NBC Calls Its Deliberate, Frame-Up Editing of George Zimmerman an "Error;" Washington Post Then Calls It A "Screw-Up"

Let's compare this to the O'Keefe Acorn tapes.

It has been routinely stated by the media, as if a fact, that the Acorn tapes were "deceptively edited." This is despite the fact that there was no deception, and no intent to deceive. (They are referring to the opening credits and interstitial shots of a ludicrously pimp-garbed O'Keefe, walking with a pimp-cane and stuff -- this is plainly comedy shot afterwards like a skit, not the Acorn tapes revelations.)

Now we have the media deliberately editing George Zimmerman to fit their "racist" narrative.

When NBC’s “Today” show aired George Zimmerman’s 911 call to police, here is what the audience heard:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.

Wow. “Looks up to no good” followed by “He looks black” sounds like Zimmerman made a conclusion of “no good” based upon an observation of being “black.” That would lend credence to the racism angle.

The problem is the conversation was edited by NBC to look that way. Here is the unedited version:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

So the assertion “He looks black” was in direct response to a question about what color Treyvon appears to be. Zimmerman was right – he looks black. Zimmerman was not making any connection between skin color and being good or bad.

NBC's accounting of the facts, in its correction, is itself false. It was not an "error" to do this. It was done deliberately. NBC's "error" claim conjures images of a sound editor accidentally brushing a dial with his wrist as he reached for his coffee.

No, this was deliberately cooked, as so much of this story is.

The Washington Post, however, wisely refrains from following NBC in its "error" dishonesty.

They go so far as to brand it a "screw-up."

Oh: And NBC won't name the "error" prone editor, nor will it say if any punishment has attached to this error. And they do not apologize to George Zimmerman for defaming him.

Posted by: Ace at 12:49 PM



Comments

1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 04, 2012 12:52 PM (DGIjM)

2 Was this covered yesterday?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 04, 2012 12:52 PM (j9St3)

3 This is normal shit for network news. Hell, at least they didn't trade answers between questions like ABC did.


The fact is that you simply can not believe anything they say period.

Posted by: Vic at April 04, 2012 12:52 PM (YdQQY)

4 They're probably just so color-blind over there at the NBC, they didn't realize how it sounded. Liberals are color-blind aren't they?

Posted by: huerfano at April 04, 2012 12:54 PM (bAGA/)

5 Shocking, I know.

Posted by: the scorpion at April 04, 2012 12:54 PM (GTbGH)

6 There's truth and then there's greater truth. Deal with it.

Posted by: Outside the mainstream media at April 04, 2012 12:54 PM (Hx5uv)

7 So it wasn't an error-error.

Posted by: Penfold at April 04, 2012 12:55 PM (1PeEC)

8 the president is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure/tyrant

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 04, 2012 12:55 PM (h8UT+)

9 Mistakes were made.

Posted by: MFM at April 04, 2012 12:55 PM (GdalM)

10 I heard this edit 3 weeks ago from another source. Maybe a local Florida station. So this isn't even an original deception by NBC. They stole it from an affiliate.

Posted by: Killjoy at April 04, 2012 12:55 PM (U/ftZ)

11 Was this covered yesterday?
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 04, 2012 12:52 PM (j9St3)
.
Some of us in Texas had an excused absence yesterday.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 04, 2012 12:55 PM (3zV6k)

12 When the SHTF if or when Zimmerman is exonerated, people are going to get hurt. Will the media give a shit? Doubtful.

Posted by: dan in michigan at April 04, 2012 12:55 PM (ygfeX)

13 Fake but accurate.

Posted by: M. Mapes at April 04, 2012 12:55 PM (GdalM)

14 The WSJ QA forum on the case is also full of shit.

You have people misrepresenting the facts that we do know for certain because they are lazy and/or want to get paid for writing some stupid pundit piece.

Posted by: mike at April 04, 2012 12:56 PM (fsTVa)

15 We've moved on.

Posted by: Soledad O'Brian at April 04, 2012 12:56 PM (GTbGH)

16 Now what about the NYT, which repeated the same fraudulent transcript of the 9-1-1 call? Will they come out and admit their error?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 04, 2012 12:56 PM (4df7R)

17 Liars lie; traitors treason, or something; fools try to fool, etc


Posted by: SantaRosaStan, always marvelous at April 04, 2012 12:56 PM (Dll6b)

18 Note: This is the same mainstream media that employs Al Sharpton despite the fact that he is responsible for the deaths of at least seven innocent people and has been found libel for defamation.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 04, 2012 12:56 PM (Hx5uv)

19 >>>And NBC won't name the "error" prone editor, nor will it say if any
punishment has attached to this error. And they do not apologize to
George Zimmerman for defaming him.

Gotta protect The Narrative at all costs.

Posted by: Dave C at April 04, 2012 12:57 PM (mzmIE)

20 This guy's up to no good. He looks mahvelous.

Posted by: NBC's Latest at April 04, 2012 12:57 PM (l/xhO)

21 How marvelous of them to admit it was an error...

Posted by: the hobbit fomerly known as Donna at April 04, 2012 12:58 PM (ZHge+)

22 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 04, 2012 12:58 PM (8y9MW)

23
Fake but accurate.


Posted by: M. Mapes at April 04, 2012 12:55 PM


Word.

By the way, Mary, do you know any women of any race, creed or religion who don't use birth control?

