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FY 2009 Federal Deficit Terrifyingly Huge

Friday afternoon news dump.

The Obama administration said Friday the deficit for the fiscal year just ended was $1.4 trillion, the largest relative to the size of the economy since 1945, underscoring the challenge to shrink the fiscal gap even as the White House and Congress consider further steps to stimulate a slow recovery.

The final tally for fiscal 2009, which ended Sept. 30, was nearly $1 trillion greater than the $459 billion deficit for fiscal 2008. This year’s deficit translates to nearly 10 percent of the size of the economy, up from 3.2 percent of gross domestic product for last year’s deficit, according to a joint statement from the Treasury Department and the Office of Management and Budget.

We are just so screwed it's not even funny.

Government spending last year jumped to $3.52 trillion, up 18.2 percent over 2008. The $700 billion financial bailout fund and increased spending and tax relief from the $787 billion economic stimulus program that Obama pushed through Congress in February drove the increase.

For September, a month when the government usually records surpluses, the deficit totaled $46.6 billion. That's a sharp contrast to the $45.7 billion surplus in September 2008, the last time the government's books were in the black.

In issuing the final budget figures, top administration officials said the president was determined to get control of the deficits in coming years.

"It was critical that we acted to bring the economy back from the brink earlier this year," White House budget director Peter Orszag said in a statement. "The president recognizes that we need to put the nation back on a fiscally sustainable path."

That's a little like resuscitating a guy who had a heart attack on the way to his execution. Yeah, he's alive but for how much longer?

When confronted with something this unsustainable there's only two things to be done.

1- Spend untold trillions more taking over the nation's health insurance system.

and

2- Blame Bush.

Posted by: DrewM. at 05:33 PM



Comments

1

1st

now for my balloon ride home

Posted by: Cool Money Grip at October 16, 2009 05:36 PM (KOkrW)

2

This is being done to us on purpose. I hope we can hang on until the 2010 mid-term elections.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2009 05:38 PM (ZGhSv)

3 I expect Kratos shortly.

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2009 05:39 PM (mEJRc)

4

Darkside will bring the Final Crisis.

 

"Superman is deaaaaaad!"

Posted by: Max Power at October 16, 2009 05:40 PM (q177U)

5

all those dumb ass kids who voted for Obama don't realize how they so screwed themselves.

Posted by: bulwark at October 16, 2009 05:41 PM (jvrmc)

6 In due time, we'll be the only lenders.

This sham brought to you in part by the the 2006 Democratic Party plan to take back the Congress.  Sure, the hawkish views on Afghanistan were all show, but it worked so...Alinsky'd!

Posted by: Big Government at October 16, 2009 05:41 PM (GtYrq)

7 O/T:  Was watching Beck.  He began asking a question.  the screen froze and then he came back after the question had been asked and the doctor's were raising their hands in overwhelming agreement.  Oh, and yeah, the other channels on other televisions didn't freeze.  Can anyone tell me what that question was?  TIA

Posted by: curious at October 16, 2009 05:41 PM (p302b)

8

Time to start grabbing some mops....

Posted by: Max Power at October 16, 2009 05:41 PM (q177U)

9 I hope we can hang on until the 2010 mid-term elections.

So Republicans can get blamed for the shit/fan meeting in '12.

Cunning strategy.

Posted by: oblig. at October 16, 2009 05:43 PM (E5Oz5)

10 It never occurred to the founders of our country not to make the assumption that anyone in the service of the American people loves the people and the country with great fervor and would be forever loyal and honorable.

Posted by: curious at October 16, 2009 05:44 PM (p302b)

11 Summon the summoner of meteors.

Posted by: toby928 at October 16, 2009 05:45 PM (PD1tk)

12 3 I expect Kratos shortly.

You have called me, Methos, and here I am.

This deficit explosion means that truly, in the end, there will be only chaos.

Seriously, as big as the deficit is now, this is only the beginning.  Once the tens of trillions of unfunded liabilities in all government sectors start rolling in during the next few years, the scope of this slow-moving-now, but gaining-momentum fiscal disaster will be legendary.  And I don't think there's a blessed thing we can do about it now, save cut spending to almost nil now.


Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at October 16, 2009 05:45 PM (otlXg)

13 Math question:
$700b (TARP) + $787b (Stimulus/campaign payback fund) >$1.4t deficit

So if Bush hadn't gotten suckered by TARP and the Stimulus hadn't been done, this year's budget (which would have been passed, then signed by Bush) would have been balanced?

Am I missing something?

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2009 05:46 PM (mEJRc)

14 We're screwed.  No, make that our kids are screwed, and their kids, too.   And the American public really doesn't give a shit.  It's an abstraction to them.  Billion?  Trillion?  Just a bunch of zeros.

And now BHO wants to send $250 checks to all the senior citizens.  

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 16, 2009 05:47 PM (y4B2y)

15 This is not going to end well, I fear.

Posted by: rawmuse at October 16, 2009 05:48 PM (ePlj6)

16 A great deal of Porkulus has yet to be spent, having been slated for vote-buying efforts in 2010/12 IIRC.

Posted by: Techie at October 16, 2009 05:49 PM (cxW4X)

17 So if Bush hadn't gotten suckered by TARP and the Stimulus hadn't been done, this year's budget (which would have been passed, then signed by Bush) would have been balanced?

I don't think that the bulk of the porkulus money is included.  This is actual P&L stuff not authorization. 

Apophis has the money scheduled to buy votes next year.

Posted by: toby928 at October 16, 2009 05:49 PM (PD1tk)

18 jinx

Posted by: toby928 at October 16, 2009 05:49 PM (PD1tk)

19 Note to self, learn Chinese.

Posted by: dogfish at October 16, 2009 05:49 PM (sGaoh)

20 And I don't think there's a blessed thing we can do about it now, save cut spending to almost nil now.

That, or inflate the crap out of the dollar, but that'll be coming soon enough anyway

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 16, 2009 05:50 PM (y4B2y)

21 seriously I am Bug eyed scared, and so glad my marine is going to be out of this, and home to defend us here at the farm. I really think we will need him.

Posted by: Gushka at October 16, 2009 05:50 PM (u3aBt)

22 Glad I got offered that job today. Time to hunker down and save, save, save.

Posted by: Trish at October 16, 2009 05:51 PM (0U5Kd)

23 Hell, 50% of Americans don't pay federal income taxes.  Remember, as George Bernard Shaw said, "He who robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul"

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 16, 2009 05:52 PM (y4B2y)

24

Breaking News: Noam Chomsky sees NAZIS in "Right-Wing Media"!

Cites Rush Limbaugh specifically

http://tiny.cc/8sTTk

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at October 16, 2009 05:52 PM (H7Rlw)

25 To have done this precisely at the time where we in the USA are at our least productive in decades, pure madness.

Do we deserve this? Are we that stupid?

Yes, and yes.

Posted by: rawmuse at October 16, 2009 05:53 PM (ePlj6)

26 In the end, we will get the Government we deserve and get it good and hard.

Nobody's fault but ours.

Posted by: Techie at October 16, 2009 05:54 PM (cxW4X)

27 This is how fragile the U.S. always was.

We took it for granted that the guy in charge was on our side.

This guy ain't.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at October 16, 2009 05:55 PM (YRjsF)

28

"The president recognizes that we need to put the nation back on a fiscally sustainable path."

 

That Orszag wasn't hit with an incinerating lightning bolt after that one just indicates that God himself is sitting incredulous with jaw agape at the whoppers these guys are lobbing out there on a daily basis.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 16, 2009 05:55 PM (B+qrE)

29 "Bush was suckered by TARP"???  You mean the Democratic controlled House and Senate passed TARP onto Bush.  Yes he called for it, but the Dems are up to their eyeballs in this.  Yes Republican's voted for it too so I don't think a Veto would've worked anyway but let's just say Obama and the Democrats IN CONTROL passed the bill.

Posted by: CDR M at October 16, 2009 05:56 PM (cvmTR)

30

 

I've gotta' go with #2 here and blame Bush.

