liberals aren't looking at themselves. No, they don't make enough!

Posted by: HoboJerky at April 11, 2012 08:07 AM (dptRY)

99 Also, note how they slipped that "climate" term in there in place of "weather".

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 08:07 AM (YdQQY)

100 That's it for the "news" this morning.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 08:09 AM (YdQQY)

101 "SCOAMF is going after cretin-vote. He is appealing to the feelings of envy and inadequacy that pervades the donk base.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 11, 2012 08:05 AM (M0NzJ)"
-----------All he can run on is pure marxist class warfare and Republicans stealing lady parts. He has to deflect attention away from what he is doing to the economy and the constitution.

Posted by: real joe at April 11, 2012 08:09 AM (w7Lv+)

102 23
Christy says we are turning into couch potatoes waiting on a government check.

Perhaps given his weight issues he should find another saying.

http://is.gd/Eqkr7z


Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:11 AM (YdQQY)
He's got to be at least a size 60, Portly suit. I mentioned this yesterday. He's always in a new suit. How can he govern NJ or even be considered for VP if he can't even control his own weight?

Posted by: dally at April 11, 2012 08:09 AM (oZfic)

103 Hobojerky-
Liberalism 101
He that has more than I do has too much.

Posted by: kdny at April 11, 2012 08:09 AM (63qg4)

104
No one is going to suck your dick to get you to vote for Romney...
CandidateMitt has thought of every contingency.

Posted by: Dick Suckers For Romney 2012 at April 11, 2012 08:09 AM (T9Koh)

105 A 5 year old at Comic Con? As long as he's weaned. The mammary gland display might confuse him otherwise.

Posted by: Alice's Clone Army at April 11, 2012 08:09 AM (5Q9pE)

106 ugh, formatting. It seems to be worse on IE8 than it was with IE7

Posted by: Truman North at April 11, 2012 08:10 AM (I2LwF)

107 Obama is spending an inordinate amount of time and crazy Axelrod strategery propping up his base. I'm wondering if he had to spin this Trayvon thing up just to get blacks interested? They didn't get their stash, I think their job numbers went down, their gas and cigarette prices went up, food prices went up.

And women, he's having to prop that base too. He's playing around on the far left and that doesn't appeal to the middle.

Posted by: dagny at April 11, 2012 08:10 AM (CMM9V)

108
@ kdny

You are exhibit A. Look at the butthurt you're marinating in. Who gives a shit about your feelings? Man up and vote for the nominee or watch Obama get re-elected - it's just that simple.

You had your fun flitting from dipshit to dipshit in the primaries because they Weren't Romney. Now it's nut cutting time. Romney I'd what you get. If you don't want him, Obama's your other choice.

Pick.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 08:11 AM (JDIKC)

109 So Christie in a large suit is governing less well than corruptocrat and their Corzine in a normal suit? Not likely. That makes sense to anyone other than that tyrant from last night's ont?

Posted by: dagny at April 11, 2012 08:13 AM (CMM9V)

110 I had a browser page cached that had a link to John Derbyshire's March Diary. It is still on National Review. My read, he's about to die. I think he decided to burn out instead of fade away.

Just from reading it, I'd say he thinks he has about six weeks.

Posted by: Blaster at April 11, 2012 08:13 AM (Fw2Gg)

111 He's got to be at least a size 60, Portly suit. I mentioned this yesterday. He's always in a new suit. How can he govern NJ or even be considered for VP if he can't even control his own weight?
Posted by: dally at April 11, 2012 08:09 AM (oZfic) I am definitely in the minority here, but I don't think that people with a vice or two are bad leaders. Being fat/a smoker/a womanizer is IMO just asoften about having greater than average passions as it is about having less-than-average discipline.In fact, many of the true womanizers I have known are also the most disciplined people I have known. It takes a lot of effort to be a successful cad.

Posted by: Truman North at April 11, 2012 08:13 AM (I2LwF)

112 He's got to be at least a size 60, Portly suit. I mentioned this yesterday. He's always in a new suit. How can he govern NJ or even be considered for VP if he can't even control his own weight?
Posted by: dally at April 11, 2012 08:09 AM (oZfic) I am definitely in the minority here, but I don't think that people with a vice or two are bad leaders. Being fat/a smoker/a womanizer is IMO just asoften about having greater than average passions as it is about having less-than-average discipline.In fact, many of the true womanizers I have known are also the most disciplined people I have known. It takes a lot of effort to be a successful cad.

Posted by: Truman North at April 11, 2012 08:13 AM (I2LwF)

113 um, I didn't double post that

Posted by: Truman North at April 11, 2012 08:14 AM (I2LwF)

114 My only hope is he'll drop the same bombs on the Bamster. Don't count on it, even though many of the ads simply write themselves.
Posted by: EV at April 11, 2012 07:59 AM (Mv/2X)

--------------

I share your hope, and am a little more optimistic. The hard part will be waiting for it to happen. You need to go positive in the early stages to build up the feeling that you're an OK guy. Then, toward the end, you drop the big bombs. It minimizes the enemy's ability to respond, and keeps it fresh in the voters' minds. And it needs to be ruthless.

Posted by: Reactionary at April 11, 2012 08:15 AM (xUM1Q)

115 Has it occurred to anyone that people may have come
to Santorums camp as they learned more about him? Or that as the
campaign wore on they chose what they thought was the most conservative
candidate left in the dwindling field?




Posted by: kdny at April 11, 2012 08:02 AM (63qg4)


No. I could never bring myself to vote for Santorum because he isn't a real conservative and he just creeps me out. He was kind of useful in an "anybody but Willard" kind of way but mostly he was just an irritating presence like a fly that's been feasting on shit heading for the picnic table. I voted for Noot in the primary and don't know what I'd have done if he hadn't been there. I'll vote for Willard in November because the alternative is a total fucking disaster. But he's far from a desirable candidate and hopefully the Tea Party candidates will gain enough clout elsewhere to send worthless fucks like Rove packing.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 11, 2012 08:15 AM (Cw+Gl)

116 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 08:16 AM (8y9MW)

117
"Obama is spending an inordinate amount of time and crazy Axelrod strategery propping up his base."

And the dirty little secret is that his base is a distinct minority of Americans. One of devil-worshipper Alinsky' Rules is "hide your numbers, make your enemy think there are many on your side."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Seriously Considering Having a Guinness for Breakfast at April 11, 2012 08:16 AM (d0Tfm)

118 Standing by for Jose Canseco's take on the earthquake.

Posted by: 0302 at April 11, 2012 08:16 AM (sRWlD)

119 look, about Chris Christie's weight:

you can't really be that fat for that long and not have some seriously screwed up genetics.


Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2012 08:16 AM (7FadD)

120 105 A 5 year old at Comic Con? As long as he's weaned. The mammary gland display might confuse him otherwise.
Posted by: Alice's Clone Army at April 11, 2012 08:09 AM (5Q9pE)
**
Pffft...I don't think he was ever breast fed. But he is arotten little spoiled brat; that should make for a great4hourflight and and eventfully-miserable weekend in beautiful San Diego for the boss. LOL.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 11, 2012 08:17 AM (eavT+)

121 If Ron Paul and Newt Gignrich are still in the race and the convention has not occurred yet, how can anyone say for sure that the nominee is romney? This I do not understand. Santorum didn't release his delegates, he suspended his campaign. He wasn't like Pawlenty or Perry, he didn't endorse someone else, ie, romney and newt. He just suspended. I know you are going to say the convention is a formality but really the way people are writing and thinking I wouldn't assume anything if I was in the romney crew, you never know what the palin crowd has up their sleeves.

Posted by: dally at April 11, 2012 08:17 AM (oZfic)

122 Wife cheating isn't a vice, it's a character flaw. If you can do that, you can cheat on everything else with aplomb, lie, steal, etc. It's your most intimate relationship and you don't value it after swearing that you would. Smoking, eating, et al are personal vices and really shouldn't effect others. Who cares what size suit he wears? Seriously, that's the same kind of information that appeals to the ashley judd puffy face junkies.

Posted by: dagny at April 11, 2012 08:18 AM (CMM9V)

123 I did a search on the "Jobs Act" to see if I could find those poison pill items in it. After reviewing many pages of Bing hits no can do.

I did find that the more liberal sites were uniformly opposed to it. So I guess that overall it must have been a fair bill.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 08:18 AM (YdQQY)

124 By the looks of that undisciplined double post, your dance card is sparsely populated Truman.


KIDDING!!!!!!

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at April 11, 2012 08:18 AM (SP/dK)

125
"In fact, many of the true womanizers I have known are also the most disciplined people I have known. It takes a lot of effort to be a successful cad."<<<

I'll choose "The rapists" for $400, Alex.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 11, 2012 08:18 AM (JDIKC)

126 Santorum will never be the GOP nominee. Too much young talent waiting in the wings....

Posted by: packsoldier at April 11, 2012 08:19 AM (9tLNI)

127 It ain't going to be the Reverend Santorum's turn next time around unless he learns to stay focused on issues that actually have something to do with being President.
I can't imagine him in a general election, prattling on about the evil of condoms and anal sex or whatever. He's certainly entitled to his own mind on those matters, but the voters really don't want to hear about it. The irony is, he presented himself as THE candidate that could best talk about Obamacare... but his candidacy inspired talk about everything BUT that.Lack of self-discipline to stay on message caused that to happen.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 11, 2012 08:19 AM (Iaxlk)

128 Posted by: CoolCzech at April 11, 2012 08:19 AM (Iaxlk)

And if he couldn't discipline himself now, no way in the general could he.

Posted by: HoboJerky at April 11, 2012 08:24 AM (dptRY)

129
Obama is spending an inordinate amount of time and crazy Axelrod
strategery propping up his base. I'm wondering if he had to spin this
Trayvon thing up just to get blacks interested? They didn't get their
stash, I think their job numbers went down, their gas and cigarette
prices went up, food prices went up.




Posted by: dagny at April 11, 2012 08:10 AM (CMM9V)


I haven't figured out what his end game is in the Saint Trayvon minstrel show other than his egomaniacal need to make every fucking thing about himself. He's had plenty of opportunities to tell the hucksters and rabble-rousers to calm down and be the post-racial person he campaigned as and he's dropped the fucking ball at every instance. He may have figured out that he's history in November so he may as well trash the hell out of everything on the way out.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 11, 2012 08:25 AM (Cw+Gl)

130 >>Wife cheating isn't a vice, it's a character flaw.

Some see it as the code of conduct, just don't knowingly hit on a fellow members wife.

Posted by: sTevo at April 11, 2012 08:26 AM (VMcEw)

131 America's Debt Is Greater than Entire Eurozone's (and U.K.'s) Combined Debt (Weekly Standard article in link)

http://tinyurl.com/d3ayhmo

And yet the left sees absolutely no problem with potentially repeating the actions of Weimar era Germany and Zimbabwe. They're brilliant

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at April 11, 2012 08:28 AM (sJKFk)

132 @ EOJ

You don't read well. I said never had a candidate that I was all in for and have always been ABO in the end. My problem is with your retarded idea of persuasion.
As to emotions, what does it serve now to crap on people you wish to vote your way and now have no choice but to do so or stay home.
You are a typing emotional outburst.
You remind of my teen son, too smart to act in such a stupid fashion.

Posted by: kdny at April 11, 2012 08:28 AM (63qg4)

133 Fucking Christie needs a triple post all for himself. Fat fuck.

Posted by: Frank Castle don't wear no sissy costume at April 11, 2012 08:29 AM (0TdUk)

134 All he can run on is pure marxist class warfare and Republicans stealing lady parts. He has to deflect attention away from what he is doing to the economy and the constitution.
Posted by: real joe at April 11, 2012 08:09 AM (w7Lv+) ----------------------------------->Right, the chart that Vic links in post #88 is going to sink the SCOAMF.While Vic has a valid point that the U-3 category is tainted, the SCOAMF regime can't get those unemployment numbers down fast enough even though they're cooking the books.- >Romney needs to beat the SCOAMF repeatedly over the head with that chart and tell the squishes, "Obama's a nice guy, but he's listening to the wrong people -- this is what they promised and this is what actually happened." The hardcore leftists aren't going to vote for Romney but I think a lot of squishes want to be convinced that they weren't credulous fools taken in by a Marxist flim-flam man.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at April 11, 2012 08:30 AM (M0NzJ)

135
Time to put on the big-boy pants.
You can either whine about Romney or work like a mofo to evict the marxist.
Bottom line: every day Hussein sits in the white house our nation is defiled. Romney will not defile the nation. And who knows, he may be better than we hoped for.
I have the mental image of Chrissy Matthews sputtering about how the nation rejected its south-side savior.
Ogabe must go.

Posted by: DeepBeam at April 11, 2012 08:32 AM (19uT8)

136
Wifey and I crashed and burned on the lawn mower quest yesterday.

Are there any Moronette 'Zero Turn' testimonials in the house?

Posted by: sTevo at April 11, 2012 08:32 AM (VMcEw)

137
"I haven't figured out what his end game is in the Saint Trayvon minstrel show other than his egomaniacal need to make every fucking thing about himself."

It's meant to do several things at once: distract the country's attention away from the economy, mobilize his base, stir up more class warfare and divide the nation even more.

He's going down hard in November, and he and the AxelBeast know it, which is what you said. May as well leave as much destruction in his wake as possible.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Seriously Considering Having a Guinness for Breakfast at April 11, 2012 08:32 AM (d0Tfm)

138 On choosing candidates I see two MAJOR problems. First and foremost, the absolutely stupid RNC rules for the primaries and their order. And second, far too manu people who are otherwise ok listen to the MFM and its attacks on conservative candidates.


During the 2008 campaign they went after teh Fred with that BS fire in the belly meme. It was all made up hype but people believed it. The best event I saw during the campaign was when that asshole Wallace went after Fred with that fire in the belly stuff and Fred ripped off his head and shit down his neck.


This time it was racists rocks and bull shit debates with no questions worth a shit.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 08:34 AM (YdQQY)

139 5 years old is too young for Comic-Con. He will be bored after an hour. Dad, on the other hand, may really enjoy it.


Posted by: Jimbo at April 11, 2012 08:38 AM (O3R/2)

140 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at April 11, 2012 08:38 AM (7W3wI)

141 Vic, I would say that too many placed too much emphasis on words instead of records. If people had looked at actual accomplishments and management styles, Perry would have been up there with Romney and the rest wouldn't have lasted past South Carolina.

Instead, everyone on blogs concentrated on words, debate answers, what the MSM SAID, intereviews, etc.

I just never understood this. We KNOW that speeches do not a good president make, yet we went all nuts over Gardisil and a brain freeze and such.

Anyway, here we are. I agree that the primary schedule should be revised. Michael Steele is responsible for much of the current mess. Apparently he was AIMING for a brokered convention for "TV excitement" or something.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 11, 2012 08:40 AM (GoIUi)

142 I'm seriously lacking motivation today... I'm slowly coming to terms with a Romney Candidacy, and he's said things in the last couple of days that make me hate his guts a little less, but it'll probably take a couple of weeks before I can say "Romney for President!" with a straight face.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 08:41 AM (8y9MW)

143 The gov't is suing Warren Buffett's NetJets over taxes.

They're seeking $366 million in taxes and penalties.
NetJets caters to "millionaires and billionaires" the people that SCOAMT and his rat bastard ukelele playing crony Buffett says should pay more in taxes.

http://tinyurl.com/clbn9jr

Posted by: Lurkasaurus at April 11, 2012 08:45 AM (sJKFk)

144 125 "In fact, many of the true womanizers I have known are also the most disciplined people I have known. It takes a lot of effort to be a successful cad."<<<
Really? Even THAT is hard work, huh? Man, nothing in life is easy... not even a urine-soaked body cavity on some stranger in a smoke-filled bar.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 11, 2012 08:45 AM (Iaxlk)

145 Vic, I would say that too many placed too much emphasis on words instead of records.

Yeah, but that was the case in 2008 as well. I'm not sure it wasn't the case in 2000 (though, I supported GWB then, too, so I'm not complaining about that outcome). I suspect it will be the problem until we end near-universal suffrage.

I don't have a problem with women voting, but I do have a problem with low-information voters voting.

Voting should be a revered activity- one we approach with as much seriousness as other major decisions or activities. And, yet, there are too many people who wait until the day before the election (if then) to do any research at all, and some who don't even do that, but just show up at the polls and vote for a letter, or a name they recognize.

I'm not sure how to fix that, but I'm dang sure it needs to be fixed.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 08:45 AM (8y9MW)

146 So, if they have a major Tsunami in indonesia, who would really give a fat rat's ass?

Posted by: maddogg at April 11, 2012 08:45 AM (OlN4e)

147
MOAR BUTTHURT PLZ.

So I'm an illiterate shit flinging monkey who reminds you of your stupid son.

At least you're not being emotional.

No, seriously. I don't fucking care about your feelings. And I'm not trying to persuade you, because you'll either put on some dry Huggies and vote against Obama or you won't.

I'm just calling it like I see it. Agree or don't. Just quit whining.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 11, 2012 08:46 AM (zacpj)

148 So, if they have a major Tsunami in indonesia, who would really give a fat rat's ass?

Me. I have an Uncle over there.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 08:46 AM (8y9MW)

149 AllenG, the way I cope is just tell myself he isn't Juan McSCOAMFslurper.

Posted by: dogfish at April 11, 2012 08:46 AM (N2yhW)

150 142 I'm seriously lacking motivation today... I'm slowly coming to terms with a Romney Candidacy, and he's said things in the last couple of days that make me hate his guts a little less, but it'll probably take a couple of weeks before I can say "Romney for President!" with a straight face.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 08:41 AM (8y9MW)


Your assimiliation is coming quite nicely, Four of Seven.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 11, 2012 08:46 AM (Iaxlk)

151 Rape sock off.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 08:47 AM (zacpj)

152 Santorum was the least charismatic of the remotely acceptable NotRomney candidates who stayed in, which is the principal reason he made it so far. If Yawnplenty had stayed in, it would have been him dropping out yesterday.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 11, 2012 08:47 AM (nzXY9)

153 151 Rape sock off.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 08:47 AM (zacpj)


That definitely sounds like a good idea, Jeff.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 11, 2012 08:47 AM (Iaxlk)

154 AllenG, the way I cope is just tell myself he isn't Juan McSCOAMFslurper.

I've been trying that since it was apparent he'd be the nominee (has that only been about 4 weeks? Jeez), and it hasn't been working.