Posted by: Dan Rather in a trenchcoat at April 04, 2012 12:58 PM (bAGA/)

24 Last night, John Dipstick Stewart spent most of the first part of the show going after.................wait for it.........................Sarah Palin



Posted by: SantaRosaStan, always marvelous at April 04, 2012 12:58 PM (Dll6b)

25 listen up clowns maybe you will learn some facts

you cant go around and shooting people just

because they are black children that like candy

that is bullshit

get a clue idiots

#JusticeForRaymond

Posted by: Jose Canseco's Gristle Encased Head at April 04, 2012 12:58 PM (+lsX1)

26 It's a "screw-up" because they got caught crimson-fisted.

Fuck the propagandist lapdog media. They are not to be trusted - ever.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2012 12:58 PM (Af3Wg)

27 Making "errors" and "mistakes" is "Objective" Journalism's version of the clown nose on, clown nose off routine.


There can be no political bias in Objectivity!

Posted by: runninrebel at April 04, 2012 12:59 PM (N/1Dm)

28 Well hopefully this will erode the publics trust in the media. Not holding my breath, but it would be nice. Between this and the Al-Reuter's Ann Romeny piece any poor impression one could have of the media has been confirmed.

Posted by: Randy M at April 04, 2012 12:59 PM (vI8R6)

29
Oh: And NBC won't name the "error" prone editor...

But if the same editor published "Chink in the Armor?" then he'd named and fired forthwith.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 04, 2012 12:59 PM (jUytm)

30 Wait until you see our accidental photoshopping of Zimmerman!
We've got the Gestapo uniform about right, but showing him in the clan outfit is a bit more problematic.

Posted by: NBC Graphics Department at April 04, 2012 12:59 PM (Qxdfp)

31 They're calling it an "error" so that Zimmerman doesn't end up winning a huge case against them like Richard Jewell did after the '96 Olympic bombings.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 04, 2012 01:00 PM (e0xKF)

32 Liars lie; traitors treason, or something; fools try to fool, etc

Editors edit.

Posted by: t-bird at April 04, 2012 01:00 PM (l/xhO)

33
But if the same editor published "Chink in the Armor?" then he'd named and fired forthwith.


Posted by: Soothsayer at April 04, 2012 12:59 PM (jUytm)



Racism only goes in one direction.

Obviously.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at April 04, 2012 01:00 PM (v3pYe)

34 Weeks ago, I listen to what the City of Sanford posted and read the reports they had up there, too. I couldn't figure out why people were misrepresenting the 911 call and acting like what was in the reports as a new revelation. Then again, I would direct people to the website and tell them to listen to the original recordings. Most people would not.

I still would like to know if there is any verification that he had "skillets and IT" on him when found or if he even went to the store. I know the story about him going to buy candy for his younger brother is pure bullshit since his brother was not there that night per his father.

Posted by: mike at April 04, 2012 01:00 PM (fsTVa)

35 Has NBC "apologized" on-air or just to a column that nobody reads in the WaPo?

Posted by: Andy at April 04, 2012 01:02 PM (5Rurq)

36 Posted by: mike at April 04, 2012 01:00 PM


The original claim to the press was that Travon was shot while sitting on the porch

Posted by: Uncle Tuggs at April 04, 2012 01:02 PM (cYQg0)

37
NBC was just trying to advance the narrative. How are they going to get the riots they want if the cannot inflame the public with false information?

Remember, riots are good for the media. Riots mean people watching the news. Riots mean great media stories. People getting beaten, raped, robbed and killed? Sounds like great human interest stories. People's houses and businesses burnt out, that just means more stories.

I despise these dishonest hacks.

Posted by: rd at April 04, 2012 01:02 PM (9sUlj)

38
Anybody know if the ratings spiked when Sarah Palin was on Today?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 04, 2012 01:03 PM (jUytm)

39 I think George Z is gonna get paid; paid big time; lotto dimensions, etc


TrayVoNN's 'parents', despite all the efforts of the Usual Suspects, might not get paid


( that was the Prime Mover in this 'case'; the hunger of the MFM for 'ratings via Outrage' was the other factor ). Then the Race Vultures descended upon us

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, always marvelous at April 04, 2012 01:03 PM (Dll6b)

40 Huffpo compares Trayvon (tm) to ..... Jesus.

http://tinyurl.com/7hwpkba

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 04, 2012 01:03 PM (DGIjM)

41 Hope he sues them for slander.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 04, 2012 01:03 PM (pLTLS)

42 Am I the only one who hears "Skittles and iced tea" and wonders, "Okay, are those street names for meth?"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 04, 2012 01:03 PM (4df7R)

43
Oh: And NBC won't name the "error" prone editor, nor will it say if any punishment has attached to this error.

Don't lay this shit off on me.

Posted by: Lucy Ramirez at April 04, 2012 01:03 PM (r9/9u)

44 Also, that time I banged your sister? An error. A malfunction of my love-making faculties.

Posted by: runninrebel at April 04, 2012 01:03 PM (N/1Dm)

45 During our investigation it became evident that there was an error made
in the decision whether to bomb Pearl Harbor process that we deeply regret. We will be taking the
necessary steps to prevent this from happening in the future and apologize to all those flying in bombers over Japan.

Posted by: Tojo at April 04, 2012 01:03 PM (Hx5uv)

46 Zimmerman should sue the ever loving piss out of NBC News.

Posted by: EC at April 04, 2012 01:04 PM (GQ8sn)

47 http://twitter.com/#!/shannonevans

You didn't get mad when we let a major US city, New Orleans, drown.