Barry

OsamaHusseinIslamObama  2012'
(the terrorist-Uighur-ACORN-media choice)
-It's never too early to campaign-   

Posted by: Barry Soetoro (D-King OF The World!) at October 16, 2009 05:57 PM (acZnC)

31 I don't think that the bulk of the porkulus money is included.  This is actual P&L stuff not authorization

Okay, I didn't think those numbers made sense.

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2009 05:57 PM (mEJRc)

32 News: Noam Chomsky sees NAZIS in "Right-Wing Media"!

Is that old tool still around?   What an embarrassment.  America-hating bastard.  Talk about exhibit A in the "tenure is bullshit" argument. 

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 16, 2009 05:57 PM (y4B2y)

33 If you recall, and I I am not his biggest fan by any means, the literally had to drag the guy, kicking and screaming, cause go back and watch the tape, he wasn't/isn't good at hiding his emotion, particularly anger, into the speech he was forced to make about this.

Posted by: curious at October 16, 2009 05:57 PM (p302b)

34 "The $700 billion financial bailout fund and increased spending and tax relief from the $787 billion economic stimulus program that Obama pushed through Congress in February drove the increase."  --There was tax relief??  Are they talking about the adjustment they made to our withholdings?  That was my tax relief???  Good God.  This is reporting??

Posted by: CDR M at October 16, 2009 05:58 PM (cvmTR)

35 It's not possible to be this stupid ... It's on purpose.

And I doubt it will end well.

Posted by: bill-tb at October 16, 2009 05:59 PM (iiiMw)

36

It's okay. Stop worrying.

We'll just keep passing stimulus bills until everything's all better again.

I say twelve more, and then we take a look around and see if it's working. (And by that I mean watch the View to see if Joy Behar approves.)

He's Obama, for chrissakes. He's the Light Worker. Just keep reading the bumper stickers on the back of your Subaru Outbacks, and you'll be fine.

 

 

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi's Botox Mask at October 16, 2009 06:03 PM (iaMr2)

37 Slightly related.....

I saw a clip of Obama in New Orleans, speaking to an audience that loved him.

Someone asked a question about getting more money from the government. He replied, "I can't just write a check!" followed by a laugh.

From the audience, someone shouted out, "Why not?", and they were serious.

Illustrates the mentality of some who are going to be pretty pissed if things get any worse and money stops flowing.


Posted by: Who Knows at October 16, 2009 06:03 PM (0aQsc)

38 Deficit of 1.4 billion?  If my quick math is right, that's about a $5,000 burden for each person in America.  That's just for THIS YEAR.  And yet this guy gets a pass.

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 16, 2009 06:05 PM (y4B2y)

39 You forgot 3 : Waste untold billions on cap and crap trade.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at October 16, 2009 06:05 PM (TZazt)

40 CDR M@29
It was pushed by his Treasury Secretary.  Remember the initial 'legslation' suggested?  Three pages of "give us $700 billion and trust us?"  He signed it after (mainly) Democrats voted for it.  He bears responsibility for that, as do any Republicans that panicked and went along with it.

If you want to push the Democrat's fault meme, you're better off focusing on the cause (CRA and its coverup) than the 'solution.'

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2009 06:05 PM (mEJRc)

41 Yeah....TARP...I seem to remember some heated arguments about that little turd....

Posted by: Alex at October 16, 2009 06:06 PM (sAP8F)

42 I won't come in your mouth.  Really.

Posted by: Cloward and Piven at October 16, 2009 06:06 PM (lN56Y)

43 Glad I got offered that job today. Time to hunker down and save, save, save. Posted by: Trish

Congratulations!

And if we/you expect inflation, it might actually be better to spend, spend, spend. Assets during inflation inflate. It's cash that becomes less worth holding.

Posted by: Iskandar at October 16, 2009 06:06 PM (2E1fT)

44 OBAMALYPSE NOW.

Posted by: ParisParamus at October 16, 2009 06:07 PM (aJD1R)

45 Lessee, how can we turn this into a Chuckles bashfest?

Posted by: RubyTuesday at October 16, 2009 06:07 PM (yANMF)

46 Methos, my bad.  They all deserve the blame.  Bush for not pushing CRA reform.  Repubs for acting like Dems.  Dems for, well, acting like Dems.