On the other hand, almost every day the SCOAMT comes out with yet more SCOAMTiness, and I get a little bit more comfortable with Romney.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 08:48 AM (8y9MW)

155 Anyway, here we are. I agree that the primary
schedule should be revised. Michael Steele is responsible for much of
the current mess. Apparently he was AIMING for a brokered convention for
"TV excitement" or something.


Posted by: Miss Marple at April 11, 2012 08:40 AM (GoIUi)


Really? How did that happen? I mean that seriously and in a non-snarky way because you seem to know wtf you're talking about. I thought Steele was a fuck up but mainly because he was in over his head and generally had good intentions although I may have underestimated his stupidity. Also can Reince Priebus fix it? My opinion is the primary season is too fucking long and the length serves as too great of a barrier to entry for a lot of people that Lord Rove doesn't bless with the keys to the royal mint. And dipshit states like Iowa and New Hampshire need to STFU and go to the back of the line.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 11, 2012 08:49 AM (Cw+Gl)

156 No, Gabe, the last group is correct, although it had to have the unfortunate pairing (grouping?) with lack of discretion, and a most unpleasant angry-smile demeanor to really sink him a fondness for government intervention where there should be none, to sink him with his party, although he was always sunk with the general electorate.

He was a bad bad bad bad candidate on many levels. A NotRomney was SO desirable that when there was panic at the disco about Newt reaching threat-level, and a week was spent in concerted effort to knock back that threat to Romney, that a double down on the Santorum horror show was the only possible result. Stupid move in my view. It was a waste of time and effort, he could never never win the general and he was very very energizing to the other side, repellant to a large segment of his own side, and was not going to win or say anything good for the brand. He was ten times as undisciplined as Newt, could never resist baiting, and was really a flip side of Obama with regard to his not very strong regard for limited government.

Romney's awful but I hope Obama is so much worse that ordinary people will switch horses in frustration at his promises of more of the same "guidance" to a world of high energy costs and fantasy employment schemes and shady dealing green adventures. Romney's what we're stuck with. Maybe kill Newt week was a bad choice.

Posted by: Sarahw at April 11, 2012 08:49 AM (LYwCh)

157 Mornin', y'all.

Every heard of pokeweed?

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 11, 2012 08:49 AM (XdlcF)

158 "Why on earth are we still pickingn candidates based on whose turn it is?"

Because the voters keep voting for them?

I find all this "it was his turn" stuff to be kind of silly. Romney got more people to vote for him than Santorum and Newt did. It's not that complicated. If you are going to be mad, be mad at the 2/3rds of the GOP who vote for "the next guy in line".

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 11, 2012 08:49 AM (9t6jP)

159 sorry edit fail

Posted by: Sarahw at April 11, 2012 08:50 AM (LYwCh)

160 I thought Steele was a fuck up but mainly because he was in over his
head and generally had good intentions although I may have
underestimated his stupidity.


I can certainly believe it. Steele seemed to buy too deeply into the idea of "Politics as Spectacle." He seemed to think that politics needed to be "exciting" to get people to pay attention.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 08:50 AM (8y9MW)

161 Bambi looks seriously stressed to me. In the speech yesterday he was hyperventilating and licking his lips. Not the look of a man who thinks he's cruising to four more years.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 11, 2012 08:50 AM (nzXY9)

162 Bitch McConnell is one of the people that let the gutting of my Army happen. They are cutting 90 k, they are reviewing a lot of e6 and over for separation, they have cut recruitment to shit.

Congrats for your years of service and welcome back from overseas, now get the fuck out good luck finding a job.

Fuck Bitch McConnell

Posted by: Mr Pink at April 11, 2012 08:50 AM (DtsW1)

163 Everyone is going to vote for Romney in hopes he and the Rs in congress don't return to the big spending ways of the early 2000s. If they do, don't ask again. The answer will be, "Fool me three times and you can take your lying party and die in a fire."

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 11, 2012 08:51 AM (NVu2l)

164 If you are going to be mad, be mad at the 2/3rds of the GOP who vote for "the next guy in line".

I am.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 08:51 AM (8y9MW)

165 #145 I think we should get some think tank to have TV contests about civics, politics, and the Constitution.

Like Jeopardy. With cash prizes.

People would have to qualify by passing an entrance exam, and if you had a jackpot of over $1 million you would get a lot of interest. Seriously, if we had an incentive to get people to learn this stuff then we would get a lot more people educated.

Plus people could get to be on TV! This is apparently a huge incentive with a large number of Americans.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 11, 2012 08:51 AM (GoIUi)

166 The best candidate ran the best campaign and got the best result. Now I'll wait for Rush Limbaugh to call the millions of veterans, small business owners, regular joes, etc. who voted for Romney "The Establishment", while he plans his next luncheon with Congressional leadership.

Posted by: lincolntf at April 11, 2012 08:52 AM (hiMsy)

167 Someone pointed out something above. I don't think any of the potential candidates in 2008 would have won, given the conditions on the ground. McCain had St. Sarah on the ticket and lost. Would a Fred Thompson have been able to win?

The Dems had a perfect storm in 2008. They won't in 2012.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 11, 2012 08:53 AM (9t6jP)

168 Yeah, but that was the case in 2008 as well. I'm not sure it wasn't the
case in 2000 (though, I supported GWB then, too, so I'm not complaining
about that outcome). I suspect it will be the problem until we end
near-universal suffrage.
-------------------


Bush II ran as a "conservative" in the primaries and then turned around in the general and went to the left. That is to be expected. The problem was he never moved back to the right.



He is probably equally responsible for Obama winning in 2008 as McShitty.


But go back and look at our candidates since RR who I have come to realize won by a fluke. Just about every candidate we have had has been a damn "moderate". And we have won only when the Dems put up a candidate who was even more shitty than ours.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 08:53 AM (YdQQY)

169 284 Days Until We Evict the SCOAMF

Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 11, 2012 08:53 AM (nzXY9)

170 156 100% agree with your take on Santorum but Newt was never viable either.

Posted by: steevy at April 11, 2012 08:53 AM (7W3wI)

171 Kinda proved you don't retain what you read all that well with the "put on your huggies" stuff ya dope.

How many times would I have to write that I will vote for anybody but Obama before you got it?

You flail about doing damage to your own cause.

Posted by: kdny at April 11, 2012 08:54 AM (63qg4)

172 The answer will be, "Fool me three times and you can take your lying party and die in a fire."

I so hope this is correct. It's time for an actual Conservative party again- and the GOP just isn't it anymore. Unfortunately, we also can't afford to wait 4 more years to stop the SCOAMT, so we're stuck with them.

Maybe if Romney wins in November, we can immediately start laying the groundwork to get some actual Conservatives sent to DC. The best way to make that happen (but this is so far fetched I hesitate to mention it) is to get some of the "Real Conservatives" in Congress (Jim DeMint, for example, or Paul Ryan, etc.) to switch to whatever the new party is.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 08:54 AM (8y9MW)

173 The good news for Santorum is that next time, whether that's 2016 or 2020, he'll have a strong claim for it being his turn.

The system works!

Posted by: Prince Charles at April 11, 2012 08:55 AM (FcR7P)

174 It's Mitt or Soetero.

No, Mitt's not gonna fix things, but he won't break things as bad. So I'll vote for him but I'm not going to the mattresses for him. He doesn't need me to, which suits me fine.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 11, 2012 08:56 AM (arJin)

175 Captain Hate, Steele gave an interview a couple of months ago in which he BRAGGED about the new primary schedule. I am sorry I don't have the link. I think the idea was to prevent another McCain-like candidacy. I don't have the link on that but will try to look for it and post it on this thread later today.

As far as Preibus and the RNC, he has done a pretty good job in getting things back on track and raising money. Here is a link to an article in the Washington Times about the revitalized RNC:

http://tinyurl.com/6wsrg2b

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 11, 2012 08:56 AM (GoIUi)

176 Would a Fred Thompson have been able to win?

I don't know that he would have won, but I do expect he would have helped mitigate the shellacking we took on down-ticket races.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 08:56 AM (8y9MW)

177 Pokeweed.

Poke salad.

There's a festival, parade, pageant.

I'm backing away slowly, but might take the kids to the carnival.

Link in my name, not because you really want to know, but because you are hoping I'm making this up.

Next up, Oil City "Gusher Days".

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 11, 2012 08:57 AM (XdlcF)

178 It's time for an actual Conservative party again- and the GOP just isn't it anymore.
-----------------------


It never has been a "conservative party". It has been controlled by the Rockefeller wing since the FDR days.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 08:57 AM (YdQQY)

179 good morning........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 11, 2012 08:57 AM (Ho2rs)

180 Hillary Clinton spoke bluntly about Syria, North Korea and the death of Osama bin Laden
at the U.S. Naval Academy Tuesday, where as the keynote speaker at the
close of aforeign policy conference she revealed that none of those
watching the operation that killed the al Qaeda leader last year "could
breathe for 30-35 minutes."
As she gave a play-by-play account of the day Bin Laden was killed, she
recalled how none of the officials in the room watching the operation,
including President Obama, "could breathe for 30-35 minutes."




They should try not breathing until they get it right

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 11, 2012 08:58 AM (1Jaio)

181 The whole blog went anti-Santorum, iirc, not just Gabe.
Santorum didnt fit with the HQ lifestyle. I thought it was over the top as well.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at April 11, 2012 08:59 AM (5H6zj)

182 Forget this bullshit about "The Buffet rule = only 400 taxpayers." It will never be understood by the target audience, those almost fifty percent who don't pay at all.

And it has morphed into something else.

Zero is screaming now about how anybody making a million should pay. That sounds to me like a million gross, and that is a whole lot more people than that tiny sample at the very top.

He is going to double down on this and make it a central issue, particularly after his sidekick Harry Reid strongarms enough senate votes to pass something so the R house majority can vote it down.

You ain't heard nothing yet.

Posted by: MyVoteDon'tCountInF*ckingNY at April 11, 2012 08:59 AM (PH+2B)

183 180 Armchair heroes.

Posted by: steevy at April 11, 2012 08:59 AM (7W3wI)

184 It never has been a "conservative party". It has been controlled by the Rockefeller wing since the FDR days.

Meh. It may have been controlled by the Rockefeller wing since then (and control was the right word, then, too), but they were still fairly conservative. I think Old Man Rockefeller must be spinning in his grave at the kinds of things the country has done since his day.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:00 AM (8y9MW)

185 181 Santorum just plain rubs me the wrong way.I am not alone.

Posted by: steevy at April 11, 2012 09:00 AM (7W3wI)

186 MM calls for boycott of businesses who have bowed down to commie Van Jones.

http://is.gd/e8NpwI



Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 07:57 AM (YdQQY)



What gets me is there's maybe 100 paid protesters and these corporations shit themselves over it. I know the MFM will turn up some heat but they should just tell the Van Jones of the world to go fuck themselves and this intimidation will stop

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 11, 2012 09:01 AM (1Jaio)

187 184 Vic was a registered Whig as a young man.

Posted by: steevy at April 11, 2012 09:01 AM (7W3wI)

188 none of the officials in the room watching the operation,

including President Obama, "could breathe for 30-35 minutes."



I know it's hyperbole, but that's just so stupid. I'd love for her (and the SCOAMT) to try not breathing for 30 - 35 minutes. I'd even sell popcorn.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:02 AM (8y9MW)

189 152 Santorum was the least charismatic of the remotely acceptable NotRomney candidates who stayed in, which is the principal reason he made it so far.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 11, 2012 08:47 AM (nzXY9)


I think we agree. My take is Santorum wasthe fifth or sixth choiceto beNotRomney. The reason he lasted was becausethere were no other NotRomney candidates left to turn to.

Posted by: Nash Rambler at April 11, 2012 09:02 AM (HLv97)

190 The Republican Party needs to do some major revisions. On the Primary side it should either set the schedule order by percentage of vote for Republican in the last Presidential election where the "most red State" goes first and blue States last. Or it needs to go to a nationwide same day national vote in 3 stages where after each stage the bottom candidates drop out. No more running around truing to spend money to get on ballots which favors the "establishment" candidates and rich".

The other thing it needs to do is oust the "moderates" in leadership positions. But I fear neither one of these tings is going to happen.

And I still maintain if Romney loses this election it will be the end of the Republican Party.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:02 AM (YdQQY)

191 Mama AJ, I thought it was polkweed/polk salad all these years. Learned something new today.

Posted by: dogfish at April 11, 2012 09:03 AM (N2yhW)

192 I'm just calling it like I see it. Agree or don't. Just quit whining.

Take a pill...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at April 11, 2012 09:03 AM (uehxp)

193 And I still maintain if Romney loses this election it will be the end of the Republican Party.

And no guarantee that it won't be if he wins.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:04 AM (8y9MW)

194
>>>>I think we agree. My take is Santorum wasthe fifth or sixth choiceto
beNotRomney. The reason he lasted was becausethere were no other
NotRomney candidates left to turn to.<<<<


This. We are simply left with Romney. I will vote for him but no amount of spittle flecked, red faced, bitchy internet screaming will make me overjoyed about it.

Posted by: kdny at April 11, 2012 09:06 AM (63qg4)

195 This was kind of an interesting exchange I heard on Rush this morning (I listen to the podcasts while driving):

"The only thing I can tell you, Ken, is that Romney came by here in January. I think it was the 13th, the middle of the month. And I met with him after the show. It was about 4:30. I met with him for almost an hour, and he left here for a huge fundraiser a mile down the road, mile and a half. And during that conversation -- I've mentioned this to you -- he said to me that he wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being a one-term president because he's got to shake things up. This country can't go the direction it's going or his children and grandchildren and nobody else's will have a future. When he was talking about that, he sounds just like you and me.

He sounds just like you and me when we talk about it. He was very affirmative in his acknowledgement to me of the threats posed by Obama and the Democrats to this country. If you had been in that conversation, you would not have doubted his conservatism at that moment. But then you would read where he has said in years past, "Look, I'm not a conservative. I'm not one of these," and you'd scratch your head. I'm not saying it wiped any of those other instances out. I'm just telling you that that day, he sounded like me. He was fairly echoing the fears I have about what's in store for this country if the Democrats are not stopped. This transformation, this belief that our founding was unjust and immoral and we've had a fraudulent country for 200-plus years."


The "one term president" statement was very interesting. I wonder if he would be willing to step aside if his popularity was in the toilet because of the structural changes to entitlements he makes? (hypothetical)

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 11, 2012 09:06 AM (9t6jP)

196 >>Learned something new today.

I apologize for my part in that. I know that's not what we come here for. At least it wasn't math...

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 11, 2012 09:07 AM (XdlcF)

197 One other thing to keep in mind. Way back in the dark ages of this primary season some were predicting a third Party run by more conservative tea party types if Romney got the nod.


We need to be on the look out for that now.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:07 AM (YdQQY)

198 @185
Not my guy either, but the frenzy when he became a threat was over the top. As for rubbing the wrong way, most of them do on some level. Mitt really does for me but I cant allow myself the luxury of voting bssed on that.

I just think more would have been accomplished in terms of moving Mitt to the right had there been less demonization and more analysis of all the candidates. Once ace switched to Mitt there was almost a complete shut down of criticism or even analysis directed at him except in the comments or the occasional sidebar. As a result Mitt moved less to the right than he might have.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at April 11, 2012 09:07 AM (5H6zj)

199 http://tinyurl.com/6q54w2f
"Huge quake triggers Indian Ocean tsunami alert"

Posted by: dally at April 11, 2012 09:08 AM (oZfic)

200 197 Doesn't look like it's going to happen.Unless the Dems manufacture one.

Posted by: steevy at April 11, 2012 09:08 AM (7W3wI)

201 Santorum was a solid candidate, just let the MFM drag him off into social issues too much. He used to substitute on the Bill Bennet radio show every Friday and he was smart on many subjects such as foreign policy. Well, I guess all we can hope for is that Romney will fight, unlike that schmuck McVain.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at April 11, 2012 09:10 AM (UU0OF)

202 If Barry fails me, I'm taking the White House curtains with me!

Posted by: Michelle at April 11, 2012 09:11 AM (FcR7P)

203
Well, which am I?

An insignificant hairball-spitting monkey that nobody should listen to, or

A Danger to The Cause?

Pick ONE, dipshit. Then go get your fuckin shinebox. You're terrible at this. Pro-tip, Megamind: if your self-worth wasn't completely tied to your fucking political choices, you wouldn't have assumed my first post was aimed at you personally.

For someone who lauds himself as a dispassionate pragmatist, you sure spend a lot of time trying to put me in my place, telling everyone I'm a barely literate, childish shit-flinger with a huge penis.

THEY ALREADY KNOW THAT.

Again, thank you for validating my first post, by assuming it was written with you in mind.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 09:11 AM (zacpj)

204 Geraghty tweets that the WaPo refers to the 15% rate on cap gains as a "loophole," falling right in line with the WH spin on things.

The almost 50 percent that don't pay at all nod their heads, "yeah, fucking loophole."

It is working.

And so will the JEF's spin on the unelected partisan SCOTUS majority that will strike down his lovely "ACA."

Posted by: MyVoteDon'tCountInF*ckingNY at April 11, 2012 09:11 AM (PH+2B)

205 Well, it was a mistake that no one ever asked Rick what kind of tree he would be. I'm thinking... number 3, the Larch.

