<i>Avatar</i> Feature Trailer

Avatar Feature Trailer

I will be seeing this on opening night. Unless I can find a way to an advance screening. Or murder someone else with a way to an advance screening. Rly.

I know, I know, the plot is very WYSIWYG. Don't care. It's got Sam Worthington and Sigourney Weaver and Michelle Rodriguez. And Giovanni Ribisi. And Zoe Saldana (as an alien).

I do love, however, the "From James Cameron list."

The Director Of
TERMINATOR
ALIENS
TERMINATOR 2
TRUE LIES
TITANIC

Really? Titanic? Um, okay. (Still haven't seen it, BTW.)

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 07:50 PM

Comments

1 Dances with Smurfs. Heh.

Posted by: jimmythenotable at November 14, 2009 07:56 PM (atV5h)

2 You know it's not a musical, right, Gabe?

Posted by: Peaches at November 14, 2009 07:58 PM (9Wv2j)

3 Dude, is it me, or is the volume toggle being a pain in the ass? When I try to turn it up, it sinks back down out of sight... like some kind of a cruel joke.

Posted by: Stan at November 14, 2009 07:59 PM (nkZ7E)

4 This flick looks like the same old tired PC storyline: Mean military types exploit peace loving indigenous people for economic gain.

Posted by: dri at November 14, 2009 08:05 PM (qLZ+x)

5 Going Rogue on Smurfs

Posted by: kefka at November 14, 2009 08:08 PM (n1uMU)

6 I would like to apologize for the US oppression of and insensitivity to persons of blue color.

Posted by: Bowry Obowma at November 14, 2009 08:09 PM (5iQTe)

UFC 105: Randy Couture vs. Brandon Vera on Spike now.

Much better then CGI smurfwars nonsense.

NO SMURF FOR SMURF! Gargamel lies smurfs die!

Posted by: Entropy at November 14, 2009 08:10 PM (cok/k)

8 dri, I get the same impression. "Evil military made up of moron soldiers rapes planet, noble savage natives fight back, and the only kinda-smart soldier has epiphany and switches sides." Bleh, no thanks.

Posted by: Cortillaen at November 14, 2009 08:11 PM (gusJY)

9 looks like its just "fern gully" but with aliens instead of fairies

Posted by: ramms at November 14, 2009 08:12 PM (2ghqI)

10 sorry, but I am from the camp that believes this kind of crap is ruining movies. If I want to see a cartoon, I'll go see a cartoon. I hate CGI so badly I could spit. It reminds me of how now 90% of pop music is sung through a pitch correcter.

The other thing is, budgets are now concentrated on this crap instead of decent writing, acting, etc.

Posted by: ms. docweasel at November 14, 2009 08:14 PM (kgwdA)

11 Screw that. The Crazies is the one I'm waiting for. Feb 2010.

Posted by: ArmedGeek at November 14, 2009 08:15 PM (cE5v5)

12 Looks like absolute shit. Melodramatic, thudding, drama queeny, and about as subtle as a grand piano dropped on your head from a helicopter. And that swelling, gaseous Wal-Mart music makes me want to puke. This is another opportunity for me to refrain from rewarding rich leftists for slandering their country and the troops who defend it. I won't see this, and I won't miss anything by choosing to do so.

I already know that the human angle of this will be childish and mortifying, just like Titanic. We're living in an era in which the big dogs in politics and entertainment have lost the ability to convincingly portray anything approaching normal, healthy, functional emotions. Look at our hologram of a president. He's completely hopeless at striking the right note. He hands you a plate of turds, insisting that they're cinnamon rolls, and he expects you to be too stupid and degraded to tell the difference.

It'll give me great pleasure to pass up this garbage and not give it a second thought.

Posted by: Hypogean at November 14, 2009 08:18 PM (cVJwC)

13 Ironic, or just stupid? The only time Obama demonstrates humbleness is when he is trying to humble the US to the world.

Posted by: Cortillaen at November 14, 2009 08:20 PM (gusJY)

14 Bah, wrong thread... (not sure how that happened, though XD )

Posted by: Cortillaen at November 14, 2009 08:21 PM (gusJY)

15 They look like the blue cat people.

Posted by: John Bigbooty (rdb) at November 14, 2009 08:22 PM (a/B2/)

Michelle Rodriguez is a plus?!? Oh hell, am I on the wrong planet again?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 14, 2009 08:24 PM (eNxMU)

17 I know I'm alone in this, but I thought "The Terminator" was Cameron's best film, and one of the true great movies, and it's all been downhill ever since.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 14, 2009 08:25 PM (eNxMU)

Posted by: John Bigbooty (rdb) at November 14, 2009 08:27 PM (a/B2/)

19 Hot damn, yet another remake of Romeo and Juliet!

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at November 14, 2009 08:29 PM (tahIV)

What irks me about this movie is that it's billed as an original story by Cameron, but is in fact a blatant ripoff of Poul Anderson's 1957 novella "Call Me Joe."