Posted by: CDR M at October 16, 2009 06:08 PM (cvmTR)

47 Just for shits and giggles , can anyone direct me to some f'ckn knowledge on cellular organizing tactics for rural  morons .?
Ya' know , not that there would ever be a need for something like that , just as an academic exercise .

Posted by: akward davies at October 16, 2009 06:08 PM (wb68R)

48 Lessee, how can we turn this into a Chuckles bashfest?

Posted by: RubyTuesday at October 16, 2009 06:07 PM (yANMF)

It's absolutely not true that CJ fucks chickens.  That whole thing was like totally taken out of context.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 16, 2009 06:09 PM (lN56Y)

49 While on a treadmill last night and forced to watch CNN, I kept seeing a note on the screen crawl:  "Obama to critics:  'I'm just getting started!'"  My reaction last night was, "This from the man that promised us he'd be ready to lead from Day One?"  Unfortunately, with today's news that quote takes on a whole new meaning.  I think I was happier with last night's reaction.

Posted by: Greg at October 16, 2009 06:09 PM (PgC12)

50

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 16, 2009 06:05 PM (y4B2y)

How Does This Play Into Politics? Well Let's Take A Look At The Numbers:

- Obama Likely Voters Approval Rating: 47%

- Obama Adults Approval Rating: 52%

- Congressional Race: BOTH Gallup & Rasmussen Has Republicans W/ Small Leads

- Virginia Governor's Race: McDonell By 9-10 Points

- NJ Governor's Race: Christie By 2-4 Points

Republicans Have The Edge, But It's A Slight Edge

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 06:09 PM (xNw7B)

51 Just for shits and giggles , can anyone direct me to some f'ckn knowledge on cellular organizing tactics for rural  morons .?
Ya' know , not that there would ever be a need for something like that , just as an academic exercise .

Posted by: akward davies at October 16, 2009 06:08 PM (wb68R)

Move towards the automatic weapons fire.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 16, 2009 06:10 PM (lN56Y)

52

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 06:09 PM (xNw7B)

I Forgot To Mention O's Personal Favorables Which Were In The High 70s Have Fallen To 56% (Bush Left W/ A 53% Favorable Rating Even Though He Was Unpopular So This Shows Obama Is Not As Personally Liked As He May Think He Is By Americans)

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 06:11 PM (xNw7B)

53 48...so he just handles their peckers? or is he an alleged chicken choker? I heard these things in the ladies' room.

Posted by: RubyTuesday at October 16, 2009 06:11 PM (yANMF)

54

Yeah, but a high federal deficit is totally worth it.  If not for all the spending, we'd be at a staggering 9% unemployment rate right now.

Racists.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2009 06:13 PM (rf03a)

55 Prediction: In 2025 this country will be the call center for India. We will be lucky to have the work.

Posted by: George Orwell at October 16, 2009 06:14 PM (AZGON)

56 I hate all this pantywaist Hopey-Changey BHO crap.   The President of The United States needs to be a grumpy old man  (like Dick Cheyney), who can tell Americans that we've gotten too fat and lazy, that we're selfish bastards who are mortgaging our childrens' future, and that it's better to be respected/feared in the world rather than liked.  And by the way, stop whining, drop and give him 20.

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 16, 2009 06:14 PM (y4B2y)

57 Prediction: In 2025 this country will be the call center for India. We will be lucky to have the work.

Posted by: George Orwell at October 16, 2009 06:14 PM (AZGON)

I'll have died in the camps by then.  WTF do I care?  My son Bharavai, known professionally, as "Michael", may have a different opinion though.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 16, 2009 06:16 PM (lN56Y)

58 "When confronted with something this unsustainable there's only two things to be done..."

and 3, push for cap and trade,

and 4, consider a VAT,

and 5, destroy the California bread-basket for a fish,

and 6, boost oil prices by halting domestic oil and nuclear energy production,

and so on and so on.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 16, 2009 06:16 PM (C3uAX)

59

OBAMALYPSE NOW.

More wingnut codewords, I see.