Posted by: Baba Wawa at April 11, 2012 09:11 AM (S7ZyK)

206 The more I watch Obama and his bi-polar appearances, the more I think he is doing cocaine again.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 11, 2012 09:12 AM (9t6jP)

207 197 Doesn't look like it's going to happen.Unless the Dems manufacture one.

I've seen the name Garry Johnson in the news lately- isn't he the former NM Governor who briefly ran for the R Nod, but dropped out early and is running as a Libertarian?

We have everything the MFM needs to generate a "Legitimate 3rd Party" right there- Guy with some actual name recognition (in the right circles), ran for a major party nomination, and held registration in that Party. Doesn't seem "bitter" about a loss in the primaries (I think he dropped out before any actual primaries had been held), and is now running for a party that people have at least heard of. How hard do you think it would be for the MFM to leave out some of the more kooky things in the Libertarian Platform until, oh, say, October?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:12 AM (8y9MW)

208 The reason McCain was the nominee in '08 was that everyone thought it was going to be a foreign policy election and he was trusted the most on foreign policy. This year, everyone thinks it's going to be an economy election and Romney is trusted most on the economy.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 11, 2012 09:13 AM (nzXY9)

209 Thanks for the comment and link, Miss Marple. I understand why Steele said what he did but for me it's 100% wrong. Talking politics takes me away from doing something far more productive with my life. Unfortunately it's what the other side wastes their excuses for lives on because that's what they like. But then they up the ante by electing a complete dumbass like the JEF and make it of utmost importance to get him the fuck out of office so sanity can prevail.


Maybe a boring candidate like Willard of the Latter Days is what I need. In Priebus I trust.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 11, 2012 09:14 AM (Cw+Gl)

210 We have pokeweed along our fence line. It grows like bamboo, but with huge leaves. I looked up it's properties a while ago, and apparently it's toxic until it's been boiled, and then it's a local delicacy.

Posted by: lincolntf at April 11, 2012 09:15 AM (hiMsy)

211 Noot on Fox now.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:16 AM (YdQQY)

212 He is NOT dropping out.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:16 AM (YdQQY)

213 vic

thanks for the warning........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 11, 2012 09:16 AM (Ho2rs)

214
I just don't know about Santorum,
It seems to me he did lose at least partially on the SoCon thing. I mean this just isn't an election cycle condusive to SoCons at all. Note that Romney has stayed away from from whevever possible. Those who dipped their toes into the water of Social issues got stuck. I think a lot of this will hindge on what happens after this election. Talking about Canidates in general here not just presidential Regardless of who wins, if the economy is still in the tubes 4 years from now (God forbid!) then SoCons will still be on the outs. If the Economy is back booming, SoCons have an opening.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 11, 2012 09:16 AM (SYrwI)

215 Maybe a boring candidate like Willard of the Latter Days is what I need. In Priebus I trust.

And I find myself more and more incensed at things going on locally. If I'm not careful, I'll end up faithfully attending local Tea Party meetings (I've got too much stuff to do as it is, dang it!), and from there running for City Council or something similarly silly.

Well, silly for someone like me who is all too willing to answer questions with, "Don't be stupid. Next question."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:17 AM (8y9MW)

216 Newt is already bouncing $500 checks but he's staying in!

Posted by: steevy at April 11, 2012 09:17 AM (7W3wI)

217 He is NOT dropping out.

How the heck is he not dropping out? He can't even clear a check in UT to get on the primary ballot. He is Out. Of. Money.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:18 AM (8y9MW)

218 Morning, all!

So, what do y'all think about Bobby Petrino getting fired from Arkansas? I honestly don't give a hoot about college football, but Petrino has been involved in so many big and small scandals throughout his career that I honestly wonder if he'll ever get another high profile coaching position. I still remember his ignoble departure from the Atlanta Falcons. Hell, I don't even LIKE the Falcons, but that was a truly epic dick move.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 11, 2012 09:18 AM (4df7R)

219 Newt's ego, simultaneously on CNN right now.

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at April 11, 2012 09:18 AM (SP/dK)

220 This year, everyone thinks it's going to be an economy election and Romney is trusted most on the economy.

So, you're saying we put up McCain, and they got to totally fuck the economy. Now we put up Romney, so there's some deep foreign policy shit coming our way?

Posted by: t-bird at April 11, 2012 09:18 AM (FcR7P)

221 So, what do y'all think about Bobby Petrino getting fired from Arkansas?

I think the Aggies are really happy about it.

I also think it was the right thing to do. Your Head Football Coach represents you, as a University, when he's doing the kinds of things Bobby-P did, and getting away with it, it says bad things about your university.

Despite that, I suspect they only fired him after a large number of alumni called up and explained that he could go, or their checks could.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:20 AM (8y9MW)

222 218 Same epic dick move Nick Saban made but it worked out for Nick.

Posted by: steevy at April 11, 2012 09:20 AM (7W3wI)

223 Now we put up Romney, so there's some deep foreign policy shit coming our way?

Not impossible: Iran, the NORKs, not to mention the rest of the Middle East. I recommend Romney get someone with some Foreign Policy experience on his ticket.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:21 AM (8y9MW)

224 I suppose Noot thinks that since he is now the only not Romney he will get some votes.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:21 AM (YdQQY)

225 Funny that Rick Pitino bangs a broad in his favorite Italian resteraunt but still has a job.

Posted by: steevy at April 11, 2012 09:21 AM (7W3wI)

226 Someone needs to point out to the envious poorer democrats that if Obama passes that big tax increase on the millionaires, THEY WON'T GET ANY OF IT.

Who will get that money? University professors, leftist think tanks, green energy scam artists, union bosses, democrat consulting groups, etc. They will just be transferring money to a group of people who do not create jobs and spend their money in elitist hang-outs like The Hamptons.

I last saw this with Bill Clinton's election. I was working in a nice furniture store in sales. Right after the election, when Bush lost, we had a whole bunch of new customers coming in buying expensive furniture. All jolly, like their ship came in. And they all bought on credit. And they were all democrats, who somehow thought that Clinton's election meant that their ship had come in. Of course, that wasn't true.

There are a bunch of people in this country who have very poor reasoing skills. They are susceptible to this class envy stuff because they think this means THEY will get more money. It is, of course, a misunderstanding that JEF is all too willing to promote. We have to make them understand that they will not get the money. Obama didn't deliver on those sacks of cah everyone thought would magically appear in their mailbozes. We need to remind them of that.


Posted by: Miss Marple at April 11, 2012 09:22 AM (GoIUi)

227 If you believe that Santorum's so-con attributes do not make him completely unelectable in a general election, there are probably a few bridges that you might be interested in purchasing.
I admire a man like Tebow who has values. PERSONAL values. But I detest a man like Santorum who has values he wants to impose on me from the alter of the State. As he most clearly does.
He's fundamentally nothing but a statist. He just wants the State to do 'different' things.
Even 'wronger' things than it currently does.

If this is the face of the Republican Party ---- it's going to die. It's just a matter of time. Hell it even now can't beat a man who is presiding over a miserable economic failure, and an out-of-control deficit. How do you think the future will somehow be 'better' ?

Posted by: Dougf at April 11, 2012 09:22 AM (RajuI)

228 I suppose Noot thinks that since he is now the only not Romney he will get some votes.

Your name has to be on the ballot to get votes.

Well, there are right ins, but if I'm writing in, I'm not wasting that on Noot.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:22 AM (8y9MW)

229 223 Doesn't the mighty stache Bolton advise him?

Posted by: steevy at April 11, 2012 09:22 AM (7W3wI)

230 FWIW, I will never vote for a former/current legislator for the executive unless he/she has some executive experience.

This G_ddamn sniping and ankle-biting shit that legislators do (and cannot resist) reaffirms my disgust for the lot of them.

Posted by: Fritz at April 11, 2012 09:22 AM (/ZZCn)

231
Allen,

Gary Johnson reminds me of Tony Shaloub's character in Galaxy Quest - completely nonplussed at the events raging around him because he's stoned out of his mind.

I don't think it would hurt the Republicans so much as marginalize the Libertarian Party even more. Who knows, maybe it peels off some of the non-stoner ideological types for the GOP.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 09:22 AM (zacpj)

232 157 Mornin', y'all. Every heard of pokeweed?
Posted by: Mama AJ at April 11, 2012 08:49 AM (XdlcF)

A man who wouldn't cheat for a poke don't want one bad enough.

Posted by: Augustus "Gus" McCrae at April 11, 2012 09:23 AM (JgPDK)

233 I recommend Romney get someone with some Foreign Policy experience on his ticket.

Bolton or Cheney! But he'd be more likely lean towards someone like Condelezza Rice.

Posted by: t-bird at April 11, 2012 09:23 AM (FcR7P)

234 >> I recommend Romney get someone with some Foreign Policy experience on his ticket.

I might be available...

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 11, 2012 09:23 AM (XdlcF)

235 My biggest problem with college football coaches is not their personal lives. It is the damn HUGE salaries they are paid by the schools which are financed largely by the tax payer..

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:23 AM (YdQQY)

236 <i>The good news for Santorum is that next time, whether that's 2016 or 2020, he'll have a strong claim for it being his turn.</i>

You gotta be shitting me.

Not even Republicans can be that stupid.

I hope... for no real good reason...

Posted by: Entropy at April 11, 2012 09:23 AM (TULs6)

237 EU Court of Human Blah Blah
vs. endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable

Is the inability to recognize a beautiful truth as written a symptom or cause of Tranziism?

solitary confinement at U.S. supermax prisons ... federal
pound-them-in-the-ass prisons.


IIRC Supermax solitary is so locked up there isn't any PTITA or is that the "right" the EUs are fussing about.

Posted by: DaveA at April 11, 2012 09:23 AM (onSRg)

238 On the Primary side it should either set the schedule order by
percentage of vote for Republican in the last Presidential election
where the "most red State" goes first and blue States last.


eh - no I don't think so. Is the goal of the primary to choose the Most Conservative of the Conservatives? Or is the goal of the primary to choose someone who is competitive in the general election?

Someone who gets 90+% of the conservative vote in Alabama is not necessarily the same person who can successfully flip OH, PA or MI to flip from blue to red.

Now I agree that it's kinda stupid to enshrine IA and NH as "first in the nation" but I don't agree with putting the reddest of the red at the front of the line.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2012 09:24 AM (VE1KN)

239 Well, silly for someone like me who is all too willing to answer questions with, "Don't be stupid. Next question."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:17 AM (8y9MW)


...That would be a bad thing?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 11, 2012 09:24 AM (4df7R)

240 newt couldn't get on the utah ballot? check bounced? great...

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 11, 2012 09:24 AM (Ho2rs)

241 Someone needs to point out to the envious poorer democrats that if Obama passes that big tax increase on the millionaires, THEY WON'T GET ANY OF IT.**
Someone also needs to point out that the wealthiest could be taxed at 90% and it still wouldn't solve the deficit problem. The middle class is the mother lode...that's the money they're planning to go after.

Posted by: kallisto at April 11, 2012 09:25 AM (jm/9g)

242 235 Basketball coaches too.Ridiculous salaries.

Posted by: steevy at April 11, 2012 09:25 AM (7W3wI)

243 Doesn't the mighty stache Bolton advise him?

If he does (and I'm not sure) then make it official and name him as the VP. Or, even better: steal the idea we've thrown out a few times- assemble a "cabinet" and run as a team.

I don't think it would hurt the Republicans so much as marginalize the Libertarian Party even more

Oh, I don't think the Libertarian party is any "threat" to the Republican Party. I do, however, think that it can be made to seem so by the MFM- possibly long enough to get their Light Worker over the finish line one more time.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:25 AM (8y9MW)

244 ...That would be a bad thing?

I'm not into vanity, and any candidacy of mine would likely be a vanity run.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:26 AM (8y9MW)

245 Uh-oh. We're talking about Santorum AND libertarians? Where's Shockwave to school us on the bible-thumping racists who forced him to leave the Republican party!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 11, 2012 09:26 AM (4df7R)

246 p.s. Romney doesn't need your endorsement.

Good luck with your forthcoming tv career.

Posted by: HoboJerky at April 11, 2012 09:26 AM (dptRY)

247
Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:23 AM (YdQQY)

Vic, at Nebraska at least, the football program is self-funded. No tax money goes to football.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2012 09:26 AM (VE1KN)

248 @10

Chris Christie. Marco Rubio. Alan West. Rick Snyder (MI governer), Sarah. Nikki. And so on.

They are out there. They are good. For some reason we have a choice between many dolts, and various levels of teh Crazy nor luap-ian types, while the sane folks take a pass,

Posted by: John Galt at April 11, 2012 09:26 AM (9NQ6I)

249 Well, silly for someone like me who is all too willing to answer questions with, "Don't be stupid. Next question."


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:17 AM (8y9MW)


I'd vote for you solely on that answer. Unfortunately the inability to suffer dumbfucks gladly has kept many good people out of elected office.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 11, 2012 09:27 AM (Cw+Gl)

250 243 I like Bolton better as Secretary of State.The career assholes at State will get apoplexy.

Posted by: steevy at April 11, 2012 09:27 AM (7W3wI)

251 I just read a story out of Humboldt County, CA. It seems some "clergy" are putting on a 40 Days for Abortion prayer vigil. The depravity is astounding. http://tinyurl.com/d3ns2un

Posted by: no good deed at April 11, 2012 09:28 AM (mjR67)

252 Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2012 09:24 AM (VE1KN)
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You're from a blue State right?

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:28 AM (YdQQY)

253 steal the idea we've thrown out a few times- assemble a "cabinet" and run as a team.

And make sure to include about three hundred prosecutors.

Posted by: t-bird at April 11, 2012 09:28 AM (FcR7P)

254 I like Bolton better as Secretary of State.The career assholes at State will get apoplexy.

I do too, actually. That's why I still like the idea of a Presidential Team running, instead of just the Nominee.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:28 AM (8y9MW)

255
@AllenG,
I just don't share you enthusiasm for a 3rd party now or in the near future, even if it is was the third party of "People with exactly my opinion."
Sucky thing is our system is decidedly a Multiple of 2 party system. Because we elect a president on a simple "most votes" rather than an actual 50%+1 majority, the creation of any party that steals votes from either side is a benefit to the other side. So a Conservative party splits the Right vote, which basically secures the presidency for the dems for decades until one of the Right parties collaspses entirely. Unless you get a party on the left too (Neo-Socalists or something) that steal a roughly proportionate number of votes. Then you have a 4 way race to the top.
Note a few things: 1) This doesn't apply to the Senate or Congress, a 3 or more party system could work there, although I'd guess it'd break down by regions more than anything. 2) This could be solved with a run off style election where you have to take 50%+1 to win or you go into a top 2 run off. Actually such a system could encourage even more than 3 parties. But I'm not sure that the same effect wouldn't be created by a robust and diverse primary process.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 11, 2012 09:28 AM (SYrwI)

256 #241 You are quite right about the deficit, but I am not talking about people who care about the deficit, or even know what it is.

I am talking about a large group of poorly educated people who vote based purely on "who will give me more stuff" and are lead to believe that taxing millionaires will give them a big check in the mail.

This is what we saw in 2008. They didn't get the money they thought was coming their way. They need to be reminded of that. I will be content if they stay home; they don't need to vote GOP.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 11, 2012 09:29 AM (GoIUi)

257 Newt is speaking in a neighboring City on Saturday. It's a pre-existing Tea Party event, and he's either a featured speaker or is doing a campaign visit. I only heard a quick mention of the event, but I think I might go. There's a Trader Joe's out there, so wifey can easily kill an hour shopping while I check out Newt.

Posted by: lincolntf at April 11, 2012 09:29 AM (hiMsy)

258 I like Bolton better as Secretary of State.The career assholes at State will get apoplexy.
Posted by: steevy at April 11, 2012 09:27 AM (7W3wI)


Would there be a Voinovich tissue contingency?

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at April 11, 2012 09:29 AM (SP/dK)

259 NPR on with some blather about how Santorum moved the Rs to the right.

Not a mention of how their colleague Zero caused any of the movement with his war on wimmens, war on elite rich jerks, war on Catholics, etc.

Posted by: MyVoteDon'tCountInF*ckingNY at April 11, 2012 09:29 AM (PH+2B)

260
>>This G_ddamn sniping and ankle-biting shit that legislators do (and cannot resist) reaffirms my disgust for the lot of them.

How about above the waist? http://tinyurl.com/84gghzb

-beer and boobeh break

Posted by: sickinmass at April 11, 2012 09:30 AM (bcNec)

261 Alan West

I wish people would stop throwing that name out there. He is a one-term House member who had a, shall we say, "clouded" history in the military. I think people must only like him because he talks trash about Democrats often. But trash talk is not a serious qualification.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2012 09:30 AM (VE1KN)

262 #254 No team running. It gives the dems chances for more distractions, whether it is someone's taxes, affiliations with a fringe group, marital status, etc.

You want a small target, not a large one, when the dems start firing.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 11, 2012 09:31 AM (GoIUi)

263 Posted by: tsrblke at April 11, 2012 09:28 AM (SYrwI)

Tell that to the Republicans- who started up when they felt the Whigs went wobbly.

But, yes, that's why I think that one starting up under a Romney presidency is better than one starting up under Obama.

And, if I'm discussing tactics- they don't run a presidential candidate at all for the first couple of cycles- they focus on the Legislature, and State races.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:31 AM (8y9MW)

264 You're from a blue State right?

Right now, I am in Missouri. Why do you ask?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2012 09:31 AM (VE1KN)

265 @ Empire of PMS

>>>>Well, which am I?

An insignificant hairball-spitting monkey that nobody should listen to, or

A Danger to The Cause? <<<

You hurt your own position. You know, the argument YOU are making. Here is were the insignificance (which you introduced) comes in- You aint big enough to effect "The Cause".

As to pointing out what everyone knows you are- I didn't say "Look everybody, its a feces flinging monkey!" I said,"Look everybody a feces flinging monkey thinks it will change your mind by throwing feces at you!"