You see, wingnutz, you didn't get mad then. Chill.



"Author, Editor, Educator, Boys Lacrosse Coach,..."

She knows.

Posted by: Sumbudy's Kenya Dream Connection at April 04, 2012 01:04 PM (0It32)

48 Now they have some ER doctor looking at those stupid video tapes and claiming that he had no injuries to his nose. I can't believe that the old quack would say such a stupid thing or allow him to be used in that way. He must to paid consulting on the side. Asshole.

Posted by: mike at April 04, 2012 01:04 PM (fsTVa)

49 if you wouldnt not shoot a chinese guy or a homo

for having on a hoodie or eat skittles

then its wrong to shoot a black children

wake up idiots

#JusticeForTarvel

Posted by: Jose Canseco's Gristle Encased Head at April 04, 2012 01:04 PM (+lsX1)

50 I still would like to know if there is any verification that he had
"skillets and IT" on him when found or if he even went to the store.


I don't know that we've ever seen an accounting of his personal effects at the time of his death. Even if he didn't have them on him, that doesn't mean he hadn't gotten them.

That said, it's highly unlikely- his family/supporters have already been shown to be lying in some cases, that makes me much less likely to believe them in this one.

OTOH, "Skittles" is apparently slang for some drug or other, and Arizona Iced Tea (the specific brand he is said to have had- another reason I don't believe the story), is famous- at least here in DFW- for being the beverage of choice to spike with various illicit substances. To the point that Dallas (in typical liberal, ham-handed fashion) considered banning the drink from convenience stores (luckily they dropped that).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 04, 2012 01:06 PM (8y9MW)

51
btw, have you noticed all the lefty celebs lining up and offering to help out the Martin family with funeral costs?

Yeah, me neither.

The Martins are the new Cindy Sheehans.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 04, 2012 01:06 PM (jUytm)

52 Word to the wise for the MSM: don't photoshop Zimmerman into a Nazi uniform. He'll just end up looking like the President of Paraguay and you'll piss off the Latinos even worse.

Go with the Klan thing, you can cover his face that way.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 04, 2012 01:06 PM (QTHTd)

53 Brilliant!

Posted by: Josef Goebbels at April 04, 2012 01:06 PM (iAUf+)

54 Olbermann wants to shoot chatty taxi drivers.

Posted by: Beto at April 04, 2012 01:06 PM (cYQg0)

55 Illiterate millionaire and NBA baller Chris Singleton blows $10,000 on the MegaMillions lottery tickets. Says it's either Lotto tickets or hookers, blow, and Grey Goose in the club.

Posted by: NBA Economy: Trickle Down Until Belly Up at April 04, 2012 01:07 PM (U/ftZ)

56 Hope he sues them for slander.

Me, too.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 04, 2012 01:07 PM (8y9MW)

57 As a friend of mine said to her then three year old son: "Don't say 'Oops!' when you're doing it on purpose!"

Posted by: logprof at April 04, 2012 01:07 PM (ykSKg)

58 Ace and all other lawyers out there on this blog:
Would Zimmerman and family have a case to sue NBC for millions now?

Posted by: john b at April 04, 2012 01:08 PM (2RhVD)

59 They lie, they are a fucking propaganda organ of our government. Fuck them.

Posted by: Mr Pink at April 04, 2012 01:08 PM (Kwk/z)

60 "Don't say 'Oops!' when you're doing it on purpose!"

I've said that a time or two.

Also, "That wasn't an 'uh-oh' that was an 'on-purpose-oh.'"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 04, 2012 01:08 PM (8y9MW)

61 34Weeks ago, I listen to what the City of Sanford posted and read the reports they had up there, too. I couldn't figure out why people were misrepresenting the 911 call and acting like what was in the reports as a new revelation. Then again, I would direct people to the website and tell them to listen to the original recordings. Most people would not.

I still would like to know if there is any verification that he had "skillets and IT" on him when found or if he even went to the store. I know the story about him going to buy candy for his younger brother is pure bullshit since his brother was not there that night per his father.
Posted by: mike at April 04, 2012 01:00 PM (fsTVa) Word. Every liberal I have ever argued with has always refused to even look at evidence that refutes their view. Every single issue. Every single time.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 04, 2012 01:08 PM (YbQJm)

62 Am I the only one who hears "Skittles and iced tea" and wonders, "Okay, are those street names for meth?"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 04, 2012 01:03 PM (4df7R)

-----And am I the only one wondering if the choirboy was out in the rain to make a drug deal?

Posted by: Retread at April 04, 2012 01:09 PM (joSBv)

63 Admit it, you hate NBC because it is prettier than you are.

Posted by: the hot network at April 04, 2012 01:09 PM (SO2Q8)

64 NBC, just following in CBS's steps, badly.

Posted by: Gmac at April 04, 2012 01:09 PM (g2Zn1)

65 #JusticeForTarvel

I find these cansekus marvelous.

Posted by: toby928© at April 04, 2012 01:10 PM (GTbGH)

66 How much can Zimmerman get in a Libel lawsuit over this?

I'd want at least $1 million, a public apology, a full accounting, and at least two people fired (the person who did the edit, and the top ranking person who approved it). That would be my "I won't sue if ..." position.

Lawsuit? Well, full discovery on what happened, publicly released, and $10 million (since I don't think you can get someone fired as part of a lawsuit).

But that's just me. What can he legitimately go for?

Posted by: Greg Q at April 04, 2012 01:10 PM (/0a60)

67 42 Am I the only one who hears "Skittles and iced tea" and wonders, "Okay, are those street names for meth?"