Posted by: Queef Olberdouche at October 16, 2009 06:16 PM (Zi+FQ)

60 Pedro thru a 2 hitter shutting out the Dodgers thru 7. Phillie up 1-0. Hey Mets--great move not signing him.

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 16, 2009 06:17 PM (tnGYI)

61 This is actually $400 billion lower then projected by the CBO, so small blessings I guess.

Posted by: epv at October 16, 2009 06:17 PM (88W5j)

62 No problem, CDR M.  Where TARP itself is concerned Hank Paulson was the real villain.  I'd still take Bush back in a second if not for the term limits.

I'm still curious what that deficit looks like without the Stimulus (however much is on the books this year) and TARP.

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2009 06:18 PM (mEJRc)

63

The deficit is ONLY 1.4 trillion because the FEDS only spent half of the TARP. 

Plus, as infuriating as TARP was, the government should still receive some of the 350 billion spent back.  That 800 billion dollars in stimulus, on the other hand,  is bye-bye. 

Oh well, it was a great country while it lasted.  Special thanks to all the worthless baby-boom f**ks who spoiled their kids rotten and let them watch tv until their brains turned to mush. Well-done. 

 

Posted by: stickety at October 16, 2009 06:19 PM (Jg5C9)

64 The Obamanation is not satisfied with destroying our nation from within, he is giving away our technologies, our military secrets, and our sovereignty as well.
I'm afraid there will be no "Reagan" to clean up after Obamanation like we were so blessed with after that clown Carter.

Posted by: sickinmass at October 16, 2009 06:20 PM (rYWEB)

65 Where TARP itself is concerned Hank Paulson was the real villain.

Any government official who believes that martial law is ever a legitimate governmental response should be hanged, summarily.  Fuck him.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 16, 2009 06:21 PM (lN56Y)

66 The Obamanation is not satisfied with destroying our nation from within, he is giving away our technologies, our military secrets, and our sovereignty as well.  I'm afraid there will be no "Reagan" to clean up after Obamanation like we were so blessed with after that clown Carter.

How much you wanna bet the Obama gives Gitmo back to Cuba after closing it?  In the true spirit of Jimmy Carter. (I'm still pissed about the Canal)

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 16, 2009 06:22 PM (y4B2y)

67 Owe-bama seems to be pushing hard for something...  Maybe, as some have suggested, a revolution, so that he can declare martial law and rule supreme?

I sure hope not, but who knows with this Maoist...   Luckily, I don't think the military would sit quietly by...

Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 16, 2009 06:24 PM (B5cM9)

68 How does my ass taste now, 52%?

Posted by: The Bell Curve at October 16, 2009 06:25 PM (v922q)

69 christ, CJ is now defending Dunn

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 06:25 PM (xNw7B)

70 If you want to get a look at the average Obama voter that approves of this bullshit just go to the opening night of the next gay Twilight movie and took a good look around. Take a good freakin look and fear for our future.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 16, 2009 06:26 PM (bNABd)

71 69 christ, CJ is now defending Dunn
Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 06:25 PM (xNw7B)

Oh and Mao!

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 16, 2009 06:27 PM (tnGYI)

72 YRM, you can still stand wading into that cess pool that is Little Gangrene Footfungus?

Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 16, 2009 06:27 PM (B5cM9)

73 How does my ass taste now, 52%?

Like a tossed salad, Great Leader.  May we have some more?  Oh! you had corn for dinner.

Posted by: The 52% at October 16, 2009 06:28 PM (y4B2y)

74 Smart states will begin to realize that being attached to this feral government is nothing less than suicide.  And this is just from the fiscal side.  Add the monetary disaster that is barreling down the road and the unrestrained power grabbing that the feral government is pushing at the same time ... 

Posted by: progressoverpeace at October 16, 2009 06:28 PM (A46hP)

75 go to the opening night of the next gay Twilight movie

I'm sick of hearing about that damn thing too! I think the idea/concept of the story is good, but the characters are so unlikable/pathethic

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 06:29 PM (xNw7B)

76

Well, it was a great 233 years.

Where do we sail off to now?