There is a difference.



Posted by: kdny at April 11, 2012 09:33 AM (63qg4)

266
"Someone needs to point out to the envious poorer democrats that if Obama passes that big tax increase on the millionaires, THEY WON'T GET ANY OF IT."

That doesn't matter as much to them as the hope that the rich are "punished" for stealing from the poor. Because everyone knows that's where all the money is.

Don't try to apply logic to these people's reasoning. If they didn't suck at math, they wouldn't be in their current predicament.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 09:33 AM (zacpj)

267 Vic, I guess the bottom line is, what do you see as the real purpose of the primaries? It sounds like you see its purpose is to select the Leader of the Conservatives.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2012 09:33 AM (VE1KN)

268
My biggest problem with college football coaches is not their personal
lives. It is the damn HUGE salaries they are paid by the schools which
are financed largely by the tax payer..


Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:23 AM (YdQQY)


Kollidges and universities are less intelligently run than a sidewalk lemonade stand. I've long said that university presidents should all be replaced by high-priced hookers. The requisite job skills are identical and the working girls have success in the private sector.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 11, 2012 09:34 AM (Cw+Gl)

269 Because you want to keep blue States voting first. You claim it is about winning swing states. Not so. If it was that the swing States would go first not blue States.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:35 AM (YdQQY)

270 I also think it was the right thing to do. Your Head Football Coach represents you, as a University, when he's doing the kinds of things Bobby-P did, and getting away with it, it says bad things about your university.
Despite that, I suspect they only fired him after a large number of alumni called up and explained that he could go, or their checks could.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:20 AM (8y9MW)


Ditto.

My take is that if the guy was just having an affair, okay. I'd consider him a pig and a lowlife, and if I had a son of college age I wouldn't be wanting him to view BP as a positive role model. But when you hear all the details about Petrino hiring the young woman with whom he was having the affair, it just gets disgusting. From what I understand she's supposed to be getting married in a few months (I wonder if her fiance is having second thoughts about that). What if she'd decided to break off the relationship with Petrino in light of her impending marriage? Would he have fired her? How would that not have been an inappropriate exercise of power? It was inappropriate already that he'd been involved in the hiring process without disclosing that he knew her. Talk about conflict of interest!

The whole thing stinks to high heaven. I have no pity for Petrino, but I do feel for his wife and children. What it must be like to have THAT guy living under the same roof as you.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 11, 2012 09:35 AM (4df7R)

271
President Barack Obama is
intensifying his campaign for higher taxes on top U.S. earners,
casting the issue against Republican opposition as one of
fairness and support for the middle class.

The president is holding an event at the White House today
to promote the so-called Buffett Rule, a plan to set a minimum
tax rate for top earners. While Obama's schedule offered little
detail on the event, deputy press secretary Josh Earnest said in
a Twitter message that it will feature millionaires who support
"fairness" accompanied by their secretaries.





Yes, trot out the useful idiots who support Barry's class warfare. I wonder if they have been dodging taxes for years like Warren has? Probably. The typical liberal is all for liberal policies as long as it doesn't actually affect them

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 11, 2012 09:35 AM (1Jaio)

272 177 Pokeweed. "Poke salad."
You mean Poke Sallet.
Boil poke shoots twice changing water between boilings. Meanwhile fry bacon until crisp and set aside. Drain and braise the poke shoots in the bacon grease. Add whisked egg and cook with the poke until done. Add crumbled bacon.
This is East Kentucky Poke Sallet

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 11, 2012 09:36 AM (JgPDK)

273 Because you want to keep blue States voting first.

I didn't say that.

I said that I see a different goal for the primaries than you. Actually I wouldn't mind if OH and IA and CO went first. I just don't think it is a good idea to put the most conservative states at the head of the line.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2012 09:37 AM (VE1KN)

274 The theme of the day?

http://is.gd/5JBDOh

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:38 AM (YdQQY)

275 santorum 2016 ? now that's funny

Posted by: runner at April 11, 2012 09:38 AM (WR5xI)

276 I just don't think it is a good idea to put the most conservative states at the head of the line.


Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2012 09:37 AM (VE1KN)
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We sure as hell haven't been doing any good placing he blue States first.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:39 AM (YdQQY)

277
Romney Support Historically Low for Winning Candidate

Romney's 42% support in the final 2012 nomination preference poll ranks among the lowest Gallup has measured for a nominee in its final poll since 1972... Specifically, no other Republican winner in the primary era has had as little as 42% support in Gallup's final measure of nomination preferences, with George W. Bush's 57% in 2000 the lowest before now.

Across both parties, only George McGovern had less support among a winner in either party, being the preferred nominee of 30% of Democrats just before the 1972 Democratic convention. Jimmy Carter, who was supported by 48% of Democrats in 1980 as he sought re-election, is the only other nominee who was below 50% support in the final nomination preference poll.

Romney's support among rank-and-file Republicans at this point -- when his nomination is all but assured -- pales in comparison to that for past nomination winners at similar stages in their campaigns.

Gallup: http://tinyurl.com/6sg282s





Romney 2012: yay?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 11, 2012 09:40 AM (kdS6q)

278 Besides, I didn't say "conservative States". I said RED States.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:40 AM (YdQQY)

279 >>>I wish people would stop throwing that name out there. He is a one-term
House member who had a, shall we say, "clouded" history in the military.<<<


Yes, his history was "clouded". Like Patton's.


Posted by: kdny at April 11, 2012 09:40 AM (63qg4)

280 Iowa and NH are both kind of swing-y. Call them swing-curious.

Posted by: Daniel Jeyn at April 11, 2012 09:40 AM (jBA6+)

281
I noticed that the Treyvon signs are of quite good pre-printed quality, and all look the same. This proves its a grass roots protest, and not sponsored by race baiters.

Posted by: Jimmah at April 11, 2012 09:41 AM (UpwlP)

282 NPR on with some blather about how Santorum moved the Rs to the right.

Yeah, sure. More like:

"Obama's Legacy - Second Look At Conservatism?"

Posted by: t-bird at April 11, 2012 09:41 AM (FcR7P)

283 chefjeff - I think you are probably right on this. There are days I think that Alan West is our Grayson.

I like him a lot, but I also think he was done a huge favor in redistricting by moving him to FL-17. I think he would lose his current district.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 11, 2012 09:41 AM (9t6jP)

284 So Zimmerman's lawyers quit and it sounds like Z is going off the deep end.

I fear this is not going to turn out well.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at April 11, 2012 09:41 AM (hXJOG)

285 We sure as hell haven't been doing any good placing he blue States first.

I forgot, by Vic's standards, any state to the left of South Carolina is "blue".

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2012 09:41 AM (VE1KN)

286 News flash! Explosion at a Lithium battery p[lant in Detroit for GM.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:42 AM (YdQQY)

287 And, Vic, your proposal was to place the reddest states at the head of the line. That would be a great idea if we want to select the Most Truest of True Conservatives. It is not *necessarily* a great idea if we want a candidate who will be competitive in swing states.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2012 09:44 AM (VE1KN)

288 Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:42 AM (YdQQY)

I hope no one was seriously injured.

But I have to say it:

"Chevy Volt- now pre-exploded for your convenience."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:44 AM (8y9MW)

289 >>>-beer and boobeh break

Good Lord, when a tango in a two piece bikini takes a man's last beer, it's Game On!


Posted by: Fritz at April 11, 2012 09:44 AM (/ZZCn)

290 I forgot, by Vic's standards, any state to the left of South Carolina is "blue".
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I go by how they fraking vote most of the time. You know like normal people.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:44 AM (YdQQY)

291 G'morning Morons!

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at April 11, 2012 09:44 AM (niW49)

292 He is a one-term House member who had a, shall we say, "clouded" history in the military. I think people must only like him because he talks trash about Democrats often. But trash talk is not a serious qualification.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2012 09:30 AM (VE1KN)

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Maybe I'm missing some details here, but the one thing I know about his military service is this - when it came time for West to make a choice between the well being of a piece of sh*t muslim and that ofAmericans, he made the right choice. And as forhis limited time in office, that's a feature, not a bug. The fact that he 'trash talks' about the enemy is a damn fine distinction from the kind of spinless collegiality we've seen so often among those in power.

Posted by: Reactionary at April 11, 2012 09:44 AM (xUM1Q)

293 Vic, are IA and NH "blue" states?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2012 09:44 AM (VE1KN)

294
@AllenG,
Obviously history shows 3 parties existing before, but I think that the modern notion of politics exlcudes this (with platforms and conformity and such.) My romantic view of history also tells me we actually were concerned with the character of our leaders back then, and you know..issues. Moreso than now (but everything looks better with age on it, no?)
My focus would be to shift the party in the same way you suggest creating a new one. Focus on Legislature and State races (Who become the future party leaders) and push the entire party in the proper direction. It avoides the complications of a 3rd party.
My history on Whigs is a little short, but my understanding is they were mostly blown up by the time the Republicans really entered the field and that the destruction (self or otherwise) was fairly quick anyway (within one presidential cycle). I'd argue that's not really the case with the current republican party, it's still fairly strong and it's collapse would be more than one cycle. So the two aren't entirely comparable.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 11, 2012 09:44 AM (SYrwI)

295 Third Party? Hell yeah, worked for me, thanks Teddy, you little shit.

Posted by: Zombie Woodrow Wilson, dickhead wilson at April 11, 2012 09:45 AM (hXJOG)

296 I wouldn't mind if OH and IA and CO went first. I
just don't think it is a good idea to put the most conservative states
at the head of the line.


Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2012 09:37 AM (VE1KN)


I'm against any caucus state being first in line. If that's how they want to do things, fine; but they don't get rewarded with an early spot in the lineup.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 11, 2012 09:45 AM (Cw+Gl)

297 Vic - Isn't SC third? I'm not getting your complaint. In 2008 it was his SC victory that made McCain a serious candidate.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 11, 2012 09:46 AM (9t6jP)

298 Can the Life-like-Romulan-automiton tear Obamaa new asshole the way the bombthrower can - inquiring minds want to know. NEWT VP 2012!

Posted by: AGING HIPPIE LIBERAL DOUCHE OF SOUTH PARK at April 11, 2012 09:46 AM (tuCVl)

299 @Jeff,

I consider myself a Libertarian, ideologically. I went to a couple of meetups here in a Big Blue City, and sadly found most of them to be motivated, loosely, by Trutherism. They were all-in Luap Nor-people.

I don't know many people who are motivated to identify/vote Libertarian based on ganja. It's way down on my list of priorities to do something about. (Because, in my opinion, contempt for law has grown to such a level in this country that it is quasi-legal, essentially...)

Consider Libertarians like me who vote R to be the naked, claymore-swinging, blue-painted berskerkers you want to have out in front of your battles, even if you don't want us actually running things. I'm game.

Posted by: Daniel Jeyn at April 11, 2012 09:47 AM (jBA6+)

300 IIANM both Iowa and NH have voted once for a Republican since RR. I would call that BLUE.


Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:47 AM (YdQQY)

301 Same epic dick move Nick Saban made but it worked out for Nick.

Three National Championships cover a multitude of sins.

Posted by: Mister Mxyzptlk at April 11, 2012 09:47 AM (GTbGH)

302
Again, dummy, you assume I care about persuading anyone. I don't.

Please, tell me more about how this makes you feel.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 09:48 AM (zacpj)

303 Third Party? Hell yeah, worked for me! Thanks Ross you little big eared dickhead.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 11, 2012 09:49 AM (hXJOG)

304 Meanwhile, I must go to the accountants and pick up our tax forms so I can write a check which is way larger than it should be.

I console myself by believing my money is going to pay a soldier. Otherwise I would get too depressed.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 11, 2012 09:49 AM (GoIUi)

305 It makes sense that the Lithium is being stored in Michigan...

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 11, 2012 09:49 AM (JgPDK)

306 297
Vic - Isn't SC third? I'm not getting your complaint. In 2008 it was his SC victory that made McCain a serious candidate.


Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 11, 2012 09:46 AM (9t6jP)

Never thought I would see those words together....McCain and serious candidate...man that was depressing to watch

Posted by: Red Shirt at April 11, 2012 09:49 AM (FIDMq)

307 Anyway, I need to get some stuff done this morning. bbl

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:50 AM (YdQQY)

308
@Vic Chemjeff

Same day primaries! Solves all of these problems. Granted it creates the incredibly nasty problem of having to muster up a national compaign. Ok that won't work.
A compromise then. Regional primaries. We group them closer together in huge chunks and randomly decide which chunk go first each time. I'd imagine you'd still get enough diversity to prevent someone from sweeping the first chunk (if you set them up right) unless that person was really and truely inevitable (the incredibly popular kind).

Posted by: tsrblke at April 11, 2012 09:50 AM (SYrwI)

309 I'd argue that's not really the case with the current republican party,
it's still fairly strong and it's collapse would be more than one cycle.
So the two aren't entirely comparable.


Well, it would really only be the second time in our history that it had happened, so I don't think "comparable" enters into it.

And the fact is that the current party leadership (both elected and appointed) have a great deal of weight regarding the "farm team." I'll point to the Dede Scuzzy-whatsit ordeal, among others, there.

I'm not sure we have the kind of time it would take to accomplish "change from within." Let's say we get the most Conservative of Conservative Candidates elected across the majority of states. They fill up their house legislatures and so forth.

Then they're stuck there for years (or decades) while they wait for an opening to run for national office. The rules are so skewed in the favor of incumbents, that those who would be more conservative often choose not to run just so they don't impoverish themselves.

Think about it, 2010 was a major shift to the right- and we managed to shift a whopping 60+ (63?) seats in the house- and most of those were democrat losses, not people running in primaries against incumbent Republicans.

A third party means you don't have to "wait," and at the local and State level, you're more likely to have some actual success.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:51 AM (8y9MW)

310 Vic - Isn't SC third? I'm not getting your complaint. In 2008 it was his SC victory that made McCain a serious candidate.
---------------------------


Again stupid rules. He won with 30%. Sound familiar.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 09:51 AM (YdQQY)

311 Pawlenty was on CNN this morning. As Romney's surrogate they asked him a question about the difference between BO's economic program and Romney's program. The questioner mentioned Bush in the question so Pawlenty answered the wrong question by comparing Romney to Bush. This is about the third time I've seen them interview Pawlenty where he is lackluster at best. On CNN they always wryly thank him and he acts as though he's a rock star. If Ed.carl are watching you won't be seeing "T paw, royal surrogate to mittens" in the near future on CNN. Unless of course they want romney to lose.

Posted by: dally at April 11, 2012 09:52 AM (oZfic)

312 I'm hoping this story catches some airtime today. From American Thinker:

Most of us have heard about how the media won't report on black-on-white crime. We also may know that authorities sometimes sweep it under the rug due to political pressure, usually with a wink and a nod. But not so in rural Alabama, where the police actually told a white crime victim that they "don't mess" with a local black motorcycle gang.

http://tinyurl.com/csfn5y6

Summary -- White truck driver pisses off black motorcycle gang member, 30-40 gang members chase down the guy and stab him repeatedly, he lives, cops won't do a thing about it.

I dunno, but this a lot more outrageous than the whole Martin/Zimmerman thing. Not even a hint of a fair fight, attempted murder, and no local investigation.

Where are you at, NBPP Sucker of Cock Holder? Oh that's right, you're probably coordinating the latest assault on voter ID laws in SC. Priorities, dude:

http://tinyurl.com/7zv597d

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 11, 2012 09:52 AM (ccXZP)

313 It is not *necessarily* a great idea if we want a candidate who will be competitive in swing states.

So, we are to check the appeal of our candidates to the opposition and uninterested a year before the election? That does not make sense to me. What's the point of having a party if we let non-members choose the candidate?

Posted by: t-bird at April 11, 2012 09:52 AM (FcR7P)

314 I filled my tank yesterday. I have never, in the history of my life, ever paid so much for a tank of gas.

Posted by: rectal exam at April 11, 2012 09:52 AM (O7ksG)

315 >>>Again, dummy, you assume I care about persuading anyone. I don't.

Please, tell me more about how this makes you feel.<<<

Gee, when someone posts something public telling people what they should do I guess I'm just dumb enough to think they wish to persuade. I should have known it was mere emotional venting judging by its source. By the way, the pads with wings are said to leak less. I understand the leaking makes gals like you cranky.

Mostly I feel like laughing at you.

Posted by: kdny at April 11, 2012 09:53 AM (63qg4)

316 IIANM both Iowa and NH have voted once for a Republican since RR. I would call that BLUE.

No, I would call California "blue".

I would call IA and NH "purple" since they do go back and forth between the candidates, and even when, say, IA votes D, it is by a very thin margin (2008 being the exception).

Once again the Vic standard: if you don't vote for Republicans 100% of the time, you're "blue"

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2012 09:53 AM (VE1KN)

317 Mwahahahaaaaaaaa! Malor, i have an inconvenient truth for you. In 2016, Santorum will be even longer shot, still representing fewer and fewerer Republicans.
The acute commentatory mind of Malor.

Posted by: gerbil malodor at April 11, 2012 09:54 AM (AuQ9P)

318
So, you're saying we put up McCain, and they got to totally fuck the
economy. Now we put up Romney, so there's some deep foreign policy
shit coming our way?


That's pretty much exactly what I'm saying.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 11, 2012 09:54 AM (nzXY9)

319
Posted by: Daniel Jeyn at April 11, 2012 09:47 AM (jBA6<<<<

Then you're exactly who the GOP needs to target. The dopers, Troofersand an-cap extremists all need a group to belong to. If the GOP can peel off the ideological Ls, that could serve to start pulling the party back away from the big-government"moderates."

Which is why the GOP won't court you.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 09:55 AM (zacpj)

320 The "shut up and get in line" strategy ain't working on me.

The only thing appealing about Mitt is that he's not SCOAMF. Set that aside and all that is left is a flaming liberal running as an R solely because it's his best shot at feeding his ego-based run for the presidency.

