Top Headline Comments 3-15-12

Happy Thursday.

Santorum went to San Juan, Puerto Rico yesterday, where he told a newspaper, El Vocero, that Puerto Rico should only gain statehood if the territory makes English its main language.

"As in any other state, you have to comply with this and any federal law. And that is that English has to be the main language," Santorum told the paper. "There are other states with more than one language as is the case in Hawaii, but to be a state in the United States, English has to be the main language."

Santorum is apparently unaware that English is compulsory in Puerto Rican schools from first through twelfth grade. He's also apparently unaware that there is no federal law that says that "English has to be the main language." The immediate response of the newspaper staff should have been: "Just what language do you think you're speaking with us right now, idiota?"

Santorum then went to a town hall where he charmingly referred to himself as "Senator Puertorriqueño." Next it was off to an evangelical church on the 85% Catholic island where he campaigned on social issues again. But please, he's really tired of the media always bringing up social issues.

There are 20 Puerto Rican delegates at stake in Sunday's primary. If a candidate wins a majority, he takes all 20 delegates. If no candidate wins a majority, delegates will be awarded proportionally to each candidate who gets more than 15% of the vote.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 07:00 AM



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1 Good Morning Morons. Today is Thursday, March 15, 2012. "Beware the Ides of March". A famous line from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar. But the warning itself is said to come from a seer and Plutarch references it. So on this day in 44 B.C. Caeser was stabbed 23 times on he way to the Senate. Note that there were "Ides" for every month, but March is the only one remembered due to the play. As for the "Ides" today it is supposed to hit 82° and be partly cloudy. But no porch time for me, tied to 'The Pump" today. This shit sure sucks in the middle of my favorite time of the year.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:00 AM (YdQQY)

2 You expect to find a lot of shit in L.A. and sometimes even intruders. But a 500 pound bear raiding your refrigerator? But I especially liked this part:

Quote:

Ball called police, who arrived with shotguns, but the bear had already made its escape into the surrounding hills.

Unquote

Shotguns on a 500 pound bear?

http://is.gd/MiKvJT

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:01 AM (YdQQY)

3 San Diego gears up for a fight with labor unions over lavish retirement benefits. I say ban the damn public employee unions altogether.

http://is.gd/MV05GX

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:01 AM (YdQQY)

4 The Senate passes latest highway spending extravaganza. It sapends on nearly everything except highways. And I like this little tidbit:

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One thing the bill doesn't do is resolve how to keep the federal Highway Trust Fund solvent beyond next year. The largest source of money for the fund, which pays for highway and transit programs, is federal fuel taxes: 18.4 cents a gallon for gasoline and 24.4 cents a gallon for diesel. Revenue from those taxes has declined since the economic downturn in 2008 and because the fuel efficiency of cars and trucks is increasing.

End quote

The first thing they could do is totally eliminate the bullshit raiding of the fund to put 20% in urban mass transit. Then they can pass a law that says fund will only be used for highway and bridge construction and maintenance. But that will never happen. The other thing they can do is get rid of café standards.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:01 AM (YdQQY)

5 These cats refuse to call for Holder resignation.

http://is.gd/OvXlrz

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:02 AM (YdQQY)

6 What would a brokered convention look like?

http://is.gd/JmlLoS

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:02 AM (YdQQY)

7 UN issue report praising Gadaffi's human right record. These are the people who will evaluate our voting requirements for the NAACP. I say send the NAACP to one of the third world shit holes that make up this council and see how much they get to vote.

http://is.gd/BO2BqT

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:02 AM (YdQQY)

8 AFL-CIO to go door-to-door for Obama. They love to reference a court case that says they can do this. What they don't talk about is how the damn unions can do this and remain a tax exempt 502(3)(c ) organization.

http://is.gd/2V4Igp

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:02 AM (YdQQY)

9 More race-mongering idiots high in the Obama regime. Another what if. "What if a Republican President packed his cabinet and advisers with members of stormfront and the KKK"? Because this is exactly what this is.

http://is.gd/6rcRFS

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:03 AM (YdQQY)

10 The wonders of human rights under Sharia code. 16 year old girl kills herself rather than marry her rapist as directed by judge. These people are savages with no hint of civilization and should either be civilized or exterminated like the cockroaches that they are.

http://is.gd/LE9MU1

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:03 AM (YdQQY)

11 Bloggo goes to jail today.

http://is.gd/VdHOSB

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:03 AM (YdQQY)

12 Well, that's it for news this morning.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:04 AM (YdQQY)

13 Santorum is confusing naturalization requirements with Statehood. The laws are different.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:05 AM (YdQQY)

14 Chaleco de suéter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buenos días, Vic. Que pasa con tigo?

Posted by: MJ at March 15, 2012 07:05 AM (/x4oj)

15 Santorum is apparently unaware that English is compulsory in Puerto Rican schools from first through twelfth grade. He's also apparently unaware that there is no federal law that says that "English has to be the main language." The immediate response of the newspaper staff should have been: "Just what language do you think you're speaking with us right now, idiota?"


Spanglish? Hey I saw the movie

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 07:07 AM (i6RpT)

16 Santorum is confusing naturalization requirements with Statehood. The laws are different.

That's what I was afraid of.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2012 07:07 AM (+zL0z)

17 Oh no link to save eyes, but the big news today is all the MFM gushing about how good the first ladies of the UK and the US look all decked out for a formal State dinner.

If this was the Bushes they would be griping about spending a shit pot of money during a depression.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:07 AM (YdQQY)

18 Buenos días, Vic. Que pasa con tigo?
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Buenos dias. Se muy bein. y usted?

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:09 AM (YdQQY)

19 Blago off to jail.

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 07:12 AM (i6RpT)

20 Blago off to jail.

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 07:12 AM (i6RpT)
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I was hoping he would get nervous as the day approached and he would cut a deal to rat out Obama. But knowing the DOJ, he is probably cutting a deal now to not rat him out.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:13 AM (YdQQY)

21 Buenos dias. Se muy bein. y usted?
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Y yo también.

Posted by: Senor MJ (Remembering 7th grade Spanish) at March 15, 2012 07:16 AM (/x4oj)

22 Vic, Hope your treatment yesterday was tolerable.

Posted by: USA at March 15, 2012 07:16 AM (6Cjut)

23 Yeah, been a long time for me too.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:16 AM (YdQQY)

24 Meow.

Posted by: nickless at March 15, 2012 07:19 AM (MMC8r)

25 How'd Mr. Inevitable do on Tuesday, again Gabe?

Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 07:19 AM (vrYVY)

26 Vic, Hope your treatment yesterday was tolerable.

Posted by: USA at March 15, 2012 07:16 AM (6Cjut)
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I talked the doctor into stopping the IV drugs which were causing the neuropathy. I am now getting only the "pump". The worst thing about yesterday was waiting three hours for the results of the blood test and getting the pump from the pharmacy.
During that time I had to listen to this black lady spouting crap right out of Derrick Bell movies.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:19 AM (YdQQY)

27 By your rationale Al Gore should be president.

Posted by: MJ at March 15, 2012 07:20 AM (/x4oj)

28 Hey Gabriel, despite what you've read, I can assure you a huge number of Puerto Rican's do not speak English very well. It's a serious issue.

The official business is conducted in Spanish. I have real estate there, and they won't even respond to letters in English.

You're a little overeager to smear Santorum because of your single issue voter mentality. The same thing that makes you a little overeager for Romney.

Posted by: Village Idiot at March 15, 2012 07:20 AM (utXSy)

29 Good Morning-o El-vic-o, good-o comment-os This morning-o.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at March 15, 2012 07:22 AM (ZDUD4)

30 Gabe, Rick Santorum knows more about Puerto Rico than you ever will. Your hate makes you ignorant.

Again.... or is that still?

Posted by: BurtTC at March 15, 2012 07:22 AM (Gc/Qi)

31 Anyone hear Springsteen's latest album? He's actually writing lyrics calling for violence and death to "Wall Street fat cats" and "bankers."

It's the Jersey version of the Horst Wessel Song.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 15, 2012 07:23 AM (Af3Wg)

32 "Santorum is apparently unaware that English is compulsory in Puerto Rican schools from first through twelfth grade."

I saw no indication Santorum didn't know that.

Why demagogue? Santorum is right. Hell, I bet Romney, who has been posing as an extremist on immigration for a couple of months, would agree.

On many of these issues, Santorum is attacked for things that Romney is not materially different on. Reminds me of gay rights guys bashing Hillary for Obama's benefit. I guess it's because they thought Obama was lying?

Anyway, of course Puerto Rico and the rest of this country should have a common language. And of course our schools promote English already. No need to be obnoxious.

Posted by: Dustin at March 15, 2012 07:24 AM (wcT+8)

33 Hey-o, Santorum-o did screw this up-o and I hate Mutt-o.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:24 AM (YdQQY)

34
Ah, can't wait for the primaries to be over. Please, God, make it stop.
ABO.

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 07:24 AM (0401c)

35 And of course our schools promote English already.
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Not in Southern CA.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:25 AM (YdQQY)

36 Next it was off to an evangelical church on the 85% Catholic island where he campaigned on social issues again.


But that's not what the Politico article (the Reuters article said nothing at all about the visit) said:


"Speaking Wednesday evening at an evangelical church here, Santorum had
the opportunity to put his faith – which he is vocal about – on display
before several hundred parishioners."


There's a difference from displaying your faith and ringing the social issue bell. I doubt very, very much that Politico--POLITICO--would omit a mention of Santorum "campaigning on social issues." Libs can't help it. Fact is, Santorum's been a lot more disciplined about that of late. Probably too late, but still.

Posted by: Steve the Pirate at March 15, 2012 07:30 AM (B0893)

37 I'm from Puerto Rico, all my family still lives there. Good luck getting an island of moochers off the "Estado Libre Asociado" (Commonwealth) status. All the federal bennies without the federal income tax? Sure, pull the other one now.

When more than half of the people are on some sort of welfare, subsidized rent etc. Plus, you know where the zipcode with the most people, percentage-wise, on SSI is right?

It really chaps my hide the entitlement mentality of the whole place, like Chicago with subtitles...

Posted by: Witin at March 15, 2012 07:30 AM (Wy05x)

38 Santorum is apparently unaware

The perfect campaign slogan for Sweater Boy!

As soon as he received the coveted Michelle Malkin and "Poppin' Fresh" seals of approval, I knew I couldn't support the guy. Yes, I'll vote for him if the Repubs are dumb enough to nominate him, but in many respects that won't be all that much of an improvement over the stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable traitor.

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 15, 2012 07:31 AM (SLZUA)

39 Say no evil of a fellow Republican

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 07:35 AM (i6RpT)

40 Oh, and so you're in favor of the admission of an officially bilingual state, now, Gabe?


Yeah, so he tripped up on the "official" status of English in the Commonwealth, but making English the "primary" language as a condition of Statehood should be lauded. Especially when he's willing to go to PR and say it directly.


But, yeah, I'm sure whatever Romney advocates for the moment is better.

Posted by: Steve the Pirate at March 15, 2012 07:35 AM (B0893)

41 All should keep this in mind. The Democraps are dying for PR to become a State, just like Washington DC. They would get two new Democrat Senators in perpetuity.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:35 AM (YdQQY)

42 Take off your shoes and belts. Naw bend over ah need ta check ya asshoe.

South park was great last night.

Posted by: Toilet safety administration at March 15, 2012 07:36 AM (T6sxD)

43
Posted by: MrScribbler at March 15, 2012 07:31 AM (SLZUA)

I agree with the first part, but disagree about the second. It is almost impossible for ANYONE to be almost as bad as SCOAMF.

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 07:36 AM (0401c)

44 How about Puerto Rican independence? I'm all in favor of that.

Then again, we'll be doling out foreign aid out the wazoo.

But statehood, no. That's all we need; two more guaranteed Dem senators and several congress-critters.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 15, 2012 07:36 AM (Af3Wg)

45 "Poppin' Fresh"


That still kills me.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 07:37 AM (GZitp)

46 I would be in favor of granting them independence if it was true independence. Give a short grace period for those current citizens wanring to remain citizens and move to the US mainland. The remove citizenship for all the rest and pull all money going there - ALL.

Make them a true independent nation.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:38 AM (YdQQY)

47 Wow! Gave rips Santorum. Please get off the single issue. This is really tiring.

Posted by: Hedgehog at March 15, 2012 07:39 AM (uHYpt)

48
FOX and Friends has some Jersey Shore person reading the weather and she only seems to notice the weather for herself in NY.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 15, 2012 07:40 AM (amaZR)

49 FOX and Friends has some Jersey Shore person reading the weather and she only seems to notice the weather for herself in NY.
Posted by: Jimmah at March 15, 2012 07:40 AM (amaZR)

Yeah and?

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 07:41 AM (i6RpT)

50 Gabriel, are you really so obsessed with gay issues that you have to outright lie about Santorum to feed your hate?

You said that Santorum campaigned on social issues again.

But the article you cited didn't say that at all.

Maybe the voices in your head told you it was so?

We get that you're a single issue voter Gabriel, but how about keeping your posts a little more grounded in reality OK?

Posted by: Village Idiot at March 15, 2012 07:43 AM (utXSy)

51
I'll repost this for the benefit of the Morning Moron Shift. Everybody last night was too excited about the live movie blog.

I contacted the FL State Attorney General's office yesterday to file a formal complaint against the scrunt over in Lake County who flew the defaced American flag. I asked if that was a violation of Florida Statute (which it is, I looked it up) and asked if her office would prosecute or if someone else had to file charges.

I'll see what's in my inbox when I get home from work today.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 15, 2012 07:43 AM (d0Tfm)

52 I do have to retract a statement I made yesterday. PR and other territories do not have the vote for congressional representatives and president, so it is unknown why the get a vote in the primaries.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:43 AM (YdQQY)

53
Shotguns on a 500 pound bear?

I sure wish I had my 870 loaded with slugs the time I was porch reading and looked up to find a 500 lb. bear about five feet away.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 15, 2012 07:44 AM (7+pP9)

54 7 You can always tell when a leader who gets overthrown how their record on human rights were. When your citizenry captures you, shoves a knife up your ass, shoots you a few times,and then drags your carcass to a grocery store for all to see. You sure are awesome UN.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at March 15, 2012 07:46 AM (BvdQo)

55
Yeah and?Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 07:41 AM (i6RpT) -----And nothing, Seems to me if you're doing a national weather report you would read the weather for the entire country and not just where YOU are.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 15, 2012 07:46 AM (amaZR)

56
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:43 AM (YdQQY)

Trial balloon for expanding the vote worldwide?
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Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 07:47 AM (0401c)

57 C'mon, can we lay off the "single issue voter" shit for Gabe?

Again, not a well-reasoned lunge against Santy (most Romney camp apologetics share the same flaw), but it should be pretty clear by this point that Gabe isn't a single issue shill.

Posted by: Steve the Pirate at March 15, 2012 07:47 AM (B0893)

58 Vic, about the worst thing you could accurately say about Santorum's stance on Puerto Rico is that he sounds like a politician when he talks about this stuff.

He knows English isn't the official language, I believe, anywhere in the U.S. He was making a larger point, which is that Puerto Ricans want it both ways. They like being dependent on the federal government for all the gravy it gets, and they like keeping their Hispanic heritage front and center, but they also seem to want to be treated as equals with the other 57 states.

I should say, that's of course, an oversimplification. Whenever the issue of statehood comes up there, it is an extraordinarily divisive issue, and so far has never mustered 50% in referendums, and probably won't as long as the people fear there will be requirements of them, beyond just holding their hands out.

In other words, probably somewhere northwards of 40% of the people are good, decent, very American people, but it's not enough.

Santorum knows that, but he'd like to get more than 40% of any voting bloc, so he parses words. Again, like a politician.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 15, 2012 07:48 AM (Gc/Qi)

59 I always have the same two questions for Santorum supporters:

1. Can you really envision Santourm as President?

2. Do you think the average voter can envision Santorum as President?

The answer to question one is generally 'yes, or possibly', but the answer to question two, when answered honestly, is usually no.

Posted by: MJ at March 15, 2012 07:48 AM (/x4oj)

60
While you're here, Vic -- you seemed to reply with an air of disbelief about the PA distillery article I posted on Monday. You were correct about the western farmers turning their corn into liquor to make it easier to get to market. The farmers were in western PA, so the article was accurate.

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 15, 2012 07:48 AM (7+pP9)

61 How do you say "Satan likes when you use contraception" in Puerto Rican?

Posted by: Senador Puertorriqueno at March 15, 2012 07:48 AM (kbuN7)

62 I didn't think Puerto Rico was particularly interested in statehood.

Posted by: creeper at March 15, 2012 07:48 AM (gre5a)

63 The US should just unilaterally pull out of PR. If they don't want the military bases or to share the responsibilities of a territory, then why keep the spigot going in that drug trafficking shithole? I love my family and the place is beautiful but something needs to change drastically.

They could be swimming in ethanol money from sugar cane, but now the only people willing to manual work there are the Dominican illegals. All the sugar cane fields and processing plants closed years ago.

I fled with my wife and kids right out of college and busted my ass to get them a good life, if others can't be bothered to improve their lot, f-em. The place has been hemorraging the brain-trust for a long time, there are not that many STEM positions available and the few remaining are not secure.

Posted by: Witin at March 15, 2012 07:49 AM (Wy05x)

64 Trial balloon for expanding the vote worldwide?
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My first thought would be that since these territories are bluer than blue that its almost guaranteed to go for the most liberal candidate. This makes the Rockefeller wing happy and they are the ones running the Party.


I don't know why Santorum is even wasting money campaigning there.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:49 AM (YdQQY)

65 Shotguns on a 500 pound bear?

Oh, absolutely. A 12 gauge (which is the standard cop issue) would do the trick quite nicely, especially loaded with slugs.

I wouldn't go any smaller than a 16 gauge, though.

Posted by: Steve the Pirate at March 15, 2012 07:51 AM (B0893)

66 Maybe a western moron could enlighten me.
Apparently hunters, fishermen and outdoors folks should support Obama because of private land v public land access issues? Evil Romney went hunting with some guy named Paey (sp?). And something about a moose and elk. Oh and roads are bad.

This controversy was all new to me and was surprised by pro-Obama western hunter supporters.

Is this fringe group? Do these folks have legitimate concern over hunting access by Mitt's position on land use?

Posted by: Long Island at March 15, 2012 07:52 AM (kzp9t)

67 But Perry said "heartless".

Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 15, 2012 07:52 AM (Wfpy7)

68 And nothing, Seems to me if you're doing a national weather report you would read the weather for the entire country and not just where YOU are.
Posted by: Jimmah at March 15, 2012 07:46 AM (amaZR)


I live in NJ, so I'z dont get ya point?

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 07:53 AM (i6RpT)

69 While you're here, Vic -- you seemed to reply with an air of disbelief about the PA distillery article I posted on Monday.
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You must have missed by answer to your posts yesterday. I wasn't disagreeing with you in the original post. I was expanding to write-up based on research I did last year about a lot of different "insurrections" in early US history.

My overall point is that like most of these insurrections, it was based on unfair and unequal taxation. The corrupt American System has never had a fair taxation system and it has got a lot worse.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:54 AM (YdQQY)

70 I couldn't envision Obama as President, yet here we are.

Posted by: Case at March 15, 2012 07:55 AM (QwurB)

71 Did anybody get the number of tha truck?

Aaaarrrrrggghhhhh...

Posted by: Julius Caesar at March 15, 2012 07:55 AM (niZvt)

72
Vic,
He sees that Romney keeps picking up delegates by winning the easy to get territories. It is cheap for Santorum to show up, and he might pick up a few additional delegates (who knows).
I used to be on the Credentials Committee for the College Republicans, and you would be amazed how important that portion of the ground game is (and how ugly it is, to be honest). Who getsdelegates/authority and why is an ugly, unseemly process, and there are a bunch of egos involved. The smaller the stakes, the bigger the egos.
I don't know that saying 'insiders are for Romney' is the proper way to look at how he keeps gaining by losing, but rather Romney has done all of his research and is playing to clench this primary process--not playing to win over the hearts and minds of primary voters. It is certainly a high-risk proposition.

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 07:56 AM (0401c)

73 I'm going to quibble with "English being Compulsory" down in Puerto Rico. I lived there for three years. Maybe a quarter of the population actually speaks English. The rest speak a bastardized form of Spanish that even other Spanish speaking countries find hard to understand. If you want to communicate with people in Puerto Rico, you'd better speak Spanish, and if you want people to actually listen to you, you'd better speak it without an American accent.

As for statehood? No. Not just no but hell no. The entire island is systematically dysfunctional from top to bottom, and there's no way in hell I want that mess any further involved in the USA.

As a side note - if you want to experience the joys of socialized medicine, go to Puerto Rico and give it a whirl. If you manage to come back alive, you'll understand why I fight against socialized medicine tooth and nail.

Posted by: Ragin' Dave at March 15, 2012 07:56 AM (q9ZdZ)

74 C'mon, can we lay off the "single issue voter" shit for Gabe?

Hear, hear. I don't know Gabe, and only know anything about his personal preferences from what little I read here. But I've never gotten the impression that Santorum's intolerance toward homosexuality or Romney's tolerance of the same (if that's even true; I can't think of a single thing he's ever said on the subject) is the sole reason (or even a major reason) Gabe supports Mitt over Rick.

I'm not gay and I guess I'm a social moderate because I couldn't care less about other people's sexual preferences, but I'm supporting Romney because I think he has the best chance of defeating Obama. Period. Oh, that and I think Santorum is a judgmental prick with a freaky wife and I wouldn't want the two of them in my home much less the White House.

Anyway, the gay baiting around here should stop. It's wrong generally, and it's certainly unfair to Gabe in particular.

Posted by: Senador Puertorriqueno at March 15, 2012 07:57 AM (kbuN7)

75 I didn't think Puerto Rico was particularly interested in statehood.


Posted by: creeper at March 15, 2012 07:48 AM (gre5a)
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And yet the Democraps push for a vote almost every year. I think on the last one while the Republicans were in charge they agreed to allow yet another vote if no more would be held for at least 5 years.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:57 AM (YdQQY)

76 So English is actually compulsory in the PR school system?

WOW. So PR islanders are more English fluent than the denizens of L.A. Barrios...

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 07:59 AM (niZvt)

77
Regarding Statehood:

Just like Ireland joining the EU: the elections will be held until the desired result is achieved. Libs are relentless like that.

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 07:59 AM (0401c)

78 He sees that Romney keeps picking up delegates by winning the easy to get territories
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Mutt keeps picking up delegates whether he wins or not because the local Party establishment wants him to pick up delegates.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:59 AM (YdQQY)

79 I couldn't envision Obama as President, yet here we are.
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But do you think the average voter could? That's the important question.

Posted by: MJ at March 15, 2012 08:01 AM (/x4oj)

80 Hey Gabe - Speaking of stuff people say on campaigns ...

What? No post on the statement by Matt Romney, son of Mitt, where he proclaimed to one and all on the campaign trail "Hey, I think Obama is great!"


I'm shocked, shocked, to find a double standard here.

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 08:02 AM (P6QsQ)

81 I still can't envision Obama as president, because he is a total dick.

I can, however, envision him as an ex-president. Doing speeches on economic inequality, how the poor are being slaughtered in the streets of America by Republicans. How the only bright 4 years in American history "was when I was president." How he had to disarm the military during speeches to show how they're just average guys like your military.

Oh, and he'll be cashing big checks for these speeches.

Look up the word "class" and you'll see a picture of George W. Bush. Also under antonyms: see Barack H. Obama.

Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 08:03 AM (X7Mcs)

82 70 I couldn't envision Obama as President, yet here we are.
Posted by: Case at March 15, 2012 07:55 AM (QwurB)


Actually, I could.

Way back in 1992 I was sure Clinton's draft dodging was the end of him. Then I was amazed how the public and MSM didn't care.

Nothing surprises me anymore.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 08:03 AM (niZvt)

83 Vic, you obviously dislike "Mutt," so let's use you as a test case for a moment: assume he wins the nomination - are you enough of an ABO guy that you'd still go vote straight R (or at least vote for Romney over Obama), or has he turned you off so much you'd literally sit this one out?

I'm asking because guys like you (displeased with your options but smart enough to see the big picture) are going to be important to our chances this fall.

I get that Romney is a bland, uninspiring flip-flopper, but hell, welcome to politics. What is it about Romney that makes you dislike him so much?

Posted by: Senador Puertorriqueno at March 15, 2012 08:06 AM (kbuN7)

84 Unless this is being completely manufactured by the MSM, Santorum seems to have a knack for raising irrelevant issues that give ammunition to the Democrats.

Posted by: real joe at March 15, 2012 08:06 AM (w7Lv+)

85 Vic @78 "Mutt keeps picking up delegates whether he wins or not because the local Party establishment wants him to pick up delegates."

You said it.

From Iowa.

Posted by: creeper at March 15, 2012 08:06 AM (gre5a)

86 Oh, and by the way, accusing someone of being a one issue blogger reeks of one dimensional thinking.

But I'm sure you accept the logic that if you're white you don't support Obama, if you're Catholic you support Santorum, if you have a giant head you support Newt, etc, etc, etc.

It would be intellectually dishonest to accept Gabe as one dimensional without accepting the others, which of course, is absurd.

Posted by: MJ at March 15, 2012 08:07 AM (/x4oj)

87 @83: During a FNC Mitt as much as said that "very conservative" Republicans will have no choice but to vote for him if they don't want America to become Obamaland.

I concur.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 08:08 AM (niZvt)

88 During a FNC Mitt as much as said that "very conservative" Republicans will have no choice but to vote for him




It's sweet talk like that which makes him all the more endearing.
/

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 08:09 AM (P6QsQ)

89 When more than half of the people are on some sort of welfare, subsidized rent etc. Plus, you know where the zipcode with the most people, percentage-wise, on SSI is right?
Posted by: Witin at March 15, 2012 07:30 AM (Wy05x) Well said. Personally, I will never support statehood for PR. However, I'm happy to grant them independence if they would like that.

Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 08:09 AM (xUM1Q)

90 What Lars said and to add insult to injury, the prick is young. There will be years and years of his speechifying. Obama will be haunting us for many more decades.

SMOD/2012

Posted by: Long Island at March 15, 2012 08:10 AM (kzp9t)

91 Posted by: Jimmah at March 15, 2012 07:46 AM (amaZR)


What's your fuckin' point?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 08:11 AM (nEUpB)

92 If Mitt's own son seems perfectly happy with Obama, why is the guy even running?

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 08:12 AM (P6QsQ)

93 @79 At the time I could not envision Obama as President. Can I envision Santorum asPresident? Sure. If Obama could get elected why not Santorum?But don't get me wrong, I'm not a Santorum supporter. I would however vote for him over Obumble.

Posted by: Case at March 15, 2012 08:13 AM (QwurB)

94 Posted by: real joe at March 15, 2012 08:06 AM (w7Lv+)

Oh no...most of America is tremendously concerned with the terrible abuse of contraception within the bounds of marriage.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 08:13 AM (nEUpB)

95 Yes I will likely vote for Mutt despite him being a gun grabber and having vowed after voting for McShitty that I would never do it again.

But being from SC it doesn't really matter. The ones that matter are in States like OH, NC and VA. If even a small percentage stay at home OVomit gets 4 more years. And that is exactly what I think will happen.


I also think that 2008 twice in a row will permanently destroy the Republican Party.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 08:14 AM (YdQQY)

96 If Mitt's own son seems perfectly happy with Obama, why is the guy even running?
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 08:12 AM (P6QsQ)


Were are you getting that from?

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 08:14 AM (i6RpT)

97 It's sweet talk like that which makes him all the more endearing.
Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 08:09 AM (P6QsQ) Yep - and sadlyhe's 100% right. The Republican party has known that since GHWB. You put some moderate squish on top, a token con as VP, and that's how it's done. The conservative in America has no recourse without choosing self destruction. No sense blaming Mitt for telling the simple, ugly truth. Personally, I don't care for sugar coatings.But we'd do the same to the moderates if we had any sense. Force them to pick between a right winger, or a commie. Happily we usually win in that one. But, of course, that means you have to fight and get mean during campaign season, which our side hates to do. The American Right is, to a largedegree,a collection ofspineless nicey-nice types. It's sickening.

Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 08:14 AM (xUM1Q)

98
>>>I'm happy to grant them independence if they would like that.<<<

Yeah! We're talking about California, right?

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:14 AM (0401c)

99 Were are you getting that from?

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 08:14 AM


I posted the link yesterday. It was on a campaign stop where Matt Romney spoke. Let me see if I can find the link again. I don't think I bookmarked it, so it might take a minute .....

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 08:16 AM (P6QsQ)

100
Jon Stewart plays clips of Fox News commentators talking about hiding behind his clown nose.
He's unaware that when one of the Cool People get called out on their tricks by one of the Uncool People, the game is over.

Posted by: Cincinnatus at March 15, 2012 08:16 AM (0rY8f)

101 Yeah! We're talking about California, right?Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:14 AM (0401c) Yeah - them too. Unless San Diego chose to stay in the union. Then we should demand that city and a land corridor to it, rather like having our own East Prussia.

Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 08:16 AM (xUM1Q)

102
nevergiveup:

No way that Romney's kids are worse than Reagan's were.

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:17 AM (0401c)

103 Lars is right about O racking up big bucks as the socialist circle's speaker of choice. But his star (and his message) will definitely fade if he loses his re-election bid. One-termers are losers, and the world moves on pretty quickly. I personally will enjoy laughing at him to his former supporters - after all, even the much dread Chimpya won two terms, right?

My bigger fear: a future Dem prez gets the bright idea of putting him on the Supreme Ct and the Republicans being too racially cowed to say no. Obama is the ultimate affirmative action candidate, and there's really no limit to the obeisance his fanbois will show him.

On the other hand, being a judge requires work, and that's really not consistent with the affirmative action lifestyle.

Posted by: Senador Puertorriqueno at March 15, 2012 08:17 AM (kbuN7)

104
<b>being a judge requires work</b>

Have you seen our AA SCOTUS members? Being a judge with a lifetime appointment requires only a pulse. Some work hard. Some do jack shit.

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:19 AM (0401c)

105 Here's the link at JammieWearingFool. I think it was also on Weasel Zippers. Matt Romney - I think Obama's great ...

http://bit.ly/ynx3Tq

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 08:19 AM (P6QsQ)

106 Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 08:09 AM (P6QsQ)

Is he wrong?

He's not my choice, but Romney has the inside track for the nomination, and seems to have a reasonable chance to bounce the cocksucking piece-of-shit in the White House.

Would any rational conservative vote against Romney, or even worse, not vote?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 08:20 AM (nEUpB)

107
drat

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:20 AM (0401c)

108 I get that Romney is a bland, uninspiring flip-flopper, but hell,
welcome to politics. What is it about Romney that makes you dislike him
so much?


Romneycare. Gun grabbing, bad choices for judges in MA.

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 08:21 AM (sxq57)

109 Romney has done all of his research and is playing to clench this
primary process--not playing to win over the hearts and minds of primary
voters. It is certainly a high-risk proposition.


It's almost as if he made a fortune by being smart, scoping out the lay of the land, and playing the game better than everyone else. Better than oh, Rick or Newt, who knew the rules, (or maybe didn't). Let's see, what other kind of positions could use someone with that skill set? Hmmmmmm.

But, but, but......ESTABLISHMENT! That's always the easy answer, isn't it.

Posted by: pep at March 15, 2012 08:22 AM (YXmuI)

110 Sitting here checking my facebook feed, I have this gay friend who is responsible for me seeing his posts to a group which calls themselves the "Liberal Left". So I had a couple of additions for their front page:


And lo I say unto you, go forth and multiply, then murder the baby. - Leftist Jesus


And lo I say unto you, ROB your neighbor at gunpoint to feed the poor! - Leftist Jesus.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 15, 2012 08:22 AM (amaZR)

111 Here's the link at JammieWearingFool. I think it was also on Weasel Zippers. Matt Romney - I think Obama's great ...

http://bit.ly/ynx3Tq

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 08:19 AM (P6QsQ)


Ah just looked like a throw away line to change the conversation. Granted a real stupid thing to say, but not that big a deal.

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 08:22 AM (i6RpT)

112 "I don't know that saying 'insiders are for Romney' is the proper way to
look at how he keeps gaining by losing, but rather Romney has done all
of his research and is playing to clench this primary process--not
playing to win over the hearts and minds of primary voters. It is
certainly a high-risk proposition."


It may be high risk but it worked. Maybe Santorum should have taken a cue. I can already hear the complaining about the amount of delegates Romney will take in Illinois but the fact is Santorum botched that also, just like Ohio and WV.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 08:22 AM (GZitp)

113 Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:20 AM (0401c)

Welcome to the internet, circa 1994.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 08:22 AM (nEUpB)

114
The excerpt hits on Obama not releasing his birth certificate, talks about Americans all striving to be in the 1%, and at the end only includes a throway line 'I think he's great' when trying to change the subject. Obviously a shitty choice of words, but not exactly an endorsement (given everything else he said).

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:24 AM (0401c)

115 Is he wrong?


Technically? Probably not. But if you are trying to convince a reluctant base to vote for you in the primary, the words " you have no choice" makes your proposal sound less like wooing and more like rape.

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 08:25 AM (P6QsQ)

116 No Santorum didn't botch anything in those States. They write rules for qualifying in hundreds of local districts that favor long term establishment candidates with lots of money.

The fact is that Santorum did not have the money to field all the signature gatherers for all those districts t that point in the primary.

The Republican Party want you to "believe" you have some control in the primary process. In most States and the order of primaries you have NOTHING.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 08:26 AM (YdQQY)

117 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 08:27 AM (8y9MW)

118 I like to be in America!

O.K. by me in America!

Ev'rything free in America

For a small fee in America!


Immigrant goes to America,

Many hellos in America;

Nobody knows in America

Puerto Rico's in America!


I like the shores of America!

Comfort is yours in America!

Knobs on the doors in America,

Wall-to-wall floors in America!


Bernstein's WSS Hemiola
http://tinyurl.com/nqvk

Posted by: maverick muse at March 15, 2012 08:27 AM (lpWVn)

119 While English may be compulsory in school, the actual quality of English spoken and understood varies widely. I've worked with Puerto Rican national guard units during mobilization and deployment, and you cannot assume that you can use English with every Soldier. Also, when communicating internally, the PR Guardsmen definitely default to Spanish.
Claiming that it's in the school curriculum is not the same as saying that the Commonwealth is bi-lingual.

Posted by: bustermcd at March 15, 2012 08:27 AM (0AX8H)

120 Would any rational conservative vote against Romney, or even worse, not vote?


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 08:20 AM


Anyone who doesn't vote against Obama is a liberal. They may think that they are not voting for Romney but they are really voting for Obama. But....But....but....
No. If you are saying that you won't vote for anything or anyone against this marxist fuck then you are a traitor and an imbecile. Only an attention whore (libtard) would come on here and announce that he would do anything other than vote against Ofucknuggett.
And I'm starting to get seriously pissed at Mr. Calista because if he hurts Romney in the general because his fat ego wants revenge then he is a traitor too.
BTW I wanted Perry.

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 08:27 AM (u50z0)

121 And lo I say unto you, use a gun to get someone to buy your contraceptive for you! - Leftist Jesus.



http://scoamf.us/qE

The Christian Left

Posted by: Jimmah at March 15, 2012 08:28 AM (amaZR)

122
Vic,
Not having a ground game is not really a good excuse when running for POTUS. This is the big leagues, and if you can't get people excited enough to pump cold, hard cash into the coffers early on, then there is no way to get elected.
Running a good ground game is what allowed Reagan to win Massachusetts (and 49/50) when getting re-elected. Mittens might be a robot, but he has the management experience to handle all aspects of a campaign (as he should, he has been running for ever).

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:30 AM (0401c)

123 but not exactly an endorsement (given everything else he said).

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:24 AM


I never said it was an endorsement. If you read my original post regarding this issue, I referenced Gabe's focus on Santorum's clumsiness on the campaign trail, and his apparent habit of giving the Democrats ammunition against him.

I mocked Gabe for focusing on one, while being blind to the other. The Matt Romney thing is all over the lefty websites, and they are using it to their advantage.

And if this doesn't bring back fond memories of John McCain saying "You have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency", I don't know what does.


Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 08:30 AM (P6QsQ)

124 @ 82. CoolCzech. True that. Clinton enjoyed a very good economy and much was overlooked or forgiven by the general population. And of course the MFM was defending him as well. Waco itself should have brought Clinton down. When you think of how our own government killed American men, women and children........and barely a ripple.

Posted by: Case at March 15, 2012 08:30 AM (QwurB)

125 "No Santorum didn't botch anything in those States."


Spare me the it's those mean old establishment Republicans that made the process to hard for little old Rick bullshit. This is a Presidential election, if you can't raise the money or figure out the process it's nobodies fault but your own.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 08:30 AM (GZitp)

126 But, but, but......ESTABLISHMENT! That's always the easy answer, isn't it.




It's the mormonism. Don't doubt it.

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 08:30 AM (u50z0)

127 Fuck you dagny.

I'm no fucking liberal, and I won't vote for Mr. Romneycare "I want your guns" and "I'll put fucking liberals on the bench" Mitt.

Maybe if you want votes like mine (not that mine will likely matter), you shouldn't put up a fucking democrat that calls himself a republican.

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 08:30 AM (sxq57)

128 Please if Ron Paul could get on the ballot then the other tools could to.

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 08:31 AM (u50z0)

129
I just don't understand why the good Republican governors made such pathetic candidates for POTUS. Now we are down to 3, and none exactly blow anybody away.

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:32 AM (0401c)

130 Not having a ground game is not really a good excuse when running for
POTUS. This is the big leagues, and if you can't get people excited
enough to pump cold, hard cash into the coffers early on, then there is
no way to get elected.
--------------------------

For "new" non-establishment candidates one will have little money early in the process and some of the States the Party stacks the decks against them.

Why is it that every damn candidate qualified for the ballot in SC and yet they had a hard time in some of these other States? It wasn't because they didn't know the "rules".

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 08:32 AM (YdQQY)

131 Good for you, Backwards Boy; I hope you get an answer but I don't think Florida will do squat about the flag defacer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 15, 2012 08:33 AM (/bVc5)

132 >>"Santorum is apparently unaware that English is compulsory in Puerto Rican schools from first through twelfth grade."

It's compulsory in most states, and what percentage of Americans under 40 can read or write it at a higher than a third-grade level?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 08:34 AM (ZKzrr)

133 Gman, you're concerned about health care laws, gun-grabbing and appointment of liberal judges, but by sitting at home you're helping Obama advance all three. How can you not see that?

Posted by: Senador Puertorriqueno at March 15, 2012 08:34 AM (kbuN7)

134
This is gonna cause a fuss:

Pa. Lawsuit Could Make DOMA Applicable to Private Companies

A Pennsylvania lawsuit could substantially increase the reach of the Defense of Marriage Act, potentially prohibiting private companies from recognizing same-sex spouses.

The case, which went before a judge in Philadelphia on Monday, seeks to determine whether the death benefits accrued by the late Sarah Ellyn Farley should be paid to her parents or her wife from a legal Canadian same-sex marriage, Jennifer Tobits.

Farley's employer, the Cozen O'Connor law firm, was unable to determine which party had the appropriate claim to Farley's benefits, so the case was put before a judge.
...

While DOMA has not been used in the past to prevent private companies from recognizing same-sex marriages, Farley's parents claim that since the act and a similar Pennsylvania state statute both define marriage in traditional terms as between a man and a woman, Tobits' claim to the benefits is invalid.

http://tinyurl.com/6mkxt6v

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 15, 2012 08:35 AM (7+pP9)

135 120. Dagny, I am on your team. The choice is clear. Rhino vs. Evil Bastard. No contest.

Posted by: Sgt. Fury at March 15, 2012 08:35 AM (QACbj)

136 Revenue from those taxes has declined since the economic downturn in 2008 and because the fuel efficiency of cars and trucks is increasing.

Damage to the highways also decreases as lighter cars and trucks do less damage. Vehicle weight is one of the largest drivers of fuel economy. Driving less miles also decreases the wear and tear on roads.

But can the government ever spend less money or live within the revenue that a tax generates?

Posted by: Planck Constant at March 15, 2012 08:35 AM (phlKA)

137 "Why is it that every damn candidate qualified for the ballot in SC and
yet they had a hard time in some of these other States? It wasn't
because they didn't know the "rules"."


If they knew the rules and chose to forfeit the delegates that was their decision, quit complaining about it.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 08:36 AM (GZitp)

138
Vic,
We have elections every four years, and the rules are pretty well known in advance. In fact, it is now much easier for insurgent candidates to get recognition due to the superpacs. I'm sorry, but it takes next to nothing to get on the ballot in most states (seriously, $10k was too much for Santorum?), so I find it ludicrous to fault the 'establishment' in that instance. It is just shitty campaigning.

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:36 AM (0401c)

139 I see the Mutt Mushers haven't changed a bit. Attack all the other candidates relentlessly, defend Mutt even against his own words and deeds.

Personally I don't like any of these damn losers and I think none of them will win once the MFM and the Obama lying machine gets in high gear.

Yes, 50 more debates hosted by Solegad O'Brainiac.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 08:36 AM (YdQQY)

140 Headline - Taliban talks suspended.

I didn't know they were talking in the first place. I thought we were finding them and killing them. Yea, its time to pull out.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 15, 2012 08:37 AM (amaZR)

141 Taliban suspend Talks with us, refuse to open Office in Quater, and I don't give a shit. Oh but I guess we're still sending all them Taliban prisoners to Quatar?

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 08:37 AM (i6RpT)

142 I didn't know they were talking in the first place. I thought we were finding them and killing them. Yea, its time to pull out.
Posted by: Jimmah at March 15, 2012 08:37 AM (amaZR)


obama's father ( whomever that was ) should have pulled out. To late

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 08:38 AM (i6RpT)

143 Wikipedia informs me March 15 is World Day of Muslim Culture, Peace, Dialogue and Film.

I lol'd.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 08:38 AM (ZKzrr)

144
Mitt is like my 50th choice for POTUS, but he is running against
1) a blowhard less conservative than Romney who manages to spend $1.5 million in personal air travel per annum and run up huge debt at Tiffany's, all while on wife #3.
and
2) A candidate who has done NOTHING in an executive role and can't figure out how to get on ballots, despite having years to prepare. Senators make terrible presidents.

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:40 AM (0401c)

145 >>or her wife from a legal Canadian same-sex marriage,

Next stop: "benefits" awarded to the second, third, and fourth wives of immigrants from Islamic countries.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 08:40 AM (ZKzrr)

146 i don't like santorum but if he's the nominee so be it....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 08:40 AM (Ho2rs)

147 143Wikipedia informs me March 15 is World Day of Muslim Culture, Peace, Dialogue and Film.

I lol'd.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 08:38 AM (ZKzrr) Sure that isn't April 1?

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:40 AM (0401c)

148 I'm sorry, but it takes next to nothing to get on the ballot in most
states (seriously, $10k was too much for Santorum?), so I find it
ludicrous to fault the 'establishment' in that instance. It is just
shitty campaigning.
------------

That is exactly what I said, but the key here is "most" States. Some States simply paying 10K will not get you on the ballot. You have to canvass hundreds of districts getting registered voters to sign a petition to get you on the ballot. That takes a lot of money to hire those people unless you are crazy uncle and have thousands of potheads to do it for you based on decades of running a pothead ticket.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 08:41 AM (YdQQY)

149 Gman, you're concerned about health care laws, gun-grabbing and
appointment of liberal judges, but by sitting at home you're helping
Obama advance all three. How can you not see that?


I am fairly sure (my opinion) that electing romney would be no better in those regards. It's not a real choice.

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 08:41 AM (sxq57)

150 LOL. GMan you are a complete fool and a liberal. You want Obama. Just admit it. You want to see him have an unrestrained second term where he can finish the job.

Who do you think Obama is going to put on the bench? He's up two liberal lesbians, one of which was Derrick Bell's student editor. Gun grabbing? Hell Obama went to all the trouble to set up fast and furious so he could grab guns. When he has a full supreme court, the house, the senate you can bet you'll see some "gun grabbing".

Obamacare will go full speed and the death panels will go active but, no, you want Obama to have a second term. The insurance companies will go bankrupt. There will be single payer but you want to be a douchebag.


Just admit you're a lib. Go ahead. You want Obama to finish the job he started. No rational person thinks that anyone give a FUCK whether you stay home or not. No one gives a FUCK about your principles when the whole goddamn free world and the United States of America are at stake.

Just go register democrat and quit spreading your poison to people of quality and conscience. Romney is not my ideal either, but whoever the nominee is will get my full support because the alternative is ANATHEMA.

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 08:42 AM (u50z0)

151
I would vote for anybody over Obama. I would crawl over broken glass to vote for even Shrillary over Obama! Whichever candidate has the R next to his/her name will get my full support, because the stakes are too high.
Gingrich, Santorum, Romney, even Paul are 10000x better than the incumbent.

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:42 AM (0401c)

152 Sio, dagny, how hard is it to talk with Mitt's cock that far down your throat?

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 08:43 AM (sxq57)

153 Gabrielle Malor is apparently unaware that Puerto Rican schools really suck and that English is simultaneously compulsory and neglected from first through twelfth grade.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at March 15, 2012 08:44 AM (NL15p)

154 Meet Sandra Flukes uber-wealthy boyfriend

http://bit.ly/w5U7Js


In summary (with bold for emphatic inflection):Sandra Fluke is a 30 year old leftist activist, attending Georgetown University, whom the Dems tried to inject, via non-sequitur, into Issa’s hearing about Obamacare’s encroachment upon religious freedoms, protected by the Establishment Clause in the 1st Amendment. Her boyfriend, Adam Mutterperl, is the son of one of the most well-connected leftist Jewish families on the East Coast (add the West Coast to that, apparently), with ties to neo-Marxist Brandeis University as decades old donors… and whose father, Bill Mutterperl, worked directly for Paul Volcker, one of Obama’s pals, advisors, and Keynesian “stimulus” bill architects. Yet, we’re supposed to believe that this just boils down to a poor girl needing us to “subsidize” her birth control. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 08:45 AM (P6QsQ)

155 Did you have an extra Fiber One bar this morning dagny?

KIDDING!!!! DON'T HIT ME!

Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 08:45 AM (X7Mcs)

156 good morning

gman.....seriously?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 08:45 AM (Ho2rs)

157

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 08:43 AM (sxq57) If you are fine living in Obama's America for another term, by all means--take your ball and go home. You will own the results of the 2nd term. I hope that destroying America is better to you than pinching your nose and voting R one more time.If Bamster gets re-elected, I don't think that I will ever come back to the US.

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:45 AM (0401c)

158 Ah, campaign season at AoSHQ.

Posted by: nickless at March 15, 2012 08:45 AM (MMC8r)

159 >>No one gives a FUCK about your principles when the whole goddamn free world and the United States of America are at stake.

I expect anyone in the re-education camps preening about how at least they have their integrity b/c they refused to vote against SCOAMF are going to hafta worry about their fellow inmates more than the guards.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 08:46 AM (ZKzrr)

160 People have all day every day of their lives to make symbolic points and "send messages" to politicians. Once every four years they have a chance to move beyond the symbolic and actually have a material effect. Anyone who chooses to stay home on election day to "make a statement" is a fucktard.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 15, 2012 08:46 AM (hiMsy)

161 Sio, dagny, how hard is it to talk with Mitt's cock that far down your throat?

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 08:43 AM (sxq57)

That's bullshit and rude and uncalled for. Most of us just recognize the importance of getting rid of obama at any cost.

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 08:46 AM (i6RpT)

162 I honestly can't decide which is worse: primary season or the formatting of comments at this blog. My laptop just won't do it...

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:47 AM (0401c)

163 All of this talk of stay-at-home could have been avoided if everyone had refused to vote for Mutt to begin with as I recommended early in the process.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 08:47 AM (YdQQY)

164 mama winger


she wasn't talking about HER contraception needs...she was talking about EVERYONE elses...

and not to conjure up the twitwit but i thought....hmmmm she's talking about her "friends".....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 08:47 AM (Ho2rs)

165
You can say what you want about Santorum and I'm no Santorum fan, or fan of any of the smegma candidates the republicans have foisted upon conservatives.
Give the guy a break. This is America and the last ime I checked we used to speak english.
I for one am so sick of pressing 1 for english (nowadays in the SW its press 2).
Crap, I was in Detriot a while back and they had press 1 for Eubonics!

Posted by: LittleSmod at March 15, 2012 08:47 AM (fCf3K)

166 >>Puerto Rican schools really suck and that English is simultaneously compulsory and neglected from first through twelfth grade.

So...not much different than most existing states.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 08:47 AM (ZKzrr)

167 I don't know GMan how hard is it to talk with Obama's cock in your throat and Eric Holder's up your ass?

You love it and don't want it to go away, admit it. Just admit it troll.

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 08:47 AM (u50z0)

168 nevergiveup,

Fuck that. If you want to be an insulting ass, expect it right back.

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 08:47 AM (sxq57)

169 Can we get back to talking about Santorum being evil for not liking the gays 'Ricans?

Posted by: nickless at March 15, 2012 08:48 AM (MMC8r)

170
Can we just fast-forward to election day? I can't take it until then...

At least March Madness is here.

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:48 AM (0401c)

171 #167 I'm sorry, all I got was "mmff grlms schlulrp glgile"

Maybe try taking Mitt's cock out a bit before talking, ok?

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 08:48 AM (sxq57)

172 "That is exactly what I said, but the key here is "most" States. Some
States simply paying 10K will not get you on the ballot. You have to
canvass hundreds of districts getting registered voters to sign a
petition to get you on the ballot. That takes a lot of money to hire
those people unless you are crazy uncle and have thousands of potheads
to do it for you based on decades of running a pothead ticket."

Then raise the freak'n money.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 08:49 AM (GZitp)

173 Two nights ago on the ONT there were posters who said they would not vote for Santorum if he were the nominee. Not all the "I won't vote" people are the Not-Romneys.

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 08:49 AM (P6QsQ)

174 Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 08:43 AM (sxq57)


Don't want Obama to finish ruining America: Mitt's cock down your throat

Fine with wandering the streets "shooting people and taking their stash of Big Mac wrappers for licking the cheese off later" survival strategy: preserving voting integrity

Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 08:49 AM (X7Mcs)

175 Santorum continues to do the impossible; he makes Romney look acceptable.

Posted by: Former Republican at March 15, 2012 08:50 AM (cSkp1)

176
mama winger: true.
We all need to keep our eyes on the prize--ABO, ABO, ABO

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 08:50 AM (0401c)

177 and not to conjure up the twitwit but i thought....hmmmm she's talking about her "friends".....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 08:47 AM



Hmmmmmm ..... could it be? Nawwwwww ....


Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 08:51 AM (P6QsQ)

178 Dagny, don't even listen to those who see no difference in the choice we will have in November. Some of them are not what they claim to be and are just here to weaken your resolve. Some are actually libs. Some JUST KNOW that there is a Conservative Messiah waiting in the wings for 2016 (forget the damage that 4 more for SCFOAMF will do). Some don't love this country and want to see it fall. Some are just stupid assholes. Let them bitch on their tiny little soapbox. Let them stamp their feet and shout. Fuck em.

