Good News: Iran Working On High Tech Nuclear Warhead Designs UPDATE: Obama Finally Sets Precondition For Meeting

Because warhead design is an integral part of a 'peaceful civilian' nuclear plan.

The report is from that hotbed of neo-con warmongering, the Guardian.

The very existence of the technology, known as a "two-point implosion" device, is officially secret in both the US and Britain, but according to previously unpublished documentation in a dossier compiled by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Iranian scientists may have tested high-explosive components of the design. The development was today described by nuclear experts as "breathtaking" and has added urgency to the effort to find a diplomatic solution to the Iranian nuclear crisis.
The sophisticated technology, once mastered, allows for the production of smaller and simpler warheads than older models. It reduces the diameter of a warhead and makes it easier to put a nuclear warhead on a missile.

But don't worry, Captain Smart Diplomacy is on the case.

Related enough:

Good News! Obama finally requires pre-conditions and promise of concessions before meeting with world leader.

Bad news....It's Bibi Netanyahu.

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1 It reduces the diameter of a warhead and makes it easier to put a nuclear warhead on a missile.

Or maybe, the back of a truck.

Posted by: CUS at November 06, 2009 05:05 PM (wOGfT)

2 I mentioned this over at Doubleplusundead. A 'two point implosion' device is a very simple and compact design. It is commonly used to make very small nuclear weapons, so called 'suitcase nukes'. All they need is the Plutonium.

Posted by: Jeff M at November 06, 2009 05:07 PM (8P3+x)

Iran is jumping from the basics straight to a more advanced design, and without even demonstrating that they've mastered attained the basics.

With any luck, this will fail and cost them a few years and piles of money.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 06, 2009 05:07 PM (Ym9lj)

4 Well, the program is for peaceful purposes, so no wor--

[Bursts out laughing]

No, even I can't do that one. Talk to me later.

Posted by: Baghdad Bob, Iran's new spokesman at November 06, 2009 05:08 PM (RD7QR)

5 Would it be possible to format the ads so they don't cover the title of the posts?

Posted by: BuckNutty at November 06, 2009 05:08 PM (ZY6M2)

With any luck, this will fail and cost them a few years and piles of money.

You want them to fail? Racist!

Posted by: DNC at November 06, 2009 05:09 PM (VmtE9)

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Posted by: Maureen Dowde at November 06, 2009 05:10 PM (Xdxf8)

8 A smaller missile on a boat too?

In the end, there will be only chaos.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at November 06, 2009 05:10 PM (otlXg)

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Posted by: CUS at November 06, 2009 05:10 PM (wOGfT)

10 But to use nuclear warheads could be suicidal. Good thing there's no ideology in the world which embraces the suicide attack. Whew!

Posted by: Beagle at November 06, 2009 05:10 PM (sOtz/)

11
Hmmm, now which neighbor that they share a border with have a bunch of unemployed nuke engineers sitting around. I wonder...

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 06, 2009 05:10 PM (Haq+B)

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I'd like to give a shout out to my homie A.Q. Khan for making this all possible

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 06, 2009 05:11 PM (+FzLa)

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I'd like to give a shout out to those industrious Iranian mullahs for restoring science to its rightful position.

Posted by: Brack Obama at November 06, 2009 05:13 PM (jvrmc)

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Posted by: CUS at November 06, 2009 05:10 PM (wOGfT)

um yeah, you speakin' Chinese or somethin'???

Posted by: BuckNutty at November 06, 2009 05:13 PM (ZY6M2)

15 I don't appreciate your mocking tone when you speak of our President. He has the weight of the entire universe on his shoulders, and has to contend with the racism of the American people, the hatred of the rest of earth caused by eight years of Bush's fascism, yet he still has time to speak truth to power. Just look at what he has done with Fox News! How many disenfranchised black men would have the audacity to confront the evil that is Fox? None but Obama!

In the future you should show more respect for your leader.

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Posted by: CUS at November 06, 2009 05:18 PM (wOGfT)

17 "added urgency to the effort to find a diplomatic solution to the Iranian nuclear crisis."

There is only one diplomatic solution: Let them have the bomb.

Any other solution will involve a great deal more than diplomacy.