Actually, you're close. Skittles is a street name for Coricidin. Also for some of the other over the counter cold meds.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=coricidin

Posted by: NBC Graphics Department at April 04, 2012 01:10 PM (Qxdfp)

68 AGH! friggin socks.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 04, 2012 01:10 PM (Qxdfp)

69 45During our investigation it became evident that there was an error made
in the decision whether to bomb Pearl Harbor process that we deeply regret. We will be taking the
necessary steps to prevent this from happening in the future and apologize to all those flying in bombers over Japan.Posted by: Tojo at April 04, 2012 01:03 PM (Hx5uv) I thought the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!

Posted by: model_1066 at April 04, 2012 01:11 PM (YbQJm)

70 If we mouth-breathing, flat-earthers are the ones catching these "errors" and "screw ups", what does that say about the average NBC news viewer?

Posted by: d_fitz at April 04, 2012 01:11 PM (+O9FO)

71 Remember when NBC was BLOWING UP CARS and saying it was a faulty gas tank?

Just an ERROR.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 04, 2012 01:11 PM (JIDLg)

72 And still nobody is questioning why nobody was looking for Trayvon while he was lying in the morgue?

I guess he'd normally disappear for days at a time after a skittles bender.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 04, 2012 01:12 PM (Qxdfp)

73 If I owned the world the editor would be in stocks, and he would have to walk thru the town square loudly proclaiming "I voted for Obama, hear ye hear ye I voted for the cocksucker Obama".

Posted by: Mr Pink at April 04, 2012 01:13 PM (Kwk/z)

74 The MFM lie to promote it's a agenda? Never!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 04, 2012 01:13 PM (1Jaio)

75 Hope he sues them for slander. >>>>That's dumb, he should sue them for money!

Posted by: MegHam McCain at April 04, 2012 01:14 PM (HethX)

76 it's too bad trayvon is dead.....if he were still alive, he'd be facing charges for beating the crap out of zimmerman.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 04, 2012 01:14 PM (h8UT+)

77 Ace,If youcheckyour moron-blogger syle guide you will see thatwhen everone mentions James O'keefe in a post an accompanying picture of Hannah Giles is required.
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Given the seriousness of this subject matter we'll chalk this up to a mere oversight. However in the future please be sure to include fappable pics in all posts and essays involvingGingers, Crazy hot high school tachers,Fox News Anchors, comelyRussian spies, Thai tranny hookers and of course the aformentioned Hannah G.
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Thank you.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 04, 2012 01:15 PM (8ieXv)

78 "Don't say 'Oops!' when you're doing it on purpose!"

That's what she said.

Posted by: Michael Scott. at April 04, 2012 01:15 PM (7vSU0)

79 38 Anybody know if the ratings spiked when Sarah Palin was on Today? ---
Correction, Sarah Palin was on Yesterday

"Who was on Today?"
"No, Who's on First"
"I don't know"
"Third Base"

Posted by: the hot network at April 04, 2012 01:15 PM (SO2Q8)

80 And still nobody is questioning why nobody was looking for Trayvon while he was lying in the morgue?

Actually, I think that's an urban legend. Not sure of the specifics, but I'm pretty sure I saw some documentation that refuted that one.

Which I say since our only stake in this should be accuracy.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 04, 2012 01:15 PM (8y9MW)

81 Come on, Ace....No "that stuff in your mouth....an error" or similar?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 04, 2012 01:16 PM (JIDLg)

82 This is why I've rarely if ever paid attention to the national news. I check the Weather Channel and the local stations for temperatures and rainfall, maybe street closures, and that's pretty much it. If a newslady is particularly hot, though, I'll leave it on in the morning for background noise and eye candy.

Miss Linda asked me, "So you pick your TV news based on how good-looking the on-air staff is?" I said, "Why wouldn't I? They all lie to protect the Lightworker. So they're all the same as regards what they call 'news.' Why not watch the one with the hottest women?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 04, 2012 01:16 PM (exvgC)

83 Hoodie delivers prayers at the White House:
http://www.whitehousedossier.com/ 2012/04/04/hoodie-appears-white-house/

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at April 04, 2012 01:16 PM (QTHTd)

84 291 Days Until We Evict the SCOAMF

Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 04, 2012 01:16 PM (SnU3b)

85 OT... (possibly humorous)

Barry Soetero, world Famous White-African, entrepreneurial energy investor, husband of Nickelodeon fashion setter and fried food lover Michelle Obama, whom named his dog after his own initials, and temporary US President.

Has yet to condemn his vice presidents often reported support for human cannibalism and child prostitution merged with role playing as a troll or as this odd craving is rumored to be discussed internally the "VuJarreT'ing."

This is the same Vice president Joey "wetpants" Biden412@aol.com (he wouldnt let us run this story without adding his screename) who suffers from a confessed severe allergy to "RealJobitis" (a condition spreading through Americas public schools) Who recently tried to frighten firemen and police officers (men noted for running toward gun fire and into buildings on fire) with 4'th grade level political hackish-fearmongering.

I should save this stuff for ONT.. but sometimes the shit just wants out like last nights Mexican food.

Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 04, 2012 01:16 PM (RfvTE)

86 @Mega thank you

Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 04, 2012 01:17 PM (RfvTE)

87
Would our unbiasedmedia ever lie and try to frame the news?
Remember the Spanish American War?
SupposedlyHearst's illustrator Frederic Remington in Cuba saidthat conditions in Cuba were not bad enough to warrant hostilities. Hearst responded: "You furnish the pictures and I'll furnish the war." He used inflammatory language and slanted stories to lay the groundwork. After the Maine blew up from a coal dust explosion, we had a war.