Posted by: TexasJew at October 16, 2009 06:29 PM (v922q)

77 What about me??

Posted by: The 10th Amendment at October 16, 2009 06:29 PM (B5cM9)

78 Whoa, guys, you're taking this stimulus thing a little too far.  Ease up on the gas, won't ya?

Posted by: Ghost of Maynard Keynes at October 16, 2009 06:29 PM (JgygP)

79 Want to hear something scary?

There have been no FDIC bank closures since the first week of October.

Do you think that's because there are no failing banks, or because the FDIC has just run out of money?

My bet is on the latter.

/writing from my Doom Lair, surrounded by the rolls of toilet paper that will soon be as good as cash when the Big Collapse comes.

Posted by: shibumi at October 16, 2009 06:30 PM (OKZrE)

80

Posted by: GregInSeattle at October 16, 2009 06:27 PM (B5cM9)

nah, just suddenly hit w/ curiosity to want to see how he'd reply to the Beck video of Dunn yesterday

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 06:30 PM (xNw7B)

81 Like a spoon on a soup pan, they would bang away on "Bush's" budget deficit.

Blah Blah! $400 Billion Deficit! Bush! Illegal war! Blah Blah!

Mention to any lib, "what was measured in billions is now measured in trillions".

Crickets. Nobody home. Don't matter.

Posted by: Pecos Billy at October 16, 2009 06:31 PM (8WOM0)

82 @64

It's all so hideous.  This is such a t-total nightmare, it's hard to wrap my brain around what is happening. 

Posted by: Twinks at October 16, 2009 06:31 PM (uazP3)

83

webofdebt.com

Anyone who hasn't looked at this had better. This is one huge nightmare!!

Posted by: elclynn at October 16, 2009 06:31 PM (WKNKk)

84 Heh.  "At 10 percent, the 2009 deficit is the highest since the end of World War II, when it was 21.5 percent."  I'm pretty sure that all of Bush's deficits were described in terms of absolute magnitude, not as a percent of GDP.  Funny how they're now described in terms of percentage GDP. 

Posted by: BSquare at October 16, 2009 06:31 PM (tR+cJ)

85 Whoa, guys, you're taking this stimulus thing a little too far.  Ease up on the gas, won't ya?

Posted by: Ghost of Maynard Keynes at October 16, 2009 06:29 PM (JgygP)

Ghost or not, you still can't see where this bitchslap is coming from.

Posted by: The Invisible Hand at October 16, 2009 06:31 PM (lN56Y)

86
GregInSeattle ..
It's interesting is it not, that in all the blather, bloviating, fabricating ad nauseum regarding "Obamacare" no one, absolutely no one has brought up the fact that it is unconstitutional from the git go. Nowhere in Article 1, Section 8 will you find any permission for Congress/Government to provide health/medical care in any form. In fact, much of what has already been done by the current Administration, is unconstitutional. The government is not allowed to disburse funds from the treasury for special interests, businesses etc. Dear Leader has no authority to dictate what a corporation is supposed to do with their current CEO and the list could go on. The GOP are predictably silent on the issue. So we now have a de facto one party system and a Dear Leader with his own Politburo. Does any of that sound familiar?
Anybody?
I am hording baconz for trading with Krakos and UncleFacts.

Posted by: sickinmass at October 16, 2009 06:31 PM (rYWEB)

87 69 christ, CJ is now defending Dunn

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 06:25 PM

You need to stop going over there. It's... unhealthy.

Did you decontaminate before posting here? It's required you know.

Posted by: shibumi at October 16, 2009 06:32 PM (OKZrE)

88 Just for shits and giggles , can anyone direct me to some f'ckn knowledge on cellular organizing tactics for rural  morons .?
Ya' know , not that there would ever be a need for something like that , just as an academic exercise .



Personal histories of WWII resistance. I really like Wine and War: The French, the Nazis, and the Battle for France's Greatest Treasure. Those Frog winemakers were pretty crafty bastards. And it's set in French rural areas, so it's a different read than what we think of with the French Resistance.