Posted by: Sgt. Fury at March 15, 2012 08:51 AM (QACbj)

179 That's why I love politics-- All the cock down the throat!

Posted by: Andi Sullivan at March 15, 2012 08:51 AM (MMC8r)

180 Let them stamp their feet and shout. Fuck em.
Posted by: Sgt. Fury at March 15, 2012 08:51 AM (QACbj)
Amen

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 08:52 AM (i6RpT)

181 The choice is easy: ABO.

Posted by: NC Ref at March 15, 2012 08:52 AM (/izg2)

182 Well now Santorum is poaching on that idiot Rubio's turf. Senator Rubio has already claimed the role of 'Senator from Puerto Rico.'
-----
The language issue with regard to Puerto Rico is a major issue should Puerto Rico become a state. To dismiss it by noting a school language requirement is as nonsensical a Santorum's comments. Puerto Rican statehood is a minefield of multilingual stupidities coming to a town near you.
---
At the most basic level there is a big difference between 'Commonwealth' and 'Associated Free State'.


Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 08:52 AM (eEfYn)

183 The reason to vote for Mitt is so the republic can last until the next election when we can primary his ass with a conservative.

Posted by: nickless at March 15, 2012 08:53 AM (MMC8r)

184 Somebody loves to talk about Mitt's wiener. Anyone see American Beauty?

Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 08:53 AM (X7Mcs)

185 Ya know the Taliban really are stupid. All they have to do is say yes to their friend in the White House, sign what ever piece of shit "peace" treaty obama wants and then let the US get out and Afghanistan will fall into their laps in 3 month time.

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 08:54 AM (i6RpT)

186 "Danny Boy" on FOX

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 08:54 AM (i6RpT)

187 Oh, and fuck Bruce Springsteen sideways with a rusty pineapple.
http://is.gd/XxGNKx

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 08:54 AM (ZKzrr)

188 Let me have men against me that are dumb;
Sleek-headed men and such as sleep o' nights;
Yond' Rick has a lean and hungry look;
He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.

Posted by: Julius Ides of March Mutt Romney at March 15, 2012 08:54 AM (YdQQY)

189 "Anyone who chooses to stay home on election day to "make a statement" is a fucktard."




Posted by: Lincolntf at March 15, 2012 08:46 AM (hiMsy)
+1Although that is too complicated for some people around here.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 08:55 AM (nEUpB)

190
There really are conservatives:

Sen. Toomey Praises Passage Of Farm Truck Amendment

U.S. Senator Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) today praised Senate passage of a bipartisan amendment he co-sponsored to the pending highway bill that would free farmers from onerous red tape.

The amendment, which passed by voice vote, would clarify that the federal government may not require farmers to comply with the same red tape reporting requirements that apply to long-haul truckers. Farm truck regulations would instead be left to states to decide, without interference from the U.S. Transportation Department.

http://tinyurl.com/7ea7xmm

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 15, 2012 08:55 AM (7+pP9)

191 A little silicone spray will prevent your pineapples from rusting, fyi.

Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 08:55 AM (X7Mcs)

192 >>would clarify that the federal government may not require farmers to
comply with the same red tape reporting requirements that apply to
long-haul truckers.

But will SCOAMF sign it?

And can we get busy freeing other industries from "onerous red tape"?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 08:56 AM (ZKzrr)

193 The reason to vote for Mitt is so the republic can last until the next election when we can primary his ass with a conservative.

Thanks. I needed that laugh.

There will be no primary- not a serious one, at any rate- of Mitt Romney (assuming he's our nominee and then goes on to win the WH). Many (if not all) of the same voices now saying you have to vote for him or you're a Liberal Troll now will then be saying that you can't primary him because it will damage him for the General, still fail, and then hand the country over to the next Socialist waiting in the wings.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 08:57 AM (8y9MW)

194


I bought myself a dozen gorgeous roses yesterday. They are pink with deep burgundy edges. I put them in a lovely vase and sat them right next to my computer. They remind me that in the midst of the ugliness that is the Obama administration, there are still beautiful things in life to be enjoyed and savored .

When Obama leaves the White House, I am buying myself 12 dozen . I'm going to need more vases.

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 08:57 AM (P6QsQ)

195 However, I'm happy to grant them independence if they would like that.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 08:09 AM (xUM1Q)

If they become independent, then they would get more in foreign aid!

Posted by: abandon at March 15, 2012 08:57 AM (We7+K)

196 Cry, 'Havoc!' and let slip the pukes of the primary debates.

Posted by: Mark I am a poor voter Anthony at March 15, 2012 08:58 AM (YdQQY)

197 Squeal like a pig GMan. Who's more satisfying Holder or Obama?

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 08:59 AM (u50z0)

198 A little silicone spray will prevent your pineapples from rusting, fyi.


Or you could stick it up Springstein's rectum while still green.

Posted by: Martha fucking Stewart at March 15, 2012 08:59 AM (vRSeu)

199 More chickenshit from Gabe.

Posted by: Matt at March 15, 2012 09:00 AM (90w0O)

200
Arlen Specter a party-switcher and political opportunist like no one in living memory...

http://tinyurl.com/79w892f

Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at March 15, 2012 09:00 AM (7+pP9)

201 Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 08:54 AM (ZKzrr)

Springsteen was my favorite rocker (by far) in my youth. I saw several of his amazing shows, but since about 1985 he has done nothing original, and has devolved into an immensely wealthy caricature of the populist strummer, rousing the people from their slumber and marching on Washington.

Unfortunately for Springsteen, he is too busy hanging out in Rumson (a fabulously wealthy town), taking his daughter to equestrian competitions, and thumbing his nose at the people who made him rich to be taken seriously as a representative of "the people."

I agree: fuck Bruce Springsteen.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 09:00 AM (nEUpB)

202 12 Gauge, 3 rifled slugs alternating with 30Buckshot is standard in Sierra camping when bears are around. You don't want to have to shoot if you can avoid it but that will drop damn near anything if you don't miss or shoot it in the toe.

Posted by: SurferDoc at March 15, 2012 09:00 AM (6H6FZ)

203 It might not be a bad idea for an explicitly 'primary free' thread. My BP can't handle any more...

Posted by: In Exile at March 15, 2012 09:00 AM (0401c)

204 Talked to my brother, he says the best reason to not make English the official language of the US is because that is something Europe might do(making official languages).

I'm persuaded.

Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 15, 2012 09:01 AM (xAtAj)

205 You don't have to vote for Romney in the primary. You just have to vote for the nominee against Obama. If you don't think you should vote against Obama, you are, by definition a liberal troll.


No difficult to understand unless you're like Gman and have all your orifices filled by Critical Race Theorists.

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 09:01 AM (u50z0)

206 187 (Springsteen)
--
His latest album. I guess they never listened closely to his first 16 albums. Like most 'pop artists' Springsteen is a leftist (even country has gotten more leftish) and his music has always reflected that. Now he is just upset that Obama is FAIL and he must see OWS as a revival of the protests of his youth that he missed out on. I think it might be a psychological thing as the nuns who were his teachers were probably proto-Santori.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 09:01 AM (eEfYn)

207 Once again for the dumbasses who accuse me of being a single issue voter:

Romney and Santorum (and each of the other GOP candidates, including my first choice, Perry) have the exact same position on gay issues. They both supported DADT, they both support DOMA, and they both support a future Federal Marriage Amendment. They are not meaningfully distinguishable on this issue.

So to say that must be the "single issue" that I'm interested in is absolutely the dumbest thing I hear on a daily basis. You know who you are.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2012 09:02 AM (+zL0z)

208 Friends, Americans, Republicans, lend me your money;

I come to bury Mutt, not to praise him.

The evil that he did lives after in MA;

The good is not to be found.

Posted by: Mark Santorum Anthony at March 15, 2012 09:02 AM (YdQQY)

209 Posted by: Matt at March 15, 2012 09:00 AM (90w0O)

What an impressively intellectual riposte!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 09:02 AM (nEUpB)

210 >>>Anyway, the gay baiting around here should stop.<<<

Yes, stop the gay baiting so we can concentrate on the Catholic bashing.


Idiot.

Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 09:02 AM (vrYVY)

211 Good morning 'rons and 'ettes.

Nothing I can recall has gotten under my skin as much as that Karen Finney clip saying "conservative values" is a codeword for racism. I have been fuming about that for a day now.

It is so revealing about what the left really thinks. The mask slipped in a moment of weakness and they revealed their true thoughts. What a despicable excuse for a human being.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 09:02 AM (nMiwq)

212 Springsteen's rectum is green?

I guess the old Thunder Road is turning into Badlands. I'll bet it's On Fire.

Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 09:02 AM (X7Mcs)

213 The other thing too, is that these same No Mittens! crowd will be coming to you in 2016 (should SCFOAMF win) and say; "Hey sorry I said all those things about cock in your mouth, let's all unite behind my prefered conservative candidate and be friends". Because they'll need you then, you see. THEN, by God, they'll want you on the team. Then they wont be asking you if you like cock in your mouth. See they think that this is all one way. It isn't. I can be a spiteful motherfucker too. Keep pushing assholes.

Posted by: Sgt. Fury at March 15, 2012 09:03 AM (QACbj)

214 I'm no expert, but screaming 'traitor' at the stay-at-homers doesn't seem to be an effective strategy.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 15, 2012 09:03 AM (/NCSB)

215 Many (if not all) of the same voices now saying you have to vote for him or you're a Liberal Troll now will then be saying that you can't primary him because it will damage him for the General, still fail, and then hand the country over to the next Socialist waiting in the wings.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 08:57 AM (8y9MW)

_______________________________

Well, it's easy to justify staying home this election when your goal is to crash everything as quickly as possible. For those of us who want to keep things going as long as possible, sitting out the next election is madness. Pure folly.
So I'd amend prior comments to this - if you advocate staying home this election you are either A. a Liberal Troll or B. An Apocalypse Booster who wants the commies to crash America so it can be rebuilt. I think those two cover it.

Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 09:03 AM (xUM1Q)

216 Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2012 09:02 AM (+zL0z)

Today I found out that you are a "single issue" blogger...and you are GAY!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 09:04 AM (nEUpB)

217 Anyone else see that embarrassing Brian Williams interview last night with PM Cameron? The idiot spent the first 10 minutes asking Cameron about movies! Like all we dumbass Americans know about Britain is what we saw in "The King's Speech." I was just floored.

Posted by: rockmom at March 15, 2012 09:05 AM (YPgCz)

218 #197

Well dagny, seeing as how I held my nose and voted for Bush, and McCain, and *was* until your little rant calling me liberal troll reconsidering my "don't vote for president, but vote downticket stance for the republicans (fat lot of good that will be anyhow, except maybe for senate, since where I live makes Berkeley look normal)" stance even if Mitt is the nominee I'd say I wouldn't know.

I know, I know, I'm totally irrational. You know, wanting someone that actually more closely represents my beliefs. I'm fairly certain that Romney is far far to the left of where I am on issues I actually care about. He's actually far enough left on *those* issues that I *really* don't see a big enough difference between him and Obama. Unfortunately, those are my primary issues...the ones that would, in a normal election year, help me decide to vote *for* a candidate. They're not there. Yes, Obama is terrible, but so is Romney. Further, they're both really terrible *in the things that matter the most to me right now*. So, go ahead, and keep calling me a liberal troll. Because all it's doing is making me more sure I'm right that I wouldn't want to be associated with someone that has people like you as supporters.

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 09:05 AM (sxq57)

219 I also think that 2008 twice in a row will permanently destroy the Republican Party.
--

What the Republican Party "is" already was proven.
It doesn't need your approval.
It will go on regardless of you.
It plays us all as fools.
It already destroyed us.
To which level each of us perceives that is yet an individual matter.

How personally significant your membership in that party is remains the only question. Do you belong where you are abused by your "betters"? Do you cling to the idea that you are assessed any value by the Republican Party beyond the taxes and donations you submit? Consider whether the fear of being ostracized is more intense than the outrageous injuries from treacherous Republican Party leadership?

If I must be a bitter clinger, then as ever it's to my Constitution and Faith in God given Rights to every Person. And to the extent that the Republican/Democrat Party revises Constitutional Governance into authoritarianism, may God in mercy grant new life to Liberty in the destruction of corruption.

Our responsibilities as Americans are to America, upholding the integrity of the US Constitution. To the extent that we fail, we destroy ourselves. Whatever else, without integrity at home, there is no "moral" exportation.

http://tinyurl.com/7kz8swy
SHAME SCOAMF! Bush started and persisted in promoting this never ending war, establishing the "Karzai" Suicidal Rules of Engagement sabotaging our finest service men and women. Obama is a SCOAMF. To pretend that the next (Republican) President will not be a SCOAMF "is" an exercise in futility requiring a willing suspension of disbelief, just as hoping that voters will make a difference for the better is without merit in a corrupt "owned" ballot system.


Posted by: maverick muse at March 15, 2012 09:06 AM (lpWVn)

220 rockmom

did he ask about the princes? did he find anything out about kate?////

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 09:06 AM (Ho2rs)

221 Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 09:02 AM (vrYVY)

You ain't seen nothing yet.

Posted by: Zombie Al Smith at March 15, 2012 09:06 AM (nEUpB)

222 >>>61
How do you say "Satan likes when you use contraception" in Puerto Rican?

Livin' la Vida Loca?


R-r-r-r-r-r-Yah-yah-Yah-yah-YAH!

Posted by: Rick R-R-Rolls at March 15, 2012 09:07 AM (/ZZCn)

223 215 You can tell that GMan was a troll because he resorted so quickly to name calling. That's typical libturd.

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 09:07 AM (u50z0)

224 "Soldiers asked to disarm during Leon Panetta speech --
US soldiers were asked to disarm during a speech by Leon Panetta, the American defence secretary"

Major General Mark Gurganus later said he gave the order because Afghan troops attending the talk were unarmed and he wanted the policy to be consistent for all.

http://tinyurl.com/7kz8swy

Itchy and Scratchy CIA/Defense Sec. PANETTA issued the Obama order that Gurganus carried out. This bullshit that an underling issues suicidal orders that didn't come from above isn't going to sell amongst Obama's opponents in the voting booth. Is this a pathetic and audaciously insane ploy attempting to cue the anti-war voters into Obama's fold? No sale.

DISTRUST THE MARINES?! Americans at home see that our government absolutely distrusts our troops. What idiots will take from that is their own official lead to distrust our service men and women.Prepare for the Alinsky victimization of our Military service members to be portrayed by the media as baby killers, to be abused as the Vietnam Veterans were. DHS Sec. Napolitano's first memo "radical veterans" made evident the national policy trajectory set into motion. One bad apple in the lot means punitive action against every trooper. Considering this CinC response to the Afghan murders, penalizing the entire Military with abject distrust, there's logic to be found in the set-up to the fray.

It's the making for another Ft. Hood unarmed massacre on global scale, disarming our troops in a congregated area mixed with saboteurs, whether leaders or stooges.

Posted by: maverick muse at March 15, 2012 09:07 AM (lpWVn)

225 #220 I was actually surprised that wasn't his next line of questioning. I give PM Cameron a lot of credit for not rolling his eyes and laughing at Williams. It was just weapons-grade stupid.

Posted by: rockmom at March 15, 2012 09:08 AM (YPgCz)

226
My town passed an english only proclamation several years ago, wasn't even an ordinance, just simply a statement saying that they consider the town to be english only. This didn't go unnoticed by the mexican minority in this Ohio town of 3500 people.

They stormed city hall at the next council meeting and came out with not only the proclamation recinded, but a once a year mexicanparty inthe city park sponsored by the city.

Posted by: Jimmah at March 15, 2012 09:08 AM (amaZR)

227 *I* resorted to name-calling????

Really?

So, "traitor", and "liberal" and "troll" isn't name-calling now?
News to me.

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 09:08 AM (sxq57)

228 Repost to change topic from flame war

The wonders of human rights under Sharia code. 16 year old girl kills
herself rather than marry her rapist as directed by judge. These people
are savages with no hint of civilization and should either be civilized
or exterminated like the cockroaches that they are.

http://is.gd/LE9MU1

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 09:09 AM (YdQQY)

229 Talked to my brother, he says the best reason to not make English the official language of the US is because that is something Europe might do(making official languages).Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 15, 2012 09:01 AM (xAtAj)

__________________________

Meh. Not good enough for me. Evena blind pig finds a truffle once in a while. English as official language is vital, otherwise I'm going to have to learn Spanish to do my official business with the government in a few more years. That's not OK when in the US. I expect it in other nations where English is not dominant- but not here. F that. No bilingual forms, even. It's all waste and added expense, and it undermines cultural homogeneity (which, contrary to what libtards think, is a good thing). We need to bind our people together more, not break them apart more.

Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 09:09 AM (xUM1Q)

230 Bevel, if they're going to stay at home who gives a fuck what they think? They're removed from the process and are just shit-talking bleacher bums now.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 15, 2012 09:10 AM (hiMsy)

231 Pope Ricky had another gaffe? what a shocker

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:10 AM (yAor6)

232 if you advocate staying home this election you are either A. a Liberal
Troll or B. An Apocalypse Booster who wants the commies to crash America
so it can be rebuilt. I think those two cover it.


C. Someone who believes that the WH is a lost cause whether it's Romney or Obama, and will focus on down-ticket races.

Just to fill out the options, there.

I'm not one of them, but I understand the people (to some extent, anyway) who look at Romney and Obama and say "Where's the policy difference?" And the "judges" thing- while important- is still a gamble (albeit somewhat less of one) with Romney. IIRC, his selection of judges in MA as Governor left a bit to be desired.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 09:11 AM (8y9MW)

233 Yeah, "People like me as supporters". People who will vote against Obama. Troll. You're a lib, vote lib.


You're waiting for whom? Where is he? That's how we know you're lying. You're not advocating a candidate who all have problems btw, you're advocating not voting against Obama.


Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 09:11 AM (u50z0)

234 Besides dagny. I didn't actually call you any names. I just *implied" some things.

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 09:11 AM (sxq57)

235 "Well, it's easy to justify staying home this election when your goal is to crash everything as quickly as possible."


That's what kills me. What is the plan after the "crash"? Hunt and scavenge? No thanks.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 09:11 AM (GZitp)

236 231 Pope Ricky had another gaffe? what a shocker
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:10 AM (yAor6)


What was it about this time, banning divorce?

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:11 AM (niZvt)

237 Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:11 AM (niZvt)
lol, I was talking about about the Puerto Rico thing, seriously this guy is a master at offending the voters he want

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:12 AM (yAor6)

238 Frankly, I'd prefer not to hear all this talk about cocksucking and buttsex this morning.

Posted by: Blago at March 15, 2012 09:12 AM (MMC8r)

239 #224 Don't you know, veterans and military families are victims. They won't be portrayed as babykillers by this crowd, they know better than that. Much better to portray them as victims of Bushitler's madness, needing billions of dollars in psychiatric care and housing subsidies and other expensive crap that they can continue bleeding the taxpayers for. They are much more sophisticated than the '60s and '70s radicals were.

Posted by: rockmom at March 15, 2012 09:12 AM (YPgCz)

240 These people are savages with no hint of civilization and should either be civilized or exterminated like the cockroaches that they are.http://is.gd/LE9MU1
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 09:09 AM (YdQQY)

______________________
Well said. Since the former option is impossible, the later option should be put in place as quickly as possible.

Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 09:12 AM (xUM1Q)

241 "The worst thing about yesterday was waiting three hours for the results of the blood test and getting the pump from the pharmacy.
During that time I had to listen to this black lady spouting crap right out of Derrick Bell movies."

Sounds like Obamacare!

Posted by: USA at March 15, 2012 09:12 AM (6Cjut)

242 213 The other thing too, is that these same No Mittens! crowd will be coming to you in 2016 (should SCFOAMF win) and say; "Hey sorry I said all those things about cock in your mouth, let's all unite behind my prefered conservative candidate and be friends".

***

No one should have to say that. The candidate should be good enough that no brow-beating and loyalty oaths are necessary. The nomination should be based on who appeals to the most Republicans, not threats and invective.

Romney (and the others) are too shitty to do that. Mitt's candidacy is built around threats and invective.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 15, 2012 09:13 AM (/NCSB)

243 Most. Transparent. Administration. Evah!

http://wapo.st/wTeGKR

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 09:13 AM (8y9MW)

244 You know who I liked, who isn't in any more Dagny? I liked Gov. Perry. I didn't care for Pawlenty, but he would have been acceptable. I think Gingrich is entertaining, but that doesn't make him presidential material. Paul is crazy. Right now, I'd vote for Santorum given the chance, but that won't happen as I'm pretty sure that Romney is going to be the nominee.

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 09:13 AM (sxq57)

245 217 Anyone else see that embarrassing Brian Williams interview last night with PM Cameron? The idiot spent the first 10 minutes asking Cameron about movies! Like all we dumbass Americans know about Britain is what we saw in "The King's Speech." I was just floored.
Posted by: rockmom at March 15, 2012 09:05 AM (YPgCz)


At least Brian didn't pull out a bag of M&M's out of his pocket and ask Cameron if he could fap watching him eat it.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:13 AM (niZvt)

246 @ 213 +1, i'll remember that come (God, forbid)2016

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:14 AM (yAor6)

247 232 But allen, if you're at the polls why would you give your vote to Obama? To punish republicans for fronting people you don't like? Obama as a lame duck is terrifying. And even with the senate you would have to have so many to override a presidential veto.

A Republican president even if a rino is at least susceptible to party pressure when Obama, lame duck, would go so hard left that the flag really would have his visage on it.

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 09:14 AM (u50z0)

248 Did you guys see that story on Hotair about Wasilla High School in Alaska putting up a giant statue of Sandra Fluke?

Disturbing.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:14 AM (niZvt)

249 Implying that a lady had a dick down her throat is not really in line with the kind of decency that I find in the conservative people I know.

Posted by: Sgt. Fury at March 15, 2012 09:14 AM (QACbj)

250 Try again

UN issues report praising Gadaffi's human rights record. These are the
people who will evaluate our voting requirements for the NAACP. I say
send the NAACP to one of the third world shit holes that make up this
council and see how much they get to vote.

http://is.gd/BO2BqT

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 09:15 AM (YdQQY)

251 @230 why bother screaming at them then? Just ignore them.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 15, 2012 09:15 AM (/NCSB)

252 #249 saying that I'm a traitor isn't the kind of thing that makes me feel like being very decent to a person.

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 09:15 AM (sxq57)

253 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 09:11 AM (8y9MW)

_________________________________

Fair enough - but imagine Obie without another election hanging over his head. The man is a Stalinist. Do you really think that 2nd term Obama will be as mild and defensive as 1st term Obama? The difference between term 2 obastard and Mitt will be so extreme as to be almost impossible to parody.
He'll have nothing to hold him back, and our side certainly doesn't have the spine to stop him.

Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 09:15 AM (xUM1Q)

254 I will ban blowjobs, so stop talking about it

Posted by: Pope Ricky at March 15, 2012 09:16 AM (yAor6)

255 I loved Perry, I sent him money. I advocated for him. Then he decided to what? Not prepare for the debates? Take pain killers (poor guy)? Hell, I would have supported anyone who wasn't a complete incompetent but I will vote for a feces covered crack whore against Obama.

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 09:16 AM (u50z0)

256 244 You know who I liked, who isn't in any more Dagny?

Hey, hey... you shouldn't talk about Dagny like that...

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:16 AM (niZvt)

257 "Repost to change topic from flame war"


Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 09:09 AM (YdQQY)



Is your last name Bloomberg? Because you are acting like a nanny!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 09:17 AM (nEUpB)

258 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 09:13 AM (8y9MW)

Do my eyes deceive me or is the author Joe Davidson black?

There goes his chance to play QB for the Bears.

Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 09:17 AM (X7Mcs)

259 Had my first shower in prison this morning and it was fckn' golden!

Posted by: Rod Blagojevich at March 15, 2012 09:18 AM (gh6F5)

260 234 Spare me.

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 09:18 AM (u50z0)

261 @ 259 DISGUSTING, im gonna sign a bill banning that as President don't yah know?

Posted by: Pope Ricky at March 15, 2012 09:18 AM (yAor6)

262 For amusement? As an object lesson to others? Because I'm bored to death...all sorts of reasons.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 15, 2012 09:18 AM (hiMsy)

263 Having lived in PR for Four years, I can tell you 75% of that island can't speak English. Nor do "public schools" truly teach it. Most native Puerto Ricans who speak english went to private schools, or to the military school at fort Buck.

Posted by: E at March 15, 2012 09:19 AM (lS30B)

264 History Channel is now rerunning "Crude". Hysterical BS that they keep running over and over like propaganda not history, (since their predictions ahem, haven't happened).
Colin Campbell some dead senile crank predicted peak US capacity for 2000.

"Most experts think that he was close to right"
The '08 show is now revising that we peaked in '06.Coincidentally much like the adjustable AGW creeping incorrect doom predictions these relentless liars are never wrong, just close.

Posted by: ontherocks at March 15, 2012 09:19 AM (ZJCDy)

265 255 I loved Perry, I sent him money. I advocated for him. Then he decided to what? Not prepare for the debates? Take pain killers (poor guy)? Hell, I would have supported anyone who wasn't a complete incompetent but I will vote for a feces covered crack whore against Obama.
Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 09:16 AM (u50z0)


I would even bite the bullet and vote for Pope Santorum - I'd say "pull the lever," except I'm sure he's against that - although I would not be happy about it.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:19 AM (niZvt)

266 >>16 year old girl kills
herself rather than marry her rapist as directed by judge.

And that's pretty much all the culture I need to know on World Day of Muslim Culture, Peace, Dialogue and Film.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 09:19 AM (ZKzrr)

267 "How'd Mr. Inevitable do on Tuesday, again Gabe?"