Posted by: rd at April 04, 2012 01:18 PM (9sUlj)

88 Washington Post Then Calls It A "Screw-Up"

The writer must be another Ivy Leaguer. English is considered a second language in the Ivies, these days. Just ask the empathetic Latina who didn't think that Spanish had adjectives ... after she was already in Princeton!!

What a bad joke this world has become.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 04, 2012 01:18 PM (X3lox)

89 50 I still would like to know if there is any verification that he had "skillets and IT" on him when found or if he even went to the store.---
Come on dude, Zimmerman wasted him for the Skittles. an those things are AWESOME.

Posted by: the hot network at April 04, 2012 01:18 PM (SO2Q8)

90 >>>72
And still nobody is questioning why nobody was looking for Trayvon while he was lying in the morgue?

Actually, I believe the father was informed the following day. The confusion comes from the goofy mother who said that he was a John Doe in the morgue for three days and why didn't anyone ask the neighbors if they knew him, etc.

I suspect he was admitted to the morgue as a John Doe and his body was released to the family after the autopsy, three days later. Again, she mischaracterized what had happened.

Posted by: mike at April 04, 2012 01:18 PM (fsTVa)

91 My sig links to Examiner story about Trayvon being in the morgue for three (3) days.

Posted by: Mister Christopher at April 04, 2012 01:18 PM (DQhAB)

92 It'll never happen again

Pinky Promise

Posted by: the hot network at April 04, 2012 01:19 PM (SO2Q8)

93 "The original claim to the press was that Travon was shot while sitting on the porch"
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Now Thats some staight-up racism right there!!11!!

Posted by: narsty tattood bitch at April 04, 2012 01:19 PM (8ieXv)

94 This all helps Zimmerman's lawyers when they sue the bejesus out of NBC for defamation.

Posted by: SamInVA at April 04, 2012 01:20 PM (rFiOs)

95 Come on dude, Zimmerman wasted him for the Skittles. an those things are AWESOME.


and murder is thirsty work.

Posted by: toby928© takes his optimism where he can find it at April 04, 2012 01:20 PM (GTbGH)

96 Not a lawyer but for slander/libel you have to prove actual malice. NBC will claim good faith in that the lone editor working on that particular story believed it to be an accurate copy of the tape. The affiliate that edited the tape will claim it was only meant for voice analysis or some other bs.

Unless you can find an email from an NBC editor that says, "Hey, punch this up a bit. We want to highlight the racial angle," you're pretty much SOL.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 04, 2012 01:20 PM (JEpGb)

97 Hoodie delivers prayers at the White House:
http://www.whitehousedossier.com/ 2012/04/04/hoodie-appears-white-house/

****

You guys complain that he is doing nothing to improve the economy but thanks to Obama firearm sales and hoodie sales are through the roof!

Posted by: Tojo at April 04, 2012 01:21 PM (Hx5uv)

98 71 Remember when NBC was BLOWING UP CARS and saying it was a faulty gas tank?Just an ERROR.---
explosives don't blow up cars, networks do, because we CARE

Posted by: the hot network at April 04, 2012 01:21 PM (SO2Q8)

99 My sig links to Examiner story about Trayvon being in the morgue for three (3) days.

I caught so many errors so quickly that I'm not finishing that. And I don't believe a word (because of said errors). Among others: Trayvon's dad didn't live in the community- his dad's fiance did. While it seems like it's a minor difference, it could be a huge reason that Trayvon wasn't recognized (he didn't live there), and their insistence on pushing that line shows they want people to be outrageously outraged that the police didn't "ask neighbors if they recognized him."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 04, 2012 01:22 PM (8y9MW)

100 on the unedited police tape you can see what appears to be Samantha Brick's axe wound on the back of Zimmerman's head. They should have tossed some panties over it. Give the man some dignity.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 04, 2012 01:22 PM (j9St3)

101 pay attention dummys and maybe you can learn something

racial against black guys is plane as day

if you shoot him

think about it butholes

#JusticeForMicron

Posted by: Jose Canseco's Gristle Encased Head at April 04, 2012 01:22 PM (+lsX1)

102 "Zimmerman guarded the gated community where Trayvon’s father lives. Trayvon was on his way to his father’s home the night he was shot, returning from a convenience store where he had bought a can of Arizona iced tea and Skittles. "...Well, the article is pretty specific (name brand of the tea) but that doesn't mean squat considering how many people have exaggerated, extrapolated and just plain lied about what littlehard info. we have.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 04, 2012 01:23 PM (HethX)

103 I still think that NBC has managed to leap over the tremendously high NYT v. Sullivan hurdle (yes, vic, I know you disagree). I'm going to keep hammering away at this point because if this does not rise to the level of actual malice, let alone reckless disregard for the truth or falsity of the statement, then I cannot see any statement that would. I would far rather than the court admit that there is an absolute bar to slander/libel suits against the MFM then the current state.

Which, again, is not to state that Zimmerman would win but this should be enough to get past the judgment on the pleadings and probably summary judgment.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 04, 2012 01:24 PM (VtjlW)

104 that doesn't mean squat considering

See my post, above. Disputationally, the entire article should be ignored.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 04, 2012 01:24 PM (8y9MW)

105 I'm so confused. I thought that it was the father's gf's house, and that that wasn't even in the community but rather, in the neighborhood next door to Z's.