The lawyers for Anderson's estate must be asleep if they haven't initiated a lawsuit against Cameron by now.

I also agree with Mrs. DocWeasal (#10) about the pernicious overuse of CGI.

Posted by: sauropod at November 14, 2009 08:33 PM (r45p0)

This movie looks like it's chock full 'o' suck. I think James Cameron is a worthless hack anyway so you can take my opinion with a grain of salt.

Seriously, if a computer generated update of Dances With Wolves is the culmination of his life's work he should do us all a favor and put a gun in his mouth.

Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 14, 2009 08:34 PM (lE0Xo)

By the way, is there some way to turn off the center-text thing?

'Cause all the text is centered.

Posted by: sauropod at November 14, 2009 08:34 PM (r45p0)

23 Wow. The graphix look beautiful, and almost demand viewing the movie for that alone. Then the plot gets lost in L.A. traffic and never makes the shoot. I've seen this movie before. Several times. Last Samurai, any recent movie involving an oil company, etc...

The flash-bangs are different, but it's all the same: Taking the StarWars approach hopping they new shinys distract from anything more substantial than the absurdly-trendy-yet-guilt-ridden introspective "We are the Enemy" nonsense.

It's a shame to use such beautiful window dressing on such a wall of crap.

Posted by: NickLevi86 at November 14, 2009 08:38 PM (CkMFk)

24 Dances with Smurfs in Fern Gully

Posted by: brak at November 14, 2009 08:40 PM (HuvXH)

25 #12 Walmart music? I think of this as drug store music, but I guess that's the same thing.

As for #13 being in the wrong thread, not really: the same brainwashing that allows this type of 1 inch-deep movie to succeed got us Obama.

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 14, 2009 08:41 PM (kGarj)

26 I know I'm alone in this, but I thought "The Terminator" was Cameron's best film, and one of the true great movies, and it's all been downhill ever since.

Agreed, except for Aliens. So technically you are indeed alone, but only barely.

Posted by: Hypogean at November 14, 2009 08:41 PM (cVJwC)

Obama would bow down to James Cameron.

Posted by: HH at November 14, 2009 08:42 PM (+jvXp)

28 The helicopters are straight out of The Incredibles.

James Cameron better not have pulled a fucking Lucas with this one.

Posted by: someguy at November 14, 2009 08:44 PM (VRJIW)

Obama would bow down to James Cameron.

He is royalty afterall. King of the world and all that. And really, Cameron does deserve more respect than President Pepsi Logo. Not much, but some.

Posted by: buzzion at November 14, 2009 08:45 PM (opdYb)

30 Obama would suckle James Cameron's penis - as soon as he wipes off the Emperor of Japan's jis from his eyelid.

What a total homo.

Posted by: someguy at November 14, 2009 08:45 PM (VRJIW)

31 Walmart music? I think of this as drug store music, but I guess that's the same thing.

Music with all the emotional resonance of Wal-Mart.

http://tinyurl.com/yhbom6r

Posted by: Hypogean at November 14, 2009 08:46 PM (cVJwC)

32 What a total homo.

Posted by: someguy at November 14, 2009 08:45 PM (VRJIW)

Be fair. How long could you wake up next to Sasquatch before you switched teams?

Posted by: Peaches at November 14, 2009 08:48 PM (9Wv2j)

33 There is no fucking way I'm watching this movie. The left packages up their anti-Bush, anti-Iraq shit in some new technology to finally get someone to watch their bullshit. No thanks.

Posted by: Amused Observer at November 14, 2009 08:49 PM (xGXz7)

34 Re: #12- "the big dogs in politics and entertainment have lost the ability to convincingly portray anything approaching normal"

To them there is no "normal." Film and liberalism are a global market now, and when you try to please everybody, the lowest common denominator pleases only the lowest common denominator(i.e. folk who care little about what things actually say, other than "stick-it-to-the-man" and "ooh, shiny!")

That's the reason no one makes "great American" movies anymore. If there was money/marketshare in it on the global scale, those spineless hacks would produce it in a heartbeat.

Posted by: NickLevi86 at November 14, 2009 08:51 PM (CkMFk)

35 How long could you wake up next to Sasquatch before you switched teams?

At least I'd pitch. I mean Christ all Mighty.

Obama's catching all over the world. Jesus H. Christ man have some respect for your bunghole.

God, I'll be glad when this little metrosexual presidency is done with.

Posted by: someguy at November 14, 2009 08:54 PM (VRJIW)

36 Yep. Just more politically correct crap about the evil military-industrial complex murdering noble natives for the sake of greed. Worse, it will be utterly predictable every step of the way.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 14, 2009 08:55 PM (cxGtL)

37 "Just more politically correct crap about the evil military-industrial complex murdering noble natives for the sake of greed."

