"V" Thread

On ABC, now.

West-Coasters should probably not read if they're worried about spoilers.

Though how big a spoiler could be contained in the pilot of a remake of an episodic tv show I don't know.

Let me blow one for you right now: The Visitors are not what they pretend to be.

Posted by: Ace at 08:12 PM

Comments

1 Hah, I thought "V" stood for Virginia.

Posted by: pajama momma at November 03, 2009 08:14 PM (W2yhR)

2 Elizabeth Mitchell = hot

V's- eh.

Posted by: Jay at November 03, 2009 08:16 PM (ZxE4n)

3
Flaming Vagina?

Posted by: Tweet O'Rly? at November 03, 2009 08:16 PM (v77ig)

4 Hawt!

Posted by: toby928: Please don't eat me at November 03, 2009 08:16 PM (PD1tk)

5 No, I learned with the first one that "V" stands for bad television show.

Posted by: somejoe at November 03, 2009 08:16 PM (mYI46)

6 Meh, I'm glad Morena Baccarin got a job, but I have no real interest past that.

Posted by: kefka at November 03, 2009 08:16 PM (n1uMU)

7 "V" stands for "bagina."

Posted by: The Most Hirsute Man In the World (rdb) at November 03, 2009 08:16 PM (Nv1dM)

8 The Visitors are not what they pretend to be.

--What are you implying???

Posted by: President 0bama at November 03, 2009 08:16 PM (I3Udb)

9 She is still smoking hot, but she defaced a goddamn Wonder of the World when she cut that hair.

Posted by: Entropy at November 03, 2009 08:17 PM (cok/k)

10 Not bad so far. I'm going to love looking for Obamazoid parallels --and, I hope, finding them. . . .

Posted by: logprof at November 03, 2009 08:17 PM (I3Udb)

11 Where are the bad chix with big hair and red suits?

Posted by: The Most Hirsute Man In the World (rdb) at November 03, 2009 08:19 PM (Nv1dM)

"I think we can rule out suicide"

That's sloppy police work right there.

Remember, dude who played Wash, asumptions make an ass out of u and me.

And get your ass back in your wheelchair, you uppity cripple.

Posted by: Entropy at November 03, 2009 08:21 PM (cok/k)

13 Sucks here in Green Bay, dang local ABC station WBAY is showing some lame Packers show. Looks like they'll play the show tomorrow but bummer for me now.

Gah I hate the Packers. Go Cowboys !!!

Posted by: blindgoose at November 03, 2009 08:22 PM (hZOQ8)

14 Why do 93.5% of all child actors have to be annoying?

Posted by: The Most Hirsute Man In the World (rdb) at November 03, 2009 08:23 PM (Nv1dM)

15 I don't have a TV, so I'll just have to presume the remake sucks, cuz all remakes generally suck.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 03, 2009 08:23 PM (FIQYC)

16
Movie Review

Red (200

Starring Brian Cox. It's about a man and his dog. And a bunch of assholes. I don't want to give too much away but it's Old Yeller meets Roadhouse meets Gran Torino.

I liked it because it the movie did something very rare, nowadays: It told a story. It was like reading a novel. Everything unfolded perfectly. It isn't a feel-good movie, that's for sure. But it's a good story with good acting. No frills.

I give it a solid 7.5 out of 10 stars.

Posted by: Tweet O'Rly? at November 03, 2009 08:24 PM (v77ig)

Let me blow one for you right now: The Visitors are not what they pretend to be.

Posted by: Ace

Whaaa? Next you're going to tell us that Obama isn't a competent centrist.
(And no, you don't have to blow anything for us...(Man, you're just tee-ing them up for us. aren't you?))

Posted by: Iskandar at November 03, 2009 08:25 PM (u1pln)

18 Youth Ambassadors Program? What does that sound like?

Posted by: jimmytheleg at November 03, 2009 08:25 PM (Y9rN5)

19 VAV! VIPEE! VAHOO!

Posted by: Salem at November 03, 2009 08:26 PM (86rbG)

20 The Visitors are not what they pretend to be.

Fuck you, Mr. Spoiler.

Posted by: DelD at November 03, 2009 08:26 PM (DYh0l)

21
oh, and DOOM (2005) starring The Rock.

Doom was pretty entertaining. It's like John Carpenter's Ghost of Mars but a little better.

^{Ghost of Mars was a good sci-fi/horror popcorn flick, so shaddup yous.}

Posted by: Tweet O'Rly? at November 03, 2009 08:27 PM (v77ig)

22 I don't trust them.

Posted by: Smapty at November 03, 2009 08:27 PM (bAySe)

23 HOPE! He said "Hope"!

Posted by: katya at November 03, 2009 08:27 PM (RbvF+)

24 Graffiti art spreads hope!

Posted by: jimmytheleg at November 03, 2009 08:28 PM (Y9rN5)

25 Why does there have to be a troubled single mother in every movie these days?

Posted by: tom_06060 at November 03, 2009 08:28 PM (t8Np3)

Meh.