IMO- there's not tangible benefit to Romney. If he wins, I will be equally pissed off every time his mug is on TV, telling me about how is hands are tied and I need to just be patient and give a little more for the common good. He is equally incapable of making the necessary decisions to start to turn the country away from fiscal disaster and I see know reason to believe that he'd be an improvement in foreign policy.

SCOAMF need to go, but I see no benefit to a Mittens win.

Posted by: Damiano at April 11, 2012 09:56 AM (A2+pr)

321 Re tsunami:



Victor Sardina, a geophysicist on duty at the Hawaii-based center,
said the total vertical measurement of the wave, according to monitoring
gauges, was 35 cm (13.8 inches), making the height 17 cm (6.7 inches).


In the Islands, brah, we measure backs.


Posted by: Gerry Lopez at April 11, 2012 09:56 AM (dRGlb)

322
It has been brought to my attention that the Titanic was a real ship. I think we need to look at nationalizing the ships so this doesn't happen again.

Posted by: Maxine Waters at April 11, 2012 09:57 AM (Ks4nX)

323 Look, I hate to break this to folks, but Romney didn't 'drop bombs' on anyone. More like acted as signal and forward observer for what the media was willing to do anyway.

R on R? Media's all over that. R on D? Close ranks against the outsider!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, in Cylon hell at April 11, 2012 09:57 AM (GBXon)

324 SC was also the death blow to the Perry campaign. I can't remember what he finally tallied, but he was in single digits there the whole time.

Posted by: lincolntf at April 11, 2012 09:57 AM (hiMsy)

325 If we're discussing reforming the primary process, someone, I think it was Geraghty,had a great rolling regional system that ramped up the number of electoral votes. It was logical and elegant and will never ever be implemented because of those reasons.

In random news, there was an accident right in front of me on the way in to work this morning. Woman slammedstraight into the back of another car in the passing lane on the highway. This is why you keep three seconds between you and the car in front of you.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:57 AM (VtjlW)

326
@AllenG,
Don't get me wrong those are all very good points. But I think that a change of culture is necessary to pull this off firstly so no matter how you do it you're going to have the same problems. 3rd party has the same success at the local and state level, but gets hosed either by an incumbant or via a vote split in the state level.
A sigificant culture switch and a local/state leader can ding up the establishment. Marco Rubio stands at the example to that.
3rd party or change from within, I feel the strategy is likely the same in the long run. But I'm of the mind it's easier to steer a party than it is to develop a new national one in the money dependent political word we live in.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 11, 2012 09:59 AM (SYrwI)

327 In random news, there was an accident right in front
of me on the way in to work this morning. Woman slammedstraight into
the back of another car in the passing lane on the highway. This is why
you keep three seconds between you and the car in front of you.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 09:57 AM (VtjlW)
Bet she was on the phone/texting.

Posted by: Hedgehog at April 11, 2012 10:00 AM (3jGS1)

328 If nothing else, the nomination of two moderates in a row as presidential candidates should put a stake in the heart of the lefty meme that Republican moderates are an endangered species
.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 11, 2012 10:01 AM (gPDxp)

329 "Because it's my turn

It's my turn



It's my turn

To start from number one

Trying to undo

Some damage that's been done



But now it's my turn

To reach and touch the sky

No one's gonna say

At least I didn't try



It's my turn

Yes, it's my turn

It's my turn

It's my turn

It's my turn"
http://tinyurl.com/6ltcg33

Posted by: Mittens! at April 11, 2012 10:01 AM (oZfic)

330 If nothing else, the nomination of two moderates in a row as
presidential candidates should put a stake in the heart of the lefty
meme that Republican moderates are an endangered species


Don't worry. We'll be sure to let everyone know that Mitt Romney is the most Extreme Republican Ever.

Posted by: The MFM at April 11, 2012 10:02 AM (8y9MW)

331 This is why you keep three seconds between you and the car in front of you.>>

And no texting, reading doing your makeup.....

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 11, 2012 10:02 AM (tf9Ne)

332 JEFF! (as in Empire of)....
Man, give yourself permission to have a shot of good bourbon with your coffee this morning. You're going to blow a gasket.
I would vote for a friggen White Albatross instead of the SCOAMF. Even if said Albatross reminded me of the Scoamf in a different suit.

Posted by: USMC 8541 at April 11, 2012 10:03 AM (sGtp+)

333
Mostly I feel like laughing at you<<<

Knock yourself out, ladyfriend. But I suspect you're not laughing, but pounding your tiny fists into your Hello Kitty pillow.

Don't worry - a pint of Häagen Dasz and a Grey's Anatomy marathon later, andyou'll be back on your high heels, you hysterical bitch.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 10:04 AM (zacpj)

334 So what's the over/under on when Ace first posts today?
And what's the over/under on number of words in the post?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 10:04 AM (8y9MW)

335 Posted by: GnuBreed at April 11, 2012 09:52 AM (ccXZP)

Did you see the video on Drudge where a black mob beats a white tourist right in front of the Courthouse in downtown Baltimore (about 2 blocks from the central police station). They beat him, took his watch, pulled off his clothes and one loevly young man hung his balls in the guys fact (teabagged).

But don't worry, our wonderful chief of police said that it's not racially motivated.

http://tinyurl.com/c7ty46v

Posted by: Hedgehog at April 11, 2012 10:04 AM (3jGS1)

336 The death knoll for Santorum was not getting on the ballot in Virginia -- this communicates to more sophisticated voters that his organization was lacking. You gotta know the rules. The failure in 2008 was in part due to the GOP lacking a GOTV campaign during the last week -- while I was sympathetic to Santorum, I couldn't even vote for him in the primary.

If Willy Mitt comes out with the long knives for Obama like he did in the primary, he'll move up a notch in my book. Negative campaigning works like all hell, as we have to depress turnout on the Dem side. I've volunteered for tire/throat slashing duty.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 11, 2012 10:05 AM (Ec6wH)

337 Santorum was a lousy candidate. On purpose.

Now we get to see if you all stand back and watch the MFM fuck Romney like you did everyone else from Palin to Cain to Newt to Rick. Maybe you'll help like you did with Palin.

Popcorn?

Posted by: SurferDoc at April 11, 2012 10:06 AM (6H6FZ)

338 When did EoJ and kndy get married?

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at April 11, 2012 10:07 AM (SP/dK)

339
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 10:04 AM (8y9MW)
12:30/War and Peace

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 11, 2012 10:07 AM (mFxQX)

340 328- Nah. If that were the case, race relations would have improved under Obama.

The MFM is all, "Who you gonna believe, me or your lyin eyes (which see a black President).

Posted by: kdny at April 11, 2012 10:08 AM (63qg4)

341 Posted by: USMC 8541 at April 11, 2012 10:03 AM (sGtp+) <<<Are you kidding me? This isn't even a light workout for me. Stick around, I'm expecting several more posts from kdny explaining why I'm not worth the bother of paying attention or responding to.I am dipping my balls in the cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 10:08 AM (zacpj)

342 It's like pushing out an especially hard constipation turd, but...

Trainers for Romney

Note: I didn't get into the blog's candidate wars cuz I was willing to vote for a ham sandwich...ABO. Go Mitt. Mitt's my Man. Mitt 2012.

Posted by: minuteman (formerly trainer) until Juggy is gone at April 11, 2012 10:08 AM (Rojyk)

343 Bolton or Cheney! But he'd be more likely lean towards someone like Condelezza Rice.

Posted by: t-bird at April 11, 2012 09:23 AM (FcR7P)

I think Condi is happy at George Washington. If she can't get the NFL then she'll stay an academic.
I saw a Romney commercial while walking on the treadmill at the YMCA. Good, effective, hit directly at the SCOAMF on taxes. Romney will attack, and the SCOAMF is vulnerable, so we're going to see (1) Endless distractions like Sandra Fluke, and (2) increasingly hysterical attempts to gin up a macaca moment.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 11, 2012 10:09 AM (RD7QR)

344 Haagen Daas?

Which flavor is your fave, hon?

Posted by: kdny at April 11, 2012 10:10 AM (63qg4)

345
Ahhh, the decision to take the family on a short vacation for spring break in CSL after last month's medical mishhaps and work stress was a good one. Of course, I am working on my laptop on a client's case (I will truly relax only when I am dead) as the rest of the brood sleeps off 1) too many trips down the water slide (The Boy), 2) shadowing some handsome 15 year old to try to get him to notice her (Eldest Daughter), 3) the stress of being 5 years old with too much to do in a sunny tropical paradise (The Small Irritable One) and 4) threetoo many pina coladas and too much hip hop dancing on the Snorkel/Party Boat yesterday (She Who Must Be Obeyed).

Now I just have to finish writing a complaint and a letter, read my e-mail and pone messages, and I will go swim in the sea for an hour (and hope not to be eaten by one of my namesakes) before we all trek over to frolic with the dolphins this afternoon.

Hope you are all doing well.

Posted by: Sharkman, Sort of Relaxing in Cabo San Lucas at April 11, 2012 10:11 AM (GWiP3)

346 The hello kitty thing is a funny image. Meanwhile I imagine you as Larry from the stooges, standing there with fistfuls of his own hair while doing his best Sam Kineson imitation.





In pink tights.

Posted by: kdny at April 11, 2012 10:12 AM (63qg4)

347 @334

I have noticed an after lunch post. After six five hour energy drinks or a toke on the crack pipe, which I doubt, the ewok will be on fire.

Can not wait to see what we get today, say around 2:00 PM Eastern.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 11, 2012 10:12 AM (hXJOG)

348 In my opinion Romney would have beaten Obama in 2008. For all the actions taken by McCain that contributed to his loss, Romney would have done the opposite. He would not have allowed the negative stories about Obama be buried, he would not have suspended his campaign, he would not have had Palin as his VP who hurt McCain in the swing states and he would have had a better showing in the debates.

Actually I think it will be more difficult this election as it is against any incumbent, even a fuck up, but I believe he will win for the same reasons.

Posted by: Crazy says what at April 11, 2012 10:14 AM (eKmTe)

349 Crazy sock

Posted by: polynikes at April 11, 2012 10:16 AM (eKmTe)

350 Ugh. My son made the mistake of going out with a girl whose mom is an attention-whoring psycho-bitch. I fear my life is about to get interesting.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 11, 2012 10:16 AM (gPDxp)

351 I know some Frummy nolabels types who say McCain lost because he was too much of an extremist righty, abandoning his centrism.

Posted by: Blaster at April 11, 2012 10:17 AM (Fw2Gg)

352 kdny vs. EoJ.

kdny's way out of her(?) league, but we're still seeing more fight than usual. Promise, that one has.

Gonna need some more popcorn here. I love the smell of troll's blood in the morning. Smells like...victory.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, in Cylon hell at April 11, 2012 10:18 AM (GBXon)

353 Posted by: Hedgehog at April 11, 2012 10:04 AM (3jGS1)

Yeah I saw the videos (there are 2 different ones capturing the assault) -- nope, nothing racial at all there though that was a white guy on the ground and a group of blacks robbing him blind after coldcocking him.

Then we have this sweet nugget of misinformation from NPR, the liberal loving cockbites running propaganda on our tax dimes:

Ifill announced "Martin, who was black, was on his way to a convenience store in a mostly white gated community when George Zimmerman, who is white, shot and killed him after a disputed altercation." Martin was painted as “carrying only candy and a soft drink" and "was discovered by police lying face down in the grass.”

http://tinyurl.com/cwmygcr (Newsbusters link)

So now Zimmerman has been fully demoted to white; no longer even a passing mention of Hispanic. The one drop rule has now passed through the ass of the camel. Sasha and Malia -- white, by this logic.


Posted by: GnuBreed at April 11, 2012 10:19 AM (ccXZP)

354 @348

No one was going to beat Barry after the crash. McCain was ahead in the polls in August, then the dumb fuck took off? WTF.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at April 11, 2012 10:19 AM (hXJOG)

355 Bet she was on the phone/texting.
Nope, she blew past me maybe 20 seconds before it happenedand she wasn't on the phone then. She was just going too fast, traffic slowed and WHAM. I just barely missed it. Considering that I am going to pick up my new to me car this afternoon and I'm trading in the car I was driving, well, let's just say that it's a good thing I didn't get caught up in it or I would have beaten someone with a bumper.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 10:20 AM (VtjlW)

356 Ugh. My son made the mistake of going out with a girl whose mom is an attention-whoring psycho-bitch. I fear my life is about to get interesting.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 11, 2012 10:16 AM (gPDxp)


Showers with the door open AWPB or drives car into living room AWPB?

There's a subtle difference.

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at April 11, 2012 10:20 AM (SP/dK)

357 Is that senile fuck Warren Buffett dead yet? Now that the Mike Wallace people have won their dead pools, I want the cheap cocksucker who brags about how poorly he pays his secretary to stop stealing my oxygen.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 11, 2012 10:20 AM (Cw+Gl)

358 @Billy

Do you remember McLame and Palin's response to the crash was to blame Wall Street? That's the thing that stuck out at me with her debate with Slow Joe. He whipped up a bunch of BS numbers, and then then Palin blamed Wall Street. That's the first time I realized the GOP had truly shit the bed.

Posted by: Daniel Jeyn at April 11, 2012 10:21 AM (jBA6+)

359 gregory

yikes.....is he still dating her? if yes, explain how she will turn into her.......eventually.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 11, 2012 10:21 AM (Ho2rs)

360 "Ifill announced "Martin, who was black, was on his way to a convenience store in a mostly white gated community when George Zimmerman, who is white, shot and killed him after a disputed altercation." Martin was painted as “carrying only candy and a soft drink" and "was discovered by police lying face down in the grass.”

-----------------

The MFM narrative on this began, and continues to be, "Innocent Black Schoolboy Gunned Down by Trigger Happy White Racist." The only word in that narrative that's actually true is the word "Black."

But, for the race-obsessed MFM, that's truthy enough.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 11, 2012 10:21 AM (gPDxp)

361 Lovin' Drudge's headline, by the way. Our poor widdle amateur-in-chief is wasting away before our eyes!

A particularly jaundiced eye might wonder if he's getting too much of a special kind of help to keep going...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, in Cylon hell at April 11, 2012 10:23 AM (GBXon)

362 IMO- there's not tangible benefit to Romney. ...SCOAMF need to go, but I see no benefit to a Mittens win.
Posted by: Damiano at April 11, 2012 09:56 AM (A2+pr)

-------------

Even if most of what you suggested is true, there is but one thing that matters. Obie can't be allowed to put any more libtards on the SCOTUS. If he does, game over. I don't want to spend the next four years worrying that Scalia is going to drop dead or that we'll suffersome equally horrible loss.
For that reason, if no other, obastard must be defeated, at whatever cost.

Posted by: Reactionary at April 11, 2012 10:23 AM (xUM1Q)

363 @335 -- Romney should link every racial incident (escalating black on white violence) to Holder.If this is repeated, it will create a strong subconscious link in the viewer, associating Holder with the breakdown of law and order.

Speaking of subconscious attacks,last night in prime time, both National Geographic channel and H2presenteddocumentaries about cults,with an emphasis on the Warren Jeffs cult. Of course, it culminated with a discussion on Jonestown.Let the Mormon bashing begin!

And don't forget the whole TrailinBloodOn issue was introduced toundermine Rubio'scampaign.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 11, 2012 10:23 AM (Ec6wH)

364 284
So Zimmerman's lawyers quit and it sounds like Z is going off the deep end.

I fear this is not going to turn out well.



Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at April 11, 2012 09:41 AM (hXJOG)

Oy. Either Z admitted something that made the lawyer quit or Z has gone crazy from the pressure. The poster who put 50% odds on Z committing suicide soon probably has it right.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 11, 2012 10:24 AM (RD7QR)

365 yikes.....is he still dating her? if yes, explain how she will turn into her.......eventually....... - Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 11, 2012 10:21 AM (Ho2rs)

--------------------

He just broke up with her, but her mom found her phone, read their txt messages and sent me a bunch of threatening txt messages as a result, threatening that she's heard rumors about my son and I'll be hearing from their attorney

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 11, 2012 10:24 AM (gPDxp)

366 Mitt is a Liberal pretending to be a Moderate pretending to be a Conservative, and he has us all by the balls.

He knows what we really want.

We want Obama out so badly we'll vote for a fake like Mitt to get it.

Posted by: eman at April 11, 2012 10:24 AM (SkRNT)

367 SRSLY, is that how an adult deals with a situation?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 11, 2012 10:24 AM (gPDxp)

368 "Obama admirer to teach 'Understanding Obama' class at Harvard Law School"
http://tinyurl.com/7zum49w

Posted by: Mittens! at April 11, 2012 10:24 AM (oZfic)

369 >>>I'm not worth the bother of paying attention or responding to.<<<

I have said neither of these things. Your delusions are interesting.

>>>I am dipping my balls in the cognitive dissonance.<<<

Perhaps you should simply concentrate on the cognitive.

Posted by: kdny at April 11, 2012 10:25 AM (63qg4)

370 Zim's suicide wouldn't bring an end to this...not by a long (ahem) shot.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 11, 2012 10:26 AM (Ec6wH)

371 gregory

get a restraining order.....stat

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 11, 2012 10:26 AM (Ho2rs)

372 SRSLY, is that how an adult deals with a situation?

My MIL would shower with the door open.

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at April 11, 2012 10:26 AM (SP/dK)

373 You know, you read a lot of stupid things about our government every day. But this has got to be among the stupidest.

Via the PJ Tatler (http://tinyurl.com/7mpmrjx):


Letter to Secretary Napolitano: Can You Please Not Relocate a Disease Lab to Tornado Alley?

The Department of Homeland Security said that its plans to relocate an agricultural disease research lab from an island off New York to Kansas’ Tornado Alley will end up costing double the original estimate.

The extra cost — a total of approximately $1.1 billion — will be incurred by trying to reduce the risk of a disease outbreak and incorporating new security recommendations in the vulnerable area.