That's weak. Romney took the most delegates and expanded his lead by 6. As I said yesterday, the game is 1144, not moral victories.

As of today, Romney has a good chance of reaching 1144, given the voting trends and the upcoming winner take all states. Santorum needs to significantly over perform from his current baseline to get to 1144. Even winning the winner take all, he can't get to 1144 at his current support levels. Gingrich is mathematically eliminated and is only in it to try and stop Romney from getting to 1144. Gingrich dropping out will not help Santorum, since Romney is the second choice for about half his supporters.

If I had to guess, I would say Romney will cross 1144 in the California primary in June.

Did anyone notice that Romney gave Santorum a huge gift in Illinois yesterday by withdrawing challenges? If the challenges had been kept in place, he would have only been able to compete for 14 delegates, instead of the 44 he can now compete for. As it is, he still can't compete in several Congregational districts because he failed to submit enough signatures.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 09:19 AM (nMiwq)

268 This thread has taken on a very bold tone.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:19 AM (niZvt)

269 Bold statement.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 09:19 AM (ZKzrr)

270 bold be gone

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 09:20 AM (nMiwq)

271 #260

Seriously, though. I didn't start out calling you a liberal, or a traitor. Hell, I didn't even start out with name-calling (and I think I did do some here, but not directly to you).

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 09:20 AM (sxq57)

272 Obamanite liars release new unemployment lies and AP/Fox spreads them.

http://is.gd/lxiXto

Yes, the economy is getting so much better even thought the actual number of working people is getting smaller. Just wait until October

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 09:20 AM (YdQQY)

273 cool czech

santorum is so pure ......he would return your vote..//////

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 09:20 AM (Ho2rs)

Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 09:20 AM (X7Mcs)

275 Posted by: E at March 15, 2012 09:19 AM (lS30B)
having been from there and lived there for more then your four years I dispute this. Puerto Ricans must learn english as they grow up and much more then just 25% don't know it. The older folks tend to not know it as much as the younger folks who do, but Spanish is the #1 language down there

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:21 AM (yAor6)

276 But allen, if you're at the polls why would you give your vote to Obama?

First: not voting for either candidate is not "voting for Obama." It's not voting for either candidate. Let's get that clear. While we may not like the ramification thereof, "A pox on both your houses" is a valid political position.

Second, in my case, I don't have to hold my nose to vote for Romney- I'm in Texas and one of two things will be true: 1) The Republican (whoever it is) will win Texas. 2) If Texas is a battle ground- that means we've already lost.

However, an affirmative vote for Romney is an indication that I support what he stands for. And, compared to Obama, I do- so I may pull that lever anyway. In the primary? No F'ing way. Within the microcosm of Conservative politics, Romney is so far out of touch with my values that he almost doesn't register.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 09:21 AM (8y9MW)

277 Is your last name Bloomberg? Because you are acting like a nanny!


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 09:17 AM (nEUpB)
------------------------
I'm tired of the internal flame wars over these 4 shitty candidates, none who are worth a damn.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 09:22 AM (YdQQY)

278 This site are begins to suck. All the time c**k down the throat. Never to be t*ts in the face!

Posted by: Tired of all the time c**k down the throat at March 15, 2012 09:22 AM (iwTh6)

279 "Fuck you dagny."

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 08:30 AM (sxq57)


QED

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 09:22 AM (nEUpB)

280

Very poor taste

Posted by: Martha Stewart at March 15, 2012 09:23 AM (vRSeu)

281 That's name calling now, huh CBD? Cause I thought that was, you know, not calling someone a name.

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 09:23 AM (sxq57)

282 stop saying cock!now buy my $100 sweatervests

Posted by: Pope Ricky at March 15, 2012 09:23 AM (yAor6)

283 Michael Yon discusses the disaster that is Afghanistan. Link @ nic.

Posted by: maddogg at March 15, 2012 09:23 AM (OlN4e)

284 I didn't even read your comments gman, I scrolled through the comments and saw a flash of "staying home" and addressed my first comment to "anyone who" not you specifically. You took it on. Then you started your comment with "fuck you dagny". So there you go. I'm not going to sit around and take that so.....


You're still wrong to not vote against Obama.

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 09:24 AM (u50z0)

285 I'm tired of the internal flame wars over these 4 shitty candidates, none who are worth a damn.
---
Yes, but Romney is nearly worth a damn. I think that makes a difference.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 09:24 AM (eEfYn)

286 Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 09:22 AM (YdQQY)

Four candidates?

Ron Paul just needs a big red clown nose to complete his costume.

Yup...they all suck.

But I'll bet a bottle of good bourbon that you will be voting for one of them. You won't be sitting out.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 09:24 AM (nEUpB)

287 But I'll bet a bottle of good bourbon that you will be voting for one of them. You won't be sitting out.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 09:24 AM (nEUpB)
-----------------------------
I could use a bottle of good bourbon today. Gonna be sunny and 82° with all the trees in full bloom.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 09:26 AM (YdQQY)

288 gman

dagny's comments were not directed at you personally...your comment was directed at dagny....

can't we all just vote obama out......i don't like any of the idiots left.....but i'll vote for any one of them except paul.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 09:26 AM (Ho2rs)

289 Alright early morning crowd. Let's all head over to my place and increase my hit-count. Errr... I mean read my insightful blog post that went up this morning.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 09:26 AM (8y9MW)

290 What's the matter, Arthur, does the Pope not approve of your lifestyle?

Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 09:26 AM (vrYVY)

291 Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 09:23 AM (sxq57)

Parse all you want.

If you don't vote against Obama then you are beneath contempt. It means that you aren't fighting for this great country.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 09:27 AM (nEUpB)

292 #284

Listen. I'll apologize, this once, for flying off the handle. But your post was for "anyone that won't vote for mitt" then proceeded to call those people (of which I am one) liberals and traitors. I won't sit and take *that* so...I got upset. I'm sorry.

And maybe I am still wrong not to vote against Obama, but it's my vote. I *do* really wish that the republicans had put up some better choices. I mean *really* wish they had. This really sucks.

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 09:27 AM (sxq57)

293 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 09:26 AM (8y9MW) I think i'll sit this one out, doesn't matter which blog gets more hits

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:28 AM (yAor6)

294 Stop all these attacks on Santorum. He will win. Everyone in my order will vote for him.

Posted by: Mother Angelica at March 15, 2012 09:28 AM (Gx3Fe)

295 "How'd Mr. Inevitable do on Tuesday, again Gabe?"

That's weak.
Romney took the most delegates and expanded his lead by 6. As I said
yesterday, the game is 1144, not moral victories.


Indeed, and I'm fairly sure I already wrote about that here, kdny. I certainly talked about it enough on Twitter, where I congratulated Santorum for winning on Tuesday night, noting that he got 39 delegates, while Romney got 45.

So that's how "Mr. Inevitable," as you call him, did on Tuesday night. Won again. Inevitably.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2012 09:28 AM (+zL0z)

296 CBD - Vic said upthread that he will hold his nose and vote for Mitt if he is the nominee.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 09:28 AM (nMiwq)

297 >>>134
This is gonna cause a fussa. Lawsuit Could Make DOMA Applicable to Private Companies







I have a question. If a non-married couple can get married couple benefits, can/will/how soon shall a man/woman unmarried couple, now fight for the same benefits?



Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 09:28 AM (oKsWl)

298
HBO canceled their series Luck after a third horse died during production. Revenge of Palin?

Posted by: mike at March 15, 2012 09:28 AM (hPrrZ)

299 Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 09:26 AM (vrYVY) idk i'm not catholic and app. neither are Ricky's majority votes

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:28 AM (yAor6)

300 I was hoping he would get nervous as the day
approached and he would cut a deal to rat out Obama. But knowing the
DOJ, he is probably cutting a deal now to not rat him out.


Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 07:13 AM (YdQQY)

I'm sure he'll be on the Executive Pardons List that Obama signs as his last official act as POTUS.

Posted by: Nighthawk at March 15, 2012 09:29 AM (RSqz2)

301 Wow - Santorum the candidate tries to get votes.

Is there no scoop that Gabby hasn't gotten?

Posted by: Gerry at March 15, 2012 09:29 AM (+7Trq)

302 Ok, say there are 100 who can vote for candidate A or B. Last election 52 voted for candidate B and 48 voted for candidate A. This election 49 vote for candidate B and 48 vote for candidate A. But where are the other 3 guys? Oh, they stayed home or only voted down ballot to make a point.

Who wins? Candidate B because his voters don't stay home on "principle".


(not percentages, numbers)

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 09:29 AM (u50z0)

303 but to be a state in the United States, English has to be the main language.
--
Back when the nation knew what the hell they were doing that was an unofficial requirement. That is the primary reason New Mexican statehood was delayed for so long.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 09:30 AM (eEfYn)

304 I think i'll sit this one out, doesn't matter which blog gets more hits

RINO! (kidding- which I hope was obvious, but might not be on this thread)

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 09:30 AM (8y9MW)

305 I'll be honest. If Paul were the nominee, I would vote for him. Even that whack job can't be worse than the idiot currently in the Oval Office.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 09:30 AM (nMiwq)

306 Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 09:26 AM (YdQQY)

A friend gave me a bottle of Angel's Envy bourbon for Christmas (Yeah, I'm Jewish, but I won't refuse a gift of booze).

Obscenely expensive, but damn, it is good!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 09:31 AM (nEUpB)

307 New Mexico is a bilingual state. Our state constitution was written in English and Spanish, we conduct business in English and Spanish, and our ballots are printed in English and Spanish.

Should we get kicked out of the union?

Posted by: Embittered Redleg at March 15, 2012 09:31 AM (CuPwN)

308 @305 I thought the same and then he said let Iran have the bomb

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:31 AM (yAor6)

309
I'll be honest. If Paul were the nominee, I would vote for him. Even
that whack job can't be worse than the idiot currently in the Oval
Office.


Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 09:30 AM (nMiwq)--------------------------
I would too.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 09:32 AM (YdQQY)

310 >>I'm tired of the internal flame wars over these 4 shitty candidates, none who are worth a damn.

The only thing more boring than listening to these candidates is listening to people bitch at each other about these candidates. (Software verification runs a pretty close third.)


The NCAA exploits black kids.
http://is.gd/fngp9q

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 09:32 AM (ZKzrr)

311 I wonder if I'm the only one who comes to Malor's morning post to see Vic's morning roundup.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 15, 2012 09:32 AM (rX1N2)

312 (ABC) More than three dozen of President Obama’s top re-election campaign financiers are guests at tonight’s White House state dinner in honor of British Prime Minister David Cameron.

They include Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein, Vogue
editor-in-chief Anna Wintour, media mogul Fred Eychaner, Pfizer
executive Sally Susman, Stoneyfield Farms president and CEO Gary
Hirschberg, and Microsoft executives Suzi Levine and John Frank.
Several have each raised more than half a million dollars for 2012,
according to estimates provided by Obama’s campaign.

The group attending the dinner tonight is responsible for at least $10.7
million of the roughly $250 million Obama and Democrats have amassed
for the election cycle so far.






The man of people once again spending time with average Americans unlike those greedy Republicans who only care about the rich

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 15, 2012 09:32 AM (1Jaio)

313 Angel's Envy bourbon???

LOL, I'll have to Bing that one, never heard of it.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 09:33 AM (YdQQY)

314 Vic and Heather don't want me complaining about Ricky? that just makes me want to keep on doing it!

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:33 AM (yAor6)

315 Instead of fighting over Pres. nominees, what about VP picks. Who could you get behind?

Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 09:33 AM (oKsWl)

316 Well hell, I guess I should apologize for the "lick cheese off the Big Mac wrapper" jab.

It crossed the line.

Not looking to persuade anyone, but remember, Obama needed some backstabbing Republicans, party-switching dickwads, and kickback-taking senators to pass Obamacare and that was after he lost his 60 seat senate majority.

So I don't think Mitt or any president could likely singlehandedly disarm America.

Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 09:33 AM (X7Mcs)

317 I wonder if I'm the only one who comes to Malor's morning post to see Vic's morning roundup.

You're not.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 09:33 AM (8y9MW)

318 Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 09:28 AM (nMiwq)

I'm just yanking his chain a bit (and he knows that). He's a cranky old curmudgeon, but he understands what is at stake, unlike some others.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 09:33 AM (nEUpB)

319
"What an impressively intellectual riposte!"

Thanks man. From Charlie Brown's dildo, that means a lot...
At this point, I'm just tired of the trivial shit that everyone brings up about the GOP candidates. After all the pouting from some people about whata disaster Huckabee was and how they would vote for Obama or stay home if he were the nominee, I don't have the patience for now having to read one more stupid critique about Santorum. (Huckabee was about my 5th choice by the way.)
Santorum said something stupid in Puerto Rico? Great. Wait five minutes and Romney will say something stupid too.
All of our candidates suck. But I will vote for whoever gets the nomination.

Posted by: Matt at March 15, 2012 09:34 AM (90w0O)

320 @315 McDonell will be the VP pick, bank on it

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:34 AM (yAor6)

321 http://www.angelsenvy.com/whiskey/

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 09:35 AM (nEUpB)

322 307New Mexico is a bilingual state. Our state constitution was written in English and Spanish, we conduct business in English and Spanish, and our ballots are printed in English and Spanish.

Should we get kicked out of the union?Posted by: Embittered Redleg at March 15, 2012 09:31 AM (CuPwN) Yeah, probably.

Posted by: maddogg at March 15, 2012 09:35 AM (OlN4e)

323 Mr. Inevitable- Should be winning outright if he is in fact Mr. Inevitable.


And my comment was in fact weak since it was an emotional reaction to your visceral dislike of Santorum.

As far as the one issue thing- For me your one issue with Santorum seems to be that you hate SoCons not gay marraige specifically.

I give you credit,Gabe for not crying about "gay baiting" when these things come up.

Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 09:35 AM (vrYVY)

324 #320

Man, I misread that at first and thought it said Mcconnell

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 09:35 AM (sxq57)

325 320


What about Allen West? Rubio?

Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 09:35 AM (oKsWl)

326 "First: not voting for either candidate is not "voting for Obama.""

It certainly isn't casting a vote for the candidate trying, you know, to remove Barry from the WHite House.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 15, 2012 09:36 AM (kaOJx)

327 @307, as long as you got Susana Martinez you're fine

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:36 AM (yAor6)

328
Man, I misread that at first and thought it said Mcconnell


Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 09:35 AM (sxq57)

Shit. I just spit out my french toast coffee all over my keyboard.

Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 09:36 AM (oKsWl)

329 I'll be honest. If Paul were the nominee, I would vote for him. Even
that whack job can't be worse than the idiot currently in the Oval
Office.
----

The upside: That would be a good case study for someone to do in the future. Which idiot did more harm.
The downside: We are the data.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 09:36 AM (eEfYn)

330 Posted by: Matt at March 15, 2012 09:34 AM (90w0O)

Yup.

But...some people like to mix it up, even though the ultimate result is known.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 09:36 AM (nEUpB)

331 testing

dang thing won't let me post

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 09:36 AM (P6QsQ)

332 Didn't day you were Catholic, Arthur. I'm just curious about your obsession.

Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 09:37 AM (vrYVY)

333 I know Blago is a typical (or worse) sleazeball pol, but there are a lot of other Dems I'd rather see behind bars. Billy Bulger for one. Related: anyone think Jon Corzine goes on an "extended cruise" to some country with favorable banking/extradition conditions if it looks like Obama is going to lose in Nov.? I think I would.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 15, 2012 09:37 AM (hiMsy)

334 The only flaw in that dagny, is that by the time November rolls around, none of Candidate A voters will be staying home. In fact, polling is showing that the people worrying about voters staying home is the Obama campaign. Democrat enthusiasm levels have cratered from their all time high in 2008. This is why there are specific pushed for Black, Latino, and Women voters coming out right now. They aren't just "oh lets distract from the shitty economy" ploys. They are trying to gin up enthusiasm in depressed voting blocks.

The tactics are also backfiring.

GOP currently has a +8 enthusiasm advantage. Our voters won't be staying home in November. Their's will.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 09:37 AM (nMiwq)

335 >>can/will/how soon shall a man/woman unmarried couple, now fight for the same benefits?

Are there requirements that "domestic partners" be same-sex or even in a sexual relationship?

I've never understood why two sisters, for example, who share a household can't get the same "family" benefits as two unrelated people.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 09:37 AM (ZKzrr)

336 It certainly isn't casting a vote for the candidate trying, you know, to remove Barry from the WHite House.

That's true. It's not voting for either candidate. Shocking that when presented with 3 choices (A, B, Neither) some people will pick 'Neither.'

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 09:37 AM (8y9MW)

337 A friend gave me a bottle of Angel's Envy bourbon for Christmas (Yeah, I'm Jewish, but I won't refuse a gift of booze).

Obscenely expensive, but damn, it is good!


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at March 15, 2012 09:31 AM (nEUpB)

You're drinking already!? Wait....that's not a bad idea.

Posted by: Tami at March 15, 2012 09:38 AM (X6akg)

338 Back when the nation knew what the hell they were doing that was an
unofficial requirement. That is the primary reason New Mexican statehood
was delayed for so long.


Wow. Massive ignorance on display. New Mexico was, according to its own constitution and laws, a bilingual state upon admission to the Union and through the 1940s.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2012 09:38 AM (+zL0z)

339 vic

i've really been enjoying the "jefferson straight rye whiskey"

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 09:38 AM (Ho2rs)

340 307 I was told NM was tri cultural? what happened?

Posted by: Pecos, still yearning for Perry at March 15, 2012 09:39 AM (2Gb0y)

341 Donde esta la playa nudia? Me gusta la playa nudia. Me gusta helado enla piel.
Viva Rubio! He could get behind me, IIYAAYAFAKDFUAKJU.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 15, 2012 09:39 AM (Ec6wH)

342 @325 Fantasy, West is not what Romneys team want. They want a conservative fire starter but not someone who's in your face like West (and i'm not knocking West, I love him, just saying what Romney's team wants). Rubio fits the mold of what they're looking for but he's 100% digging his heels to stay in the Senate for now and for good reason he's the most popular statewide figure in the state

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:39 AM (yAor6)

343 hi author!!! where have you been?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 09:40 AM (Ho2rs)

344 @332 i'm a moderate Liberterian Republican, Santorum has basically declared war on my wing of the party, and he rubs me the wrong way.I will fight tooth and nail for him not to be the nominee. However because Obama is such a failure this ONE time I will vote for him if he is the nominee. Obama is the only man in the world who would make me vote for Ricky.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:41 AM (yAor6)

345
Gman,

You should take a break for a bit and go lick the smooth spot where your manhood was. Because she totally clipped your balls at 150 and Radish played hackysack with em a few posts later. Now you're just being an asshole for assholism's sake.

I am one myself . We can recognize our own.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 15, 2012 09:41 AM (EgUGc)

346 >>Vic and Heather don't want me complaining about Ricky? that just makes me want to keep on doing it!

Can you make it interesting for a change? Half of you are copy-pasting Dan Savage, the other half are copy-pasting OWS. Nineteen times a day, for the past six months.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 09:41 AM (ZKzrr)

347 Well said, Matt. I think people should stop waiting around for the political savior and perfect candidate (There isn't one) and vote for whichever man gets on the ticket. I think Ron Paul is a weirdo in so many ways; I'd still vote for him to stop Obama from getting in. Do they want Obama to go full steam ahead and appoint more SC justices?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 15, 2012 09:42 AM (/bVc5)

348 315 Instead of fighting over Pres. nominees, what about VP picks. Who could you get behind?
Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 09:33 AM (oKsWl)


Sarah Palin.

IYKIM

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:42 AM (niZvt)

349 #343 having too much fun at the facebook group, everyone's nicer there; seeing that curious blended in w/ some new commenters here as well. bummer

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:42 AM (yAor6)

350 New Mexico is a bilingual state. Our state constitution was written in
English and Spanish, we conduct business in English and Spanish, and our
ballots are printed in English and Spanish.



Should we get kicked out of the union?
-------
No, of course not. Since the hispanos (imagine italics) are no longer the majority hispanic (read without italics) population, it does make the state a prime candidate for incorporation into the Republica de Aztlan (imagine italics and other stuff).


Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 09:43 AM (eEfYn)

351 How about this for an idea:

Romney gets Santorum to drop the Presidential candidate nonsense in return for offering Santorum the VP slot?

He at once unifies the party and satisfies the complainers that say he doesn't kiss hard right ass enough.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:43 AM (niZvt)

352 @338

Try reading what you are replying to, Gabby.

Posted by: Gerry at March 15, 2012 09:43 AM (+7Trq)

353 Should we get kicked out of the union?
Posted by: Embittered Redleg at March 15, 2012 09:31 AM (CuPwN)
__________

As far as I'm concerned, it seems like a smart move for the long term. But, in real life, the north east states, and west coast states, are so much farther gone in most important ways that I'd be cutting my nose to spite my face if I advocated it. There are other states that need to be kicked out first.
Actually, I can see some virtue in the idea of dividing up the US into a few different regions and all going our own ways - just maintaining a trade military alliance.

Posted by: Reactionary at March 15, 2012 09:44 AM (xUM1Q)

354 One main thing that worries me about Mitt is when he said he wouldn't say anything fiery against Odogma ONLY to fire up the base.

That is why I hated McCain. He never told the truth about BO. He just kissed his ass.

Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 09:44 AM (oKsWl)

355 I'm still trying to get excited for Mr. Inevitability getting in the White House and talking about his fiscally conservative, economy-reviving plans like indexing minimum wage to inflation and continuing his record of appointing liberal justices who are still going to vote left, just not as slobberingly left.

I'm also giddy with anticipation in seeing how he's going to use his masterful skills in dealing with a hostile press who's going to talk about Romenycare every time they bring up the subject of Obamacare. It's going to be an Epic Romney Smackdown, I know it!

But at least he's not trying to put a chastity belt on you, so that's why he's Electable!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 15, 2012 09:44 AM (rX1N2)

356 idiota is about right

Posted by: runner at March 15, 2012 09:44 AM (WR5xI)

357 As far as the one issue thing- For me your one issue with
Santorum seems to be that you hate SoCons not gay marraige specifically.


Well, that's nice, but also inaccurate. My issue with Santorum is that he's a big government, big spending, go-along-to-get-along Republican who wants to impose via federal law his flawed, anti-freedom morality on the country.

Please note: only the last bit involves social conservatism. I don't have "one issue with Santorum," I have several. Which I have written about almost exclusively. I almost never write about Santorum's stupid social ideas---for example, attempting to outlaw porn, First Amendment be damned.

Instead, I write a lot about his unapologetically pro-big government behavior while in Congress. For that, I am routinely accused of being a "single issue" blogger (that issue being, oddly, gay marriage).


Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2012 09:44 AM (+zL0z)

358 @351 hey! hey! hey! don't go screwing up my VP predcition now

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:45 AM (yAor6)

359 239
#224 Don't you know, veterans and military families are victims. They
won't be portrayed as babykillers by this crowd, they know better than
that. Much better to portray them as victims of Bushitler's madness,
needing billions of dollars in psychiatric care and housing subsidies
and other expensive crap that they can continue bleeding the taxpayers
for. They are much more sophisticated than the '60s and '70s radicals
were.
--

No, not "by this crowd". Why insert that, as if a correction?

"They are much more sophisticated than the '60s and '70s radicals
were."
"They" are the '60s and '70s radicals, the same Underground Weathermen all grown up, don't you know? As for much more sophistication, it certainly isn't represented by the American public. If anything, the opposite is playing out as Ft. Hood proved, and as this disarming of our troops illustrates.

"needing billions of dollars in psychiatric care and housing subsidies
and other expensive crap that they can continue bleeding the taxpayers
for."

Whoa, bossy. First, it is wrong to alter terms of contract without consent from all involved. The President (Bush) ordered our troops to Afghanistan and Iraq, and ordered their compliance to neoconservative nation building suicidal tactics known as the "Karzai" Rules of Engagement. Bush and subsequently Obama have redeployed our troops too many times with more re-deployments yet to come in this war determined by the "best" neoconservative intellectuals to be necessarily prolonged for a century, at least. The suicidal ratio is higher than ever. So long as taxpayers and Congress sign onto declared wars, we do owe our troopers their health benefits as promised when they enlisted.

Where do you come off with referencing veterans' contracted benefits as "expensive crap that they can continue bleeding the taxpayers for"? Obama has already prepared to cut what benefits our veterans were promised on enlistment. That is no surprise, particularly given Obama's first presidential act to destroy contract law, not to mention his aversion to recognizing our troops as valuable humans.

If you're criticizing the promises for "free" health care, true enough. "Promise them anything; just get their votes," Mitt Romney proved he can't manage numbers in setting his own state up for bankruptcy, still in denial based upon the "popularity" of free lunch amongst his former constituents. (Which regular poster here was bragging about being "smart" taking advantage of Obama's cash for clunkers?) Romney "improved" opportunism for fraud, just as Paulson did to the world, ruining the economy. Now, who's so much more sophisticated today; Republican voting taxpayer moms, dads and professionals?




Posted by: maverick muse at March 15, 2012 09:45 AM (lpWVn)

360 "Not looking to persuade anyone, but remember, Obama needed some
backstabbing Republicans, party-switching dickwads, and kickback-taking
senators to pass Obamacare and that was after he lost his 60 seat senate
majority."

Actually not true. The only way it passed was for the House to pass the Senate version that had used all 60 of the Dem Senators to pass it. They even wheeled in Byrd to vote for it, and Mass had a temporary Senator in there to make sure the Kennedy Seat voted for it. All Republicans voted against it, all of them.