Show kinda jumped the shark at 7:21. It's clear the writers have run out of ideas.

Posted by: Entropy at November 03, 2009 08:29 PM (cok/k)

27 so they FIRED the executive producer Thursday!!! and replaced him with..wait for it, the producer of NBC GE show Chuck! then after the rave review that ran in Miami and Chicago in which the comparison to Obama Hopium was stressed and the critic really enjoyed it, the NYT 'brutally' ripped the show in its review today

as suspected the idiots at the network are trying tio make a kinder gentler fascist alien invasion to avoid Obama comparisons

they will ruin the show

Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at November 03, 2009 08:29 PM (BP8ea)

Why does there have to be a troubled single mother in every movie these days?

It's empowering.

Posted by: Entropy at November 03, 2009 08:30 PM (cok/k)

Why does there have to be a troubled single mother in every movie these days?

To take care of the obligatory annoying adolescent.

Posted by: The Most Hirsute Man In the World (rdb) at November 03, 2009 08:31 PM (Nv1dM)

30 Why do 93.5% of all child actors have to be annoying?

*points at The Most Hirsute Man in the World

You're a very bad man! And you keep thinking bad thoughts about me!

Posted by: Anthony Fremont at November 03, 2009 08:32 PM (W2yhR)

Well, Chuck was not a bad show.

We'll see.

So far so good. Shows more promise then Stargate: Suck.

Posted by: Entropy at November 03, 2009 08:32 PM (cok/k)

32 SciFi (I refuse to spell it incorrectly) had a marathon of the original two miniseries and season on Sunday afternoon and I watched a lot of it for the first time in twenty something years. Some of the stuff was a little hokey (in particular the ending of the second miniseries) but all in all it held up okay. I doubt I'll watch much if any of the remake, who knows.

I don't think a show like this can last for too many seasons, eventually, you want to know if the good guys win. I'm still surprised that the networks haven't stolen the telenovela concept from Latin America, because I think V as a concept would work pretty well as a one or two season series.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at November 03, 2009 08:32 PM (gHzxf)

And come on! It's got 2 cast members of Firefly and 1 cast member of Lost.

I really want to like this.

Posted by: Entropy at November 03, 2009 08:33 PM (cok/k)

34 They've already laid one cool foundation: The totally awesome amounts of handy c-4 foundation.

Posted by: The Most Hirsute Man In the World (rdb) at November 03, 2009 08:36 PM (Nv1dM)

Why does there have to be a troubled single mother in every movie these days?

Because they are so much wiser than dads or a mom who is still (gasp) married to the dad.

Posted by: katya at November 03, 2009 08:36 PM (RbvF+)

My husband's all pissed that I asked him if he noticed any similarities to real life in V. When I told him, he thinks that's why I'm watching it. he's right.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 03, 2009 08:36 PM (MqcAZ)

37 not bad so far ... they see to be avoiding the "Scientist" boogeyman that kept tripping me up when I watched the original this weekend (enjoyed the show, but damned if it didn't devour a beautiful Sunday for me).

Posted by: mr bitterness at November 03, 2009 08:38 PM (H7L0D)

38 Seems a little rushed at this point. Good to see their press corp is as bad as ours; more realistic that way.

Posted by: Sean at November 03, 2009 08:38 PM (PM78L)

39 Didn't Brian Dennehy already kick these guys asses?

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at November 03, 2009 08:39 PM (mcbkO)

40 'Chuck' jumped the sharked early on for me when it decided to use a really well known arcade game, Missile Command, and make it into a plot element including a fake company and programmer behind the game. Guys, instead of reassigning credit for something whose creators are still alive and their history well documented, make up your own game. A mock-up of an old 8-bit game wouldn't have cost that much.

They did annoying crap like that on that show a lot. The only reason I saw it after the first few episodes was that my Geek Squad employee brother had to see it.

Posted by: epobirs at November 03, 2009 08:39 PM (KMSYd)

41 This is going to be fun. I hope they don't ruin it so as not to upset the man-child President.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 03, 2009 08:40 PM (MqcAZ)

42 V=O

Posted by: RicardoVerde at November 03, 2009 08:40 PM (PBTsv)

43 Here it comes, wait for it......ethical journalist thinking about ethics. Love it.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 03, 2009 08:41 PM (MqcAZ)

"We can't be seen in a negative light, this interview is over."

That was BO's line once wasn't it?