The National Bio- and Agro-Defense Facility is moving to a site in Kansas near thousands of head of cattle that is frequently hit by dangerous tornadoes, said Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.), who is asking DHS to consider moving it somewhere less risky.

...

Diseases that could infect herds should the facility become compromised by a twister include foot-and-mouth disease.

A Homeland Security report estimated the disease outbreak risk from the proposed Kansas facility at nearly 70 percent over the next 50 years.



Lord please forgive my blasphemy, but Jesus on a bicycle. How fucking STUPID are these people?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 11, 2012 10:26 AM (4df7R)

374 Explain how she will not turn into her eventually.

Posted by: Jimbo at April 11, 2012 10:26 AM (O3R/2)

375 "On this day in 1921 Iowa imposed the first tax on cigarettes."

That was back when they were touting the health benefits of smoking. (revised in Woody Allen's Sleeper, I think.)

Posted by: dfbaskwill at April 11, 2012 10:27 AM (71LDo)

376
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 11, 2012 10:24 AM (gPDxp)

How much are they worth? Counter Suits are popular these days I hear!

Posted by: tsrblke at April 11, 2012 10:28 AM (SYrwI)

377 Lord please forgive my blasphemy, but Jesus on a bicycle. How fucking STUPID are these people?

About that stupid, I'd say.

Really, who puts a freaking Epidemic Super-Mart in Tornado Ally?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 10:28 AM (8y9MW)

378 @335

Always have a weapon. I was driving over Easter in Myrtle Beach, US 17, when a thug with the treadlocks, SUV and Rims basically tried to run me off the road. He was pretty screwed up and this was at 11:00AM. My son and I could not figure out WTF was his problem, but he kept trying to run us off the road. We backed off and let him go, but he slows down to give us the bird?

We were very calm, my Glock 40 cal was on call. We came very close to letting our thug see it just to make him move along.

The rule, don't pull it out unless you are going to use it.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at April 11, 2012 10:28 AM (hXJOG)

379 flip on FOX and check out inter-in-chiefs groupies tff

Posted by: old glazier at April 11, 2012 10:30 AM (KcINh)

380 357 Thank you. Warren Buffet has made of himself a pain in my balls. I'm waiting to see if he can take it with him.

Posted by: SurferDoc at April 11, 2012 10:30 AM (6H6FZ)

381
367 SRSLY, is that how an adult deals with a situation?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 11, 2012 10:24 AM (gPDxp)


No. It's how a self-absorbed bitch with money signs in her eyes deals with a situation.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 11, 2012 10:30 AM (4df7R)

382 352kdny vs. EoJ.

kdny's way out of her(?) league, but we're still seeing more fight than usual. Promise, that one has.

Gonna need some more popcorn here. I love the smell of troll's blood in the morning. Smells like...victory.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, in Cylon hell at April 11, 2012 10:18 AM (GBXon)
Kdny is not a troll, I believe, and I think that s/heis holdingher/hisown just fine, aided by the fact that EoJ seems to think that crudity and emotionarevalid substitutes for wit and reason.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 11, 2012 10:31 AM (zj1Yv)

383 Brandishing a firearm is illegal, in a lot of places. Don't pull it out until you have to use it.

Posted by: Jimbo at April 11, 2012 10:31 AM (O3R/2)

384 CNN covering the president's entire campaign event again, in real time. Shouldn't rinse pre bus ask for equal time every time this happens?

Posted by: Mittens! at April 11, 2012 10:31 AM (oZfic)

385 Well, that is enough of the internet dozens for me. If by staying longest you win so be it.

Enjoy the rest of your Earl Grey Tea, EOJ.

Posted by: kdny at April 11, 2012 10:32 AM (63qg4)

386 Who watches CNN? Oh yeah, all those captives at the airport.


Posted by: Jimbo at April 11, 2012 10:33 AM (O3R/2)

387 Goddamn, what is with the fucking obsession over the Buffet rule? No one gives a flying fuck. JOBS JOBS JOBS.

Posted by: Kaitian at April 11, 2012 10:34 AM (et2m1)

388 How much are they worth? Counter Suits are popular these days I hear! - Posted by: tsrblke at April 11, 2012 10:28 AM (SYrwI)

----------------

I am picturing in my head the scene where she goes into a lawyer's office and says she wants to sue me because my son went too far with her daughter (yes, he cops to that) and because she has heard rumors that he has done improper things to other girls in my house. (My son is a horny teenager, granted, but he's also quite a nerd and has hardly ever had girls over, so unless he has a massive Jeckyll and Hyde thing going on....)

She said in her txts that according to her friend who "works in the legal profession" that there are "many, many ways you will be held liabble (sic)" for his actions. I may have only had a year and a half of law school, but this seems pretty dubious to me.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 11, 2012 10:34 AM (4li1Y)

389 Posted by: Jimbo at April 11, 2012 10:33 AM (O3R/2)

The other day a guy pulled out a remote, did a little tinkering and changed the channel. Even the airline employees cheered.

Posted by: Mittens! at April 11, 2012 10:34 AM (oZfic)

390 If (oZfic) were a tree, what kind of tree would it be?

If it fell in the forest, would anyone care?

Posted by: Baba Wawa at April 11, 2012 10:35 AM (S7ZyK)

391 FWIW, it was her daughter who snuck out of her house in wee hours to meet up with my son.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 11, 2012 10:35 AM (4li1Y)

392 How fucking STUPID are these people?

Never, ever, ever ask that question. They take it as a challenge.

On the always having weapons thing, there's nothing like having a mag light (the very large one), a pair of stilletos, a lighter and hair spray. Otherwise known asa club, a pair of daggers and a flame thrower.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 10:36 AM (VtjlW)

393 Really, who puts a freaking Epidemic Super-Mart in Tornado Ally?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 10:28 AM (8y9MW)

Apparently our idiot Homeland Security Department.

I love that it's a "Bio and Agro-Defense Facility." So essentially they want to put a factory for the testing of devastating biological and agricultural epidemics IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FRICKING CORN BELT.

Sweet holy fucksticks on Christmas morning. I think I have actually shredded my last nerve reading this story. I have none left.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 11, 2012 10:36 AM (4df7R)

394 14
Everyone keeps talking about Juan and how if we had just had the right
candidate we would have won in 2008. Please tell us which of your dream
candidates would have won.
======
Zombie Reagan or Robot Nixon, easily.

Posted by: jimmuy at April 11, 2012 10:38 AM (kSaUf)

395 gregory

seriously....i'd file a restraining order and get your own attorney to write her a letter asking her to cease and desist the threats to you.....if she feels your son committed some criminal act upon your daughter...she should contact the police....otherwise you could interpret her actions as a prelude to extortion.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 11, 2012 10:38 AM (Ho2rs)

396 383
Brandishing a firearm is illegal, in a lot of places. Don't pull it out until you have to use it.


Posted by: Jimbo at April 11, 2012 10:31 AM (O3R/2)

It's only illegal if you get caught. I was driving in Downtown baltimore the day before Christmas a long time ago and a bunch of "youths" jumped from a bench in front of my car. I stopped and they started to encircle my car. The street was practically deserted. Fortunately for me I had my Ruger .40 in the console. I let these little honor students observe such hardware and they decided to quietly go back to their bench.

Posted by: Hedgehog at April 11, 2012 10:38 AM (3jGS1)

397 there's nothing like having a mag light (the very large one)

I had a friend who would weld (solder?) an inch thick ring around the back end of one of the 4D mag lights. When asked by anyone official, he'd say he had a bad habit of dropping it when he was out camping, and the ring helped him hold onto it better.

This is the same guy who jokes that Shillelagh is Gaelic for "Really, officer, this is my walking stick!"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 10:39 AM (8y9MW)

398 You can blame a deal made with the someone in the Kansas congressional delegation for that facility move.


That is the way ALL government facility locations work.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 10:39 AM (YdQQY)

399 She said in her txts that according to her friend who "works in the legal profession" that there are "many, many ways you will be held liabble (sic)" for his actions. I may have only had a year and a half of law school, but this seems pretty dubious to me.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 11, 2012 10:34 AM (4li1Y)


Good grief. This woman sounds insane.

The only thing I can think of would be if your son and this girl had been "sexting" naughty pictures to each other. That could count as distribution of child pornography, as opposed to stupid kids acting likekids and doing stupid things. Have you talked to your son about what exactly this crazy bitch is yammering on about?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 11, 2012 10:40 AM (4df7R)

400 The other day a guy pulled out a remote, did a little tinkering and changed the channel. Even the airline employees cheered.

I got stuck in an airport during the NFL playoffs one year and a maintenance worker came out, took one look at the unruly mob, went back and got a remote, came out and put the game on. He was hailed as a great hero.

My old office used to have the tv in the front lobby on MSNBC. I would wander out and change it to ESPN or MLB network once baseball season started. Passive aggressive? Sure but it's the little things that kept me from going on a spree.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 10:40 AM (VtjlW)

401 There will be no 2016 elections...well, unless the roving bands of marauders decide to elect new leadership...that usually doesn't happen though.

Posted by: Cast Iron at April 11, 2012 10:40 AM (EL+OC)

402
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 11, 2012 10:34 AM (4li1Y)

IANAL, but unless there's a kid born, I'm not entirely sure what she'd come after your son for. Unless there's an age thing happening. Or you live in IL, the the laws there are really really really weird.

Good Luck to you. Don't take it out on your son too much (but I guess remind him about the consequences of crazy people.)

Posted by: tsrblke at April 11, 2012 10:40 AM (SYrwI)

403
If (oZfic) were a tree, what kind of tree would it be?>>

A female ginkgo bilobatree.

http://tinyurl.com/6qjvcxs

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 11, 2012 10:40 AM (tf9Ne)

404 You can blame a deal made with the someone in the Kansas congressional delegation for that facility move.

And I'm sure all they saw were dollar-signs and jobs numbers.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 10:40 AM (8y9MW)

405 Wow, you get a lot of comments so I doubt if anyone will read this and somebody I hope has already pointed this out, but McConnell is the minority leader.

Posted by: redneek24 at April 11, 2012 10:42 AM (/DeBx)

406 buzzsaw

the lyrics it posted are probably it's own anthem.....talking about attention seeking whores.....that one takes the cake.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 11, 2012 10:42 AM (Ho2rs)

407
EoJ seems to think that crudity and emotionarevalid substitutes for wit and reason. <<<

They've gotten me this far, so I don't see any reason to change. Always nice to meet a fan
God bless.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 10:44 AM (zacpj)

408 The problem with crazy people is they don't seem crazy to themselves, and they have a lot energy. Yes, I am looking into an attorney.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 11, 2012 10:44 AM (4li1Y)

409 #158. Except Romney never got 2/3 of the vote outside of Mormon Utah. He keeps getting between 33 and 45% of the vote while outspending opponents 5 and 6 to 1 -all of it going to misleading attack ads.

#208. I was for Romney in 2008 because I felt the economy would be the big issue in November and because in 2008 Romney was a fresh face to counter Obama's fresh face. This year I suspect it is going to be personal freedom. The economy is but a small part of that issue. Watch Obama try to use Romney's Mormonism to justify his own attacks on religious freedom, particular in forcing the Catholic Church to accept abortion and gay marriage or get out of the business of providing charitable services. The feds after all did wage war on the Mormon Church and forced them to change doctrine as a condition for admitting Utah into the Union.

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at April 11, 2012 10:45 AM (a6uZb)

410
398 You can blame a deal made with the someone in the Kansas congressional delegation for that facility move.
That is the way ALL government facility locations work.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 10:39 AM (YdQQY)


True dat.

It's cute that it's a demonrat from Montana who's asking Napolitano to reconsider the move.

“What are the estimated costs of renovating the Plum Island Center (in New York) to the operational and safety standards required?” Tester asked. “Are there any efforts underway by DHS to identify alternative sites for the proposed facility?”

I'll answer his questions the way any government flunkie worth his or her salt would answer:

1) Too high; and
2) No

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 11, 2012 10:45 AM (4df7R)

411 ""Lord please forgive my blasphemy, but Jesus on a bicycle. How fucking STUPID are these people?""



Well, how stupid would you like them to be? lol

Posted by: Berserker at April 11, 2012 10:46 AM (FMbng)

412 They've gotten me this far, so I don't see any reason to change. Always nice to meet a fan
God bless.


You know, I can't get over this mental image of EoJ as a bookish kind of nerd- captain of the chess team team, whose really very mild mannered and polite- almost deferential- in real life.

Probably likes tea and crumpets. I'm not even sure what a 'crumpet' is, but there you go.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 10:46 AM (8y9MW)

413 Gregory -- lawyer NOW! Son + stick Later

Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2012 10:47 AM (WkuV6)

414 A crumpet is that thing on the end of a shoelace, isn't it?

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at April 11, 2012 10:48 AM (SP/dK)

415 A crumpet is what they call a piece of a $1000 pizza at a DNC fundraiser.

Posted by: Roy at April 11, 2012 10:49 AM (VndSC)

416 407
EoJ seems to think that crudity and emotionarevalid substitutes for wit and reason. <<<

They've gotten me this far, so I don't see any reason to change. Always nice to meet a fan
God bless.Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 10:44 AM (zacpj)
I might add that none of these are mutually exclusive, and you manage to get a bit of everything in your posts. Today was an exception, alas.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 11, 2012 10:49 AM (zj1Yv)

417 A crumpet is apparently an English muffin, a al Thomas'

Posted by: Jimbo at April 11, 2012 10:49 AM (O3R/2)

418 Probably likes tea and crumpets. I'm not even sure what a 'crumpet' is, but there you go.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 10:46 AM (8y9MW)


I envision EoJ responding to your comment with something along the lines of:

"Change crumpets to strumpets and lose the tea."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 11, 2012 10:50 AM (4df7R)

419 I always thought a crumpet was a high-class hooker.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 11, 2012 10:51 AM (RD7QR)

420 Having worked there - Plum Island cannot be moved, period. The only operational facility that would be close would be Baker Lab at DPG, and that could not handle the volume, and has a host of "other" issues.

I suspect some developer with deep pockets wants to develop it. It is a beautiful place, and except for guy who watches you shower in/out, a great place to work.

Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2012 10:51 AM (WkuV6)

421 >>
181 Santorum just plain rubs me the wrong way.I am not alone.


Posted by: steevy

No pun intended, I take it, as there will be no rubbing except for reproductive purposes only.

Posted by: Ricky Santorum at April 11, 2012 10:51 AM (VMcEw)

422 Ooh, now they're running in packs! Grey Fox stepping up where kdny left off...it's like a tag team vs. Godzilla, not a bad subcard if you like slapstick, but you know it ends up with Godzilla scraping something off his foot.

Me, I'm just lovin' the popcorn.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, in Cylon hell at April 11, 2012 10:52 AM (GBXon)

423 I always thought a crumpet was a high-class hooker.

You're thinking of a Trumpette.

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at April 11, 2012 10:53 AM (SP/dK)

424 I'm not even sure what a 'crumpet' is

What happens after Chris Christie accidentally sits on a Buescher Truetone.

Posted by: Baba Wawa at April 11, 2012 10:53 AM (S7ZyK)

425 @397 - I think JB Weld or the Devcon aluminum-filled epoxy would work just fine.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2012 10:54 AM (o+SC1)

426 Hmmm...

"Md. Criminal law Code Ann. § 3-805. Misuse of electronic mail. (2002) "A person may not use electronic mail with the intent to harass one or more persons..."

The statutory definition of 'electronic mail' appears to include texting.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 11, 2012 10:54 AM (4li1Y)

427 Well right about now romney should be building his faux Airforce 1 so he can fly around the world and pretend to be president, maybe stick his nose into some foreign policy shit......just like that fuckstick obama did during bush's term.

Posted by: Berserker at April 11, 2012 10:54 AM (FMbng)

428 I had a friend who would weld (solder?) an inch thick ring around the back end of one of the 4D mag lights. When asked by anyone official, he'd say he had a bad habit of dropping it when he was out camping, and the ring helped him hold onto it better.

The 4D mag lights are fantastic weapons. And officer, of course it is a flashlight look! I can signal space aliens with it!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 10:55 AM (VtjlW)

429 A crumpet, btw, is a yummy little griddle cake similar to an english muffin, but with more bite to it, like a bagel. I love the word -- it's so very English.

This concludes MWR's Moment of Anglophilia for today. Please tip your waitress.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 11, 2012 10:55 AM (4df7R)

430 Actually, thanks to Phinneas and Ferb, I happen to know that that's an aglet.

(sings)
A G L E T -Don't forget it!

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 10:55 AM (8y9MW)

431 @142 I'm seriously lacking motivation today... I'm slowly coming to terms with a Romney Candidacy, and he's said things in the last couple of days that make me hate his guts a little less, but it'll probably take a couple of weeks before I can say "Romney for President!" with a straight face.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012
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Lots of us in that boat.

Good post by John Hawkins on the subject:
http://tinyurl.com/7h67wrq

Note, however, that the bounced check Hawkins references from Newt's campaign to Utah (which was gleefully reported in the Salt Lake Trib) has been reported by Laura Ingraham (who checked with the Gingrich campaign) to be because of a technical error. No correction from the Strib.

Posted by: Y-not at April 11, 2012 10:55 AM (5H6zj)

432 EoJ for Ambassador to the UN in the next Administration

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at April 11, 2012 10:56 AM (zgwWv)

433 @326 tsrblke

Remember that the GOP started because of the failure of the Whigs to address the salient issue of the 1840's and early 1850's, the expansion of slavery into the Territories. Eventually, this morphed into questioning the very existence of The Pecuiliar Institution itself in the South. The Whigs were the Establishment GOP of their day and died because they were not willing to get past their own willingness to negotiate with themselves over the issue of Slavery, while Democrats by and large defended the institution's continued existence in the South to keep their coalition together.

John C. Fremont, a very young Abraham Lincoln, and other Whigs built the Republican Party out of the ashes of the Compromise of 1850.