Posted by: notropis at November 06, 2009 05:18 PM (hBk5l)

18 These aren't the two-point implosion devices you're looking.

Posted by: Your No-Nonsense MSM at November 06, 2009 05:19 PM (J5Srq)

19 In the future you should show more respect for your leader.

Posted by: NJprogressive at November 06, 2009 05:13 PM (/Ywwg)

I'll wipe my ass with his respect.

Posted by: Blazer at November 06, 2009 05:20 PM (+FzLa)

NJ...needs more mispelled words and EXCLAMATION POINTS!

Example:

"Hahah Racist Rethuglicans getting a little chickenz in the roost, why don't you go cry on Rushes shoulder...wahhh the big bad Iran is gonna get me!"

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Posted by: CUS at November 06, 2009 05:18 PM (wOGfT)

I'm at work. I don't think I can do that here. Thanks for offering help

Posted by: BuckNutty at November 06, 2009 05:22 PM (ZY6M2)

22 So what, we have nukes and Israel dies too.

Posted by: Left winger at November 06, 2009 05:23 PM (DxJAb)

23 The Iranians have obtained cutting-edge nuclear weapons technology? Awesome!

Obama? Awesome!

Posted by: OregonMuse at November 06, 2009 05:25 PM (eR37w)

Nothing to worry about, people. They're just researching a new drink delivery device for me.

Posted by: Frank Reynolds at November 06, 2009 05:26 PM (VmtE9)

25 They're just a little country, so they need little nukes.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 06, 2009 05:27 PM (VmtE9)

26 It is commonly used to make very small nuclear weapons, so called 'suitcase nukes'.

Orly?

Posted by: Ace's #1 Fan at November 06, 2009 05:27 PM (SHKl9)

27 So what, we have nukes and Israel dies too.

Posted by: Freudian Slippery when wet at November 06, 2009 05:27 PM (4Kl5M)

28 Good to see the Shia (Iran) and the Sunni (Obama) getting along so well.

/Peace in our time!

Posted by: shibumi at November 06, 2009 05:29 PM (OKZrE)

29 "added urgency to the effort to find a diplomatic solution to the Iranian nuclear crisis."

There is only one diplomatic solution: Let them have the bomb.

Any other solution will involve a great deal more than diplomacy.

Posted by: notropis at November 06, 2009 05:18 PM (hBk5l)

Then we can let them have Israel for the same reason.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 06, 2009 05:30 PM (xxgag)

30 OT. But satisfying. Heh.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 06, 2009 05:31 PM (OkT2m)

So what, we have nukes and Israel dies too.

And I'm working really hard to remedy the first part. The second part, I'm fine with....

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 06, 2009 05:32 PM (VmtE9)

32 Why are you wingers so threatened? So what they get nukes we have em too I don't see you bitching

Posted by: Left winger at November 06, 2009 05:33 PM (cGmsL)

33

I'd like to give a shout out to Tel Aviv, while its still there.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 06, 2009 05:36 PM (+FzLa)

34 Hey, good news: Sleeper Agent-in-Chief Soetero is icing international interdiction efforts (to the extent they even exist) long enough for the advent of the Islamic Bomb for which he prays. We're all screwed. Can we at least go out on our own terms a'a la Chuck Heston at the end of Beneath the Planet of the Apes (or was it that rat bastard James Franciscus?)?

Posted by: Slade at November 06, 2009 05:40 PM (saiGq)

35 Not to worry. The White House has released a report indicating that national security experts who were investigating MAJ Hasan believe that the Iranian interest in a two-point implosion device is limited to their long-standing public interest in making a very energetic pinata.

Posted by: Chrissy Matthews at November 06, 2009 05:50 PM (23qwD)

36 Want to bet that Bibi no longer gives a fucking rat's ass what Barry "wants".

Posted by: GarandFan at November 06, 2009 05:53 PM (ZQBnQ)

37 Aye, and perhaps the Islamic Bomb is designed to merely give us the requisite thrill up our longitude?

Posted by: Slade at November 06, 2009 05:55 PM (saiGq)

38 So, before JugEars will talk to Bibi, he wants "something in return".

I vote for the gift of an IPod with Bibi's greatest speeches....in Hebrew.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 06, 2009 06:02 PM (r8/Km)