But the ur-text is Mao. It seems that the lizard-woman Anita Dunn may have had a point.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 16, 2009 06:32 PM (r8/Km)

89 Remember "The Office of the President-Elect"?

I just remembered that.  It was funny as shit.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at October 16, 2009 06:32 PM (YRjsF)

90 YRM: "christ, CJ is now defending Dunn"

I hate to send this thread spiraling out of control but a brief indulgence here. Is it conceivable that CJ is now on the payroll of the administration? As an artist, was he incentivized by Team Obama (see Big Government's coverage of this new phenomenon) to return to his roots? I remember CJ from the Dan Rather/terrorism days. The CJ of today is not that man. Money, however, would explain this change of advocacy.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 16, 2009 06:32 PM (C3uAX)

91 Is there any way we don't experience hyper-inflation in the next year or so?

Posted by: Fred at October 16, 2009 06:33 PM (gVdZN)

92 Actually, I was wondering what Nam Grunt is having for dinner this evening.

Posted by: Pecos Billy at October 16, 2009 06:33 PM (8WOM0)

93 Did you decontaminate before posting here? It's required you know.

i always do before and after I come here

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 06:33 PM (xNw7B)

94 To Libs Squishy Middle.
WE TOLD YOU SO!

Look there goes another zombie! I keep seeing more and more of them. Baah! They're probably harmless.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at October 16, 2009 06:34 PM (0q2P7)

95 I am hording baconz for trading with Krakos and UncleFacts.

And when the time comes, you'll want to see me for toilet paper. The soft, cushy kind the kills million year old tress. Yeah, that's the stuff I'm hoarding.

Posted by: shibumi at October 16, 2009 06:34 PM (OKZrE)

96 I read a bit of Prairie Fire today. In it they bitch that Nixon has unemployment at 5.5%, everything sucks and revolution is required.

That's what happened.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at October 16, 2009 06:34 PM (YRjsF)

97 The thing that tempts me most is to spend all my savings and run up my credit cards. After all, if I am to die broke it may as well be broke on my own debt.

Posted by: rawmuse at October 16, 2009 06:35 PM (ePlj6)

98 No one is going into camps. No one will be rounded up. This is unnecessary. People will merely have to settle for a much, much more limited standard of living. Your son in 2045 will marvel that you were able to get a knee replacement in 2004 without waiting 18 months. In fact he won't believe you when you tell him you put it off because you didn't want the down time. Your son won't have any college tuition savings, but that won't matter because the substandard education at the State Creche will be subsidized, and it will be worth little anyway. He'll have to learn Mandarin from an old Chinese, paid for by fixing his plumbing. With Mandarin under his belt, he can get the job in the State Carbon Reduction Waste Plant, run by Chinese engineers hired from Beijing. Engineers from the US haven't proved to be very reliable workers, or well-trained.

When he goes to work, on the soybean oil-powered community bus, while standing for ninety minutes he will think how you must be senile and fantasizing in your dotage, when you told him how you used to be able to take overseas vacations once a year or two... you, a mere middle-class family man. How you used to be able to eat at restaurants occasionally, and just eat what you liked. As if food and drink were never things to be strictly regulated at all times. How unsafe! And he really will roll his eyes when he says people could actually use tobacco... out of doors!

Yes, the future is a grand adventure. And we're all bozos on this bus.

Posted by: George Orwell at October 16, 2009 06:35 PM (AZGON)

99 Sigh.  I was  so looking forward to D'oh Boy giving me a grandchild or two some day.  Now all we do is "gently" lecture him about not getting married too soon, and how his kids and their kids are going to be screwed.  Brave new Obamanation.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at October 16, 2009 06:37 PM (UOM48)

100 Nixon has unemployment at 5.5%

the good ole days...

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 06:37 PM (xNw7B)

101

Posted by: George Orwell at October 16, 2009 06:35 PM (AZGON)

You're forgetting the Second Amendment. And over 3 billion rounds of private ammo, and climbing.

Posted by: TexasJew at October 16, 2009 06:38 PM (v922q)

102
@ Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 16, 2009 05:55 PM

I am 100% certain that The Mighty of Mighties took one look at the state of this nation and decided that HRC wasn't nearly putrescent enough a politician to reflect the moral and ethical decay of American citizenry.