Posted by: toby928© at April 04, 2012 01:25 PM (GTbGH)

106 Not a lawyer but for slander/libel you have to prove actual malice. NBC
will claim good faith in that the lone editor working on that particular
story believed it to be an accurate copy of the tape. The affiliate
that edited the tape will claim it was only meant for voice analysis or
some other bs.

Unless you can find an email from an NBC editor
that says, "Hey, punch this up a bit. We want to highlight the racial
angle," you're pretty much SOL.

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I don't think that is necessarily true. Given the need for a finding of actual malice, that means that they either knew it was untrue at the time they broadcast it or that they acted with reckless disregard as to whether it was true when they broadcast it. Given the obvious bias of NBC combined with the obvious inflammatory nature of the material they should have made some effort to verify its authenticity prior to broadcast. Apparently they made absolutely no such effort. Sounds like reckless disregard to me.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 04, 2012 01:25 PM (Hx5uv)

107 returning from a convenience store where he had bought a can of Arizona iced tea

Posted by: the hot network at April 04, 2012 01:26 PM (SO2Q8)

108 >>>99
My sig links to Examiner story about Trayvon being in the morgue for three (3) days.

Yep, that pretty much spells it out. When I initially read the mother's statement I was shocked that the parents didn't make an effort to find him. But, is all BS. His body was held in the morgue until they performed the autopsy and it was released in 3 days.

Posted by: mike at April 04, 2012 01:26 PM (fsTVa)

109 And they do not apologize to George Zimmerman for defaming him.

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That is the sickening part--they loftily apologize to their audience as *if* they have higher standards and "accidentally" did not provide the whole truth.

Zimmerman--who they have conducted a non-sopt trial against in the Court of Public Opinion--they cannot be bothered to toss him an apology.

And let's be clear here-

the only reason NBC is apologizing to their audience for their lack of standards--dare we mention ethics is because-

NBC got caught at it.

How many times--as NBC gotten away with things like this-or worse?

Posted by: tasker at April 04, 2012 01:27 PM (r2PLg)

110 A timely reminder of the erudite Tom Friedman's wise advice on why you dumbshit proles should trust the seasoned pros of the mainstrean media to pre-digest your news for you:

The Internet is an open sewer of untreated, unfiltered information,
left, right, center, up, down, and requires that kind of filtering by
anyone. And I always felt, you know, when modems first came out, when
that was how we got connected to the Internet, that every modem sold in
America should actually come with a warning from the surgeon general
that would have said, “judgment not included,” OK?

http://tinyurl.com/p27bgq

Posted by: Cicero at April 04, 2012 01:27 PM (QKKT0)

111 returning from a convenience store where he had bought a can of Arizona iced tea
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Trayvon bought a Racist iced tea? Racist against Hispanics? In violation of the boycotts? Justifable homicide right there.

Posted by: La raza at April 04, 2012 01:27 PM (SO2Q8)

112 Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 04, 2012 01:17 PM (RfvTE)

I wonder if he can hear the footsteps.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 04, 2012 01:27 PM (SnU3b)

113 AriZona Beverages USA (often labeled AriZona) is a producer of various flavors of iced tea, juice cocktails and energy drinks from the United States, based in Woodbury, New York. You may now continue.

Posted by: @SOEarpiece at April 04, 2012 01:27 PM (GTbGH)

114 >>>102
"Zimmerman guarded the gated community where Trayvon’s father lives.
Trayvon was on his way to his father’s home the night he was shot,
returning from a convenience store where he had bought a can of Arizona
iced tea and Skittles. "...Well, the article is pretty specific (name
brand of the tea) but that doesn't mean squat considering how many
people have exaggerated, extrapolated and just plain lied about what
littlehard info. we have.

Father didn't live there - his gf did. Then again, maybe he just wasn't on the lease. I thought he was visiting. Maybe, they are shacked up. Again, the reporting of this case sucks big time.

Posted by: mike at April 04, 2012 01:28 PM (fsTVa)

115 damn italics

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 04, 2012 01:29 PM (w/anX)

116
This is why we can't have nice (or even mediocre) things.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at April 04, 2012 01:29 PM (8y9MW)

117
damn italics

****

Let's stop with the hate. Some of my best friends or Italics and they are known for the quality of their operas and food.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 04, 2012 01:30 PM (Hx5uv)

118 Some conservatives have been full of shit regarding this case, too. Taranto and WSJ to name just two.

Posted by: mike at April 04, 2012 01:30 PM (fsTVa)

119 fixed?

Posted by: GMan at April 04, 2012 01:31 PM (sxq57)

120 Hey, I made a comment that you didn't like and you fucked fired me.

Greeks get no respect.

Posted by: Zombie Jimmy the Greek at April 04, 2012 01:31 PM (hXJOG)

121 #117 lol

Posted by: GMan at April 04, 2012 01:31 PM (sxq57)

122 I get the feeling that the WH and MSM are over teh Trayvon thingy. I think they think it ain't working. On to the next outrage from teh WH. Sooner are later something has to stick. MARVELOUS (I spelled it right this time).

Posted by: Sub-Tard at April 04, 2012 01:31 PM (ursbV)

123 Am I the only one who hears "Skittles and iced tea" and wonders, "Okay, are those street names for meth?" Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at April 04, 2012 01:03 PM (4df7R)

"Tea and Skittles?" by The Last Refuge:

http://is.gd/6mnGJG

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at April 04, 2012 01:32 PM (0xqzf)

124 Ace correctly predicted this would be their response.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 04, 2012 01:32 PM (9eDbm)

125 To those complaining about the presence of italics on this blog, I will only say that they are doing the jobs Americans won't do.