Yea, but think of all the merchandising rights he'll get with a whole new line of Naboo dolls (trailer did say Naboo, right?). Lucas gave him that name. For free man.

You're on Pandora ... get it, Pandora's Box? Get it? Subtle enough for you idiots in Paduka?

I'm James Cameron, Bitch.

Posted by: someguy at November 14, 2009 09:00 PM (VRJIW)

38 Hey Nick, just out of curiousity, what do you consider the best recent American films?

Posted by: HH at November 14, 2009 09:02 PM (+jvXp)

39 After watching this trailer again .. I mean, God this isn't even bad enough to suck cock. This is crack whore does a monster dildo territory.

He's ripping off like at least 5 movies in the trailer alone.

The Incredibles
Star Wars
Alien
Rudy
Farenheit 9/11

Just what we need ... fucking Michael Moore plays with MS Paint.

Posted by: someguy at November 14, 2009 09:05 PM (VRJIW)

40 Wow - that looks totally unwatchable...

Posted by: Lyford at November 14, 2009 09:06 PM (LJPyb)

41 Linda Hamilton described Cameron as "an absolutely miserable, miserable unhappy man."

Are there any happy leftists? If I had millions, I'm pretty sure I couldn't stop grinning. Any millionaires here? It's pretty nice to have boatloads of money, isn't it? I mean, I'm not going out on a limb by saying that, am I? So how come we never see a happy liberal millionaire?

Posted by: Hypogean at November 14, 2009 09:06 PM (cVJwC)

42 You haven't seen Titanic?

Spoiler Alert:

The ship sinks, the water is cold, icy even.

Posted by: Barack Obama, President Guy at November 14, 2009 09:08 PM (qPFP/)

43 Beat it, Barry!

Posted by: eman at November 14, 2009 09:09 PM (qPFP/)

44 So the moral is "No War For Oil?"

and that attacking your own forces if you see them as imperialistic oppressors is a good thing?

Timely.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 14, 2009 09:09 PM (AfPnb)

45 Which helicopter is Brian Dennehy?

Posted by: eman at November 14, 2009 09:10 PM (qPFP/)

46 Hey Nick, just out of curiosity, what do you consider the best recent American films?

I'm not Nick, but I'll say The Gift, Panic Room, and Ellie Parker. Those are three of my favorites. And they're not that recent.

Posted by: Hypogean at November 14, 2009 09:11 PM (cVJwC)

So how come we never see a happy liberal millionaire?

Methinks that they were brought up to think that only money and fame can buy happiness. Once they achieve that and realize that their entire life is a lie, they set out to make everyone as miserable as they are.

Misery loves company, as they say.

Posted by: Alex's Cabin at November 14, 2009 09:13 PM (lE0Xo)

48 This trailer gives me the same message I got from Dances With Wolves:

'White Man Bad'

Some BS CGI don't make it any better.

Remember, Cameron also made The Abyss, which, despite some good ideas, was a muddled mess.

Posted by: nickless at November 14, 2009 09:15 PM (MMC8r)

49 That movie looks gaytastic... why on Earth do you want to see it?

Posted by: DoDoGuRu at November 14, 2009 09:16 PM (Xdxf8)

Wow,about the war!

I don't like the war,I like the peace.when the world is peace,the marchant is safe.The laptop battery is sales out.

Posted by: Laptop-battery at November 14, 2009 09:18 PM (+XBch)

51
Seriously Malor? Opening night? Looks like another turdtastic yawner from that douche Cameron.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 14, 2009 09:20 PM (aPts0)

I don't like the war,I like the peace.when the world is peace,the marchant is safe.The laptop battery is sales out.

Posted by: Laptop-battery at November 14, 2009 09:18 PM (+XBch)

You are the scum. When the merchant is the scum, all the world is his spamplace. Him crappy shit is the excrement in me sammich.

Posted by: nickless at November 14, 2009 09:20 PM (MMC8r)

53 "Hey Nick, just out of curiosity, what do you consider the best recent American films?"

By "American films" I mean where "Truth, Justice and the American way[i.e. Freedom!]" are the driving forces and it's clear that our people can be and are still the good guys. They don't believe we are that anymore, or are marketing to people who don't believe that.

It's been so long, I can't think of much specifically.
Anything John Wayne naturally,
WW2 settings, especially Kelly's Heroes(USArmy does Ocean's 11).
Heck even Search for Red October, even though it's about a Lithuanian played by a Scottsman.

Posted by: NickLevi86 at November 14, 2009 09:22 PM (CkMFk)

54 Posted by: Laptop-battery at November 14, 2009 09:18 PM (+XBch)

You have to admit, this AI is better than most spambots. It almost on-topic, almost.