When Brown won, it became impossible to make any changes to what was in the Senate bill, so the House strong armed the Dem members to vote for it. Many of them paid the ultimate price for that vote, losing in the next election. The Senate never again took up the legislation.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 09:45 AM (nMiwq)

361 He at once unifies the party and satisfies the complainers that say he doesn't kiss hard right ass enough.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:43 AM (niZvt)

Hey, I had my hard ass kissed last night. Course, I sat on a spoon of peanut butter, and my dog does like peanut butter.

Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 09:45 AM (oKsWl)

362 unapologetically pro-big government behavior




Yeah, that's why I'm not into Mitt either.

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 09:46 AM (P6QsQ)

363 @354 I'd agree with those worries. I will say McCain struck me as a guy who just wanted the nomination. Romney strikes me as a guy who wants the White House

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:46 AM (yAor6)

364 None of the Republican nominees are all that great however, I'd vote for rat feces over Barry.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 15, 2012 09:46 AM (1Jaio)

365 Hey, I had my hard ass kissed last night. Course, I sat on a spoon of peanut butter, and my dog does like peanut butter.
Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 09:45 AM (oKsWl)


BUNK!

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:48 AM (niZvt)

366 Did some research. Angel's Envy is done by the same master distiller that did Woodford Reserve. (I wonder if that means no more Woodford?)

I found a web site that had both it and Jim Beam, the Jim Beam at the same price I get it for at Costco in Myrtle Beach for comparison.

A 750 ml bottle was $70. But the closest place to me that has it is in FL.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 09:48 AM (YdQQY)

367 Dave in Fla, you keep hitting it out of the park, +100

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:48 AM (yAor6)

368 >>>i'm a moderate Liberterian Republican<<<

That's fair enough but when so many of your posts are socks of "Pope Ricky" you come off sounding like an anti-Catholic with a sex obsession.


To me Santorum is the least objectionable candidate left standing and Mitt is a liberal who would be just as comfortable as a Dem if they allowed Mormons to join. Like you, I will vote for Dagny's "feces covered crack whore" over Obama.

Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 09:48 AM (vrYVY)

369 @364 I like to call them the 3 dufuses we gotta pick from and that nutty old man

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:49 AM (yAor6)

370 Romney strikes me as a guy who wants the White House

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:46 AM (yAor6)

Okay, so there are two things that worry me about Mitt. He has always wanted the WH. I wanted a nominee that wanted to SAVE this Country, fuck the House that comes with it.

Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 09:49 AM (oKsWl)

371 Basically Santorum wants Puerto Rico to go all for Romney, eh? Case of foot-in-mouth syndrome.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 09:49 AM (et2m1)

372 GMan, Two thoughts to consider.

First, the current situation, or status quo, as bad as it is, is not an option. After the election, should he win, Obama would be untethered and unfettered by the need to get reelected. My imagination is not dark enough to conjure up what a second term would bring.

Second, I suspect Dagny is every bit as disappointed as you. But disappointment is not a plan. Make a plan, and then compare the likely results of your plan to what ObamaII would bring.



Posted by: USA at March 15, 2012 09:49 AM (6Cjut)

373 Hey momma...

Was that smooth peanut butter, or Crunchy For Your Added Pleasure?

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:49 AM (niZvt)

374 Yesterday, Pennsylvania passed a voter ID law.

From the Philadelphia Inquirer (Oct. 10, 2011):


Today, photo IDs are required to board an airplane, cash a check, or
buy allergy medicine over the counter. Voting is more important than
these activities. Voters understand this. A recent Rasmussen poll found
75 percent of likely U.S. voters back requiring photo IDs at the polls.

Refuting opponents' arguments, the Universities of Delaware and
Nebraska found voter ID laws had no effect on turnout in federal
elections from 2000 to 2006, including across racial, ethnic, and
socio-economic lines.

After Georgia's law, among the nation's strictest, took effect in
2008, there was a record turnout in the presidential primary. In the
2008 general election, Georgia had its largest turnout ever. The African
American vote increased 5 percent.

A Pennsylvania Department of State analysis shows 99 percent of
eligible voters currently have acceptable photo IDs, and proposals under
discussion will likely expand the list of photo IDs that can be used.
PennDot will supply a free ID for those who need one, so the greatest
possible cost to taxpayers is slightly more than $1 million, a small
price to ensure the validity of each vote.

Some argue this is a solution without a problem, but in 2009, an FBI
investigation led to forgery and election-fraud charges against seven
Pittsburgh-area ACORN workers; in 2008, a Philadelphia official
submitted more than 8,000 fraudulent ACORN-collected voter-registration
forms.

Posted by: Charles Ponzi at March 15, 2012 09:49 AM (e8kgV)

375 Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 09:48 AM (vrYVY)
I'm not anti-catholic though I have my criticisms of the catholic church. Im merely having fun w/ Santorums image

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:50 AM (yAor6)

376 Romney strikes me as a guy who wants the White House

And will strengthen this country because he's more patriotic as hell when compared to Obama.

Obama just wants to use the presidential powers to destroy this country.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 09:50 AM (et2m1)

377 338
Gabriel
Check the population levels and demographics of New Mexico in relation to the granting of statehood compared to other territories. Or go read a history book. (That is once you get done critiquing the master breeder Santorum.)

I was talking about the dominant language group not the state constitution or even the languages commonly spoken in the territory.



Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 09:50 AM (eEfYn)

378 @ 370 this is politics, saving the country is only a benefit for them in the History Books. Politicians want power and prestigue.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:51 AM (yAor6)

379 Romney may be president by virtue of Zero's vacuum sucking him into the office. But Romney sucks only about 5 inches of mercury less than Zero. I think he needs his ass kicked up to nose level, so he can smell himself like we smell him.

Posted by: maddogg at March 15, 2012 09:51 AM (OlN4e)

380 Was that smooth peanut butter, or Crunchy For Your Added Pleasure?

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:49 AM (niZvt)

One kind on each cheek. I was just gathering a little polling data.

Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 09:51 AM (oKsWl)

381 I really miss DOOM in the morning. Le sigh.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2012 09:52 AM (+zL0z)

382 Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2012 09:44 AM (+zL0z)

Damn, I read a Gabe comment. And how is Romney materially different from all of those criticisms you levelled at Santorum? At best they're even, but Santorum doesn't have the RomneyCare achilles heel.

So since they're inarguably dead even on the issues you have issues with Santorum on, what other issue could you possibly have to differentiate the two?

(This is why you're unreadable.)

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 15, 2012 09:52 AM (rX1N2)

383 apple stock is up up up!!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 15, 2012 09:52 AM (Ho2rs)

384 Honestly, just what do people want Romney to do to "prove" how conservative he is?

He's already singing My Country Tis of Thee everywhere he goes - isn't that horrid enough?

He is clearly within the mainstream of American politics; Obama is clearly a radical Socialist that means to perpetrate everything all of us ever feared could happen to America.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:52 AM (niZvt)

385 Hell, Puerto Rico shouldn't gain statehood, period.

Or at least not unless some other state drops out to make room. If Texas or Alaska seceeds I may move there.

Besides I don't want to fire the Manifest Destiny train back up. It starts with Puerto Rico but in 15 years we'll be voting on whether or not to make Turkey a state.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 09:53 AM (TULs6)

386 For some people, it really will not make a difference if they vote for the top of the ticket. For instance, if you live in a deep red state that always, always goes (R), deciding not to fill out that top spot isn't going to matter.

Same for if you live in a deep blue state that always, always goes (D) no matter what.

For everywhere else, yeah - it matters a lot.

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 09:54 AM (P6QsQ)

387 @384 you need to join me in realizing he could say Fuck You directly to Obamas face and still folks will say hes not good enough

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:54 AM (yAor6)

388 >>>outlaw porn, First Amendment be damned<<<


I can only imagine the reactions of the founders if they were to know that the First Amendment would be seen as the right to produce porn.




Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 09:54 AM (vrYVY)

389 @385 Puerto Rico is a US territory, Turkey ain't

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:55 AM (yAor6)

390 I like Santorum but dread his becoming the nominee. The probability of the guy self destructing during the general election campaign seems north of 75%. Four more years of the SCOAMF and the U.S.A. is finished.

Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at March 15, 2012 09:55 AM (64S5N)

391 Bruce Springsteen sideways with a rusty pineapple.

Rusty is a great adjective but how does it apply to pineapples?

Posted by: DaveA at March 15, 2012 09:55 AM (Vc/m8)

392 @388 considering they loved themselves some sex w/ women they weren't married to i'd love to see what they had to say

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:56 AM (yAor6)

393 That Chrissie Matthews link in the sidebar is incredible. But Rush should be fired?

Posted by: nickless at March 15, 2012 09:56 AM (X7aC8)

394 @390 the man can't even win his fellow catholics in these primaries

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:56 AM (yAor6)

395 Honestly, just what do people want Romney to do to "prove" how conservative he is?

Repudiate RomneyCare and his statement that "Mandates are fundamentally conservative?" Just off the top of my head.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 09:56 AM (8y9MW)

396 >>>>pineapples




I can never find that freaking thing when I watch Psych. Ugh.

Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 09:56 AM (oKsWl)

397 388 >>>outlaw porn, First Amendment be damned

I can only imagine the reactions of the founders if they were to know that the First Amendment would be seen as the right to produce porn.




Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 09:54 AM (vrYVY)


It's all about Freedom of Expression. Now pass me the KY, will ya?

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:56 AM (niZvt)

398 I say yes, make PR a State, but only if we divide TX into separate States with the same population. IOW, divide TX into 8 States.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 09:57 AM (YdQQY)

399 370, that was Perry.

Posted by: Pecos, still yearning for Perry at March 15, 2012 09:57 AM (2Gb0y)

400 From the SB: The MSM and Hollywood are going to double down on Obama.

Come November, I will drink their tears with a twist of lemon.

Posted by: toby928© at March 15, 2012 09:57 AM (GTbGH)

401 SWEET JEEBUS.

Just heard on the radio that Rev. Wright is planning a "March on Israel" and encouraging neighboring Arab countries to cross over Israel's borders to "end Israeli occupation."

The article is supposed to be posted on The Blaze.

Wonder if Barry will join him?

*heads to The Blaze*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 15, 2012 09:57 AM (UOM48)

402 I think if the Founding Fathers saw modern Internet Porn for the first time, the first thing they would do would be to spend about a week alone, locked in their room, IYKWIM.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:58 AM (niZvt)

403 @402 +1

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:58 AM (yAor6)

404 "If Texas or Alaska seceeds I may move there."



Alaska, there about as bad as Puerto Rico in their dependence on the federal government. Once they lose the pipeline they're going to have a hard time justifying their statehood themselves.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 09:58 AM (GZitp)

405 @404 plus better weather in Texas

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 09:59 AM (yAor6)

406 Why didn’t Maryland’s $771 million in stimulus outlays for transit
infrastructure have a bigger impact on the localeconomy? Partly because
Gov. MartinO’Malley cut his own infrastructure budget more than enough
to offset gains from the stimulus. Maryland’s Transportation
TrustFundgenerally pays for highway repairs by collecting a special
gas tax and other user fees. After the stimulus money was made
available, O’Malley raided the trust fund, diverting $861 million during
the next three years to help balance the statebudget, according to
information provided by Maryland’s Department of Legislative Services.
Even with the stimulus, state spending on transit infrastructure has
seen a net decrease of $90 million since 2009.

Posted by: John Maynard Keynes at March 15, 2012 09:59 AM (e8kgV)

407 but only if we divide TX into separate States with the same population. IOW, divide TX into 8 States.

F that noise. We already gave away New Mexico and roughly half of Colorado. You can take the rest of my state from my cold, dead hands.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 09:59 AM (8y9MW)

408 Come November, I will drink their tears with a twist of lemon.
Posted by: toby928© at March 15, 2012 09:57 AM (GTbGH)



If the GOP fucks this up and blows it come November, I will feel eternally cheated out of seeing the MSM's Sweet, Sweet Tears of Despair...

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:59 AM (niZvt)

409 "Wonder if Barry will join him?"

Honestly, when you hear "I got your back" is your first reaction the literal meaning or the sarcastic, go ahead, sucker, meaning?

Posted by: USA at March 15, 2012 10:00 AM (6Cjut)

410 385
Hell, Puerto Rico shouldn't gain statehood, period.



Or at least not unless some other state drops out to make room. If Texas or Alaska seceeds I may move there.

People are already seceding on an individual level. I'm planning my escape from the PDRI - (People's Democratic Republic of Illinois). Puerto Rico seems to be a model for Illinois.
The US is fragmenting and I think that's pretty much OK with Obama. Perhaps that was the idea all along, hmmm?

Posted by: tubal at March 15, 2012 10:00 AM (BoE3Z)

411 Actually not true. The only way it passed was for the House to pass the Senate version that had used all 60 of the Dem Senators to pass it.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 09:45 AM (nMiwq)


Huh. I was thinking that the backstabbers had voted to let this piece of shit out of debate so they could go home for Christmas.

Flossin'? Where do I get Munson?

Posted by: Lars Groteballen at March 15, 2012 10:00 AM (X7Mcs)

412 Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 09:52 AM (niZvt)

He can't "prove" it until he actually governs that way. Sadly he has no conservative record from his one time in office.

We're left to judge him on what he says, which seems to blow with the wind AND have little value.

If the mainstream of American politics is that Mandates Are acceptable, then all this gnashing of teeth is pointless because we're boned.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 15, 2012 10:00 AM (rX1N2)

413
Is there any news about the SCOTUS deliberations that are ongoing? Can't find shit on it, it's as if the memory hole struck again.

A decision that Ocare is not Constitutional would be a blessing for Romney, to be sure. And I hope that outcome transpires.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 15, 2012 10:01 AM (SAMxH)

414 Puerto Rico is a US territory, Turkey ain't

Yet.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 10:01 AM (TULs6)

415 A quick reminder for all Morons as we tear into various candidates:

Showing Candidate A is an idiot does not suffice to show that Candidate B is not an idiot.

Corollary: If any of these guys weren't idiots, they'd be doing something useful with their lives.

That's our blessing and curse. Back to our regularly scheduled nard-kicking contests, just a little perspective...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, in Cylon hell at March 15, 2012 10:01 AM (GBXon)

416 Arthur, the people most likely to be against Santorum are those Catholics who adhere to the fewest of the Church's teaching. He represents everything they hate and want changed about the Church.

In other words- they see him as Pope Ricky.

Posted by: kdny at March 15, 2012 10:01 AM (vrYVY)

417 Scientists have for the first time sent a message using a beam of
neutrinos, through 240 meters of solid stone. The team's not telling us
how long the message - which said, simply, 'Neutrino', took to arrive.
"Using neutrinos, it would be possible to communicate between any two
points on Earth without using satellites or cables," says Dan Stancil,
professor of electrical and computer engineering at North Carolina State
University.

Posted by: Alexander Graham Bell at March 15, 2012 10:01 AM (e8kgV)

418 A decision that Ocare is not Constitutional would be a blessing for Romney, to be sure.




A decision that Obamacare is unconstitutional would be a blessing, period.

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 10:02 AM (P6QsQ)

419 Puerto Ricans have consistently votes for the status quo or 'other!' when given a chance. They don't seem to want statehood or independence. So, why do Dem and Pub politicians keep bringing it up?

My guess: Hispandering!

Next week: Santorum visits American Samoa to review the life work of Margaret Meade.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 10:03 AM (eEfYn)

420 Jane D'oh at March 15, 2012 09:57 AM

St Pancake 2: Electric Boogaloo.

I wish.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 15, 2012 10:03 AM (kaOJx)

421 It doesn't exactly strike me as 'north atlantic' either.

I know better, I've seen to many parodies come true5 years later to ever rule anything out.

Given anlimitless amount of power, anything the government can do, it will do, sooner or later. No matter how preposterous.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 10:03 AM (TULs6)

422
A decision that Ocare is not Constitutional would be a blessing for Romney, to be sure. And I hope that outcome transpires.


Posted by: irongrampa at March 15, 2012 10:01 AM (SAMxH)


If you're talking about Ocare before the SCOTUS, I think they are to hear arguments the 24-26 of this month.

Posted by: Tami at March 15, 2012 10:04 AM (X6akg)

423 @416 you mean they're embarassed by him? precisely what I thought myself

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at March 15, 2012 10:05 AM (yAor6)

424 <<Rusty is a great adjective but how does it apply to pineapples?>>

It works if it's a pineapple grenade.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 15, 2012 10:05 AM (tf9Ne)

425 #376 mama winger , unfortunately the perception of the total popular vote is more important than ever these days. So every vote is important when trying to sway the Country one way or the other.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at March 15, 2012 10:05 AM (jTVGC)

426 Beck was talking about new farming regulations that Cass put into place.

Anyone hear this?

I caught the teaser before the break, but didn't hear him explain it in depth.

Posted by: momma at March 15, 2012 10:06 AM (oKsWl)

427 I mean you can say "But Turkey isn't even a territory!" but 5 years ago you would have said "But the ATF wants to get rid of the guns, not arm the cartels with them!"

And at that time, it would have sounded sensible and probably won the argument. Which is why, ultimately, it was wrong.

Our government is quite crazy. Expecting rational behavior from crazy people is itself somewhat crazy.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 10:06 AM (TULs6)

428 "417
Scientists have for the first time sent a message using a beam of

neutrinos, through 240 meters of solid stone."

And it probably started a flame war.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 10:06 AM (GZitp)

429 Okay, all the candidates are terrible. Got it. They're the worst ever and no one should vote for them.

I just happen to think any of them would be way better than Obama, but that's apparently just me.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 15, 2012 10:06 AM (i0App)

430 It also escaped Media Matters’ notice that an advertisement for the left-leaning New York Times aired during Limbaugh’s Tuesday program. A recording of Limbaugh’s commercial break on Tuesday from 12:55 p.m. EDT to 12:58 p.m. EDT on WABC shows that ads were aired for the non-prescription female hormone balancer Amberen, a food-stamp public service announcement from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, a spot for WABC’s other programming and one for The New York Times.

Posted by: Media Migraines at March 15, 2012 10:07 AM (e8kgV)

431 Partly because
Gov. MartinO’Malley cut his own infrastructure budget more than enough
to offset gains from the stimulus.


Well, duh. The "Stimulus" was every and always just a way to launder money to the blue states government workers unions. If anything tangible comes from it, it's just dumb luck.

Fungible money, it's what's for breakfast.

Posted by: toby928© at March 15, 2012 10:07 AM (GTbGH)

432 I'm all for Santorum, for in him lies the hope of a brokered convention. I want Newt to go work California, denying those delegates to Mittens will put us into a floor fight.

Posted by: Jean at March 15, 2012 10:08 AM (WkuV6)

433 On Thursday, President Obama signed H.R. 347, a bill that could drastically limit the ability of Americans to assemble and protest. It is now a federal offense to assemble at many political events, essentially criminalizing protesting.

Under the new law, anyone who enters Secret Service protected property and “engages in disorderly or disruptive conduct” or “impede or disrupt the orderly conduct of Government business or official functions” can be arrested.

Posted by: Yvette Carnell at March 15, 2012 10:09 AM (e8kgV)

434
430

"the left-leaning New York Times......."

I relish unintentional humor.

Posted by: tubal at March 15, 2012 10:09 AM (BoE3Z)

435 The President (Bush) ordered our troops to Afghanistan and Iraq, and
ordered their compliance to neoconservative nation building suicidal
tactics known as the "Karzai" Rules of Engagement.
--

Given that the Afghan/Iraqi wars had no final strategy, of course the tactics would be screwed. But there was a strategy, to disillusion Americans and to foment so much hatred as to drive us crazy as willing pawns.

The very Muslim nations that accommodated "Western" civilization,
participating in assimilating non-religious culture, are those which the
US with allies have aided the resurgence of Islamic fundamentalism to
permeate.

A natural human response after doing all the "good" possible is to curse a failure for its lack of success.

Vic representing the respected voice of reason, it is awful to realize how conveniently the "final solution" gains endorsement, genocide to Muslim "cockroaches".

Tragedy for all, as if to endorse the "right" sort of genocide won't be grounds used against us, good intentions paving the road to our own hell.

http://tinyurl.com/7uk37

Posted by: maverick muse at March 15, 2012 10:09 AM (lpWVn)

436 Repudiate RomneyCare and his statement that "Mandates are fundamentally conservative?" Just off the top of my head.

***

But Allen, mandates are conservative, so long as you do them at the state level. Or float them as an idea in your 2007 campaign and in 2009 to Obama.

Mitt is conservatism. If anything appears unconservative about him, it's obviously just misunderstood.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 15, 2012 10:09 AM (/NCSB)

Posted by: Tami at March 15, 2012 10:10 AM (X6akg)

438 Good Lord....check your tags before posting. Geez.....

Posted by: Tami at March 15, 2012 10:10 AM (X6akg)

439 Scientists have for the first time sent a message using a beam of neutrinos, through 240 meters of solid stone.

Question: They "sent" the message. Do they have any idea how torecieve it?

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 10:10 AM (TULs6)

440 "I'm all for Santorum, for in him lies the hope of a brokered convention. "

A brokered convention will assure the re election of Barak Obama.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 15, 2012 10:11 AM (kaOJx)

441 I'm feeling very cross today...

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 10:11 AM (niZvt)

442

Mighty Casey done struck out....

Posted by: MrScribbler at March 15, 2012 10:11 AM (SLZUA)

443 Who broke the blog again?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 15, 2012 10:11 AM (UOM48)

444 Scientists have for the first time sent a message using a beam of neutrinos, through 240 meters of solid stone. Janeane Garofalo put on headphones? Big deal.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 15, 2012 10:11 AM (HethX)

445 According to the Washington Post, the Obama White House invited 362
people to its state dinner for the United Kingdom. One familiar face
will be gracing the red carpet: Andrew Sullivan of The Daily Beast. For
those who don’t remember, Andrew Sullivan is the once-conservative
columnist who shifted dramatically to the left over the past few years –
and reserved a special hatred in his heart for Sarah Palin and her
special needs son Trig.

Posted by: Excitable Andy Watch at March 15, 2012 10:12 AM (e8kgV)

446 Wait, strike that!

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 15, 2012 10:12 AM (/NCSB)

447 >Maybe if you want votes like mine (not that mine
will likely matter), you shouldn't put up a fucking democrat that calls
himself a republican.


Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 08:30 AM (sxq57)


it's people like you that might give us 4 more years of Obama. But hey, at least you'll have your integrity, and that's really all that matters, right?

Posted by: Jones in CO at March 15, 2012 10:12 AM (8sCoq)

448 Anyupdates on that KC boy who was set on fire awhile back?

Posted by: 66chevelle at March 15, 2012 10:12 AM (QjSgY)

449 mama winger , unfortunately the perception of the total popular vote is more important than ever these days.


If you are talking about defeating Obama, and getting him out of office, the popular vote or the perception thereof does not matter. It's electoral votes that will determine if Obama leaves the White House. Electoral votes are awarded on state -by state winners.

If you are talking about whether or not someone is perceived to have a mandate for going forward on their policies, then the perception of popular vote comes into play.

But winning or losing the White House? It's which states go which way.

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 10:13 AM (P6QsQ)

450 My wife is Puerto Rican so I support Puerto Rico gaining statehood. They contribute more men to the United States military per capita than any US state. So who is more patriotic? Those silly Puerto Ricans that end up knowing English well in the US Military or a bunch of rednecks from the South? The south also contributes alot of men capita wise when compared to blue states.

This whole "English has to be the main language" is dumb. But good thing Santorum ain't that smart, people. He just walks into huge bear traps that are pretty obvious on the ground. So not only the Puerto Rican governor is advocating for Romney, Santorum just puts icing on the cake for Romney to have.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:13 AM (a+5ST)

451 Scientists have for the first time sent a message using a beam of
neutrinos, through 240 meters of solid stone.


I'll bet that means that soon, the Defense Department will be able to hack into computers and do all sorts of mischief with them from a remote location, be they online or not.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 10:13 AM (niZvt)

452 438
Good Lord....check your tags before posting. Geez.....


Posted by: Tami at March 15, 2012 10:10 AM (X6akg)


Well, shit. Sorry, Miss Tami. ......(slinks off).

Posted by: tubal at March 15, 2012 10:14 AM (BoE3Z)

453 TAVIS SMILEY (44:52): And so now the President is playing this Super PAC game. So when you suggest that first we win, and then
we change it, suggests to me that you believe in your heart that once
Obama wins he’s going to be serious about campaign finance reform.

But
now, he’s one of the worst hypocrites respectfully, if I can say that,
one of the worst hypocrites in the country is he now on campaign finance
reform and you think that once he wins he’s going to get serious about
changing the system that he just benefited from?

Posted by: Campaign Finance Watch at March 15, 2012 10:14 AM (e8kgV)

454 Andrew Sullivan is the once-conservative columnist who shifted dramatically to the left over the past few years – and reserved a special hatred in his heart for Sarah Palin and her special needs son Trig.

And her vagina.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:14 AM (a+5ST)

455 443 Who broke the blog again?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 15, 2012 10:11 AM (UOM4


Wasn't someone blaming ex-moron B-lazer last night?

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 10:15 AM (niZvt)

456
Why is a Democrat posting on Ace of Spades?

Posted by: Sad Dad at March 15, 2012 10:15 AM (wWZWw)

457 Well, shit. Sorry, Miss Tami. ......(slinks off).


Posted by: tubal at March 15, 2012 10:14 AM (BoE3Z)


It wasn't you...it was the poster before you.

Posted by: Tami at March 15, 2012 10:15 AM (X6akg)

458 Admin, could you do us a favor, please? If StuckOnStupid posts an update, could you mention it in the body of the post it's on?

Alternatively, can anyone tell me how to find SOS's comments besides putting his name in the "find" box and then going through all the comments on recent threads?

Hoping his silence means nothing to report. The alternative isn't a pleasant thought.