Posted by: Cicero at April 04, 2012 01:33 PM (QKKT0)

126 It was an error that we got caught.

Posted by: NBC at April 04, 2012 01:33 PM (l/xhO)

127 Isn't the only reason they report a screw up is to minimize the litigation amount? See, we are honorable people serving the truth here.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at April 04, 2012 01:35 PM (ursbV)

128 http://tinyurl.com/88dsfxz

Simple mistake. Move along now.

Posted by: Sumbudy's Kenya Dream Connection at April 04, 2012 01:35 PM (0It32)

129 I still think that NBC has managed to leap over the tremendously high NYT v. Sullivan hurdle (yes, vic, I know you disagree).
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Yes, it is now virtually impossible to sue a newspaper or TV news show. Ask zombie General Westmoreland.


Bad cases make bad law. What we need is a ruling that the more conservative court comes up with to back track on Sullivan. However, people like Zimmerman just do not have the resources to drag one of these cases all the way up to SCOTUS.

Posted by: Vic at April 04, 2012 01:36 PM (YdQQY)

130 Let's stop with the hate. Some of my best friends or Italics and they are known for the quality of their operas and food.
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 04, 2012 01:30 PM (Hx5uv)
*
I was always partial to their shoes.

Posted by: Imelda Marcas at April 04, 2012 01:37 PM (8ieXv)

131 America should actually come with a warning from the surgeon general
that would have said, “judgment not included,” OK?


The damn "OK?" here is damn annoying-gawd can we please ship Friedman to China?

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It was an error that we got caught.
Posted by: NBC at April 04, 2012 01:33 PM (l/xhO)

Crap -that's it-exactly.

Posted by: tasker at April 04, 2012 01:37 PM (r2PLg)

132 I caught so many errors so quickly that I'm not finishing that. And I don't believe a word (because of said errors). Among others: Trayvon's dad didn't live in the community- his dad's fiance did.

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The better question might be-what has the media reported correctly?

Posted by: tasker at April 04, 2012 01:43 PM (r2PLg)

133 I'm with WalrusRex. NBC is going to have to work really hard to prove they didn't act with "reckless disregard" for the truth. Which means Zimmerman can get discovery to try to prove the "reckless disregard". Which means that, at a minimum, he can force a real investigation, not a whitewash.

What would NBC pay to avoid that real investigation?

Posted by: Greg Q at April 04, 2012 01:45 PM (/0a60)

134
With the press all over this, how come we can't even get official information? I know the DA is sitting on it, but still. Can't anyone verify if he went to the fucking store or not? Why the fuck is the fourth estate given all sorts of bennies when they can't even report even basic news?

Posted by: mike at April 04, 2012 01:45 PM (fsTVa)

135 @87 - SupposedlyHearst's illustrator Frederic Remington in Cuba saidthat conditions in Cuba were not bad enough to warrant hostilities.

Wasn't there some supposed "kerfuffle" early in Barky's term in some country South of the Border that the Dems wanted to throw money at, but when "real" people went down there to see what was going on, it was a great big nothingburger?

And the Dems wouldn't give "permission" for some of the Republican Congresscritters to go down there and check it out for themselves?

And then it got dropped like a hot potato?

Same thing with the "Oil Spill" crisis - they wouldn't let ANYONE fly over the site, because if they did, they'd realize that there wasn't anything there?

Democrats love to create crises that they can then come along and "fix"......

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at April 04, 2012 01:45 PM (0xqzf)

136 I hope Zimmerman sues their pants off!

Put those assholes under oath and ask away.

Posted by: PJ at April 04, 2012 01:47 PM (DQHjw)

137 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at April 04, 2012 01:49 PM (7W3wI)

138 The reason Zimmerman shot that kid is because he couldn't stand having a Black man in the White House.
Straight up.

Posted by: Janeane Giraffiblow at April 04, 2012 01:50 PM (WCuHB)

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Regarding
the Skittles and ice tea details, the original source of that bit of
information appears to have come from the Martin family’s attorney, Ben Crump. I
did come across a Seattle Times article, “At heart of Trayvon Martin death, a
one-minute mystery,” which closes with some statements from Sanford Police
Chief Lee:

In an interview two weeks after the incident,
Chief Lee said witness statements and physical evidence backed up Zimmerman's
version of events. He suggested that based on the timing of the call, he
believed that Trayvon went out of his way to approach the person tailing him
and mouth off……

"We
can't discount (Zimmerman's) story, based on — not evidence we put anywhere,
not testimony we put in anybody's mouth — but testimony of witnesses who were
there, that called, and the physical evidence that's there. You can't refute
it," Lee said in the early interview. "The conclusions that are drawn
from the basic information is that George Zimmerman shoots a 17-year-old kid
with a bag of Skittles and an Arizona iced tea can. And you know, those are
facts: George Zimmerman did shoot Trayvon Martin, and Trayvon Martin did have a
bag of Skittles and an Arizona iced tea.

"The
fact that he had a bag of Skittles and an Arizona iced tea does not have
anything to do with the facts of why George Zimmerman thought he needed to use
deadly force."