Our Manchurian Preznit has one official statement about the two-point implosion device and its place in the Islamic Bomb: ""Give praise to the Almighty Bomb and the Holy Fallout,"

Posted by: Slade at November 06, 2009 06:04 PM (saiGq)

40 Time for a more robust debate.

Posted by: Obama's sphincter pucker at November 06, 2009 06:13 PM (wAQA5)

41 Pretty much every nuke that is in a weapon now has a two-point design. 'One-point safe' is a term I heard and didn't understand until I found out that a two-point detonation is how pretty much all nukes initiate implosion -- you can set off one point (fire, crash, accident) and detonate the conventional explosives without causing a nuclear explosion. It takes two simultaneous detonations to shape the explosive wave to properly compress the plutonium and get nuclear fission as a result.

Suitcase nukes are small and tricky to build, I wouldn't worry about those as much as I would worry about the implications of Iran actually being able to arm their missiles with reliable nuclear weapons that are small enough to be delivered. Saying that they are "skipping generations" in nuke weapon design may seem surprising, but implosion of plutonium is now 64 year-old technology. Knowing that two-point implosion works puts you halfway to being able to do it, given clever and motivated physicists and engineers.

Suitcase nukes mess up tens of city blocks. EMP weapons paralyze countries. If you have a reliable nuclear detonation system, which seems like a better application of finite resources?

Posted by: Darren at November 06, 2009 06:14 PM (PntkJ)

42 It's not really a two-point two-point implosion device.

Posted by: Whoopi at November 06, 2009 06:17 PM (wAQA5)

43 40 Time for a more robust debate waffles.

FIFY

Posted by: shibumi at November 06, 2009 06:23 PM (OKZrE)

I wonder why Opie told us not to jump to any conclusions about our Muzz Major?

I mean the guy was quoted as shouting ALLAHU AKBAR as he murdered.

But NO CONCLUSIONS CAN BE DRAWN.

Posted by: gus at November 06, 2009 06:27 PM (Vqruj)

45 Well, the Wikipedia article filled in a few points my Life Science Library book left out. A few banana peels in Mr. Fusion is all it takes.

(We are so screwed)

Posted by: AE at November 06, 2009 06:34 PM (kSfPT)

46 Hey, if people several decades from now - when I'm blessedly no longer in this Veil of Tears - want to commit cultural and moral suicide... good for them.

Glad I won't be here for it.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 06, 2009 07:18 PM (QECjC)

muslims with nukes. What could go wrong?

Posted by: Cicero at November 06, 2009 07:20 PM (QKKT0)

48 You know, this whole damned affair of traitors killing Americans is getting awfully old. Let's reverse that process and see some Americans killing traitors. I leave as an exercise to the reader to determine where to start.

Posted by: mac at November 06, 2009 08:37 PM (gSYTw)

How long can a Commander-in-Chief talk, talk .......talk ..........talk....

with the enemy, and NOT be accused of bloviating to the American

people? Whatta ya think, MSNBC? CBS? NPR? ABC?...........?

Posted by: Trajan at November 06, 2009 08:47 PM (xq+9b)

Hope & Change........geeeeze, let's get the sledge hammer out! This arugula-

Wagyu beef eating first family, with "tiny dancer" Rahm, Bumbling Gibbsy

and "The Axe", Axelrod riding shotgun should be challenged at every level.

Nancy is an ANATHEMA to the majority. Yet she runs the show. This

will not stand, for long. She'll be 70 next year. Obamacare may limit her

hormone replacement options.

Posted by: Trajan at November 06, 2009 09:21 PM (xq+9b)

51 We are so very screwed...

Posted by: John G. at November 06, 2009 11:16 PM (j4xgZ)

52 The Kenyan's 'plan' is to tread water until he is out of office. No different than Bush or Clinton or Bush.

Posted by: torabora at November 07, 2009 05:53 AM (yq3Ae)

53 #52, The "Kenyon" will be faced with making a choice, after BiBi makes glass out of Iran. "What to do? what to do? Guess I'll have a beer, and talk to somebody. Don't jump to conclusions."

Posted by: jfalcon, the bewildered at November 07, 2009 07:50 AM (omGgx)

54 Why are they enriching uranium if they're building an implosion device?

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