Posted by: toby928 at November 14, 2009 09:23 PM (PD1tk)

55 Can you not see this movie sucks?

What's the blue chick's name? "Sits on a fist"?

Posted by: eman at November 14, 2009 09:24 PM (qPFP/)

56 The poor, poor natives!

Posted by: Libtard at November 14, 2009 09:25 PM (B5cM9)

DUDE.

The spammer is actually spamming manually, speaks english, and reads the posts?!

LOFLWTF

Posted by: Entropy at November 14, 2009 09:33 PM (cok/k)

58 Like Lucas, Cameron has forgotten (if he ever knew) the importance of storytelling vs. technology in making movies. 'Terminator' had a solid, dynamic (if not very original) plotline. By the time he made 'Titanic,' the special effects had assumed primary importance in Cameron's mind; the 'plot' in 'Titanic' is actually repulsive. (As is Rose.) With 'Avatar,' the technology is all. The story is an appendix, not even worth bothering with -- hence the bundle of PC cliches on display in the trailer. People who like kick-ass SF movies will be watching 'Terminator' years from now. 'Avatar' is destined to show up on the sale rack at Best Buy, packaged in a two-DVD set with 'Final Fantasy.'

Posted by: RNB at November 14, 2009 09:34 PM (WkjqG)

59 And the f'ing spammer gives a UK address and speaks pidgin English. In case he didn't piss me off enough in the first place.

Posted by: nickless at November 14, 2009 09:34 PM (MMC8r)

I am so sick and tired of Hollywood making us the bad guys. Not one more red cent - I won't even buy the DVD.

Regards,

Posted by: Mike at November 14, 2009 09:35 PM (Exyh+)

61 Gabe, this looks GOOD to you?!

Posted by: Z Ryan at November 14, 2009 09:38 PM (cMo6P)

Wasn't "Naboo" the name of the mythical island in "Bedknobs & Broomsticks"?

So I guess that's SIX movies that JC ripped off to make this one.

Posted by: Russ from Winterset at November 14, 2009 09:38 PM (/MEFr)

Kelly's Heros is one of my all time faves.

But for me, the most recent (sort of) and best American films are:

Pulp Fiction

Memento

LA Confidentiial

I just love movies with real plots. Convoluted maybe, but fun.

Posted by: HH at November 14, 2009 09:38 PM (+jvXp)

64 Dances with Smurfs.

+10

Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 14, 2009 09:41 PM (Qt4Y7)

I don't like the war,I like the peace.when the world is peace,the marchant is safe.The laptop battery is sales out.

Wot 'e f*cking said. Blimey, that tart f*cking wanker 'as a way with f*cking words, don't 'e? 'E's f*cking Shakespeare on Stratford-Upon-f*cking Avon, 'e is!

Posted by: Ozzy Osbourne at November 14, 2009 09:42 PM (Qq+Vk)

Jesus, you know what scares me? I actually understand what Ozzy posted.

Apparently I've watched WAY too many English films and broadcasts!

Posted by: HH at November 14, 2009 09:49 PM (+jvXp)

So these losers have the technology to take a military combat team, including crippled guys to the stars, but not enough to do drive a mineshaft a few hundred yards sideways under the village to get the pretty rocks. Or to blow their asses up in 20 seconds if they decided to go that way.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 14, 2009 09:52 PM (KuxzT)

68 Give any director unlimited money and they will break every shit meter on Earth, even some on Pandora.

Posted by: eman at November 14, 2009 09:53 PM (qPFP/)

69 Really, can't the enemy EVER actually be the real enemy? Why does it always have to be the Marines/military, Christians, or corporations?

Hollywood, just a heads up -- there really are people out there trying to kill you!

Posted by: LifeTrek at November 14, 2009 09:55 PM (tJTIW)

One of the problems with Hollywood doing SF-- limited ability to think things through.

Posted by: nickless at November 14, 2009 09:56 PM (MMC8r)

71 67,

You'll never make it in Hollywood with that kind of imagination.

Posted by: eman at November 14, 2009 09:56 PM (qPFP/)

72 CGI has taken away any suspense and sense of wonder from these films. You no longer ask yourself, "How the hell did they do that?" because you know it was all done in a computer. The actor may not even be real. And CGI allows all kinds of deus ex machina plot solutions that were never possible when movies involved real live actors and real live writers.

Posted by: obama is a traitor at November 14, 2009 09:56 PM (Qt4Y7)

73 #58 Lucas' only interesting film was THX-1138, and mostly for its visuals.

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 14, 2009 09:57 PM (kGarj)

74 Soon computers will generate everything, the sets, the actors, the sounds, the plot, all of it. They will follow simple formulas and mix and match things to create something "new".

Posted by: eman at November 14, 2009 09:59 PM (qPFP/)

Or to blow their asses up in 20 seconds if they decided to go that way

LOFL you've got a point.

Space-fairing civilization with android tech vs. thundercat smurfs with spears.