Posted by: IP at November 03, 2009 08:42 PM (Zn2eV)

45 Where are the bad chix with big hair and red suits?

I'm still twitching from seeing 13 seconds of the old series earlier today. Dear Lord, that was a large amount of hair.

Well, I didn't realize it started at 7pm here, so I missed the first half. So...I guess I missed the part where they think the Visitors are what they pretend to be??

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 03, 2009 08:42 PM (Be4xl)

46 The original mini-series in pre-production hired a pair of Science Fiction writers to try to make the premise believable. The producer, less than five minutes into their presentation, asked 'Why do I have to listen to this?' Meeting over.

So they took their consulting and wrote 'Footfall.' A book that still make more sense than anything Hollywood has ever put on a screen.

Posted by: epobirs at November 03, 2009 08:43 PM (KMSYd)

47 I for one welcome our new Guinea Pig eating lizard overlords.

Especially if they look like Morena Baccarin

Posted by: Grover at November 03, 2009 08:44 PM (cwK4+)

So... yes, it's about Obama, and so the suits decided to fire the guy who made it like Obama so Obama wouldn't get mad? Is that the whole gist so far?

Because I have it on DVR for later, but I'd rather give my alpaca an enema if the show is going to be shitty.

Posted by: Truman North at November 03, 2009 08:44 PM (XH/G8)

49 Wow this is the perfect show for this wonderful election night.

Posted by: jimmytheleg at November 03, 2009 08:45 PM (Y9rN5)

50 unnecessary wars? please don't let Dubya be a Visitor. That'd be a deal killer, cuz it'd show where they're coming from

Posted by: mr bitterness at November 03, 2009 08:46 PM (H7L0D)

51 Aha the revelation, it's the Vs who are responsible for the economic meltdown!

Posted by: Girl Thursday at November 03, 2009 08:46 PM (B/VPd)

52 WOW!!! Healthcare!!!

Posted by: tom_06060 at November 03, 2009 08:46 PM (t8Np3)

53 UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE!

Posted by: katya at November 03, 2009 08:46 PM (RbvF+)

54 Vs = universal healthcare

Posted by: Girl Thursday at November 03, 2009 08:47 PM (B/VPd)

55 Holy shit, Beck's going to be all over this tomorrow.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 03, 2009 08:47 PM (MqcAZ)

56 I kind of like that they're tying healthcare to the untrustworthy utopians.

Posted by: Girl Thursday at November 03, 2009 08:48 PM (B/VPd)

57 So... watch it? Or shave Mrs. North's back?

Posted by: Truman North at November 03, 2009 08:48 PM (XH/G8)

i normally don't got for this kind of stuff but it is good so far.

it does sound obama-esque

Posted by: Ben at November 03, 2009 08:49 PM (bftbi)

59 Is that Brian Williams @ the White House?

Posted by: Johnny I at November 03, 2009 08:49 PM (HO+pd)

We need "O" posters with "V" photoshopped in.

And hot chix with big hair.

Posted by: The Most Hirsute Man In the World (rdb) at November 03, 2009 08:50 PM (Nv1dM)

61 Universal health care is the ticket to the visitors taking control of humanity. Im shocked and pleased that ABC allowed that to air.

Posted by: gigg423 at November 03, 2009 08:50 PM (gaRwx)

62 do they have a book that's entitled "To Serve Man"?

good old Hollywood, always coming up with something new.

/sarc

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 03, 2009 08:50 PM (d1FhN)

63 I'd rather give my alpaca an enema

Hmm, good blog name there. "Alpaca Enema".

I'd read it. Haven't had enough to drink to say it 5 times quickly.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 03, 2009 08:51 PM (Be4xl)

64 Universal healthcare. I'm hooked.

Also the peace and love happy talk. If they don't fuck this up, this show is the perfect metaphor for the utopian statist evil that's been trying to destroy civilization for the last 80 years or so.

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66 The offerers of CD keys are not what they pretend to be.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 03, 2009 08:53 PM (Be4xl)

67 The Vs want universal healthcare. This show is too much!

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at November 03, 2009 08:54 PM (YRjsF)

68 So...the black guy is Lieberman?

Posted by: beedubya at November 03, 2009 08:54 PM (AnTyA)

69 yes watch it.

Posted by: tom_06060 at November 03, 2009 08:55 PM (t8Np3)

I dig it.

I hope to god they don't fuck it up.

Bring the lead creative guy back, please.

Posted by: Entropy at November 03, 2009 08:55 PM (cok/k)

71 "Compromising principles for the greater good"

They shoot and score.