My take is that were are faced with a danger that is nearly as acute as that of 1860, national insolvency, one made more acute by Obama's socialist overreach and will-to-power. The GOP is apparently convinced that gaining a few committee chairmanships in the Senate will set things aright. They have no idea what is going on in the country, and lost touch with Reaganism a long time ago. People like Palin, Ron Paul, and Santorum are scorned by the Party. And the Party's idea of a New Idea is the Ryan Plan, which doesn't consider balancing the budget for forty years.

The unseriousness of this effort is astounding. The resemblance of the GOP to Canada's old, bankrupt Progressive Conservatives or the Whigs grows with each passing day.

It is in this environment that a viable Third Party coalition of conservatives and libertarians becomes not only possible, but probable. The GOP in Washington turned away from the ideas that made it a great coalition under Reagan. Now, it is about Chairmanships and Swag. That's not a party that deserves to win elections, or to continue to exist for that matter.

Posted by: section9 at April 11, 2012 10:56 AM (CUoon)

434 Zombie Reagan or Robot Nixon, easily. Mittens is Robot Nixon

Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2012 10:56 AM (WkuV6)

435 EoJ for Ambassador to the UN in the next Administration

I really really really want to be press secretary. Think of how enjoyable those daily briefings would be.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 10:58 AM (VtjlW)

436 3D MagLight with the aftermarket LED kit is awesome. Both as a club and a flashlight.

Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2012 10:58 AM (WkuV6)

437 According to Drudge, DOJ has filed an anti-trust suit against Apple and some e-book publishers on pricing practices.

I call bullshit. First - fits the pattern of DOJ suing any company achieving free-market success. Did it with IBM and ATT, so why not Apple?

Second - what market could be much more competitive than the market for books? The sub-market for e-books is an artificial thing; it's "stuff to read", Stupid. No one could ever control that market. What a great example of socialism at work - wealth re-distribution at its most efficient!

Posted by: Workin' for the Man Every Night & Day at April 11, 2012 10:59 AM (eMtQ2)

438 Speaking of popcorn... I saw a comment a few weeks ago where someone said to use bacon grease instead of oil when making popcorn. Has anyone ever tried this?

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at April 11, 2012 10:59 AM (niW49)

439 427

Vero possumus?

Posted by: kallisto at April 11, 2012 11:00 AM (jm/9g)

440 It's 11AM: Do you know where your Ewoks are?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 11, 2012 11:02 AM (4df7R)

441 OJ has filed an anti-trust suit against Apple and some e-book publishers on pricing practices.
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Actually as much as I hate our current DOJ, e-book publishers ARE conspiring to fix prices on e-books. The one that is going out of its way to fight this is Baen.


Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 11:02 AM (YdQQY)

442 That's not a party that deserves to win elections, or to continue to exist for that matter.

It's a coin flip whether either party survives to 2020. The Ds will disintegrate if the economy collapses and they don't have federal largesse to hand out.

Posted by: Heorot at April 11, 2012 11:02 AM (Nq/UF)

443 @437 Now that Jobs is gone, Apple must have stopped paying Protection to the Obami.


Posted by: section9 at April 11, 2012 11:03 AM (CUoon)

444 It matters less to me how good a man Santorum is than the fact that he's a senator. I don't like senators as presidents, they tend to run the country like everything's a campaign or a roll call on the floor -- everything is about getting votes, rather than actually running things. Too disconnected from reality. Romney is far from my first choice, but at least he's got executive experience.

Posted by: Socratease at April 11, 2012 11:03 AM (HKklw)

445 422Ooh, now they're running in packs! Grey Fox stepping up where kdny left off...it's like a tag team vs. Godzilla, not a bad subcard if you like slapstick, but you know it ends up with Godzilla scraping something off his foot.

Me, I'm just lovin' the popcorn.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, in Cylon hell at April 11, 2012 10:52 AM (GBXon)
I haven't got any particular bone to pick with EoJ, except that I thought he was being unpleasant and uncharacteristically unwitty this morning. I will fight with you, though, if you want. You will have to put down the popcorn, though.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 11, 2012 11:03 AM (zj1Yv)

446 439
427



Vero possumus?

Posted by: kallisto at April 11, 2012 11:00 AM (jm/9g)

Probably in your garbage. Stay up one night and scare them off with your .22.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 11, 2012 11:04 AM (RD7QR)

447 Apple has more cash then the Feds, and based on what I saw at the SCOTUS, can hire better lawyers. Some mid-level Fed is going to get hammered over this call. The whole e-book/music distribution industry is rife with collusion and price fixing -- always has been.

Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2012 11:05 AM (WkuV6)

448 I would bet that Florida indicts and jails Zimmerman. The threat of violence and riot is just too much. Zimmerman will be sacrificed for the peace.

Probably literally, since I expect he would not survive jail.

Posted by: Blaster at April 11, 2012 11:06 AM (Fw2Gg)

449 So Y-not i assume you then believe the bounced check story to be True but False.

Posted by: polynikes at April 11, 2012 11:07 AM (eKmTe)

450 I would bet that Florida indicts and jails Zimmerman. The threat of
violence and riot is just too much. Zimmerman will be sacrificed for
the peace.


I hate to even bring up this prospect, but has anyone confirmed they've heard from Zimmerman since Sunday? I know they put up a web-page for him, but his lawyers haven't heard from him since then.

All that would have to happen is for one of the NBPP bounty hunters to get lucky.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 11:08 AM (8y9MW)

451 @437 Now that Jobs is gone, Apple must have stopped paying Protection to the Obami.

Or someone else is paying more. Maybe that's where the e-book bidding war is happening.

Posted by: Retread at April 11, 2012 11:08 AM (joSBv)

452 Blaster - that would save NBC a tidy sum

Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2012 11:09 AM (WkuV6)

453 ABO 2012

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Lives at April 11, 2012 11:09 AM (yAor6)

454 I don't know that it would save NBC money I suspect the Zimmerman family will get a big ass settlement.

Posted by: Blaster at April 11, 2012 11:10 AM (Fw2Gg)

455 And I think Hannity was in contact with Zimmerman yesterday?

Posted by: Blaster at April 11, 2012 11:11 AM (Fw2Gg)

456 Never fear - Eric Holder is on the case! http://is.gd/hrzByA

Posted by: Gerry at April 11, 2012 11:11 AM (ngbdz)

457 453 author

amen

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 11, 2012 11:11 AM (Ho2rs)

458 btw w/e AOS/HHR Romneybot is following me into the Hedgehog Report blog and attacking me for not being a Romney guy from the very begining, you need a chill pill buddy

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Lives at April 11, 2012 11:12 AM (yAor6)

459 Zimmerman is nuts for cutting off his lawyers who made a great defense of him yesterday. He needs professional help not 15 min. of fame w/ Hannity

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Lives at April 11, 2012 11:13 AM (yAor6)

460 I'm in a bad mood. How about some Reagan?

“The only true measure of a welfare program’s success is how many people it makes independent of welfare.” – Ronald Reagan

Posted by: Y-not at April 11, 2012 11:13 AM (5H6zj)

461 @426 - 'round here we have a cop shop that will actually talk to you about stuff like that, assuming you're not concerned about your son's behavior involving:

a) the word 'statutory'
b) the use of force
c) concealing some medical condition like that Unibit stepped-bore drill bit genetic deformity

and her texts really DO rise to the level of harassment you might go file a report to get it documented.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2012 11:14 AM (o+SC1)

462 458 btw w/e AOS/HHR Romneybot is following me into the Hedgehog Report blog and attacking me for not being a Romney guy from the very begining,
-----------
I am convinced that a couple of the ones who've come out of the woodwork here in recent weeks are Dem operatives. They are not helping Romney.

Posted by: Y-not at April 11, 2012 11:15 AM (5H6zj)

463
Tens of millions of dollars in negative ads targeting him....in a primary, the GOP establishment doing everything they can to get their liberal choice of Romneycare the nomination, and so-called 'conservative' bloggers forgiving Romney for every single thing he ever did in the past (since he never accomplished anything conservative as an elected official) and doing their best to help him along.........that is why Santorum is out.

Now for the fun part, all the guns are going to be turned back onto Newt because all of a sudden he is going to be in the 40% range.

Posted by: doug at April 11, 2012 11:15 AM (gUGI6)

464 doug

you think newt will be in the 40% range?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 11, 2012 11:16 AM (Ho2rs)

465 @444 - Santorum is just too much of a Huckabee, too likely to lead the GOP into a Terri Schiavo coffin-corner (pun not intended).

For every social-con who wants a Santorum there's two voters somewhere who run away screaming.




Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2012 11:17 AM (o+SC1)

466 Now for the fun part, all the guns are going to be turned back onto Newt
because all of a sudden he is going to be in the 40% range.


Seriously? The guy whose $500.00 check bounced, and he hasn't responded to the NV GOP in nearly a month about the issue, is suddenly going to be in the 40% range?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 11:18 AM (8y9MW)

467 Actually as much as I hate our current DOJ, e-book
publishers ARE conspiring to fix prices on e-books. The one that is
going out of its way to fight this is Baen.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 11:02 AM (YdQQY)

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Sorry - the market just shouldn't be viewed that narrowly. People can still read the same stuff in other formats. They may like e-books better, but that doesn't justify DOJ getting away with that narrow a market definition. You can always find people liking one thing better than some other thing; you can't define a market that way when you're imposing Draconian governmental penalties.

Posted by: Workin' for the Man Every Night & Day at April 11, 2012 11:18 AM (eMtQ2)

468 actually Y-Not I think I know who it is. if you follow my comments I was undecided while leaning Perry and very anti-Romney. By late Jan/early Feb I came around to Romney before anyone else who was a Perry guy/gal. App. this Romneybot thinks im not pure enough because I didnt back him from the get go and ive had issues w/ some statements by Romney people. This person has issues to stalk me on another blog and bring up issues there that aren't important there.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Lives at April 11, 2012 11:18 AM (yAor6)

469 367 SRSLY, is that how an adult deals with a situation?
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 11, 2012 10:24 AM (gPDxp)



No, and you should probably lawyer up sooner rather than later. You might also be dealing with someone who has a personality disorder, so be careful.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 11, 2012 11:18 AM (v+QvA)

470 sudden he is going to be in the 40% range.

I'd be shocked. I think it's over.

Posted by: Mister Mxyzptlk at April 11, 2012 11:18 AM (GTbGH)

471 @463
Nah, Newt is not a threat. (And he's my preference of the non-Perrys.)

I think he's staying in to raise money and also, secondarily, to try to be some sort of factor at the convention.

I really don't see any effect of Newt's presence in the campaign on Romney at this point, so to me there is no problem with him staying in. If Romney *does* go after him it would surprise me and disappoint me. There is a slight chance Newt will give voice at the convention to a segment of the party who need to be mobilized.

Posted by: Y-not at April 11, 2012 11:19 AM (5H6zj)

472 I HIGHLY doubt Newt is going anywhere any time soon

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Lives at April 11, 2012 11:19 AM (yAor6)

473 >>Posted by: AuthorLMendez Lives at April 11, 2012 11:18 AM

Some people have too much time on their hands.

Hey, did you start your postdoc yet?

Posted by: Y-not at April 11, 2012 11:20 AM (5H6zj)

474 It is my personal belief that most of us will end up voting for Romney in the general.

Except the ones who don't.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 11, 2012 11:20 AM (4df7R)

475 Romney would be dumb to fight Newt, he needs to make it all about Obama right now

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Lives at April 11, 2012 11:20 AM (yAor6)

476 Posted by: doug at April 11, 2012 11:15 AM (gUGI6)


Umm, sorry to be a wet blanket but Newt's campaign is just as dead as Santorum's. Newt is hanging on for a place on Mitt's team and/or Mitt's help in retiring his campaign debt. Romney. Is. The. Nominee. Stop squirming and take your medicine.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 11, 2012 11:20 AM (RD7QR)

477 @473 not yet, i've ben obsessed w/ crunching the numbers on the election and I gotta say we need to catch up to Obama, he's had a good headstart

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Lives at April 11, 2012 11:22 AM (yAor6)

478 Sorry - the market just shouldn't be viewed that narrowly. People can still read the same stuff in other formats.

This. E-books aren't just competing with other E-books, they're competing with paper books as well. Also, at the rates most publishers work, the transition from "traditional" to "ebook" doesn't really save them that much money. It's not hard to believe a paperback, at least, isn't much more than a dollar cheaper to produce as an e-book instead of as an actual book.

The publishers still have to pay their staff and the author, after all, and whoever actually sells you the book (Amazon, or whoever) is still looking to turn a profit, too.

And, quite frankly, it's none of the DoJ's business, even if the field was more narrow. People still have free will- if they don't like the value they're getting for an ebook, they don't have to buy one.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 11:22 AM (8y9MW)

479
I am upping the probability of Zimmerman's body being found in the next ten 10 days (by his own hands) to 65%.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 11, 2012 11:22 AM (jUytm)

480 Newt is hanging on for a place on Mitt's team and/or Mitt's help in retiring his campaign debt.

---

Yeah, I think more the latter than the former, not because I think Newt wouldn't take a job from Romney but mostly because Team Romney damaged Newt so much with the "he's CRAZY!11!!!" talk that there's no way they can appoint him to the team now.

Posted by: Y-not at April 11, 2012 11:23 AM (5H6zj)

481 @479 I think the pressure is getting to him myself, hopefully he doesn't do anything rash

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Lives at April 11, 2012 11:24 AM (yAor6)

482 Actually as much as I hate our current DOJ, e-book

publishers ARE conspiring to fix prices on e-books.

Posted by: Vic at April 11, 2012 11:02 AM (YdQQY)


Meh. Who cares? They can't put any sort of lid on something so easy to copy and small as a book file. Let them try to keep gouging people. Piracy will just go through the roof.

People who think they can charge and arm and a leg for something that anyone can just pick up off the street for nothing will soon find themselves out of existence.

What keeps the ebook prices up, though, is not collusion on the part of the distributors but the government supports of textbooks and academic books (keeping prics in the "way insane" range). WIthout that distortion of the book market, prices would naturally fall to where they should be for ebooks ... about $0.35 a download.

But, the government wants to keep perverting the market and the distributors want to keep trying to draft off the government screwing up the market ... then piracy will be the way the normal person will go. Such is life.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 11, 2012 11:24 AM (X3lox)

483 Holy crap!

"Friess suggested he might support the Karl Rove-linked Crossroads groups, which are planning to spend as much as $300 million attacking President Barack Obama and boosting Romney."

Obama is barely on pace to raise $200 million.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 11, 2012 11:25 AM (9t6jP)

484 479 I am upping the probability of Zimmerman's body being found in the next ten 10 days (by his own hands) to 65%.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 11, 2012 11:22 AM (jUytm)



I also fear that will be the outcome. I can't imagine what it must feel like to be so publicly hated, vilified, threatened and hunted. The fear and desperation are probably overwhelming.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 11, 2012 11:25 AM (v+QvA)

485 No one has time for bronchitis, especially not Sweet Brown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaAd8OuwwPk

Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at April 11, 2012 11:25 AM (rNv6U)

486
I am upping the probability of Zimmerman's body being found in the next ten 10 days (by his own hands) to 65%.

And the usual suspects will feel no culpability whatsoever.

Posted by: nickless at April 11, 2012 11:25 AM (MMC8r)

487
The Urban Dictionary defines "crumpet" as British slang for "a hot chick.

I like crumpets.

Not a fan of hot tea. Big fan of sweet tea. I know the rules of chess, but have little experience playing the game.

Bookish? Definitely. Nerdy? Depends on the topic. Sexual Tyrannosaurus? Only on days ending in "Y."

And I would gladly accept a job as Ambassador to the U.N. because it would mean that we had a President and a Senate who were ready to tell that menagerie of savages to fuck off.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 11:25 AM (zacpj)

488 And, quite frankly, it's none of the DoJ's business,
even if the field was more narrow. People still have free will- if they
don't like the value they're getting for an ebook, they don't have to
buy one.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 11:22 AM (8y9MW)

My theory: DoJ thinks that when the price of a Kindle gets below $50 things will really start to accelerate toward e-books so they want to gain control ASAP. Because they're control freaks.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 11, 2012 11:25 AM (RD7QR)

489
Zimmerman probably feels right now that he'll never have a normal life, which is probably a fair assessment.

I have no doubt he's contemplating ending it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 11, 2012 11:26 AM (jUytm)

490 And, quite frankly, it's none of the DoJ's business,
even if the field was more narrow. People still have free will- if they
don't like the value they're getting for an ebook, they don't have to
buy one.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 11:22 AM (8y9MW)
-------------------Exactly. Looks to me like the suit is just about Apple being successful - world's biggest business, I think. Simply a re-distribution target; that's all.Abuse of power.

Posted by: Workin' for the Man Every Night & Day at April 11, 2012 11:26 AM (eMtQ2)

491 ""I think the pressure is getting to him myself, hopefully he doesn't do anything rash.""




Like hunting some NBPP scumbags? If I was going to off myself, I would take as many as those assholes I could with me.

Posted by: Berserker at April 11, 2012 11:26 AM (FMbng)

492 And the usual suspects will feel no culpability whatsoever.
Posted by: nickless at April 11, 2012 11:25 AM (MMC8r)

-------------------

The usual suspects will feel gratification. Every leftist is a murderer in his heart.

Posted by: Reactionary at April 11, 2012 11:26 AM (xUM1Q)

493 Zimmerman's attorneys quit because Zimmerman did not follow their advice and talked to the Prosecutor. That tells me he feels he has nothing to hide and is confident in his innocence. He has strong family support so I don't think he is a suicide risk.

Posted by: polynikes at April 11, 2012 11:27 AM (eKmTe)

494
I have no doubt he's contemplating ending it.

I'm sure he's regretting what's happening to his parents.