Very tough call.

Thunder.... thunder.... thunder..... THUNDERSMURF, HOOOO!

Posted by: Entropy at November 14, 2009 10:00 PM (cok/k)

76 It's just Fern Gulley with violence. Same plot, same fairy tale characters, same bad guy (evil resource exploiters) it's just more liberal propaganda disguised as entertainment.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 14, 2009 10:01 PM (uy0ON)

77 I do have a prediction, though.

This movie will easily do $200 million the first weekend.

But that will only recoup the marketing budget.

Posted by: someguy at November 14, 2009 10:01 PM (VRJIW)

#53 I liked "Glory" because it actually treated its subject using the morals of that day, not those of today. And its about a subject that isn't taught at all any more.

Of course thats been around 20 years now

Posted by: Oldcat at November 14, 2009 10:02 PM (KuxzT)

79 Like I said, the movie looks like "Fern Gulley" with Violence.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 14, 2009 10:03 PM (uy0ON)

80 67

<blockquote>So these losers have the technology to take a military combat team, including crippled guys to the stars, but not enough to do drive a mineshaft a few hundred yards sideways under the village to get the pretty rocks. Or to blow their asses up in 20 seconds if they decided to go that way.</blockquote>

Exactly!

Which is why this is so whacked. They have the ability to make mechs, and transfer minds into clones but they can't get this kid legs? What the hell? We can clone their dna, combine it with our own, but we can't bio-engineer a virus to wipe them out?

Also, why the hell are we mining anything in the future? At the rate our nanotech is going, in 50 years all we'll need is a sample and we could literally replicate tons of the stuff on a molecular printer.

It's not scifi, it's liberal porn.

Posted by: Travis at November 14, 2009 10:08 PM (/dwvd)

81 What everyone else said, but you did miss one of the Hollywood cliches that I detest the most: Our Hero and Our Heroine hate each other at first, in this case even fight against each other, and then come to realize that they're in love. Insert all accompanying cliched scenes they have to go through to get there. Blech.

Posted by: CraigC at November 14, 2009 10:12 PM (IWddE)

82 Wow, that looks like seventeen kinds of crap.

James Cameron's slogan should be "No Good Movies since 1994".

And honestly, if you say "Oh boy, this movie has Michelle Rodriguez", you should probably be seeing a team of doctors.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 14, 2009 10:14 PM (I/dT5)

Well they COULD get him legs, as the trailer states, its just that legs are the bribe to get the dumb ol' marine to work against the smurfs in the first place. And he will herocially give them up to defeat the baddies, doubtlessly ending up in his own smurf body so he can do the nasty with smurfette.

Also, most primitve societies have very little attachment to any particular spot - in fact most move on regularly to avoid overfarming any particular patch of land. So a few strings of wampum should get your pretty rocks for you.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 14, 2009 10:18 PM (KuxzT)

84 #81 Thats not even a Hollyword Cliche - that's part of your basic bodice ripper romance story obstacle to keep the page count above 100.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 14, 2009 10:20 PM (KuxzT)

85 Boy gets Alien.

Boy loses Alien.

Boy gets Alien back.

Posted by: eman at November 14, 2009 10:28 PM (qPFP/)

86 63- Yeah, HH, good plots are the ones that are remembered. I actually enjoyed the Robin Williams dramas(the non-comedies) like What Dreams and Being Human, even Dead Poets before the end got all predictably anti-establishmentarian.

70- Nickless, My cardinal rule for scripts in general: �Never let common sense get in the way of plot development.�

Posted by: NickLevi86 at November 14, 2009 10:30 PM (CkMFk)

87 Boy gets alien / Boy loses alien / Boy gets alien back / Alien plants larva in boy's chest.

Posted by: RNB at November 14, 2009 10:32 PM (WkjqG)

88 I'll stay home and watch LOST re-runs on streaming Netflix, thanks.

At least that had some plot twists I didn't see coming a mile away.

Posted by: goy at November 14, 2009 10:44 PM (+Gze8)

89 And honestly, if you say "Oh boy, this movie has Michelle Rodriguez", you should probably be seeing a team of doctors.

Looks like Michelle saw a team of doctors. Cosmetic surgeons. Look at those horrific, asymmetrical eyebrows that swoop up off of her supraorbital ridges.

http://tinyurl.com/ybdxdnf

Who the hell decided that eyebrow lifts make you look like a nubile?

Posted by: Hypogean at November 14, 2009 10:44 PM (cVJwC)

90 Cameron's next project involves sending a robotic killing machine back in time to avert his ex-wife's birth and ends up writing his entire career out of history.