Posted by: creeper at March 15, 2012 10:15 AM (gre5a)

459 @456 For us to make fun of? *shrugs*

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:15 AM (a+5ST)

460 There's an Admin??

Posted by: toby928© at March 15, 2012 10:17 AM (GTbGH)

461 And her vagina.
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:14 AM (a+5ST)


So that statue of the vagina put up at Wasilla High School (see Hotair) was paid for by Sullivan, then?

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 10:17 AM (niZvt)

462 Gman don't take it to heart.
I made the mistake of stating that Rush put his foot in his mouth and was stupid for saying slut on National radio and that he should've known better and that it would hurt rather than help the conservative cause.
I was bombarded with insults from Dagny and soothsayer, who both seemed to think I was an Obama lover, a troll , a stupid fucking idiot, wanted the left to walk all over me, tear me a new asshole and that I'd no doubt be saying please and thank you when they come to take my guns etc etc.
It's par for the course, around here lately, to be personally attacked by some people if you happen to disagree with someone else's opinion or how someone chooses to make their argument.
The fact that some people on this blog can't make rational arguments without resorting to name calling is somewhat disturbing, since you expect stuff like that from liberals but not conservatives.
That being said, can't say you're wrong for fighting fire with fire I guess, but, in reality it's not productive. So?
Water off the back. Just ignore the people who resort to name calling at the drop of a hat and try to make your points with the people that are willing to debate honestly and without name calling.
And above all, bide your time, and blindside the person that insulted you by waiting for the right time to stick it to em.

Posted by: Some guy you don't know in Wisconsin at March 15, 2012 10:17 AM (iwTh6)

463 creeper, SOS didn't post an update yesterday.

Posted by: Tami at March 15, 2012 10:17 AM (X6akg)

464 @460 Yes but they're morons like the rest of us

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:17 AM (a+5ST)

465 Am I the only one that thinks SoS saga sounds a little invented? Not that I care, he seems to be a good story teller.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 10:18 AM (GZitp)

466 It wasn't you...it was the poster before you.



Posted by: Tami at March 15, 2012 10:15 AM (X6akg)

Oh, nevermind.

Posted by: Roseanne Roseannadanna at March 15, 2012 10:18 AM (BoE3Z)

467 I want to punch that pic of Karzai on Drudge. What a corrupt douche.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 15, 2012 10:18 AM (UOM48)

468 A brokered convention will assure the re election of Barak Obama.

Disagree completely. Tricky. The event will draw the media in, focus attention on the issues (unlike the endless debates), and re-ignite the campaign against Obama. The current process (and candidates) has killed our enthusiasm, need to light the candle.

What it does do, is give us a chance of keeping Nixon II (Mittens) out of the WhiteHouse.

Posted by: Jean at March 15, 2012 10:19 AM (WkuV6)

469 but to be a state in the United States...

you have to pay federal income tax. I'm sure they'll get right on that.

Posted by: t-bird at March 15, 2012 10:20 AM (FcR7P)

470 @468 Is keeping "Nixon II" a good thing or bad thing? I view it as a good thing because Nixon did win us the Vietnam war. Any future "Nixons" won't do the same crap he did with Watergate anyways.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:20 AM (a+5ST)

471 467 I want to punch that pic of Karzai on Drudge. What a corrupt douche.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 15, 2012 10:18 AM (UOM4


We have the bastard under our guard, surrounded by special forces touting machine guns. Quite honestly, ain't it time one of his keepers had a sudden, tragically uncontrollable fit of hiccups that left a bloody Karzai stain on the well that looks remarkably like the Virgin Mary or something?

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 10:21 AM (niZvt)

472 450
OK? Check out these interesting facts.

Federated State of Micrnoesia:
In 2008, the country had more Army recruits per capita than any U.S.
state. It also has more casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan, per capita. The
islands have lost nine soldiers in the wars out of a population of 107,000
— a rate five times the U.S. national average. (Only American Samoa has
lost more soldiers, per capita, among U.S. territories.)

.
So by some quirk of logic these non-Americans must be more patriotic than PR's, southern rednecks, and, remarkably, the San Fran differently preferenced.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 10:21 AM (eEfYn)

473 well = wall, damnit

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 10:21 AM (niZvt)

474
One more thing before I go,there allegedly is a suit by the R's concerning the recess appointment made by Obama, I recall reading a short blurb somewhere, but nothing subsequent. Any thing on that?

Posted by: irongrampa at March 15, 2012 10:21 AM (SAMxH)

475 @450

Puerto Rico by any measure is a parasite state, with a wholly corrupt government and people at all levels.

Like DC, it should NEVER be allowed statehood and should lose it's commonwealth status.

About the only thing positive I can say about Puerto Rico is it has beautiful beaches and women, that is all.

Posted by: McLovin at March 15, 2012 10:21 AM (j0IcY)

476 @469 Statehood is easily in the majority, 57% at the last count. They're willing to pay for it.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:21 AM (a+5ST)

477 @475, And they threw them out of office.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:22 AM (a+5ST)

478 This whole "English has to be the main language" is dumb.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:13 AM (a+5ST)

To people who don't happen to think meaningful communication, efficiency, and lower administrative costs in the public and private sectors? Yeah, one official language is dumb. Oh, and don't forget people who want to appease their wives.

And when you get a Puerto Rican recruit who doesn't speak a lick of English in boot camp (trust me, it happens more than you'd think)? Yeah, that's real fucking smart.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 15, 2012 10:22 AM (rX1N2)

479 "The current process (and candidates) has killed our enthusiasm, need to light the candle."

And nothing builds enthusiasm like disregarding the votes of millions.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 10:23 AM (GZitp)

480 462 And above all, bide your time, and blindside the person that insulted you by waiting for the right time to stick it to em.
---
Is this reference to some sort of gay thingy?

Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 10:23 AM (eEfYn)

481 Why is a Democrat posting on Ace of Spades?

Well, NavyCopJoe is a Dem, isn't he? We let him post.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 10:23 AM (8y9MW)

482 >>ads were aired for the
non-prescription female hormone balancer Amberen, a food-stamp public
service announcement from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, a spot for
WABC’s other programming and one for The New York Times.

I missed the progg campaign to boycott food stamps.

Hypocrites.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 10:23 AM (ZKzrr)

483 Jean, there is no way any focus will be given to the issues by the media or anyone else during a brokered convention. Issues won't play a part in that circus. The media will turn it into a free for all dump fest on anyone coming out of that sort of convention and it will give Obama a huge boost.

Keep your slurs about Grandpa to yourself.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 15, 2012 10:23 AM (kaOJx)

484 >>>It's the Jersey version of the Horst Wessel Song.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Hahahaha!

Posted by: mike at March 15, 2012 10:24 AM (hPrrZ)

485 @478, We do not have a national language period. We only encourage people to learn English if they want to be a major part of the country. That's it. As I said, there is no national language in this country because there never will be. Puerto Ricans are more motivated to do that when compared to illegals. Take my grandfather in law. He joined the USAF with broken English and served his entire career in the the USAF without hesitation. More Puerto Ricans fight and die for this country per capita than WASPs.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:24 AM (a+5ST)

486 A 750 ml bottle was $70. But the closest place to me that has it is in FL.
Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 09:48 AM (YdQQY)


Ouch. Total Wine and Spirits has it in that size for $48.99. I love a good bourbon, I may have to go out and buy some of this Angels's Envy.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 15, 2012 10:25 AM (v+QvA)

487 >>but to be a state in the United States...



>>you have to pay federal income tax.


Only about half the people. And if you have kids, you can get E[sic]ITC checks just for filing.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 10:26 AM (ZKzrr)

488 @472: Do Micronesians have dual citizenship? I thought they were independent now.

I think joining the US Armed Forces has less to do with patriotism, in their case, than the fact most Pacific Islanders are dirt poor.

The South Pacific may look like Paradise, but in fact its an impoverished shit hole.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 15, 2012 10:26 AM (niZvt)

489 Thanks Author.

I just have a low tolerance for bullshit. I prefer to live in the real world, not the world of partisan spin. While I am not a Mitt supporter (being fair, I did vote for him in the FL primary), I also am being realistic that the math works out in his favor. Even if he doesn't have 1144, he will have the most votes. It will be damned hard to deny the person with the most votes the nomination at the convention.

Any other conclusion is just wishful thinking.

By the same token, I also come down hard on the bullshit that Santorum can't beat Obama in the general. The polls don't support that conclusion. Either Mitt or Rick will beat Obama in November, and do it easily. The person with very hard math to overcome is Obama. His path to 270 is very hard, and I believe impossible.

Regardless of who the nominee is, I will walk over broken glass to vote against Obama, and I believe the vast majority of the GOP will do the same. No one will be sitting this one out on our side over some RINO bullshit. If they didn't sit out 2008, they sure as hell won't sit this one out.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 10:26 AM (nMiwq)

490 Alaska, there about as bad as Puerto Rico in their dependence on the federal government.

True, and they may in actuality be as corrupt as Illinois - they're just a lot smaller - but there's lots of land where nobody will bother you 'cept eskimos and wolves.

Maybe technically you need a permit to build a toolshed but even if the inspector helicopters his ass out there he won't be able to find your underground compound.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 10:26 AM (TULs6)

491 After romney's loss of Alabama and Mississippi there were a couple of threads where some were trying to figure out what romney could do to change the perceptions of him. Seems like he figures he's the candidate and he doesn't care to change any perceptions, he seems to be digging in, as he apparently went on with Meghan on Fox and basically said "I'm rich, what about it, biotch?" Now Beck just played it on his show. But wow that is certainly the way to win over the independents and the conservative dems.....not.

Posted by: wondering at March 15, 2012 10:26 AM (oZfic)

492 He's also apparently unaware that there is no federal law that says that "English has to be the main language."

Santorum is basing his argument on what we used to call "common sense". Language is one of the most important characteristics of a people. There's a reason that Churchill wrote about "English-speaking peoples". Language is the key.

People used to just understand this simple truth about language.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 15, 2012 10:26 AM (X3lox)

493 Tami @463

Yah, I know. That was why I asked that the next one be linked in the main post.

Beginning to worry just a tad.

Posted by: creeper at March 15, 2012 10:27 AM (gre5a)

494 The South Pacific may look like Paradise, but in fact its an impoverished shit hole.

Most islands in general are resource-poor anyways.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:27 AM (a+5ST)

495 It works if it's a pineapple grenade.

Tradeoff size and spiky foliage to make an explosive statement. It's good to have choices.

Posted by: DaveA at March 15, 2012 10:27 AM (Vc/m8)

496 I think the military numbers have more to do with finding a way out of their quasi third world shitholes then patriotism when it comes to these territories..

Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 10:28 AM (GZitp)

497 After romney's loss of Alabama and Mississippi there

He barely lost there. He still took away a chunk of the delegates.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:28 AM (a+5ST)

498
Most islands in general are resource-poor anyways.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:27 AM (a+5ST)

And you always have to worry about everyone going to see the same movie on one side of the island and it tipping over. Living on islands is dangerous.

Posted by: Congress-Geenyus Hank Johnson at March 15, 2012 10:29 AM (X3lox)

499 "The first thing they could do is totally eliminate the bullshit raiding
of the fund to put 20% in urban mass transit. Then they can pass a law
that says fund will only be used for highway and bridge construction and
maintenance. But that will never happen. The other thing they can do is
get rid of café standards. "

Hate to break it to you but overbuilding the highway systems with public money, and gutting private rail freight and private mass transit in the process was a big fucking gift to GM and the rest of the union cocksuckers in Detroit.

If you don't fund urban transit systems urban areas would see vast increases in highway usage and maintenance needs. If the unions weren't bloating mass transit costs in cities the need for highways and the cost of maintaining them in dense urban areas would drop like a rock. I don't think you realize how much of federal highway funding is going to build roads with ridiculously high capacities to low density areas as make work and make maintenance projects for local politicians.

The country is going bankrupt overbuilding and having to maintain roads to nowhere while essential infrastructure for road and rail freight crumbles to dust. If the feds helped Norfolk Southern, UP, and CSX remove the bottlenecks for bi-level freight in the central part of the country the wear and tear on highways from heavy long haul trucking, and the costs of freight transport, would drop dramatically. But nooooo got to keep spending billions on new highway signs with ARRA on them and building/maintaining six lane highways to towns with no industries and less than 5,000 people in them.


Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston would be forever alone without AoS at March 15, 2012 10:29 AM (ijjAe)

500 @496 Believe what you want to believe. I honestly think you're just prejudice against Puerto Ricans who are American citizens just as you are against illegals who are not.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:29 AM (a+5ST)

501 Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:24 AM (a+5ST)

No shit there's not a national language. Never said Puerto Ricans weren't patriotic either.

The point you obviously missed was that the idea of a national language is far from "dumb".

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 15, 2012 10:30 AM (rX1N2)

502 But ... language aside, the answer to Puerto Rican statehood is ... NO.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 15, 2012 10:30 AM (X3lox)

503 490
Alaska, there about as bad as Puerto Rico in their dependence on the federal government.



True, and they may in actuality be as corrupt as Illinois - they're just a lot smaller -


Hold on there, buddy - we've worked pretty damned hard to be # 1! Don't appreciate these bald assertions.

Posted by: the Chicago cronies at March 15, 2012 10:30 AM (BoE3Z)

504 Oh and there is nothing stopping Puerto Ricans from moving to the Mainland. NOTHING whatsoever. There are currently about 3 million or so Puerto Ricans living here in the mainland United States. What about those Puerto Ricans or Nuyoricans that signed up in large numbers too? My grandfather in law lived in LA before he joined up in the USAF in the 50's.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:31 AM (a+5ST)

505 Dammit, I had to go actually work for an hour and didn't get to see EOJ at 345.

I'd have to disagree EOJ, but then, you know, asshole for asshole's sake, right?

Posted by: GMan at March 15, 2012 10:32 AM (sxq57)

506 Afghan president Hamid Karzai on Thursday asked the US to withdraw its troops from Afghan villages and to confine them to bases following a shooting rampage by a US staff sergeant that killed 16 civilians.


Fine, but let's withdraw Karzai's protection detail also

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 15, 2012 10:32 AM (i6RpT)

507 497
After romney's loss of Alabama and Mississippi there



He barely lost there. He still took away a chunk of the delegates.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:28 AM (a+5ST)
Yeah, I know that the campaign rhetoric, but he spent 4 times as much as the other candidates and the people in areas where he would have been strong, stayed home and didn't vote. So, it has to affect his psyche on some level.

Posted by: wondering at March 15, 2012 10:32 AM (oZfic)

508 Let's have a referendum, like in Space Traders. Two 800 numbers, one to give PR independence, the other to make them pay taxes.

Posted by: Jimbo at March 15, 2012 10:32 AM (O3R/2)

509 Oh and there is nothing stopping Puerto Ricans from
moving to the Mainland. NOTHING whatsoever.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:31 AM (a+5ST)



Yes. Puerto Ricans have the sweetest deal on Earth.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 15, 2012 10:32 AM (X3lox)

510 What it does do, is give us a chance of keeping Nixon II (Mittens) out of the WhiteHouse.

Posted by: Jean at March 15, 2012 10:19 AM (WkuV6)

And put Jeb in? Who are we talking about?

Paul Ryan needed to run and needed to run on DOOM! Too late now...

Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 15, 2012 10:32 AM (xAtAj)

511 The point you obviously missed was that the idea of a national language is far from "dumb".

So are you against the Founding Father's objections to have a national language? Who is the dumb one here? The one that thumbs his nose at the Founding Father or the one that follows the Founding Father's intentions?

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:33 AM (a+5ST)

512 Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:29 AM (a+5ST)

Fine, Puerto Ricans are the most patriotic Americans ever. Happy now?

Posted by: lowandslow at March 15, 2012 10:33 AM (GZitp)

513 Yes. Puerto Ricans have the sweetest deal on Earth.

And you don't? We all have the sweetest deal on Earth, period.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:34 AM (a+5ST)

514 Interesting discussion here.

Did you know that you can sign up for the US military if you are a foreign national? After you finish your service, you get preferential treatment for citizenship. Quite a few soldiers use this as a legal way to become citizens.

This isn't even a new practice, I think it dates back to the 1800s.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 10:34 AM (nMiwq)

515 Carlos Norissimo can speak English and Spanish... at the same time.

Posted by: Little Known Chuck Facts at March 15, 2012 10:34 AM (I8Xca)

516 @514, Still have to acquire a green card which is the tricky part. I had a Canadian friend that got rejected for a green card even though he wanted to sign up for the US military.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:35 AM (a+5ST)

517 Hey, I have to dish: finally got a job interview on Tuesday! I don't even care what the position is. I just want to have a reason to leave the house every day.

Posted by: Truman North at March 15, 2012 10:35 AM (I2LwF)

518 Great, now those neutrinos will be more insufferable than ever.

Posted by: Quarks and Mesons at March 15, 2012 10:36 AM (v+QvA)

519 I see that we are still debating the issue of whether or not Santorum is "Electable."

With all due respect to my fellow 'rons and 'rettes, I remain.....unconvinced.

Posted by: Jimbo at March 15, 2012 10:36 AM (O3R/2)

520 @517 any idea what the job is about?

I hate not having a routine either.

Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 15, 2012 10:36 AM (xAtAj)

521 "So are you against the Founding Father's objections to have a national language?"

They all spoke English. Like everyone else did in the English Colonies. I guess they figured the rest of the country they were inventing would do the same.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 15, 2012 10:37 AM (kaOJx)

522 @520 Kissing the boss' ass no doubt.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:37 AM (a+5ST)

523 So are you against the Founding Father's objections
to have a national language? Who is the dumb one here? The one that
thumbs his nose at the Founding Father or the one that follows the
Founding Father's intentions?

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:33 AM (a+5ST)


If the Founders were against a national language (even though every single thing they ever wrote for the US government was in English) then they were just wrong. No big deal. Language is just about everything. On top of that, trying to have a judiciary and treaties in multiple languages (given that we have enough problems keeping leftists even close to logic and reason just with plain, clear English) is an invitation to disaster. Lastly, populations will clearly split along language lines (for very obvious reasons).

Now, I am not talking about some insane language police like the idiot French have. That's moronic. But a national language is a must. If it isn't done in law then it will be done in practice ... or the nation will just disintegrate.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 15, 2012 10:37 AM (X3lox)

524 Did you know that you can sign up for the US military if you are a
foreign national? After you finish your service, you get preferential
treatment for citizenship. Quite a few soldiers use this as a legal way
to become citizens.


You don't even have to finish your service to get that preferential treatment. And, yes, I did know- my wife's ex did exactly that: Canadian (IIRC, maybe British, though) National, joined USAF for assistance in getting his citizenship.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 10:38 AM (8y9MW)

525 I'm not debating Ricky's electability.

To be elected, he'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming across the finish line.

Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 15, 2012 10:38 AM (xAtAj)

526 Good morning, morons and 'ettes. Lovely day here today, but we are expecting a storm to move in... right in time for the weekend, naturally!

This is all over Twitter this morning:
"Mitt Romney's Terrible Fox News Interview
Why does he save his worst performances for the right-leaning network?"
http://tinyurl.com/6rgpf2n

The performance, per se, doesn't worry me -- at least not on substance. I already know Romney is a Rockefeller Republican so there's no big revelation here (and performances in general aren't my bag -- I look at records and platforms more than anything else). That said, I wish he would up his game when he is talking to conservatives. Things like this will squash voter enthusiasm.

Trying to look on the "bright side"... perhaps the fact that he sucks on teh Evil Fox News Network will help him with these mythical Indies I keep hearing about. (OTOH, I think the Indies that we have any shot at grabbing watch Fox News...)

Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 10:39 AM (5H6zj)

527 To be elected, he'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming across the finish line.

To be fair, so will Mitt or Newt.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 10:39 AM (8y9MW)

528 @523, You do know that bills can be written in Spanish but surprisingly no one does that in the US Congress. Hell, the President can issue an Executive Order in Spanish and the meaning will still be the same.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:40 AM (a+5ST)

529 This nation will disintegrate because those fucking Amish won't stop speaking German!

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:40 AM (a+5ST)

530 "So, it has to affect his psyche on some level"

*snort* This isn't a course in self esteem. Winning a nomination is about many things, not the least of which is having money and an organization. So he spent 4 times as much money? Who do you want going up against the Obama money juggernaut? A pauper?

I'm pretty sure Romney is sleeping just fine and he grinds out wins. His strategy is very similar to Obama's primary strategy of picking up delegates a little bit at a time.

Frankly, I think this whole process makes Romney a lot stronger. It shows me that he is willing to do the grunt work, and has the intestinal fortitude to grind it out.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 10:40 AM (nMiwq)

531 Do Micronesians have dual citizenship? I thought they were independent now.
--
The Federated States of Micronesia is an independent country. They were formerly a US Trust Territory. Micronesia is an 'Associated State' of the US by treaty (Compact of Free Association). That essentially means they are a formal protectorate of the US.

Note the use of Associated State here for a protectorate. The Spanish term for Puerto Rico is translated as Associated Free State which tends to imply independence from the US when in fact they are not and in English they are a (self-governing (of debatable level)) Commonwealth. This is just one illustration of the difficulties introduced with multi-lingualism.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 10:41 AM (eEfYn)

532
Be Prepared for 24/7 Obama
The MSM and Hollywood are going to double down on Obama. He will be on every major TV show and at every major sporting event.



And how is this different from what we're getting now? I can't even go grocery shopping without seeing one of the Obamas' faces on a magazine on any given day.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at March 15, 2012 10:41 AM (bMLFV)

533 >>To be elected, he'll have to be dragged
>>kicking and screaming across the finish line.

To be fair, so will Mitt or Newt.

--------

^This.

Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 10:41 AM (5H6zj)

534 Hey, so has Captain Kickass forwarded his NCAA Baracketology to Panetta to review with Karzai and the troops yet?

Posted by: Fritz at March 15, 2012 10:41 AM (/ZZCn)

535 You've all convinced me to part with my formerly racist ways.

Instead of Puerto Ricojoining the US, the US should join awesome fantastic patrioticPuerto Rico.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 10:42 AM (TULs6)

536 Mitt has us by the balls.

A week before the election in November he could urinate on a toddler on live TV, and he would still beat Obama.

He knows most votes for him are really votes against Obama.

He doesn't care. He still wins: and we go from a President who is a Marxist pretending to be a Liberal pretending to be a Moderate, to a President who is a Liberal pretending to be a Moderate pretending to be a Conservative.

Posted by: eman at March 15, 2012 10:42 AM (ZOIWB)

537 @536, Ohh what else are you going to label Romney has? A pacifist in sheep clothing? Please.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:43 AM (a+5ST)

538 "the President can issue an Executive Order in Spanish and the meaning will still be the same."

But the MESSAGE isn't, is it? Because I don't speak spanish. Or german. Or italian.

I speak english.

When my leaders are so cavalier as to make me the alien in my own country, civil war is next.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at March 15, 2012 10:43 AM (0tRzD)

539 517
Hey, I have to dish: finally got a job interview on Tuesday! I don't
even care what the position is. I just want to have a reason to leave
the house every day.

Posted by: Truman North at March 15, 2012 10:35 AM (I2LwF)



Yay! On the downside, you'll have to start wearing pants again.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 15, 2012 10:43 AM (UOM48)

540 to a President who is a Liberal pretending to be a Moderate pretending to be a Conservative

---

He's stop pretending to be a conservative once the general starts.

Nevertheless, he does not hate America, so I will vote for him. But I am bracing myself already for a lot of disappointment either way.

Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 10:43 AM (5H6zj)

541 This nation will disintegrate because those fucking Amish won't stop speaking German!

Stupid or obtuse?

There is no problem with a specific population speaking their own regional language among themselves. For trade, government, and any other cross-regional interactions, a national language is a requirement- in fact if not in name. A "nation" which has no unified language is not a nation- and will not retain its sovereignty for long.

Even if you're not a believer, the Bible has a lot of good object lessons- read about the Tower of Babel sometime.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 10:43 AM (8y9MW)

542 @535 Except they don't. They're willing to pay income taxes which Statehood is currently at 57% and still growing. Even Noyoriscans are big advocates of Puerto Ricans gaining statehood. Yes they're traitors, I know!

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:44 AM (a+5ST)

543 This nation will disintegrate because those fucking Amish won't stop speaking German!


That goes against your argument. The Amish are quite visibly separate.

Posted by: fluffy at March 15, 2012 10:45 AM (vRSeu)

544 "the President can issue an Executive Order in Spanish and the meaning will still be the same."
-

That introduces a whole new level of complexity with regard to translation. There is enough ambiguity within the original language. Then issues with translation/transliteration are introduced. Obama would love it; fits his style.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 10:45 AM (eEfYn)

545 To be fair, so will Mitt or Newt.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 10:39 AM (8y9MW)

Not nearly as much. They just drag their feet. Mitt plays the centrist, Newt doesn't moralize. Santorum simply evokes disgust on my facebook feed, if that's any indicator. Libertarians loath him. Even my liberal friend who is abandoning the D's this year(DOOM! related reasons and Obama's lying ass) won't vote for him.

I'll vote for Santorum. I'll crawl over broken glass to do so. But he will almost certainly lose unless Obama really starts falling apart in likability.

Posted by: GergS(Dirty Scandi Dog Whistle) at March 15, 2012 10:45 AM (xAtAj)

546 @541 Neither and there are still Amish speaking German in majority numbers in certain areas of Pennsylvania. You are the one that's either stupid or obtuse.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:45 AM (a+5ST)

547 I did notice that yesterday Romney very quickly answered when asked what he would cut from the budget. Right off the top of his head, "Obamacare, Planned Parenthood funding, and Amtrack subsidies".

This is why I like seeing this nomination drag out. He is forced to adopt these positions, and be ready to drop the lines casually.