Posted by: jimmytheleg at November 03, 2009 08:56 PM (Y9rN5)

72
hmmm, let's compare the value of endorsements

Obama, a Nobel Peace Prize winning president: 0
Sarah Palin, a conservative, wife, mother, grandmother, former governor: Priceless

Posted by: Tweet O'Rly? at November 03, 2009 08:57 PM (v77ig)

73 firefly curse strikes again ... Wash gets fragged AND is evil.

Posted by: mr bitterness at November 03, 2009 08:57 PM (H7L0D)

Here come the Hitler Youth.

Posted by: katya at November 03, 2009 08:58 PM (RbvF+)

Something tells me that it'll never last, but it's gonna be fun watching O squirm over the comparisons.

First hour done.

"tune in next week"

Posted by: IP at November 03, 2009 08:58 PM (Zn2eV)

76 DeVotion

Posted by: beedubya at November 03, 2009 08:59 PM (AnTyA)

77 "Devotion." Does sound O'Bama-ish. The producers must hate the zero man.

Posted by: The Most Hirsute Man In the World (rdb) at November 03, 2009 09:00 PM (Nv1dM)

78 Lisa the V is hot.

When that FBI agent said, "They're arming themselves with the most powerful weapon there is," I thought for sure she was going to say, "p****"

:-D

Posted by: logprof at November 03, 2009 09:00 PM (I3Udb)

79 OK, it started off kind of amateurish, but it got better in the last half hour.

Posted by: Girl Thursday at November 03, 2009 09:00 PM (B/VPd)

has anyone seen the original?

'what do the V's want with us? to eat us? that seems kinda lame. I wouldn't fly a billion light years for a good steak

Posted by: Ben at November 03, 2009 09:01 PM (bftbi)

I don't even really give a shit about the politics (although I do admire their bravery, so long as they don't chicken the fuck out and demolish their own premise).

I like good scifi. This has a lot of promise to be an intelligent scifi show. I haven't seen the original but however campy it was the premise is a good one.

Posted by: Entropy at November 03, 2009 09:02 PM (cok/k)

Something tells me that it'll never last, but it's gonna be fun watching O squirm over the comparisons.

First hour done.

"tune in next week"

yeah it will be like that other Fracking show, i can't remember the name. Where it was all pro war on terror for a year then flipped and went left wing

Posted by: Ben at November 03, 2009 09:03 PM (bftbi)

83 watch we find out the black guy who was a traitor to the V's left the V's because they were too conservative and the V's aren't a big tent party with room for pro card check and pro stimulus V's

Posted by: Ben at November 03, 2009 09:03 PM (bftbi)

84 I will at this moment put down a $10 bet that, since the Visitors were offering universal healthcare, a major plot switch from the original series is going to happen:

I say, the visitors will be good... but there will be an American insurrection against them, that is put down. Sort of a "rednecks try to kill the benefactors" plot twist if you will.

That's my prediction... that in the end, the V's are good, but the series will be about a period of turmoil brought about by conservative types who resist every good thing in the universe.

Posted by: Gringo at November 03, 2009 09:05 PM (x1AYm)

85 Ha! I knew Obama was a Reptilian!

Vindicated once again!

/and yes, of course Hillary is one too, in real life, they dont' know how to make everyone beautiful....

Posted by: shibumi at November 03, 2009 09:05 PM (OKZrE)

86 Spoiler:

The V's eat soylent green.

Posted by: pablo honey at November 03, 2009 09:05 PM (oh2Ef)

Also the peace and love happy talk. If they don't fuck this up, this show is the perfect metaphor for the utopian statist evil that's been trying to destroy civilization for the last 80 years or so.

Precisely. It's not just Obama.

The original apparently was about nazis.

It's utopianism in any form.

If they toss that away and make their own plot incoherant to avoid offending actual goddamn utopianistic idiots.... yeesh.

Posted by: Entropy at November 03, 2009 09:05 PM (cok/k)

88
It's a cookbook! It's a cookbook!

Posted by: Lloyd Bochner at November 03, 2009 09:06 PM (gxVc6)

89 Entropy-- according to reports, they have already taken the creative control away from the dude who put this episode together. Look for a serious walk-back by, oh, next week

Posted by: Truman North at November 03, 2009 09:07 PM (XH/G8)

Let me have my hope Truman.

If they pull a BSG I'll mail them envelopes full of baking soda.

Posted by: Entropy at November 03, 2009 09:09 PM (cok/k)

91
You know how they're gonna change this, right? This is my guess:

They're gonna hook up the aliens with the religious right in some kind of alliance. And they'll have a big-mouth talk-radio guy helping out the aliens by spreading their propaganda.