Posted by: nickless at November 14, 2009 10:54 PM (MMC8r)

91 Waterhouse, if you thought "True Lies" was good, you're more forgiving a critic than I.

Posted by: Zimriel at November 14, 2009 10:57 PM (dIsdd)

92 ANTI-IRAQ WAR ALLEGORY...???

Posted by: reliapundit at November 14, 2009 11:02 PM (UhYZh)

93 Poor Malor, he posts a trailer that he raves about and tells everyone he's going to be there and the whole place throws rotten eggs and fruit at him!

I admit I'm a sucker for the special effects - the floating islands remind me of Roger Dean's Yes album covers.

But probably won't see it if it turns out to be White Man Running Evil Corporation To Kill And Rape Land Of Indigenous Aliens. That's a little tired.

Posted by: Def Leppard at November 14, 2009 11:03 PM (hIOnV)

94 Well most of the eggs and fruit are being tossed at the movie. Gabe is mostly getting gasps of incredulity.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 14, 2009 11:10 PM (KuxzT)

Titanic?

The ship sinks.

Posted by: N. O'Brain at November 14, 2009 11:18 PM (RbtXl)

96 Don't forget Squanto:

http://bit.ly/4n6GX6

Posted by: Retired Geezer at November 14, 2009 11:32 PM (331DO)

97 People who like kick-ass SF movies will be watching 'Terminator' years from now. 'Avatar' is destined to show up on the sale rack at Best Buy, packaged in a two-DVD set with 'Final Fantasy.'

Probably true, but in the meantime it'll make hundreds of millions of dollars. Betcha it puts up Titanic-like numbers. And if it doesn't they'll say "Americans don't like Science Fiction, so we should spend the next decade making gay vampire movies."

I'm thinkin' what would really be cool is if these blue things reproduce by shoving an egg down your throat and having the young erupt from your belly. That would make this movie watchable.

Posted by: Ace's liver at November 14, 2009 11:32 PM (LtIsn)

98 Really? Titanic? Um, okay. (Still haven't seen it, BTW.)

And I hope you thank God for that every single day. It was 3 hours of pure torture.

Posted by: Mandy P. at November 14, 2009 11:33 PM (MK6Kx)

99 Smurf yeah, baby!

Avatar's gonna smurf!

Cameron's gonna smurf that smurfin smurf. Take that to the smurf.

Smurf!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Hollywood Smurf at November 14, 2009 11:59 PM (HylJ6)

100 @93
I too feel kinda bad about the reception Gabe's enthusiasm has gotten here. It reminds me of the discussions on the SGU threads (at least until last week's, I'm behind a couple of episodes, so haven't been reading). Unfortunately, the whole Evil-White-Guys-attack-morally-superior-clearly-nonwhite-tribals thing is a major turn-off for me.

But it should make a decent video game.

Posted by: Methos at November 15, 2009 12:02 AM (rzT1s)

101 But are there any blue alien tits & ass?

I guess I will wait for free movie Monday at Redbox DVD for this blues clues movie.

Posted by: Sgt. Rock at November 15, 2009 12:04 AM (2jp4I)

102 Twist ending? After helping the blue aliens to defeat the humans, he finds out they aren't indigenous. They came to the planet and wiped out the even more peace loving people and stole their land.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at November 15, 2009 12:20 AM (y29/1)

103

Why wouldn't they mention the biggest box office hit of all time in the trailer?

The trailer is kind of meh, considering this is supposed to be a groundbreaking film. I'll see it, though. I like most of Cameron's movies.

Posted by: RSR at November 15, 2009 12:23 AM (4mBS8)

104 James Cameron can eat the peanuts out of my shit. This is just more liberal Hollywood douchebaggery disguised as a sci-fi epic.

Posted by: packsoldier at November 15, 2009 12:28 AM (uA0/k)

105 I too feel kinda bad about the reception Gabe's enthusiasm has gotten here. It reminds me of the discussions on the SGU threads (at least until last week's, I'm behind a couple of episodes, so haven't been reading). Unfortunately, the whole Evil-White-Guys-attack-morally-superior-clearly-nonwhite-tribals thing is a major turn-off for me.

Seriously. Don't feel bad. I simply don't understand people who can't just shut the fuck up and watch a movie or a tv show. It's always gotta be about their politics. And they do go on and on and on about it. Oy.

But that's not spoilin' my fun!

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at November 15, 2009 02:30 AM (Mi2wf)

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Posted by: Cameron's Downfall at November 15, 2009 02:33 AM (cnbQm)

107 I simply don't understand people who can't just shut the fuck up and watch a movie or a tv show.

I simply don't understand people who are entertained by horrendous pieces of shit. But I don't tell them to shut the fuck up.

Posted by: Hypogean at November 15, 2009 02:46 AM (cVJwC)

108 So how come we never see a happy liberal millionaire?

Mostly because assholes like George Soros tend to look a lot like bleeding warts; not exactly photogenic - also, in large part, because "happy liberal", whether millionaire or not, is pretty much an oxymoron.

In any event - it's a movie, people...don't like, don't buy, simple as that.