I could hear liberal heads exploding over that line.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 15, 2012 10:46 AM (nMiwq)

548 He doesn't care. He still wins: and we go from a President who is a
Marxist pretending to be a Liberal pretending to be a Moderate, to a
President who is a Liberal pretending to be a Moderate pretending to be a
Conservative.


On the up side, that's still a step (if a small one) to the Right.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 10:46 AM (8y9MW)

549 Neither and there are still Amish speaking German in majority numbers in
certain areas of Pennsylvania. You are the one that's either stupid or
obtuse.
-
True. In most Amish households, the Amish outnumber the non-Amish.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 10:47 AM (eEfYn)

550 I really don't see the problem with English being the primary language in Puerto Rico. If a U.S. citizen travels to another state, they should not have to worry about whether or not they can communicate with government officials, police, etc.

The argument that major parts of AZ, TX, FL, and CA are bi-lingual is not persuasive to me. The default language for the government is and should be English. If they want to have bi-lingual signage or requirements for their police forces or what have you, that's their business.

Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 10:47 AM (5H6zj)

551 I just hope Santorum stays off the resrvations. He would call the Native Americans Arapa Ho's.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 15, 2012 10:47 AM (Hx5uv)

552 @549, that cracked me up

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:48 AM (a+5ST)

553 He doesn't care. He still wins: and we go from a President who is a Marxist pretending to be a Liberal pretending to be a Moderate, to a President who is a Liberal pretending to be a Moderate pretending to be a Conservative.
Posted by: eman at March 15, 2012 10:42 AM (ZOIWB)

I'm a dude playin' a dude disguised as another dude!

Posted by: Sgt. Osiris at March 15, 2012 10:48 AM (DrWcr)

554 Republicans apparently have a new front runner capable of beating Romney among actual voters. You can tell because the media and AOSHQ is bashing him and calling him an idiot.

On the other hand, I'll bet a lot of folks love the fact that Santorum gives Political Correctness a kick in the ass and doesn't insist that our kids need to learn to speak Spanish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZprtPat1Vk

Makes for a damn nice contrast imo

Posted by: DaMav at March 15, 2012 10:48 AM (EqxtD)

555 As long as America stays Indo-European, I think we'll manage. Just need to keep the Finno-Ugrians at bay.

I cannot deal with another 7 and a half months of daily polls. Every time I see Obama aheadnationally or in some region, it makes me pick my nose. I find the underside of my desk utterly crusted withsnot.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at March 15, 2012 10:48 AM (Ec6wH)

556 >> that's still a step (if a small one) to the Right

Let's do the Time Warp, yeah!

Posted by: Y-not gets her Rocky Horror on at March 15, 2012 10:48 AM (5H6zj)

557 @551 He's got to say something no matter what. He's the Joe Biden of the Republican Party.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:48 AM (a+5ST)

558 there are still Amish speaking German in majority numbers in certain areas of Pennsylvania.


Don't forget Ohio and Indiana. Yet, the Lehman's catalog is printed in English.

Posted by: fluffy at March 15, 2012 10:49 AM (vRSeu)

559 You do know that bills can be written in Spanish but surprisingly no one does that in the US Congress. Hell, the President can issue an Executive Order in Spanish and the meaning will still be the same.

You've convinced me to abandon my formerly racist ways.

korekaranihongowahanashimasu.

gamanda,desuka?

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 10:49 AM (TULs6)

560 @536, Ohh what else are you going to label Romney has? A pacifist in sheep clothing? Please.
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:43 AM (a+5ST)

Oh, did I wound him too much?

Poor, Mitt. He must suffer all those nasty folks out there who call him a Liberal and a phony.

Posted by: eman at March 15, 2012 10:50 AM (ZOIWB)

561 556 >> that's still a step (if a small one) to the Right Let's do the Time Warp, yeah!
Posted by: Y-not gets her Rocky Horror on at March 15, 2012 10:48 AM (5H6zj)




Preceded by a jump to the left...

Posted by: Insomniac at March 15, 2012 10:51 AM (v+QvA)

562 The Amish don't speak German, they speak Pennsylvania Dutch.

Posted by: wondering at March 15, 2012 10:51 AM (oZfic)

563
Nevertheless, he does not hate America, so I will vote for him. But I am bracing myself already for a lot of disappointment either way.


Yes, I can see the blog comments now. Troll: Your President is an idiot and a hypocrite; AoSHQ Moron: You're absolutely right.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at March 15, 2012 10:51 AM (bMLFV)

564 >>Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston

Have you ever been west of the Connecticut River? "Urban mass transit" is less than useless in 90% of the country.

My brother-in-law manages "mass transit" for a town of 25k in Iowa (federal money). It's a fucking joke. They maintain and run buses, and the ridership is six old people who never go anywhere except downtown during normal business hours. (He himself has never ridden a bus, except when they went to Kansas City to pick one up, he had to drive it back.) Everyone else who lives there actually has to be able to get around--including being able to leave town for work.

Federally-funded mass transit is such a fucking joke that when they held a conference in Indianapolis last summer, the participants all rented cars to get downtown (which is walkable for most people).

But he gets to go see MLB games around the country on junkets, so it's a good job.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 10:52 AM (ZKzrr)

565 Posted by: eman at March 15, 2012 10:50 AM (ZOIWB)

Nay, it's just stupid. Some guy on another blog (gatewaypundit) called him a pacifist because he's a Mormon. When Mormons are ANYTHING but pacifists. Cry more about it.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:53 AM (a+5ST)

566 From Iowahawk on Twitter:

#DavesEnergySavingTips Properly inflate your tires. Properly deflate your government.

Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 10:53 AM (5H6zj)

567 and we go from a President who is a
Marxist pretending to be a Liberal pretending to be a Moderate, to a
President who is a Liberal pretending to be a Moderate pretending to be a Conservative.


That's dangerously inaccurate. Barky is, first and foremost, ineligible. Secondly, he isn't liberal or moderate or anything in the American political spectrum. Barky is out to destroy America. Period. I'd even take a liberal wet turd like Kucinich over Barky any day of the week.

Romney is awful and he's trying to make it as painful as possible for anyone to vote for him (not sure why, but he seems to like to emulate McShame, who beat his butt senseless in the 2008 primary), but he would still be an infinite improvement over the Ineligible Idiot from Indonesia.

But, it seems that Romney wants to toy with the idea of making people form a third party (which will certainly happen right after the 2012 election, as the GOP will be totally useless after that event). I wish he would just go away, myself, but Mittens is going to stay and try to muck things up as much as he is able. That just seems to be the way Romney is.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 15, 2012 10:53 AM (X3lox)

568 They maintain and run buses, and the ridership is six old people who
never go anywhere except downtown during normal business hours.




Hey. Here in Kenosha we've only got 4.

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 10:53 AM (P6QsQ)

569 Neither and there are still Amish speaking German in majority numbers in
certain areas of Pennsylvania. You are the one that's either stupid or
obtuse.


I'm sorry, when did the (German-speaking-only) Amish integrate with mainstream American Society? 'Cause I must have missed that memo. You do know that, when they're interacting with people outside the Amish community (not all that often, but it happens) they speak English, yes? And that City Amish (I think they have a specific name for that group, but that's how I've always heard them called) speak English.

I don't have a problem with Mexican populations in certain areas speaking Spanish amongst themselves, either. But the moment you attempt to cater to all languages in your business, let alone in Government, you introduce a level of complexity that is unsustainable. If you were to attempt to actually govern multilingually, you'd find the Government (any government) tearing itself apart pretty quickly.

The issue with their not being an "official" national language just means we don't care which specific language we all use- but, make no mistake, for the Government to govern, and for businesses to do business, a national language is essential. English is that national language- in fact, though not name- and (with some rare exceptions) lack of even basic fluency is a huge hurdle to overcome- sometimes impossible.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 10:53 AM (8y9MW)

570 WalrusRex, LOL!

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at March 15, 2012 10:54 AM (bMLFV)

571 And our trolley? I have literally never seen ANYONE on it.

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 10:55 AM (P6QsQ)

572 @562 And yet it's referred to officially as Pennsylvania German. The Amish came here from Switzerland / Southwest Germany, not the Netherlands.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:55 AM (a+5ST)

573 Trust me, a little Spanish lingo is going to come in handy in the future. Some people could a shit about contraception, that's for haughty white bitches who go to Georgetown... Demographics is destiny.

Posted by: navybrat at March 15, 2012 10:55 AM (GT6tU)

574 Let's do the Time Warp, yeah!

I was hoping for the Electric Slide, personally...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 10:56 AM (8y9MW)

575 @569, And how is that any different from Nuyoricans? Also go to the Island of Puerto Rico and a good amount of them will speak English because they're dependent on tourism from the mainland. You'll get around easier than you would in Mexico, Colombia, Cuba, etc.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:56 AM (a+5ST)

576
It is ridiculous that Puerto Ricans are allowed to vote in the GOP primary. They aren't even American. Somebody should look into this.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 15, 2012 10:56 AM (EgUGc)

577
Romney is awful and he's trying to make it as painful as possible for anyone to vote for him (not sure why, but he seems to like to emulate McShame, who beat his butt senseless in the 2008 primary),


Because he's listening to his advisors. Yet, another occupation that "earns" a paycheck doing a very inadequate job. Right up there with meteorologist and politician.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at March 15, 2012 10:57 AM (bMLFV)

578 I can see the blog comments now. Troll: Your President is an idiot and a hypocrite; AoSHQ Moron: You're absolutely right.
-----

I have a feeling if Romney wins, the trolls will not be the ones complaining about him.

I honestly worry about what type of president he'll be. I do not like what he's shown me of his understanding of the level of accountability an elected official owes the voters. I think he's got this imperious "because I say so" streak in him that reminds me of Obama. And I do not think his priorities are my priorities, but I have never subscribed to the "businessmen are conservative" mindset that some seem to adhere to.

But at least he doesn't hate America and, although some of the folks in his circle are incredibly odious (John Sununu springs to mind like a gelatinous weasel), Romney does actually associate with a better group of people than does Obama.

I am literally in this place now -- I am only considering voting for Romney in the general because he is better than Obama. I truly do not like the guy and do not think he will be a good president (IF he wins), but I hope I will be pleasantly surprised.

Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 10:58 AM (5H6zj)

579 No one cares what language you speak at home. My Skandi relatives speak Swedish at home. No one has a problem with that except the young ones who get mad at Christmastime because they can't decipher the talk about what Christmas presents they are getting.

We are talking about the language of government and commerce. English.

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 10:58 AM (P6QsQ)

580 @576 Troll is obvious troll.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:58 AM (a+5ST)

581 Milwaukee used to be the largest German-speaking city west of Berlin. Late19th century/early 20th century English-descent Americans HATED the German immigrants (despite or perhaps because of their contributions to the Revolution and assorted American industries). Anti-alcohol leagues were formed to stop Germans from making/selling beer. German periodicals got shut down during WWI. German churches were forced to preach in English. They were legally forbidden to teach their children German in schools.


Honestly, I think refusing to expect Latin Americans who come to the U.S. to learn English is racism. The "we have to print everything in Spanish" proggs are saying the Spanish-speakers are too dumb/lazy to learn English. It's the voter ID argument, only on the ballot.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 11:00 AM (ZKzrr)

582 I truly do not like the guy and do not think he will be a good president
(IF he wins), but I hope I will be pleasantly surprised.


The benefit of being a Cynic is that when you're wrong, it almost always means you're pleasantly surprised.

But I'm with you.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 11:00 AM (8y9MW)

583 And yet it's referred to officially as Pennsylvania
German. The Amish came here from Switzerland / Southwest Germany, not
the Netherlands.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:55 AM (a+5ST)



They speak Amishian. Sheesh. "Wheeling and dealing" (I don't know how they say that in Amishian) in those buggies.

Posted by: Barky the Tardy from Jakarty at March 15, 2012 11:01 AM (X3lox)

584 572
@562 And yet it's referred to officially as Pennsylvania German. The
Amish came here from Switzerland / Southwest Germany, not the
Netherlands.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:55 AM (a+5ST)
My friend was raised in Switzerland and she was surprised to find out they spoke the same swiss german that she speaks with her family. It's called Pennsylvania Dutch usually this is the first time I've heard it referred to as Pennsylvania German so by including the German part you must be attempting to make some point?

Posted by: wondering at March 15, 2012 11:01 AM (oZfic)

585 @579 Which they do use the language of government and commerce. As I've maintained, there is no rules that dictates what languages must be used on the floors of any Congress in ANY US States or the US Congress. Spanish works fine in Puerto Rican because it's convenient but they do also know English. If you didn't know. One of the official languages in Puerto Rico as a commonwealth is ENGLISH.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:01 AM (a+5ST)

586 We are talking about the language of government and commerce. English.

nihongo. gaijinwabakada.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 11:02 AM (TULs6)

587 @576 Troll is obvious troll.

You will not be on the protected rolls, Outlander.

Posted by: toby928© at March 15, 2012 11:02 AM (GTbGH)

588 >>580 @576 Troll is obvious troll.

Newbie is obvious newbie.

Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 11:02 AM (5H6zj)

589
580
@576 Troll is obvious troll.


Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:58 AM (a+5ST)







Ooooooh...you called EOJ a troll?









Wait....I need to go make popcorn.

Posted by: Tami at March 15, 2012 11:03 AM (X6akg)

590 Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 11:02 AM (TULs6)

"Japanese. You western idiot?"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 11:03 AM (8y9MW)

591 >>The Amish came here from Switzerland / Southwest Germany, not

the Netherlands.

It's a corruption of "Deustch", not a reference to the Netherlands.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 15, 2012 11:03 AM (ZKzrr)

592 when i have the hots for a hot chick, sometimes the bulge in my pants prevents me from seeing what's going on in Puerto Rico as well, i guess that could be the reason for these hate Santorum postings.

Posted by: doug at March 15, 2012 11:04 AM (gUGI6)

593 If you want buses in Boston, fine you pay for it. The problems with stealing 20% of the gas taxes to pay for buses in Boston is that the money that should be spent on buses in Boston gets spent on socialism. (see posts above about fungbility of money)

Gas taxes are intended to pay for roads used by gasoline cars.

Posted by: Vic at March 15, 2012 11:04 AM (YdQQY)

594 Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:58 A

EOJ has more "internet cred" than you do based on tenure alone. I'm relatively new here, and I'd advise not throwing the troll moniker on the long term regulars. They don't tolerate slander here real well.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 15, 2012 11:04 AM (kaOJx)

595 More Iowahawk:

While filling up your car, calm yourself by meditating on all the polar bears you're saving. #DavesTips

Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 11:04 AM (5H6zj)

596 Newbie is obvious newbie.

Been here since 2006. Thanks for the good thoughts though.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:04 AM (a+5ST)

597 If someone from Puerto Rico moves to the United States and makes their life there, when do they stop being Puerto Rican and start being American?

Actually I'd like that question posed to a lot of groups on both sides of the issue, but this is the one being tossed around right now, so deal.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, in Cylon hell at March 15, 2012 11:05 AM (GBXon)

598 @576 Troll is obvious troll.

I'm a longtime lurker and I lol'ed at that stupidity.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at March 15, 2012 11:05 AM (niW49)

599 At least 9 out of 10 Puerto Ricans on the Island speaks English but not to a fluent level. That's better than 0 of the 10 illegals that comes from Mexico.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:06 AM (a+5ST)

600 Wow.. I'm gone for a few days and everyone is at each others throats. Must be campaign season.

Posted by: jewells45 at March 15, 2012 11:06 AM (l/N7H)

601 "At least 9 out of 10 Puerto Ricans on the Island speaks English but not
to a fluent level. That's better than 0 of the 10 illegals that comes
from Mexico."

Why are you being belligerent?

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at March 15, 2012 11:07 AM (0tRzD)

602 EOJ has more "internet cred" than you do based on tenure alone. I'm
relatively new here, and I'd advise not throwing the troll moniker on
the long term regulars. They don't tolerate slander here real well.


Nonono. We don't protect the idiots from EoJ. We let them handle them in his own... unique fashion.

Been here since 2006. Thanks for the good thoughts though

*Tweeeeet* 2 minutes for BS-ing.

Anyone here that long would know EoJ. Heck, I've only been here a couple of years, and EoJ is one of the commenters I look for.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 11:07 AM (8y9MW)

603 If someone from Puerto Rico moves to the United States and makes their life there, when do they stop being Puerto Rican and start being American?

They don't because they were already Americans. Jones-Shafroth Act did that job back in 1917.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:07 AM (a+5ST)

604 @602 And? I'm glad you praise the ground he walks on.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:08 AM (a+5ST)

605 Those damn Republicans and their war on women are at it again. Now they oppose the "Don't Punch a Woman Act".
Some detect a "whiff" of politics in the timing. Really??? A "whiff"??? I guess we're on to page 2 of the Democrat playbook for the fall election.

Posted by: rockhead at March 15, 2012 11:08 AM (ZMHGo)

606 I'm more interested in the interview wolfie had the other night with the governor of puerto rico. He said he would do anything to get mittens a total win and then wolfie gave him an opportunity to walk it back cause of the way it sounded to the audience and he instead reinforced it. It made you think "chicago machine" only in puerto rico and republican. Felt bad for Santorum in one of the debates he said he was personal friends with the governor and they went to church together withe their families. Ah Rick money trumps everything and power, friendship inside the beltway is an illusion.

Posted by: wondering at March 15, 2012 11:09 AM (oZfic)

607 They don't because they were already Americans. Jones-Shafroth Act did that job back in 1917.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:07 AM


Do they self-identify as American, or Puerto Rican?

Posted by: mama winger at March 15, 2012 11:09 AM (P6QsQ)

608 Posted by: Some guy you don't know in Wisconsin at March 15, 2012 10:17 AM (iwTh6)

Spare me. You were not. You were insulting and were corrected. Quit whining. BTW, I was told by Gman to Fuck off and I hadn't even spoken to him nor read his comment so get over your little self. Did you not get enough trophies?

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 11:09 AM (u50z0)

609 "That's better than 0 of the 10 illegals that comes from Mexico."

Nonsense. Those fellows that mowed my yard, they understood waht I was saying. Perfectly.

Posted by: Mittens Romney at March 15, 2012 11:09 AM (kaOJx)

610 Via Paul Ryan:

Earlier today, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), in response to a request from House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, released an analysis of the President’s health care law, finding that three to five million Americans will be pushed out of their employer-provided health insurance each year from 2019 through 2022.

http://tinyurl.com/7pukf98

Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 11:10 AM (5H6zj)

611 @607 Americans. Puerto Rican in terms of cultural groups. I'm a German when I describe myself in terms of my cultural history.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:10 AM (a+5ST)

612 600
Wow.. I'm gone for a few days and everyone is at each others throats. Must be campaign season.

Posted by: jewells45 at March 15, 2012 11:06 AM (l/N7H)

Pay attention next time. The circular firing squad rallies at 1200. BE THERE!

Posted by: Hedgehog at March 15, 2012 11:10 AM (3jGS1)

613 My wife is a Puerto Rican latina but she's an American when she speaks of nationality.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:11 AM (a+5ST)

614 As I've maintained, there is no rules that dictates what languages must
be used on the floors of any Congress in ANY US States or the US
Congress.



That's not saying much. We just saw this Congress pass gargantuan, insane legislation without ever reading it, at all, and proudly proclaiming that fact. In fact, during the Porkulus, people were specifically told that they had to vote for the bill sight unseen ... and they did and no one went to jail.

So ... by that standard the language of legislation wouldn't matter at all, but by normal, regular standards of sentient people (not affirmative action rules for retards). But, if you think that a multi-lingual legislature is reasonable (for a real country, not a fake one that does pretty much nothing of value and exists not of its own efforts but because other, real countries allow them to declare themselves nations) then you need to radically reassess what it is that you think forms, maintains and propels nations forward.

And language is much more than just a means of communication. It includes whole piecs of human personality in it. People change to adapt to the language they must speak and society changes with them. Like I said, there's a reason that Churchill wrote about "English Speaking Peoples", using language as the line of demarcation. Language is culture in many ways. Very many ways. The idea that different languages involve nothing but different "translations" and "utterances" to express the same exact idea is ridiculous. Different languages are built around totally different world-views and those views are reflected in the language and forced on the speakers.

Language is not just a meaningless facade. It is a very deep characteristic of a peoples.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 15, 2012 11:11 AM (X3lox)

615 "Japanese. You western idiot?"
Question mark? No "ka", "da". Desu, less politely, desuka?

I have to admit I'm impressed you actually managed to translate my jinglish though.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 11:12 AM (TULs6)

616 They don't because they were already Americans. Jones-Shafroth Act did that job back in 1917.

...and thank you for playing. Legal status they may have, but culturally...?

If only we had a high profile example of someone who fit the technical legal definitions of citizenship, yet lacked the cultural hallmarks, to the detriment of the nation at large...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, in Cylon hell at March 15, 2012 11:12 AM (GBXon)

617 AllenG,
The definition of troll to a Mitt supporter is a conservative.

Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 11:12 AM (5H6zj)

618 A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Florida Voters finds Obama leading former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney 46% to 43%. Seven percent (7%) like some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

In a face-off with former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum, Obama posts a 45% to 43% lead. Eight percent (8%) favor someone else in the race, while four percent (4%) again remain undecided.

This marks basically no change in the Obama-Romney matchup from a month ago when the president also led by three points, 47% to 44%. Santorum at that time was in a near tie with the incumbent with Obama earning 47% to the GOP hopeful’s 46%.

Posted by: Greg at March 15, 2012 11:14 AM (J3Ovp)

619 I'm a German when I describe myself in terms of my cultural history.

Funny, I identify my self as an American in that regard.

Details, old chum, details...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, in Cylon hell at March 15, 2012 11:14 AM (GBXon)

620
Pfft. Never saw a Puerto Rican I served with hang a tiny American flag from his rearview mirror. Or put an American flagbumper sticker on his bumper.

They were all Puerto Rican flags. That's certainly patriotic. Just like guys in Germany who sport German flags are patriotic. For Germany.

Guess what else? More Samoans serve in the Army per capita than Puerto Ricans, mijo. Samefor the Guamanians I served with.Notbecause they're necessarily patriotic (though some are) but because they live on a fucking island and it's the only way they can afford to leave.Just like Puerto Ricans.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 15, 2012 11:15 AM (EgUGc)

621 More Iowahawk:
#DavesEnergySavingTips Set your thermostat to November 6.

Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 11:15 AM (5H6zj)

622 617
AllenG,

The definition of troll to a Mitt supporter is a conservative.

Posted by: Y-not at March 15, 2012 11:12 AM (5H6zj)
ooooo that was a good one.....Well he keeps racking up the stupid.....when beck played the meghan kelly interview, beck, a fellow mormon, you decided that mittens was totally clueless and had he read the threads indicating all the stuff the dems will throw at him, he's decided he's going to emphasize the "I'm rich and suck it up if you don't like it" theme. Wow, that's going to go over real well with those middle class independents...

Posted by: wondering at March 15, 2012 11:16 AM (oZfic)

623 If I go to a DMV in Port Rice can I get a japanese translator?

Port Rice needs to be inclusive if it wants to be a state.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 11:16 AM (TULs6)

624 Funny, I identify my self as an American in that regard.

Details, old chum, details...


Good for you! What are you going to do now? Call me a traitor because I describe myself as a German when speaking of my cultural history?

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:16 AM (a+5ST)

625 Cry more about it.
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 10:53 AM (a+5ST)

What others have said is irrelevant. Mitt will get the nod and likely win in November. He'll get my vote then, but my contempt for him will remain.

I've seen what Mitt is like when he has power and the relief from ousting Obama will not last long.

Mitt is everything that has been wrong with the GOP for decades. He is a diluted Democrat.

Posted by: eman at March 15, 2012 11:17 AM (ZOIWB)

626 More Samoans serve in the Army per capita than Puerto Ricans

Except this isn't true

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:17 AM (a+5ST)

627 Sorry I'm late to the party, I had to, finish, Barry off before I could use the PC.

Posted by: Greg at March 15, 2012 11:17 AM (kaOJx)

628 Personally, I consider myself a Viking-American. I have often thought that I should sue to be allowed to perform those cultural activities that are central to Viking-American way. Looting, pillaging, burning, and making off with comely Irish lasses are all near the top of the list.

(I seriously considered creating a Viking-American club while I was at college.)

Sandra Fluke - did she? Or didn't she? Only her bikini-waxer knows for sure.

Posted by: David, sockpuppeted troll at March 15, 2012 11:18 AM (UtoLw)

629 I have to admit I'm impressed you actually managed to translate my jinglish though.

What can I say? I like Anime. Subs, not dubs.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at March 15, 2012 11:20 AM (8y9MW)

630 The idea that different languages involve nothing but different "translations" and "utterances" to express the same exact idea is ridiculous.

There is a reason there is no computer that can do even a half decent job of translating English to Japanese or Chinese.

That is also I suspect the reason most translated Chinese menus call pork soup "Old Man Very Happy Explodes Reluctantly Rainbows On Porcine Mountain Setting; Make Swollen Contentedness".

Studying non-indo-european languages can lead to interesting insights about the nature of language and the effect it can have on what you will even want to say, or think is important.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 11:22 AM (TULs6)

631 If it's not Scots-American, it's crap.

Posted by: toby928© at March 15, 2012 11:22 AM (GTbGH)

632 I've seen what Mitt is like when he has power and the relief from ousting Obama will not last long.



Mitt is everything that has been wrong with the GOP for decades. He is a diluted Democrat.

Posted by: eman at March 15, 2012 11:17 AM (ZOIWB)



I don't much worry about that because I have confidence that it will be exceedingly easy to impeach Mittens and throw his butt out if he tries anything like Barky has been doing. America is itching to impeach and convict a President and put some rational limits back in that office after all the incredible damage that Barky has done to it. I'm actually looking forward to voting for Mittens (if I must) and then impeaching his sorry ass 6 months later when he starts pulling his shit with "replacing" ObamaCare. That would finally put some fear in the GOP dipshits and might even give the left a moment of pause. Jailing Barky and his junta would be much better, of course, but we have to deal with the nation we have ...