Posted by: SvenLee at April 04, 2012 01:51 PM (Ir3h4)

140 Holy crap, that didnt post well. Sorry about that.

Posted by: SvenLee at April 04, 2012 01:51 PM (Ir3h4)

141 140
Holy crap, that didnt post well. Sorry about that.

Neverthelesss, thanks. It answers my question.

Posted by: mike at April 04, 2012 01:55 PM (fsTVa)

142 Are you guys sure that the Sullivan malice standard applies to all defamation cases? I thought that you had to prove malice only if you were a public official or a public figure. I don't think GZ fits the definition of a public official or public figure.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at April 04, 2012 01:59 PM (qwK3S)

143 Remember during the Atlanta Olymp ic games, there was an explosion (which Eric Rudolf eventually pled guilty to doing) which killed a woman.

NBC and the Atlanta Journal Constitution and other media outletsinitially reported that a security guard named Richard Jewell had saved lives by discovering the bomb. Three days later those same outlets reversed themselves and claimed Jewell was considered a suspect. They ruined his life. He eventually prevailed, and settled with the media outlets that smeared him.

It took a toll on him, he died a couple of years ago of natural causes at the age of 44. Google or wikipedia his name, it's a sad sad story.

Posted by: Boots at April 04, 2012 02:03 PM (neKzn)

144 Not a lawyer but for slander/libel you have to prove actual malice. NBC will claim good faith in that the lone editor working on that particular story believed it to be an accurate copy of the tape. The affiliate that edited the tape will claim it was only meant for voice analysis or some other bs.
How about the fact that MSNBC employee, Al Sharpton, is going around spreading lies about what happened? Wouldn't that help Zimmerman's case?

Posted by: i'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at April 04, 2012 02:32 PM (nyxv/)

145
The editor that allowed this MUST be fired and banned from working in
the media ever again. To make an "example" of him/her....as the liberals
never ceased to spout in the 60's and 70's

Posted by: Your Wise Uncle Rick at April 04, 2012 02:44 PM (78zVP)

146 NBC was just being sloppy.

Posted by: Sandy Burgler at April 04, 2012 03:00 PM (Gx3Fe)

147 The editor that allowed this MUST be fired and banned from working in the media ever again. To make an "example" of him/her....as the liberals never ceased to spout in the 60's and 70's
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Read the post that just went up. Not only will he not be fired but he will be rewarded.

Posted by: Vic at April 04, 2012 03:14 PM (YdQQY)

148 It was bureaucratic snafu

Posted by: Hillary at April 04, 2012 03:21 PM (Gx3Fe)

149 I lied to my notebook

Posted by: James rubin at April 04, 2012 03:22 PM (Gx3Fe)

150 Pressure needs to be put on NBC to fire Brian Williams. He's last in line of the "inordinate number of editors. Every word I write, before it goes on air, goes through all kinds of
traps and filters, and it’s read by all kind of different people who
point out bias." The quoted words belong to Brian Williams. This stunt was an egregious lapse in judgement, calculated to smear a private citizen. Williams needs to go.

Posted by: holygoat at April 04, 2012 03:29 PM (XnwWl)

151 Did we ever find out who edited the black face off the 'scary gun guy at an Arizona tea-party?'

I wonder if its the same guy?

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at April 04, 2012 03:40 PM (UU0OF)

152
ABC News hid Zimmerman's injuries!


Two days ago, ABC News aired a segment (http://tinyurl.com/dy27ydl) in which they claimed the
original footage of the police surveillance video (tinyurl.com/cvbff42) was enhanced,
revealing "possible injuries" to the back of George Zimmerman's head.
However, ABC News was not truthful in reporting that the first video
footage was the original. In fact, the first footage that ABC News aired
was a murky copy made by recording the video as it played on a
screen/monitor. The camera used was human-held as is evident by the
tell-tale wobbling picture. Furthermore, several seconds into the first
footage aired by ABC News, the camera operator actually pans the camera
to center the picture because the edge of the screen/monitor is visible
in the shot.

However, this so-called "enhanced" video shows footage that is
perfectly steady and has a visible date/time stamp – which is consistent
with a permanently mounted security camera. This "enhanced" version
appears to be the original footage, or a slightly tweaked version of the
original to cover ABC News' lies. They reported the screen recorded copy was used to produce the "enhanced" copy, which is not only false, but impossible. They entire tale was made up whole cloth.


THIS is why the quality of the first video they released was so bad –
it was intentionally bad. Why didn't ABC News air the original video
footage from the start; or report that the footage initially aired was
actually recorded from a screen/monitor and therefore, the quality was
significantly compromised? Whoever operated the camera to record the
first version released, had to have seen a much clearer picture than the
public was shown.

ABC News withheld the original footage and played what looks to be a
sick joke, instead. They aired a poor quality screen-recorded copy
captured by someone physically holding a camera, presented it as the
original footage, and then reported that the security video did not show
any injuries – which contradicted George Zimmerman's claims. ABC News
intentionally obfuscated Zimmerman's wounds and then acted like they
broke some scoop after they realized the genuine footage would
eventually come out should Zimmerman be charged with a crime. Then they
had the wherewithal to pretend like they did some honest reporting and
went out of their way to have the video enhanced to find the truth.

This is unacceptable.

Posted by: Billy Bob Bacon at April 04, 2012 05:54 PM (TySpk)

153 I blame it on a Republican: Rosemary Woods.

Posted by: Born Free at April 04, 2012 07:08 PM (cnH1l)

154 Related:

http://bit.ly/HX5wuP

Posted by: Harvey at April 05, 2012 12:03 AM (Ha/T5)






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