I don't care for anime, either - but I don't waste time decrying the "downfall of the genre of film" because someone else is all over the stuff. Nor do I generally wipe my feet on somebody else's hallway rug for their enthusiasm for something I consider dreck.

Yes, this story's been done (and quite possibly better) before. If you simply must be disdainful, at least be somewhat graceful about it, and then go calmly on your way.

As to Cameron: Every movie-maker makes some junk; some of them make good stuff, too. Opinions vary, often enough, as to which is which.

Posted by: J.S.Bridges at November 15, 2009 04:03 AM (ZA3Fq)

109 Heheh, a lot of the haters will end up watching this movie because their wives or girlfriends liked Titanic and will want to see this. Don't be fronting.

Posted by: BoutrosBoutros at November 15, 2009 04:45 AM (+Xync)

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Three Words.

Hood. Versus. Evil. 10 January, it's on.

(Oh, yes, as to the non-Titanic-viewing thing, join the club. We should rent one of those small airport shuttle busses and we can have a rolling meeting with plenty of elbow room).

Posted by: Stephen at November 15, 2009 07:37 AM (YoO+e)

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Piranha II: The Spawning. For real. http://tinyurl.com/y96ehr2

Posted by: Steve the Pirate at November 15, 2009 07:47 AM (swmP8)

112 28 The helicopters are straight out of The Incredibles Roughnecks: Starship Troopers.

Fixed. So are the power suits, which look like clunkier knockoffs of the Roughnecks Marauder heavy weapons suits or the yellow e-frame from Exo-Squad.

As for the rest of the arguments, CGI is overdone, but is nice when used appropriately and/or sparingly (seeing that less and less anymore). The plot looks rehashed a trillion times over...also a bit dumb. If the avatars are remotely controlled, why don't they just unplug him instead of letting him lead a revolt?

The biggie that I've heard with Avatar is that they're using some new form of 3d for the Omnimax screenings that's more true to actual depth perception than the current stuff, so that everything looks 3d instead of a shot/sequence or two here and there that's obviously trying to showcase foreshortening (see the rider with the spear scene in the 3d Beowulf from a few years ago for a big example of that), while the rest of the movie doesn't have enough depth to give that 3d feel.

Posted by: Ranba Ral at November 15, 2009 08:33 AM (atxR0)

113 Also: Titanic. If you watch it, fast-forward to the last 20-30 minutes, when the ship starts to sink. You'll only really miss Leonardo DiCaprio and the girl whining about class differences and her arranged marriage to upper class douche of the year.

Posted by: Ranba Ral at November 15, 2009 08:35 AM (atxR0)

114 I get the feeling that James Cameron was playing World of Warcraft and said "Hey! I just got an idea for a crappy $300 million movie!"

Posted by: Crusty at November 15, 2009 08:50 AM (qzgbP)

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I'm supposed to feel sorry for people who's real estate values have gone through the roof?

Posted by: Cincinnatus at November 15, 2009 08:54 AM (f4sLg)

116 Won't be watching. Story has been done sooooooooooo many times before, it is old and tired. For great computer graphics and violent action without the liberal politics just pick up one of the latest first person shooter games and control the plot yourself.

Posted by: ray at November 15, 2009 09:42 AM (9+P9E)

117 Why would you want to see this obviously anti-American piece of shit?

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Posted by: RTH615 at November 15, 2009 09:53 AM (J94wL)

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TITANIC

Guess what, the water inside the ship is just as cold as the water outside the ship.

Grim

Posted by: Grim at November 15, 2009 10:28 AM (hLWio)

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Posted by: clutch cargo at November 15, 2009 10:35 AM (ucFNd)

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There could yet be a hope for this blog.

3 years on, this kind of smurfy tripe will be generated on teh interwebs in one afternoon or less. Cameron vastly overpaid... but it could not happen to a nicer guy.
Curious, though, how will Ridley Scott respond.

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I know I'm alone in this, but I thought "The Terminator" was Cameron's best film, and one of the true great movies, and it's all been downhill ever since.

And Cameron stole that plot from Harlan Ellison.

That said, Cameron's made some decent flicks, but he's since suffered from falling in love with himself and is more interested in telling stories he wants to tell instead of telling stories others want to hear. He seems to think that, since he suckered people with "Titanic" and its ridiculous plot by dressing it up with spectacular CGI, he can do the same with even MORE CGI.

Problem is, this CGI looks like real garbage. The Super Smurfs look completely fake as does Pandora. OTOH, in "Titanic" most of the time you couldn't tell the CGI from the live action, and I think that, if you could, then it wouldn't have been the blockbuster it was.

Admittedly, I would see if if the effects looked better, but they really just look like your typical video game and I can see that at home.