Elect and Impeach 2012

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 15, 2012 11:22 AM (X3lox)

633 Good for you! What are you going to do now? Call me a traitor because I
describe myself as a German when speaking of my cultural history?


Hardly. It's just telling what the priorities are, is all. I could claim bits from Germany, Poland, England, France, Ireland, Sicily, and so forth from my particulars, but I don't, because I'm not German, Polish, English, French, Irish, or Sicilian.

The subtexts of a response are sometimes far more telling than the text. It's food for thought. As to your relative loyalty, I don't know you and can't say. And given my own family's name was changed around WW I from its very German original, you're earning no points with that line, for the record.

So then, returning to the actual point: Are they culturally American or not, and how are we supposed to tell?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, in Cylon hell at March 15, 2012 11:24 AM (GBXon)

634 What can I say? I like Anime. Subs, not dubs.

The dubs are horrible in anime. So I stick with subs all the way.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:24 AM (a+5ST)

635 Damn Santorum sucks. Too bad Romney sucks more. A lot more.

Posted by: gm at March 15, 2012 11:24 AM (K0tm3)

636
Except this isn't true <<<

Thanks for the boner.

As of 2006, American Samoa had the highest per-capita combat KIA rate of ANY state or territory. Get your fucking learn on.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 15, 2012 11:25 AM (EgUGc)

637 Isn't American Samoa the place turning out a disproportionate number of football stars? I seem to remember reading something about this. That was always a big joke in college, "where is the American Samoan kid?" until someone made it and he said "here I am"......

Posted by: wondering at March 15, 2012 11:27 AM (oZfic)

638 More Samoans serve in the Army per capita than Puerto Ricans


--
Except this isn't true ---- (Kaitian)
----
Per capita recruits (per 10,000 pop) with ranking:

Guam 1 -- 14.5
American Samoa 6 -- 6.9
Puerto Rico 55 (Last place) -- 0.4
Weighted Average -- 4.9


Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 11:27 AM (eEfYn)

639 @637 Yes

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:29 AM (a+5ST)

640 639 Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:29 AM (a+5ST)

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Yes. You are an idiot. Please have a nice day!

Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 11:31 AM (eEfYn)

641 RioBravo at March 15, 2012 11:27 AM
Burn level 7 of 10 stars. Well played.
/polite golf clap

Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 15, 2012 11:35 AM (kaOJx)

642 “Without successful political structural reform, it is impossible for us to fully institute economic structural reform and the gains we have made in this area may be lost,” Mr Wen said at his farewell briefing at the National People’s Congress, China’s rubber stamp parliament which meets for just 10 days every year.

“New problems that have cropped up in Chinese society will not be fundamentally resolved and such a historical tragedy as the Cultural Revolution may happen again,” the premier added, in remarks that were broadcast live on national television. “The mistake of the Cultural Revolution and impact of feudalism are yet to be fully eliminated.”

Posted by: China Watch at March 15, 2012 11:42 AM (e8kgV)

643 Yes. You are an idiot. Please have a nice day!

Because how? My friend is from the Moari Tribe from Tonga which they are although Tongans, they are extremely close relatives to Samoans. He played for BYU for 4 years which they introduced the Haka dance for the pre-game in honor of his dad when he died from Leukemia in Vancouver WA and I was at the funeral.

So look in the mirror.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:43 AM (OXg8r)

644 That's Maori, whoops.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:45 AM (OXg8r)

645 Kaitian has more friends than Tidy Cat.

Posted by: toby928© at March 15, 2012 11:46 AM (GTbGH)

646 @645 And?

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:47 AM (OXg8r)

647 Yes. You are an idiot. Please have a nice day!



Because how?

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I was responding to your YES in a general way. My error. I apologize for the confusion. Please see comments 100- 638 above but mostly comment 638.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 15, 2012 11:47 AM (eEfYn)

648 Is doug a troll? The accent sounds trollish.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at March 15, 2012 11:47 AM (bMLFV)

649 @648 It's more of a red herring post.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:49 AM (OXg8r)

650

The Democrat party truly cannot comprehend a woman going to vote who is
more concerned about the dent in her paycheck caused by $5-per-gallon
gasoline than finding free condoms, or who worries about the future
impoverishment of her children and grandchildren because of Obama's
borrow and spend binges more than she worries about buying the Pill, or
whose most pressing concern is not sexual liberty, but a
college-graduate son or daughter who has moved back to live with mom
because s/he can't find a job and therefore can't make student loan
payments and rent at the same time.



Not in the Dems' world view is a woman who pays her mortgage every month
but who know that her home's market value is less than the mortgage
principal remaining, and stupidly thinks that this is more important to
her future (and thus her voting) than getting morning-after pills. There
is no room in Democrat gender-identity politics for a woman who has
been married to one man for 35 years and so never thinks about getting
free contraceptives or an abortion (that is, what Dems say is "basic
health care") but who is intensely concerned with her elderly parents'
net worth falling as inflation rises.



No, these women simply do not authentically exist in the Democrat
universe. Such women simply have not heard the full message that there
should be nothing more important to a woman than sex, sex, sex.



To the Democrat party, women are simply sex objects, though with
political and statist rather than fleshly purposes. But objects is all
they are. That's the real message that countless women get very well and
strongly reject.

Posted by: sexual objectification of women at March 15, 2012 11:51 AM (e8kgV)

651 Yes. You are an idiot. Please have a nice day!

Hai,bakadesu. Dewamatane. Gomennasai! Itadekimasu!

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 11:52 AM (TULs6)

652 ?creeper? Whoever was asking about SOS, haven't seen an update. You can use "site:minx.cc StuckOnStupid" googlefu or even

site:minx.cc "stuckonstupid at march 12, 2012"

AOSHQ gets crawled regular so anything new shows up quick.

Posted by: DaveA at March 15, 2012 11:54 AM (hRgT/)

653 That mandate was made under the guise of “women’s health,” that peculiar branch of medicine which has determined that every naturally occurring happening in an adult woman’s life, from menstruation to ovulation to childbearing to menopause, is a medical problem to be managed with the appropriate drugs or surgical procedure. That so many “feminist” women sign on to essentially declaring their gender a malady to be treated has always struck me as peculiar but that is a story for a different day.

Posted by: sexual objectification of women at March 15, 2012 11:54 AM (e8kgV)

654 Good for you! What are you going to do now? Call me a traitor because I describe myself as a German when speaking of my cultural history?
Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:16 AM (a+5ST)


Go back to Nazistan you filthy sausage humping kraut.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at March 15, 2012 11:55 AM (6BgmB)

655 The Democrat party truly cannot comprehend a woman going to vote who is more concerned about the dent in her paycheck caused by $5-per-gallon gasoline than finding free condoms

What irritates me is that no one even argues on whether or not "women" support the democrat position. Women's issues, war on women.... pro-life women are not women but rather androgynous sex-traitors. A woman is defined implicitly as being in no small part a marxistcommunist by virtue of her vagina.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 11:57 AM (TULs6)

656 Cut them loose already. We can buy that island of theirs our Navy uses for target practice pretty cheap.

Hell we can probably bribe one of the locals to give us a 99 year lease.

Posted by: runninrebel at March 15, 2012 11:57 AM (N/1Dm)

657 @648 It's more of a red herring post.Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 11:49 AM (OXg8r) Troll red herrings often containa heavily deviant sexual tone.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at March 15, 2012 11:59 AM (bMLFV)

658 Hell we can probably bribe one of the locals to give us a 99 year lease.

For like a bucket of plastic beads and a bottle of Hennessy, no less.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 11:59 AM (TULs6)

659 "He's also apparently unaware that there is no federal law that says that "English has to be the main language."

so dogmatic federalism trumps cultural cohesion for you. whatever floats your boat, some of my best friends are illegal immigrants, let's become the New Balkans and all just get along.

is this site conservative on anything besides taxes/less govt. in the economy, despite it's ridiculously strident rhetoric?

Posted by: Russell Kirk at March 15, 2012 12:00 PM (60GaT)

660 I know Japanese:
"Domo arigato, Mr Roboto"
How did I do?

Posted by: Dick Nixon at March 15, 2012 12:01 PM (kaOJx)

661 like honestly, i appreciate the fact that a lot of y'all are likely post-9/11 ex-liberals, but it's obvious some of you haven't really let go of old liberal assumptions and you don't get to lecture conservatives on what "real conservatism" (invariably libertarianism) is to fit your own personal preferences.

Posted by: Russell Kirk at March 15, 2012 12:04 PM (60GaT)

662 "Domo arigato, Mr Roboto"
iesonnakotoiwanaide,kinishinaide.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 12:06 PM (TULs6)

663 The internet is vast. Explore it.

Posted by: toby928© at March 15, 2012 12:06 PM (GTbGH)

664 Claiming that it's in the school curriculum is not the same as saying that the Commonwealth is bi-lingual.

Posted by: bustermcd at March 15, 2012 08:27 AM (0AX8H)



Pretty much. I had compulsory English classes in primary school when I lived overseas - that didn't mean all the gov't business and such were conducted in English.

So uh, Gabe brought up a non sequitur to ding Santorum. Again.


Oh, never mind, it's worse:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico#Language

The official languages [of Puerto Rico] are Spanish and English with Spanish being the primary language.

Gabe, either you didn't do the research, or you're deliberately trying to deceive us. You're shooting yourself in the foot here.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 15, 2012 12:10 PM (v3pYe)

665 I had a Mexican friend that was stationed on Oki, thought it was hillarious to walk to into the DMV and act like he only spoke Japanese and watch them try to figure out which translator he needed.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 12:11 PM (TULs6)

666 Claiming that it's in the school curriculum is not the same as saying that the Commonwealth is bi-lingual.
Wonzu. Hotu. Doggu. Pleezu.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 12:13 PM (TULs6)

667 I took Spanish in high school too so of course I'm bilingual and would have no problems ordering sopas in Port Rice.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 12:13 PM (TULs6)

668 No me gusta! No me gusta!

Posted by: Panama Canal at March 15, 2012 12:15 PM (60GaT)

669 Everyone in Japan speaks English.
Pasokan. That's english. Paso, kan... personal computer. Don't you speak english, bakagaijin?

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 12:17 PM (TULs6)

670 Mama winger is an iceback. Get back on your dragon ship or ice floe and go back to where you belong - Greenland!

Posted by: sexypig at March 15, 2012 12:24 PM (wWV5q)

671 "is this site conservative on anything besides taxes/less govt. in the economy, despite it's ridiculously strident rhetoric?"

---------------
This site used to lean libertarian, but then a bunch of so-cons bored of their church websites came here. Maybe they felt drinking val-u-rite and cursing at people wasn't acceptable at evangelicalangels.com

(I actually have no idea if the site used to lean which way or the other. But Ace doesn't seem very religious to me.)

Posted by: sexypig at March 15, 2012 12:28 PM (wWV5q)

672 Um, I agree with him.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 15, 2012 12:28 PM (r4wIV)

673 @Entropy,

So I went to Japan with my Taiwanese co-worker who could read the Kanji and their alphabet, and we worked as a team...she would sound out the Japanese and then I would guess what English word the Japanese had borrowed...

"why-to bor-do" oh, white board

Ma-ka pennu, oh, marker pen

I'm surprised they haven't just switched to English with extra vowels at the end.

Posted by: sexypig at March 15, 2012 12:29 PM (wWV5q)

674 Sexypig, it gets more fun when the extra vowels aren't just on the end but in the middle. I'll have one glass of shokora miruku pleezu.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 12:35 PM (TULs6)

675 This site used to lean libertarian, but then a bunch of so-cons bored of their church websites came here. Maybe they felt drinking val-u-rite and cursing at people wasn't acceptable at evangelicalangels.com

Mostly fiscal conservative but moron conservatives in general. As long you voted Republican, you were golden. Social cons have been around for a long time so we put up with them.

Posted by: Kaitian at March 15, 2012 12:36 PM (OXg8r)

676 Mostly this site was originally invented as a place to hook up with local Thai ladyboys.

Things just kind of escalated.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 12:40 PM (TULs6)

677 Santorum is unaware of a LOT of things. In fact, I was watching a clip on YouTube of Santorum being interviewed on Fox News Sunday when my chin hit the floor. Apparently Santorum not only disagrees with the notion that the states have all powers except those specifically reserved for the federal government or the people and believes that is "wrong" (his words).

I wasn't sure from the wording if he believes that it is morally wrong, or that it is wrong to interpret the Constitution that way. But he believes that moral "right" at the federal level trumps law at the state level.

He also believes that the federal government has a moral obligation to ban things that are against strict Catholic religious doctrine. He believe contraceptives themselves should be banned, for example. Not the banning of federal money to purchase them, but the fact that they are available at all is bad and is a reason for the crumbling of the moral fabric of the nation. As a Protestant (Episcopal), I have some serious problems with this.

He has stated that the states have a higher moral contract which trumps the constitution and he has also said that there is effectively no limit to federal government powers to regulate immoral activity. Now not all of these were said at the same time. They were on different subjects, but it gives a better idea of where this idiot's head is. The notion of there being no limit to federal government power was in the context of SOPA and the ability of the government to control what people do on the Internet. But if he believes the government has that power coupled with his statement on state constitutional powers being trumped by "moral right", it is clear this man is a far right statist.

I have no problems with someone who holds deep religious convictions. I have SERIOUS PROBLEMS with someone who would attempt to use government to enforce their personal deep religious convictions on the land as a whole.

If he doesn't think contraceptives are a good idea, fine, he doesn't have to use them in his family. He has the right to attempt to educate and persuade. He does NOT have the right to tell people who believe otherwise that they can not obtain them which he appears to believe the federal government has the power to do.

The man is a flat out lunatic.

Just google "crazy santorum" and look at some of the stuff he has said going all the way back to the 1990's. And also remind yourself that he had THE LOWEST job approval rating of any Senator by his constituents of any Senator ever in recorded. It is no wonder he lost his seat in the Senate with an approval rating in the 30's.

The more I dig into the stuff this man has said, he looks like either a maniac or an idiot. I haven't been able to decide yet which.

Posted by: crosspatch at March 15, 2012 12:45 PM (ZbLJZ)

678 Obama may suck..but the other guys are douche bags.

Posted by: Billionairebratwithbrains at March 15, 2012 12:48 PM (uhPd1)

679 "I have no problems with someone who holds deep religious convictions. I
have SERIOUS PROBLEMS with someone who would attempt to use government
to enforce their personal deep religious convictions on the land as a
whole."

i have no problem with someone who has views opposed to my own. i have a serious problem if he actually tries to advocate for those views.

do people realize how dumb this sounds?

also, Santorum disagrees with the Supreme Court decision that holds contraception as a constitutional right. there was a time when 100% of conservatives would've agreed on this, regardless of their view on it's (il)legality. unless we're against open-ended Constitutional interpretation only when it's convenient.

as far as "putting up" with SoCons, i don't even call them SoCons, just conservatives, and if anything they put up with the other guys since the types of conservatives who break it up into three legs exist primarily in electorally irrelevant blue states.

Posted by: Russell Kirk at March 15, 2012 12:52 PM (60GaT)

680 basically unless someone is trying to establish a Church of the United States, which would actually be textbook unconstitutional and obviously will never happen, i am all for candidates duking it out over which morality to "impose" on the nation, regardless of how much i might disagree with it. neutrality is false.

Posted by: Russell Kirk at March 15, 2012 12:54 PM (60GaT)

681 678 Obama is a marxist critical race theorist and a black theology adherant so if you're white you'd better worry if this guy gets elected again.

Posted by: dagny who loved andrew at March 15, 2012 12:55 PM (u50z0)

682 @ crosspatch

You've got that wrong. It's not that there's a "moral right" at the federal level - it's that there's a moral law that is more fundamental than either the federal or state level. Ex: The lack of legislation restricting slavery 200 years ago does not mean that American slavery was morally good. We don't all agree on what's moral law or not, but all of the gov't laws we do have are intended to enforce a moral law - the least common denominator that we (sort of) agree on.


The contraception stuff from Santorum isn't that he wants to ban the stuff. His opinion that he shared is that they cause harm to society, but he's also stated that he thinks the gov't should not ban them, either. Dock points for possibly alienating voters with a "crazy stance", but no need to put words into his mouth.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 15, 2012 12:58 PM (sGtp+)

683 In his latest blithering, Santorum says that if he is elected, the federal government will "crack down" on Internet porn.

http://tinyurl.com/88wnmot

Posted by: crosspatch at March 15, 2012 01:04 PM (ZbLJZ)

684 "ConservativeMonster"

No, he said in his own words out of his own mouth:

The notion that the state governments have all powers except those specifically prohibited by the constitution is wrong.

I watched him say it.

He has said the government should ban contraceptives. He has said the government should ban porn. The man is a little right wing statist tyrant no better than the left wing statist tyrants.

Posted by: crosspatch at March 15, 2012 01:06 PM (ZbLJZ)

685 Obama is a marxist critical race theorist and a black theology adherant so if you're white you'd better worry if this guy gets elected again.
You'd better worry if any of these bozos get elected. Worry much. The only thing that could possibly saveAmerica now would be if a cute cockerspaniel somehow pulled off a brokered convention nomination.

Any way you slice it we are in for DOOM.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 01:07 PM (TULs6)

686 ^oh noes! he's gonna lose the critical Reason "Porn Is Better Than Religion" Magazine swing vote!

Posted by: Russell Kirk at March 15, 2012 01:07 PM (60GaT)

687 "He has said the government should ban contraceptives. He has said the government should ban porn."

1st one, no he didn't
2nd one, so?

conservatives who think Liberty is an end in and of itself are not conservative at all. if you're a free rotten society ya ain't shit.

Posted by: Russell Kirk at March 15, 2012 01:09 PM (60GaT)

688 unless we're against open-ended Constitutional interpretation only when it's convenient.

Good news!

Well... not really good... Not really news either...

Discouraging statements of obvious fact!

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 01:11 PM (TULs6)

689 2nd one, so?

Let's look at it this way.

How many wrong-door no-knock raids does the societal impact of winning the War on Nudity justify?

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 01:13 PM (TULs6)

690 I have absolutely no issue with someone who holds deep personal moral convictions. I have a SERIOUS problem with anyone who wishes to use government to enforce their personal moral convictions on the people of this country, right or left doesn't matter.

This man is a NUT.

Posted by: crosspatch at March 15, 2012 01:15 PM (ZbLJZ)

691 No, he said in his own words out of his own mouth:

The notion that the state governments have all powers except those specifically prohibited by the constitution is wrong.


This is wrong. Powers not allocated to the federal gov't are reserved for the state and the people. The idea that each state can be its own fiefdom is wrong, because we can and will restrict what states can do, if they're doing something like enslaving a portion of their population.

If the state tramples on powers reserved to the people, then the state gov't needs to be smacked down, even if the constitution doesn't expressly say to do so. We the people can tell the federal gov't to do so, because that's our reserved power.


He has said the government should ban contraceptives. He has
said the government should ban porn. The man is a little right wing
statist tyrant no better than the left wing statist tyrants.


You're going to have to link me the source to accept what you're saying, because I'd like a chance to parse the actual words instead of taking your summary on faith.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 15, 2012 01:17 PM (v3pYe)

692 oh noes! he's gonna lose the critical Reason "Porn Is Better Than Religion" Magazine swing vote!

He tries to ban porn he's going to lose more than that.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 01:20 PM (TULs6)

693 683
In his latest blithering, Santorum says that if he is elected, the federal government will "crack down" on Internet porn.

http://tinyurl.com/88wnmot



Here's what was actually said:
"The Obama Administration has turned a blind eye to those who wish to
preserve our culture from the scourge of pornography and has refused to
enforce obscenity laws
."

If the law is on the books, shouldn't it be enforced? And if it's not enforceable, then perhaps it it needs to be stricken. The executive isn't supposed to pick and choose which laws he likes to enforce.

It's a valid criticism of Obama's governing style, and you turn it into a talking point about protecting our rights to pornography.

BTW, protecting doesn't need to mean "ban". It could mean restrict. We restrict alcohol (based on age, or while driving), for example - is that a ban on drinking?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 15, 2012 01:24 PM (sGtp+)

694 "How many wrong-door no-knock raids does the societal impact of winning the War on Nudity justify?"

this is not the only function of law. unenforced laws can still have an effect.

don't get me wrong though, i definitely think there is a constitutional right to spank it.

Posted by: Russell Kirk at March 15, 2012 01:26 PM (60GaT)

695 690
I have absolutely no issue with someone who holds deep personal moral
convictions. I have a SERIOUS problem with anyone who wishes to use
government to enforce their personal moral convictions on the people of
this country, right or left doesn't matter.

This man is a NUT.



I have no issue with you disagreeing with Santorum. I have a SERIOUS problem with anyone who mangles quotes out of context and twists words.

I don't believe you're doing that intentionally. Please don't prove me wrong.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at March 15, 2012 01:26 PM (v3pYe)

696 We are endowed by our Creator, with certain unalienable erotic-viewing rights...

Posted by: Ron Jefferson at March 15, 2012 01:28 PM (60GaT)

697 It's not about dee buttol pleasures, or the pussyjuice cocktail

Posted by: Sanji at March 15, 2012 01:33 PM (60GaT)

698 Santorum looks and acts more and more like an Obama campaign plant every day. Wot a tewl.
Now he wants to go after internet pr0n. Just what this country needs right now is a crusade against internet boobehs.
Not like theres much happening with the economy or in foreign affairs, so...yeah, let's have that discussion. Never mind 4 years of 8+% unemployment, a Mideast verging on an historic and apocalyptic collapse. Gotta crack down on them horny housewives and the pool men who love them.

Posted by: MD at March 15, 2012 01:37 PM (ytKgL)

699 I can walk and chew gum at the same time bitch.

Posted by: Pope Santorum at March 15, 2012 01:39 PM (60GaT)

700 and i enjoyed my fair share of pr0n in my day but let's not pretend it isn't dangerous to penile spirituality

Posted by: Pope Santorum at March 15, 2012 01:40 PM (60GaT)

701 Porn is degrading to women!

Porn is empowering for women!

We'll get back to you.

Posted by: Lefty McLefterson at March 15, 2012 01:43 PM (60GaT)

702 if the GOP wants to be the anti-porn party now then count me out. you can't take away my sustenance.

Posted by: David Frum at March 15, 2012 01:44 PM (60GaT)

703 BTW, protecting doesn't need to mean "ban".

Maybe you should keep reading.

If elected, he promises to “vigorously” enforce laws that “prohibit distribution of hardcore (obscene) pornography on the Internet, on cable/satellite TV, on hotel/motel TV, in retail shops and through the mail or by common carrier.”

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 01:53 PM (TULs6)

704 Also I think we need to put diapers on cows.

I don't trust those Iowans.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 01:54 PM (TULs6)

705 Santorum makes my caucus sad. We all know porn is the ultimate symbol of Western Civilization.

Posted by: Lifestyle Libertarian Caucus at March 15, 2012 02:01 PM (60GaT)

706 You know who else liked porn? Hitler.

Posted by: Professor Godwin at March 15, 2012 02:12 PM (60GaT)

707 DaveA @652

Thanks for the links. I think I'm up-to-date. Just wondering (worried) about not hearing anything yesterday. Che-boy and the che-bots seem to be spiraling out of control.

I'll go with the theory that no news is good news for the time being.

Posted by: creeper at March 15, 2012 02:13 PM (gre5a)

708 I support Rush Limbaugh when he calls people sluts. Regardless of who it is, because it is funny.

But putting sluts in jail for being sluts? That is a bridge too far.

If they can prohibit "obscene" pictures, with no redeeming value that degrade our society, why can they not prohibit obsceneverbage with no redeeming value that degrades our society?

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 02:16 PM (TULs6)

709 Porn is art.

Posted by: Nick "Midlife Crisis" Gillespie at March 15, 2012 02:18 PM (60GaT)

710 You know who else liked porn? Hitler.

Actually I think he hated porn. At least, he viscerally hated filthy prostitutes and sluts.

Nazi whorehouses were literally for procreation purposes.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 02:19 PM (TULs6)

711 Shotguns on a 500 pound bear?Oh, absolutely. A 12 gauge (which is the standard cop issue) would do the trick quite nicely, especially loaded with slugs.I wouldn't go any smaller than a 16 gauge, though.

I'd hope that two or more cops would show up with pump action 12 gauge shotguns in that situation. My single-shot break action 12 gauge is fine for pheasants and stuff, but you want a lot more UMPH to bring down something that big. Wounding is just not good enough.

Posted by: Mr_Write at March 15, 2012 02:21 PM (VJUQK)

712 Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against the poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like a hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill of fare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you will hardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food, particularly for the youth...Theater, art, literature, cinema, press, posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political, and cultural idea.
- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 10

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 02:24 PM (TULs6)

713 well i guess Mr. Hitler wasn't wrong 100% of the time.

Posted by: Russell Kirk at March 15, 2012 02:29 PM (60GaT)

714 Apparently the nazis banned porn in 1933.

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 02:30 PM (TULs6)

715 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at March 15, 2012 03:56 PM (7W3wI)

716 Maybe you should keep reading.



If elected, he promises to “vigorously” enforce laws that
“prohibit distribution of hardcore (obscene) pornography on the
Internet, on cable/satellite TV, on hotel/motel TV, in retail shops and
through the mail or by common carrier.”

Posted by: Entropy at March 15, 2012 01:53 PM (TULs6)


Then take that up with your Congress who voted those laws in place.

Or do you want to develop a system of gov't where laws are enforced based on the personal whim of the president? How's Obama working out for you?

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