Posted by: Tweet O'Rly? at November 03, 2009 09:09 PM (v77ig)

92 You know how they're gonna change this, right? This is my guess: They're gonna hook up the aliens with the religious right in some kind of alliance. And they'll have a big-mouth talk-radio guy helping out the aliens by spreading their propaganda. or they will reveal in a later episode that one of the V's was none other than....dun dun dun...George Walker Bush

Posted by: Ben at November 03, 2009 09:11 PM (bftbi)

93 Hope.
Devotion.
Universal Health Care.
Reporters submitting to the leaders wishes.

What did I miss?

I think I'm also a bit worried that a promising start could somehow suddenly turn. Just too much hell will be raised if they continue down this path.

Posted by: mark at November 03, 2009 09:11 PM (Wquex)

94 Even my 12 y/o old daughter kept getting the references to Obama. After they stated the words "universal health care", she blurted out "OMG, Obama!".
It's great to see her mature into a conservative.

Posted by: SGT BAZZ at November 03, 2009 09:12 PM (xS8cv)

shit, the last post merged mine with the one before it. Pixy must be overloaded

there are so many open threads. I guess i will come back for the ONT

Posted by: Ben at November 03, 2009 09:12 PM (bftbi)

96 So far so good. I like that they show they are lizards from the git go.

Posted by: Rocks at November 03, 2009 09:13 PM (MTcoh)

97
Acting is terrible the first few scenes.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 03, 2009 09:14 PM (Dh+s2)

98
Maybe not GWB, but a Texas oil billionaire.

Posted by: Tweet O'Rly? at November 03, 2009 09:14 PM (v77ig)

99 Yeah....and I'd hit the leader like a high energy particle in the Large Hadron Collider.

Posted by: Rocks at November 03, 2009 09:14 PM (MTcoh)

100

Yes, this was a good pilot. An excellent job by the writers.

I really hope the upcoming episodes don't cock it all up

Posted by: Zimriel at November 03, 2009 09:14 PM (rtzHA)

101 They're gonna hook up the aliens with the religious right in some kind of alliance. And they'll have a big-mouth talk-radio guy helping out the aliens by spreading their propaganda.

And they run all of the mom-and-pop stores out of business and force everyone to shop at V-Mart for all of their consumer needs.

And V-Mart doesn't allow unions.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at November 03, 2009 09:15 PM (gHzxf)

102
oh, and you know how they're gonna spin the universal health care thing, right?

Easy. The aliens are gonna be seen making backroom deals with Big Insurance.

This is the Bush admin, and you WILL realize it.

Posted by: Tweet O'Rly? at November 03, 2009 09:16 PM (v77ig)

103 Everyone needs to call abc and compliment them on the show. Also alert them that there may be a Visitor covering the elections on msnbc. It's either that or pod people.

Posted by: RicardoVerde at November 03, 2009 09:16 PM (PBTsv)

104 I liked how the kids were encouraged by the Vs to spraypaint the letter V everywhere, kinda like those stupid fucking "O" logos.

When the kid's mom braced him about it, he said, "They call it spreading hope!"

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, atop his racist steed, white robes a-flappin' at November 03, 2009 09:17 PM (xGIqT)

105
Morena Baccarin, still very hot.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 03, 2009 09:17 PM (Dh+s2)

106
Goddamn affiliate clogged up the screen with election results. Fucking asshole motherfuckers.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 03, 2009 09:18 PM (Dh+s2)

107 Acting is terrible the first few scenes.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 03, 2009 09:14 PM (Dh+s2)

It was iffy and the Blond FBI agnet stinks. I hope she settles in.

Posted by: Rocks at November 03, 2009 09:18 PM (MTcoh)

108
I like the blonde, whatshername. She was on Briscoe County. The writing/directing though is clumsy. YAYYY Wash as a cop!

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 03, 2009 09:20 PM (Dh+s2)

109 This show is about hating a black man. It's racism, straight up.

Posted by: Janeane Garofalo at November 03, 2009 09:20 PM (xGIqT)

110 If they toss that away and make their own plot incoherant to avoid offending actual goddamn utopianistic idiots.... yeesh.

You do realize that you are talking about an administration that has been whining like a little bitch about the one TV network that won't polish its knob? The same administration that tried to bar said network from the press pool?

Incoherency is on the way, my man.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at November 03, 2009 09:21 PM (gHzxf)

111

Was a fan of the original in the 1980s. Looks a little campy today.

The ABC remake 'looks' good so far, special effects and make-up wise. Storyline has obvious reflections of the political crap today, and sort of liked the terrorist cell element (but better not see the storyline go south with insinuating the WOT was manufactured, but they'll disappoint ... a given).

Disappointed the typical 2 hour opening pilot for such shows wasn't the case. Will be interesting to see how much of the 80s show storyline they fall back on, and how much 'new' (something near impossible for today's Hollywood machine) they come up with.