Posted by: nickless at April 11, 2012 11:27 AM (MMC8r)

495
And the usual suspects will feel no culpability whatsoever.

You mean the Shameless and Unaccountable crowd from the Left?

Yep.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 11, 2012 11:27 AM (jUytm)

496
Right. I didn't even take into account the impact on his family.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 11, 2012 11:28 AM (jUytm)

497 If Zimmerman winds up dead, we will have a race war...just in case he's lurking.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 11, 2012 11:29 AM (Ec6wH)

498 The Bob Owen's mea culpa atonement piece over on PJ Media is a good summary of the Zimmerman case to date.

Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2012 11:29 AM (WkuV6)

499
I think Zimmerman's call to the prosecutor went something like this: "What are you doing to me???"

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 11, 2012 11:30 AM (jUytm)

500 If Zimmerman winds up dead, we will have a race war

Started by whom? Hispanic groups have been conspicuously absent from this whole thing, and the media has been blaring "white hispanic" as loud as they can for the last couple of weeks.

The only ways I can see a race war starting if he ends up dead are if a) he actually is killed by someone "seeking revenge," or b) if the Media and Usual Suspect Race Baiters actively agitate for one by pointing out that he'll never be found guilty- and that with his death also goes any chance of a civil suit for Martin's family.

But, on their own, I don't think most of the mob will think that far, so I it would take actual agitation on the part of the MFM and the Race Baiters.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 11:33 AM (8y9MW)

501 "EoJ seems to think that crudity and emotionarevalid substitutes for wit and reason."

---------------------------

Considering EoJ is one of the smartest AND wittiest posters on this damn site, I'd say you're pretty fucking clueless.

Posted by: Balsamic Shotgun at April 11, 2012 11:33 AM (sTS/8)

502 How does that call happen? How does the prosecutor verify they are talking to Zimmerman, why would they talk to him without counsel present, how did they know that the conversation wasn't recorded, etc. Prosecutors bring people in and control the situation, except for the most minor witnesses - bizarre.

Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2012 11:33 AM (WkuV6)

503 Don't mind me, Grey Fox. I'm just here for the floor show today.

Now if you want to fight over something more important than whether EoJ rubbed you the wrong way in the wrong way (that's actually less redundant than you may think), that can be negotiated...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, in Cylon hell at April 11, 2012 11:33 AM (GBXon)

504 I might add that the race war would be initiated by those whose lust for revenge isn't satisfied with just Zimmerman's demise.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 11, 2012 11:34 AM (Ec6wH)

505 "I also fear that will be the outcome. I can't imagine what it must feel
like to be so publicly hated, vilified, threatened and hunted. The fear
and desperation are probably overwhelming."

Add in that the poor bastard is a democrat and an activist in the black community. Everything he has ever believed has been exposed as untrue.

And we're still forgetting that the killing itself probably has caused post-traumatic stress...

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at April 11, 2012 11:34 AM (0tRzD)

506
Yesterday: "The special prosecutor, Florida State Attorney Angela Corey, has alerted the media that she "is preparing to release new information" about her investigation within the next 72 hours."

1. This isn't helpful.
2. This is irresponsible.

This isn't a game show or a reality show, but she's treating it as such.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 11, 2012 11:34 AM (jUytm)

507 As far as I know, not a single detail of Z's account has been contradicted by evidence.

That seems telling.

Posted by: Mister Mxyzptlk at April 11, 2012 11:35 AM (GTbGH)

508 Posted by: Soothsayer at April 11, 2012 11:34 AM (jUytm)

I disagree. I think she knows that there are race riots in the offing, and I (further) think she's trying to keep them from actually occurring by issuing updates like this, and her statement about the Grand Jury.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 11:35 AM (8y9MW)

509 "is preparing to release new information" about her investigation within the next 72 hours." That sounds exactly like something Mike Nifong used to say.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 11, 2012 11:35 AM (HethX)

510 Considering EoJ is one of the smartest AND wittiest posters on this damn site, I'd say you're pretty fucking clueless.

Pfffft. His Romneybot schtick is just tedious.

Posted by: Heorot at April 11, 2012 11:36 AM (Nq/UF)

511 Friess suggested he might support the Karl
Rove-linked Crossroads groups, which are planning to spend as much as
$300 million attacking President Barack Obama and boosting Romney."




Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 11, 2012 11:25 AM (9t6jP)


But remember: Any mention of a "Republican establishment" is crazy talk

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 11, 2012 11:36 AM (Cw+Gl)

512 "This isn't a game show or a reality show"

Unfortunately that's exactly what this is. And the prize is fame and fortune.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at April 11, 2012 11:37 AM (pVvkk)

513
Well, Allen, either she's a genius or a dunce. We'll find out which very soon.

Either way, Corey is rolling the dice.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 11, 2012 11:37 AM (jUytm)

514 That sounds exactly like something Mike Nifong used to say.

The difference being that Mike Nifong played buddy-buddy with the media from the beginning- even helping to make sure the case gained national attention. The Special Prosecutor had nothing to do with the case until it was already a national story.

Honestly, I get the vibe that she's not opposed to the publicity (what ambitious public official would be?), but that she's mainly concerned with preventing race riots.

Which doesn't speak well for Zimmerman's chances to avoid prosecution, but I suspect that is secondary in her mind.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 11:38 AM (8y9MW)

515
btw, that above quote is from USA Today

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 11, 2012 11:38 AM (jUytm)

516 Well, Allen, either she's a genius or a dunce. We'll find out which very soon.

That's certainly true.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 11:39 AM (8y9MW)

517 I disagree. I think she knows that there are race riots in the offing, and I (further) think she's trying to keep them from actually occurring by issuing updates like this, and her statement about the Grand Jury.Posted by: AllenG

That they may want to wait until all of the potential Spring Break miscreants vacate the state.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 11, 2012 11:39 AM (qfooS)

518 Where can I donate to Karl Rove linked Crossroads? I hear they're going to spend a buttload working to end SCoaMFs dream gig.

Posted by: Darth Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy at April 11, 2012 11:40 AM (pVvkk)

519 From the story of GZ handing fliers out at the black church asking for the investigation into the beating of the homeless BLACK man, I would not put it past GZ to have told the prosecutor to punish him if it will calm the natives.

Or he's planning a shooting spree.

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at April 11, 2012 11:40 AM (SP/dK)

520 Calling someone a Romneybot and then
tedious is the pretty high up on the no self awareness scale.

Posted by: polynikes at April 11, 2012 11:41 AM (eKmTe)

521 they may want to wait until all of the potential Spring Break miscreants vacate the state.

Maybe. I think most of the spring breakers are already back at school, though.

Just a complete WAG, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out she's got nothing with which to prosecute Zimmerman, and knows it, but also knows that actually just proclaiming him innocent would both start race riots and end her career- so she's furiously trying to come up with something with which she can charge him, or trying to figure out some way not to get laughed out of court when she charges him on manslaughter charges.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 11:42 AM (8y9MW)

522 OT: Anyone else noticing a push from Facebook friends for Obama in the last 24 hours? Seems very fake/forced/orchestrated.


Posted by: Dang at April 11, 2012 11:42 AM (Ky1+e)

523 @522 Ive done a good job ridding myself of libs

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Lives at April 11, 2012 11:43 AM (yAor6)

524 Calling someone a Romneybot and then

tedious is the pretty high up on the no self awareness scale.


You're boring.

Posted by: Heorot at April 11, 2012 11:43 AM (Nq/UF)

525
Yep. Big Romney fan. I have sung his praises many times here. And by many, I mean never.

Take your medicine, whiners. Everyone else is taking theirs.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 11:43 AM (zacpj)

526 503Don't mind me, Grey Fox. I'm just here for the floor show today.Posted by: Brother Cavil, in Cylon hell at April 11, 2012 11:33 AM (GBXon)Nuts. Given that this is a written forum, being a spectator involves readingwhilenot writing. You are writing. Ergo, you are not just here for the show, you are actively participating.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 11, 2012 11:44 AM (zj1Yv)

527
Nice to see another THC thread that's turning into a tome.

Read the first 50+ posts, took BIL to coagulation and drove to "work" to find out the drive time and refresh my memory of the location.

No doubt Rush will provide something for a new thread.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 11, 2012 11:44 AM (7+pP9)

528
Here's a very short clip that might lift your spirits.

I call it: Panic At The Disco?

http://tinyurl.com/6psua8f

*an MSNBC panel of Obama rump swabs all agree: Mitt can win it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 11, 2012 11:45 AM (jUytm)

529 Ergo, you are not just here for the show, you are actively participating.

Think of it as being a spectator, MST3K style.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 11:45 AM (8y9MW)

530 Are a lot of people here on their 5th day of no carbs?

Posted by: NO_LIMIT_NINJA at April 11, 2012 11:45 AM (SP/dK)

531 Boring? Tedious? What , did you just buy a new Thesarus?

Posted by: polynikes at April 11, 2012 11:45 AM (eKmTe)

532 I think the trolls are in the same cubicle-farm, planning their next post.

Posted by: USMC 8541 at April 11, 2012 11:46 AM (sGtp+)

533 526: Awwww, no fun with the logic.

Fortunately you're doing most of the work for me. Seems you're the one spoiling for the fight today, frankly, I'm just tossing in two pennies from the peanut gallery. Got nothin' and not pretending otherwise, really...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, in Cylon hell at April 11, 2012 11:46 AM (GBXon)

534
I think the trolls are in the same cubicle-farm, planning their next post.


That would make them even more sad.

Think about it- with our quality of troll, how stupid must they be when they can't do any better as a team?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 11:47 AM (8y9MW)

535 525
Yep. Big Romney fan. I have sung his praises many times here. And by many, I mean never.

Take your medicine, whiners. Everyone else is taking theirs.Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 11:43 AM (zacpj)
Didn't you used to do a "Romneybot" sock mocking Romney supporters on this site? I think that is what he was referring to, not calling you an actual romneybot.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 11, 2012 11:47 AM (zj1Yv)

536 Well, Allen, either she's a genius or a dunce. We'll find out which very soon.

That's certainly true.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 11:39 AM (8y9MW)

In the words of the unparalleled philosopher-poet David St. Hubbins, "It's a fine line between clever and stupid."

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 11, 2012 11:47 AM (4q5tP)

537 Soothsayer -- or the fundraiser side needs a boost

Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2012 11:47 AM (WkuV6)

538 Newt on Huckabee Radio: "I finally get Romney one-on-one".

Yeah Newt, I fully expect the 8% you've been polling to jump all the way to 12%.

Posted by: Killjoy at April 11, 2012 11:48 AM (ViYK+)

539 Nice to see another THC thread that's turning into a tome.

Huh? This is a THC thread? Who's bogarting the joint, then?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 11, 2012 11:48 AM (X3lox)

540 Think about it- with our quality of troll, how stupid must they be when they can't do any better as a team?

It's worse--they're getting worked up over lil' ol' me, and I didn't even express an opinion of substance?

Sad, guys, real sad...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, in Cylon hell at April 11, 2012 11:48 AM (GBXon)

541
And here's The Hammer distilling the cockamamie Buffett Tax in just 90 seconds.

http://tinyurl.com/7jm74al

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 11, 2012 11:49 AM (jUytm)

542 a tome? this thread won't touch a 1000 - much less some of the past epics

Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2012 11:50 AM (WkuV6)

543 I've decided to start mocking Obama's "#ReaganRule" on Twitter.

Come join me, won't you?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 11:51 AM (8y9MW)

544 Sweet Fancy Moses, you people are still here?

Posted by: reason at April 11, 2012 11:52 AM (sPO/s)

545
@535,

Not me. I rarely sock, and when I do, I always leave my website URL in my dog so that it's obvious that it's me if you mouse over it.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 11, 2012 11:53 AM (zacpj)

546 If this place were a restaurant, the health department would cite it for leaving the breakfast buffet warming in the steam table for 6+ hours.

New post, please!

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 11, 2012 11:53 AM (4q5tP)

547
Huh? This is a THC thread? Who's bogarting the joint, then?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 11, 2012 11:48 AM (X3lox)


Since the Overnight Thread was nicknamed the ONT I decided to nickname the Top Headline Comments thread the THC. It hasn't caught on, for some strange reason. Sorta like my renaming of Megyn Kelly to Megyn Milf.

I guess my genius is lost on the common moron.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 11, 2012 11:55 AM (7+pP9)

548 This thread has all of the ire of a Malor post but none of the ire directed at Malor of a Malor post.

Do over.

Posted by: runninrebel at April 11, 2012 11:56 AM (N/1Dm)

549 @522 - Dang: No. Blissfully, no. I only have one or two friends that would be Obama supporters anyway, and one is "unsubscribed" and the other seems to have noticed the de-lamination over the last couple years.

I mean, he'll still vote for Barry, but he won't burst at the seams with pride in himself like last time.
Actually, now that I think about it, if there's going to be an R he'd vote for, it'd be Romney. Nah. That's crazy-talk. He'll still Barack the Vote.

Posted by: reason at April 11, 2012 11:57 AM (sPO/s)

550 New Post. Now with 3000% less content.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 11, 2012 11:58 AM (8y9MW)

551 Sorta like my renaming of Megyn Kelly to Megyn Milf.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at April 11, 2012 11:55 AM (7+pP9)


I think your prowess in nameology is quite impressive.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 11, 2012 11:58 AM (X3lox)

552
btw, as most of you are aware there is a big push lately by the Left to "do something" about bullying.

Who are the biggest and meanest bullies around, though? The Left.

So if George Zimmerman does do violence to himself, it will be because the Left bullied him into it; they of course will say that his guilty conscience led him to it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 11, 2012 11:58 AM (jUytm)

553 I just read that PJM mea culpa piece. I didn't realize that Zimmerman passed a voice stress test the night of the shooting.

My guess is the prosecutor puts him on trial for manslaughter, he goes into solitary for a few months for his protection, then either the judge tosses the case for something like a 5th amendment violation (no, I'm not going to defend that one, we already had that discussion) or it goes to trial and he is acquitted.

After that, he starts suing everyone in sight for making him end up in jail awaiting trial, including Sharpton, NBP, and NBC.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 11, 2012 11:59 AM (9t6jP)

554 Captain Hate, I told you I would come back with a link for my statement on Michael Steele.

http://tinyurl.com/d2urlsy

Above is a column discussing his statement (and his subsequent backtracking after GOP people went ballistic). The original statement was made in an interview to Mother Jones magazine, but the quote is included in this article along with his backtracking.

Hope that helps! I am sorry it took me so long to get back with this. I have had a busy morning.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 11, 2012 12:01 PM (GoIUi)

555 EOJ -- this place is an Irish Bar, and you never eat at the Irish Bar

Posted by: Jean at April 11, 2012 12:01 PM (WkuV6)

556 Lots of racism here again wingnuts.

Posted by: Sockwave's Inner Voice at April 11, 2012 12:02 PM (kaOJx)

557 I hope GZ is safely in hiding. I could put him up here. He'd have to grow a beard and let his hair grow out.


Posted by: Jimbo at April 11, 2012 12:02 PM (O3R/2)

558 Joe. He whipped up a bunch of BS numbers, and then then Palin blamed Wall Street. That's the first time I realized the GOP had truly shit the bed.
Posted by: Daniel Jeyn at April 11, 2012 10:21 AM (jBA6+)

Fraudulent MBS. Rating known shit MBS as AAA. Selling CDS on said fradulent MBS. Leveraging at around 30:1.

Naw, Wall St. had nothing to do with that. At least it was the Dems who gave us CRA, and it was Clinton who signed off on the death of Glass-Steagall.

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 11, 2012 12:03 PM (NVu2l)

559 I also fear that will be the outcome. I can't imagine what it must feel
like to be so publicly hated, vilified, threatened and hunted. The fear
and desperation are probably overwhelming.


Having lived his life as a Dem and a hopeful activist, I agree. The feeling of betrayal must be overwhelming.

Some of us would just say "f*ck off, Moonbats", and deal with it like we do when crap hits our lives. I don't thing GZ can up his game that fast...he seems to be a kid who desired approval from the wrong demographic.

Posted by: minutemen for Mitt (formerly trainer) until the JEF is gone at April 11, 2012 12:04 PM (Rojyk)

560 I guess my genius is lost on the common moron. Posted by: Ed Anger

When's this genius supposed to start?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 11, 2012 12:06 PM (qfooS)

561
Posted by: Brother Cavil, in Cylon hell at April 11, 2012 11:46 AM (GBXon)



I thought that the original argument between EoJ and kdny was pretty stupid on both sides. However, when you jumped in with your marvelous imitation of a barking jackal, I felt obligated to point out that 1) kdny is not a troll, (s/he has been around longer than you have, I think)2) she was actually arguing a bit better (in my opinion) than EoJ, who was being loud and crude instead of his usual witty and crude. I really detestthose who jump into an argument to mock one side and stir things up without actually contributing anything or having understood what the argument is about. It is mobbing, and little less ugly for being virtual instead of physical. So, yeah, I am quite happy to fight you.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 11, 2012 12:10 PM (zj1Yv)

562 Are a lot of people here on their 5th day of no carbs?

The kerosine bath took care of them, thanks for asking.

Oh, you said carbs. My mistake.

Posted by: Mister Mxyzptlk at April 11, 2012 12:16 PM (GTbGH)

563 I am dipping my balls in the cognitive dissonance.

Errrr, if by dipping your balls, you mean pissing yourself...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at April 11, 2012 12:21 PM (PMGbu)

564 I don't think Santorum 2016/2020 will attract more or different voters than Santorum 2012. His inability to appeal to conservatives beyond his core constituency will always be a problem for him. The contraception contretemps hurt him somewhat, just when it seemed like he was breaking out. If he is going to run again, he'll need to do what Romney did: spend the next four years in campaign mode fundraising, assembling a team, and building an organization.

Posted by: Jordan at April 11, 2012 12:33 PM (RSG1I)

565 Posted by: Jordan

Get back to Stormfront, you racist cocksucker.

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He's the minority leader, for now.

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