I would also see it if the plot would be engaging, but this movie fails there, too. Absolutely, it looks like PC liberal crap which is bad enough, but what bothers me more about it is the fact that the story has been told over and over, to a point beyond cliche'.

Compare that to "Silent Running," which was PC liberal crap, too, but it's a great film; it was original, engaging, and heart breaking. And really, while the PC nonsense was the setup, the actual story was about Bruce Dern's struggle with loneliness and his own conscience, so the message I got from the movie wasn't "Humans are destroying the Earth," but rather, "How would I handle that kind of seclusion?"

I don't think this movie is going to have anything much deeper than Michelle's Rodriguez' cup size. Like I said in a previous thread, I hope Cameron loses a fortune.

Posted by: barbelle at November 15, 2009 12:29 PM (qF8q3)

126

Oh, and "The Abyss" BLEW. Hard. Not even Ed Harris in a wet t-shirt could save that wreck.

But I will say this about that film; the gadgets were cool. Cameron does know a lot about aqua-tech. The underwater effects were awesome, too, mainly because most of them were NOT CGI.

Posted by: barbelle at November 15, 2009 12:39 PM (qF8q3)

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Or Half-Life.

Posted by: flashbazzbo, s.e. at November 15, 2009 01:36 PM (x7MwC)

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That's a plus? Was Jeremy Piven unavailable?

Posted by: Rocks at November 15, 2009 01:39 PM (MTcoh)

129 Really, Malor?

The evil, eeeevil military guy calmly drinking a cup of coffee while slaughtering natives from the cockpit of his gunship isn't everything you need to know about this movie in a nutshell?

Jiggle some shiny shit in front of your face and you dive right after it. I thought you were smarter than that.

Posted by: apotheosis at November 15, 2009 01:54 PM (xWk3U)

130

Meh... I don't dislike this or SGU because of politics.

I dislike it because it looks like is sucks ass.

I am truly perplexed by many things people marvel at in terms of 'graphics'. It looks so great, or whatever.

Have you people not seen CGI before?

It's not even well done. It really does look like a videogame. I'm just left wondering how many people have their minds blown away by screensavers.

Posted by: Entropy at November 15, 2009 02:00 PM (cok/k)

131 What the hell happened to the 'V' thread anyway? Bastards let me down... I forgot what day it was on and now I have to watch it online.

Posted by: Entropy at November 15, 2009 02:11 PM (cok/k)

132 Guys, guys. Chill on the movie. They have'nt even released the first of several computer game adaptations, and Burger King is'nt even giving away Avatar toys in it's happy meals yet. Rumor has it, they're barely discussing the sequel at this stage.

Posted by: DngrMse at November 15, 2009 02:16 PM (wynRm)

133 Why is this being billed as some kind of breakthrough film? I watched the trailer. The landscapes look cool, but the aliens suck. Like, Dark Crystal elf people suck.

And that before I even turn to the plot.

Posted by: S. Weasel at November 15, 2009 02:34 PM (wzSL4)

134 Weasel, see my earlier comment about the "ZOMG NEW VERSION OF IN THEATER 3D" thing.

Posted by: Ranba Ral at November 15, 2009 03:09 PM (atxR0)

135 Gabe complains "Why does everything have to be about politics? Why can't you just watch the show?" Well, when the show itself is itself political, it becomes hard to avoid. It's the equivalent of saying, "Why can't you laugh at Janeane Garafolo's jokes, man? Why do you have to get all political about it?"

I've seen a lot of movies whose politics I disagreed with, but were really good movies, but this can't possibly be one of them. Cameron has telegraphed in the trailer that the movie is going to be one long calculated insult to Western Civilization and he is going to hammer his guilt ridden theme home. I can't watch two hours of cultural self-flagellation, and that's really Cameron's fault, not mine.

Posted by: caspera at November 15, 2009 03:47 PM (pK+Zi)

136 So, is Cameron a Furry? Should I grit my teeth and expect to suffer through a yiffing scene?

Posted by: Mephistefales at November 15, 2009 03:56 PM (pQZnF)

137 Also, I can proudly say that I haven't seen Titanic either.

Posted by: Mephiatefales at November 15, 2009 03:59 PM (pQZnF)

138 I've never seen Titanic either.

Posted by: Entropy at November 15, 2009 04:05 PM (cok/k)

139 Gabe, I didn't even know the plot until I read descriptions of it right here... The movie looks epic stupid.

The trailer has to remind the audience of Cameron's cinematic lineage to lure them in because the actual movie makes them go "what the fuck was that?!?"

Posted by: DoDoGuRu at November 15, 2009 07:48 PM (Xdxf8)

140 Anything the libs of hollywood put out, james cameron, ughhhh! I will pass and let them get their monies from someone that will put another communist oh-mama in to office! Their not getting this conservatives money!

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I'm with you on that for the most part. I thought The Terminator was a really good film, not great and every Terminator incarnation afterward has lessoned the original.

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