Anyone else a bit hooked on FlashForward? (I'm thinking I'm figuring out that 'mystery')

Posted by: drillanwr at November 03, 2009 09:24 PM (1kwr2)

112 This is another attempt by the Jew-run Hollywood conservative establishment to smear our black president by making him a white woman!

We're not going to let them push our brother aside to make room for some white interloper on a spaceship.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at November 03, 2009 09:26 PM (xGIqT)

113
Local affiliate has huge logo and election results on screen during the V premiere. Chicken still being abused. News at 11.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 03, 2009 09:28 PM (Dh+s2)

114
It was the video version of Coast-to-Coast... sans Art Bell and George Noory.
Meh.

Posted by: sickinmass at November 03, 2009 09:30 PM (rYWEB)

115 111- Anyone else a bit hooked on FlashForward?

I'm not hooked yet, but the past two eps have been really good.

Posted by: Girl Thursday at November 03, 2009 09:31 PM (B/VPd)

116 I knew Obama was a Reptilian!

I don't know about that. But I do know that a vote for Al Franken is a vote for Lizard People.

Posted by: pbrown at November 03, 2009 09:36 PM (rTGYp)

117

Anna . . . Anna . . . Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm

Best TV villainess since Sherry Palmer. Hope they don't ruin her.

Posted by: Stifler at November 03, 2009 09:37 PM (1kwr2)

118
Ok, "Tyler" is a douche, this is pretty clumsy plot development. "They call it spreading hope!" "Ok, you have to talk to me. Is it because of you're dad?" Puke.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 03, 2009 09:37 PM (Dh+s2)

119

Whoaaaaa, Christmas commercial in the 2nd commercial break. Way too early, fail on their part. Skipped it.

Posted by: Dang Straights at November 03, 2009 09:38 PM (Dh+s2)

120 I'm not hooked yet, but the past two eps have been really good.

Posted by: Girl Thursday

If you miss (which I usually do) episodes Hulu.com has them the next day.

Just when I think I have 'it' figured out I sort of get lost in the effort to try to make it make sense ... If THAT makes sense.

Posted by: drillanwr at November 03, 2009 09:40 PM (1kwr2)

121

Best part: douche newscaster saying "violent eruptions have already broken out protesting the visitors."

I keep waiting for the media to refer to the protestors as "Vbaggers"

Posted by: LexisTexas at November 03, 2009 09:41 PM (Vt8uv)

122 Ahoy Mateys, for those of ye who missed the Bewitched Portrait on the magic box, ye can catch it on hulu.com fer free come sunrise. Arrr.

Posted by: butters at November 03, 2009 09:44 PM (Iy1fI)

123 Skimming the comments..

So they've changed it from a Nazi allegory to an Obama one? Awesome.

Posted by: sickinmass at November 03, 2009 09:51 PM (rYWEB)

124 In the original series, the idea that the Visitors couldn't imitate our voices was absurd, so that was dropped for the redux. The idea that they'd want our water is also absurd, so I think that's out. They may like to eat people but I think their motive is to colonize or just use the planet as a base. And they'll probably work anal probulating in there, somewhere.

Posted by: Salem at November 03, 2009 09:59 PM (86rbG)

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Posted by: torabora at November 03, 2009 10:05 PM (g5JCw)

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If they just wanted Earth's resources they could have just pounded the place back to the Triassic. Wouldn't even need nukes; a few big rocks would do it.

Posted by: Zimriel at November 03, 2009 10:08 PM (rtzHA)

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Posted by: mojo at November 03, 2009 10:12 PM (5MA1v)

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I keep waiting for the media to refer to the protestors as "Vbaggers"

Posted by: LexisTexas

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BTW, loved the reference to Independence Day in one of the TV news footage clips.

Posted by: drillanwr at November 03, 2009 10:13 PM (1kwr2)

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Posted by: mojo at November 03, 2009 10:14 PM (5MA1v)

132 Hey, who gets to have the V-baby hybrid, like in the original series? I know it's early and the whole active cast isn't out there yet.

Posted by: drillanwr at November 03, 2009 10:17 PM (1kwr2)

133

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Main alien chick needs a couple of sandwiches and some goddamn hair.

FBI mom looks like Ann Coulter, if Ann Coulter ate food. I'd hit it like a whiplash fender-bender - from behind, necessitating several visits to the chiropractor, a large prescription of oxycodone, and a ginned-up lawsuit afterward.

Disenchanted reporter dude is the illegitimate love child of Michael J. Fox and Hugh Grant.

Besides all that, it had no mysterious goings-on, uncertainty, or doubt among the human characters like the first miniseries did. Nothing to evoke charges of paranoia from the gracious but suspicious benefactors, suspicions to be later vindicated. Nope, they only had near-worshipful acceptance or rabid completely justifiable opposition. Not even anybody saying "how come you guys look just like us hairless monkeys when you come from the other side of the Milky Way?"

Posted by: angryoldfatman at November 03, 2009 10:19 PM (ZZg4j)

134

I was rather underwhelmed. Sadly.

It looked like they took a two-hour pilot and chopped down to one hour. Too much of it was forced, without sufficient build up. Maybe that's because everyone already knows that they are reptilian and so that aspect would not be a surprise, but still.

Also, the V-Obama parallels seem a bit overstated as well. At least at this point.

All that being the case, it is still a million times better than that piece of worthless crap called Stargate: Universe.

Posted by: Bender at November 03, 2009 10:21 PM (FDZUn)

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-- SPOILER ALERT --

_{It's a cookbook.}

Posted by: Bender at November 03, 2009 10:24 PM (FDZUn)

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Posted by: Salem at November 03, 2009 10:31 PM (86rbG)

137 Anyone else feel squeamish at the use of the Crucifix in the church as a 'weapon', and then it's shattering on the floor? Paranoid? Maybe so, but Hollywood has brought it on itself. The coming movie 2012 director states he felt more comfortable destroying Rio's Christ the Redeemer statue than the Muslim big-black-box (Kaaba) in his movie (feared a fatwa, the big pussy). http://tinyurl.com/yhye8du Oh, and look for the priest and blonde (female) FBI agent to fall for each other. (Unless they decide to have him go for her son

Posted by: drillanwr at November 03, 2009 10:32 PM (GkYyh)

138

Hopefully, at some point after the Spacelizards start eating people, a typical Libtard will ask "what we did to them to make them destroy our planet and eat us all?"

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 03, 2009 10:33 PM (XASus)

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fatman: 'Not even anybody saying "how come you guys look just like us hairless monkeys when you come from the other side of the Milky Way?"'

Actually some of the reporters did wonder if the Visitors had the same physiology. Even the Michael J Fox stand-in came close to this when he noted how (impossibly) beautiful they were. ("Anna" deflected this one.)

Posted by: Zimriel at November 03, 2009 10:33 PM (rtzHA)

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Posted by: Entropy at November 03, 2009 10:40 PM (cok/k)

141 The biggest difference in this V to the 80s V is they state the aliens had been here disguised for a long time effecting our world events.

Posted by: drillanwr at November 03, 2009 10:42 PM (GkYyh)

142 I was right in the middle of a reptile zoo! Someone was giving booze to these god damned things. It won't be long now until they tear us to shreds...

Posted by: Salem at November 03, 2009 10:42 PM (86rbG)

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Posted by: logprof at November 03, 2009 11:06 PM (I3Udb)

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And Anna is smoking hot.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 03, 2009 11:07 PM (Eb7rY)

145 ¹⁴²^{I was right in the middle of a reptile zoo! Someone was giving booze to these god damned things. It won't be long now until they tear us to shreds...}

^{Posted by: Salem at November 03, 2009 10:42 PM (86rbG)}

It's okay, they're just admiring the shape of your skull...

Posted by: LexisTexas at November 03, 2009 11:10 PM (Vt8uv)

146 Wife and I agreed that it was WAY too rushed. Should have stretched over two hours. No suspense, no build-up, few revelations, etc.

I can't see the Obama references continuing. They'll turn on us. They always do. I see this show going Jericho. We'll see.

Posted by: schizuki at November 03, 2009 11:35 PM (SuGDg)

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Posted by: Bubba Thudd at November 03, 2009 11:54 PM (bFy4C)

148 "And Anna is smoking hot."

She was far hotter in Firefly.

Posted by: Bubba Thudd at November 03, 2009 11:57 PM (bFy4C)

149
> 80

has anyone seen the original?

'what do the V's want with us? to eat us? that seems kinda lame. I wouldn't fly a billion light years for a good steak

Posted by: Ben
What they want (in the original and, according to spoilers, in the new version) is too stupid to be believed. So stupid, that it's why I stopped watching the original and won't watch the remake.

But if you really want to know I'll post it - errr. How do you do invisotype?

Meh. Ok, I'll go with the basic Caesar Cypher. Just move the letters one position to the LEFT!

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Posted by: Comrade Arthur at November 04, 2009 12:06 AM (rRwUv)

150

I like how the kid had to fill out a form, in a common paper brochure, in order to join a club created by frickin' ALIENS. Am I the only person on Earth who would find it odd that visitors from another planet call themselves Visitors, shorten that appellation to "Vees", and need your mom's signature if your under the age of majority? Isn't it a little too convenient that their culture meshes so perfectly into our existing legal regimes? I'd think I was being punked right off the bat.

Posted by: Marty at November 04, 2009 12:30 AM (c+sVx)

151

SPOILER ALERT:

"V" was the name of the sled that the aliens had when they were children.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 04, 2009 12:49 AM (eNxMU)

152 No no, water they have. They're here for our Chivas Regal.

Posted by: Salem at November 04, 2009 01:17 AM (86rbG)

153 I thought the Vs were Tyler Durden and Keyser Soze?

Posted by: Some Asshole at November 04, 2009 01:20 AM (Gsep6)

154 Just saw an interview with the actress who plays Anna ... She said it's pretty sad that we have to rely on aliens for healthcare. Idiot.

Posted by: Girl Thursday at November 04, 2009 01:26 AM (B/VPd)

155 It hasn't jumped the shark yet, but I'm pessimistic so waiting for it.

After the gossip rumors it'd be 'toned down due to current social similarities' AKA Obama...I was incredibly surprised it was so...brutal.

Not just the Universal Healthcare bit. The journalist totally folding bit was..very surprising. Add unto that the..sorry, Godwin, the Hitler Youth style signing up kids for Visitor Ambassador.

Granted, there were, and still are, many elements that make the 'rebellion' look like violent crackpots.

So I'm still waitin for the Anti-V's to come out as...French 'Youths' or Palestinian 'freedom fighters'.

Still, am VERY surprised they went that far. This is a good sign.

Posted by: Keapon Laffin at November 04, 2009 03:59 AM (r5iM0)

156 Re: 137

No, The crucifix falling and the military jet crashing seemed very appropriate. Those things were the first attacked in the "O" invasion.
I liked the idea of cells of V's being here the whole time.

Now I find already they are going to change the format to be like all the other shows. Bum Deal. At least I had a good laugh up my sleeve for one show.
Wish L.A. would make more shows for the rest of us.

Posted by: Berkly at November 04, 2009 07:45 AM (uCreK)

157 What was with the intro chyron that said "Where were you during 9/11"? They're confusing 9/11 with 11/4/08.

Posted by: Corona at November 04, 2009 09:07 AM (+xghX)

158

I see what they've done. They went from hot chix with big hair and bright colors to hot chix with little hair and dull colors.

I'm good with patters. That's just how I roll.

Posted by: The Most Interesting Man In the World (rdb) at November 04, 2009 09:15 AM (mkihu)

159 Patterns too.

Posted by: The Most Interesting Man In the World (rdb) at November 04, 2009 09:15 AM (mkihu)

160

"V" was the name of the sled that the aliens had when they were children.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 04, 2009 12:49 AM (eNxMU)

Smart military blog? Heck no, we've branched out into movie and pop culture. Bravo sir, on an excellent reference.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at November 04, 2009 09:41 AM (UEEex)

161 I'm trying to recall the exact phrase at the end, something like

"They have the ultimate weapon - fortitude"

I think it was originally (and should have been)

"They have the ultimate weapon - hope"

I anything was changed at the last minute to not offend/derail Obama this would be my guess.

Posted by: Drew at November 04, 2009 12:37 PM (Ujq40)

162 It had more action in the first episode than the entire SGUniverse series so far. Can't believe they put such an anti-Obamacult series on ABC.

Posted by: Suzy at November 04, 2009 02:23 PM (AXAnf)

163

Oh, and look for the priest and blonde (female) FBI agent to fall for each other.

I don't recall anything in the episode specifiying that it was a Catholic church. Make him Episcopalian and it's a non-issue.

Posted by: Laughingdog at November 04, 2009 02:42 PM (WGcw3)

164 I'm trying to recall the exact phrase at the end, something like

"They have the ultimate weapon - fortitude"

I think it was originally (and should have been)

"They have the ultimate weapon - hope"

It was "devotion".

I agree that 1 hour made it rushed. But if it's good, the pilot won't matter a couple of episodes in.

Yeah, were the falling crucifix and jet fighter at the beginning seemed to be symbols of the soon-to-be replacement of religion and military/defense by the Vs. Still, as others have noticed, you know the creators (or their replacements) will mess it up in order to avoid "hurting" the Prez.

Posted by: whatever at November 04, 2009 02:56 PM (XIXhw)

165

Oh, and look for the priest and blonde (female) FBI agent to fall for each other.

I don't recall anything in the episode specifiying that it was a Catholic church. Make him Episcopalian and it's a non-issue.

Didn't he and the older priest specifically mention the Pope early on?

Posted by: whatever at November 04, 2009 02:57 PM (XIXhw)

166 yep they talked about Vatican acknowledgment of the V as god's creation.

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