Every grotesque lie uttered by these obvious malefactors is gobbled-up like imported chocolate by cretins, while yellow-puddle cowards wimper quietly, allowing the wholesale injustice to accumulate. We are well and truly cursed.

Posted by: TMK at October 16, 2009 06:38 PM (1zJmp)

103 We are so boned.

Posted by: DelD at October 16, 2009 06:39 PM (rC+/c)

104

Fun fact that none of you asked for:

If you printed out $1.4 trillion dollars end to end using US currency, it would circle the Earth at the equator approximately 54.5 times... using 100 dollar bills.

 

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2009 06:39 PM (rf03a)

105 Just took this pic in Tribeca:

http://twitpic.com/lrws1

Posted by: ParisParamus at October 16, 2009 06:39 PM (aJD1R)

106

. . . there's only two things to be done.

You said "only" as though they intend to stop at two.

Good one, Drew.

Posted by: FireHorse at October 16, 2009 06:40 PM (Vl5GH)

107 and I still can't figure out who got the 550 billion when the run on the banks started. Anyone have any ideas? It was ALL monetary funds. Soros?

Posted by: elclynn at October 16, 2009 06:41 PM (WKNKk)

108 Herr Morgenholz , you would make a good hunting buddy , despite that whole educated yankee thing ,  hanging like a millstone around your neck .
Do you hunt spring gobblers, by any chance ?

Posted by: akward davies at October 16, 2009 06:41 PM (wb68R)

109 100 Nixon has unemployment at 5.5%

the good ole days...
Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 06:37 PM (xNw7B)

Not to mention we still had a space program back then

Posted by: nevergiveup at October 16, 2009 06:42 PM (tnGYI)

110 ParisParamus:
What about the noose? I heard there would be nooses.

Bwa hah hah!

Posted by: George Orwell at October 16, 2009 06:42 PM (AZGON)

111 "The president recognizes that we need to put the nation back on a fiscally sustainable path."

When the fuck does he plan on acting on this? I guess the fact that he got a Nobel Peace Prize for doing less isn't much motivation.

Posted by: Andy at October 16, 2009 06:42 PM (VMyjP)

112

If you printed out $1.4 trillion dollars end to end using US currency, it would circle the Earth at the equator approximately 54.5 times... using 100 dollar bills.

 

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2009 06:39 PM (rf03a)

Did you just calculate that from the known dimensions, or did you see the Fed actually do that back in March when they actually printed over a trillion?

Posted by: progressoverpeace at October 16, 2009 06:43 PM (A46hP)

113 "The president recognizes that we need to put the nation back on a fiscally sustainable path."

Barry was the same felchpeddler who, just after signing Porkulus, said "We are entering a new era of fiscal responsibility."

In related news, dog poop is filet mignon.

Posted by: George Orwell at October 16, 2009 06:45 PM (AZGON)

114 86 - You are correct, but what do we do about it? Get another million people to surround the Capitol while Congress is in session and shut them down? Cut the power, drag them out, sort them out, and administer "justice"?

Posted by: obama is a traitor at October 16, 2009 06:46 PM (Qt4Y7)

115 Not to mention we still had a space program back then

No shit.  I wouldn't mind as much us being hugely in debt if we actually had some grand science programs.  Like a NASA that actually dared to set foot on another planet.  Or a Department of Energy that actually uncovered new energy sources.  Wow what a thought!  Instead all we get is fake pseudo-science and small-ball science.  Blegh.  THAT'S why it's so hard to get good American science students - there is no inspiration for them.

Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2009 06:46 PM (JgygP)

116 Thanks ill tempered cur , that's just the kind of tome I'm looking for .

Posted by: akward davies at October 16, 2009 06:46 PM (wb68R)

117 I recognize that I need to put the nation back on a fiscally sustainable path.  There.  I recognized it.  Now it's back to Barry's Spending Spree!

Posted by: Prez Barry O. at October 16, 2009 06:47 PM (JgygP)

118 "In issuing the final budget figures, top administration officials said the president was determined to get control of the deficits in coming years."

Oh, does Barry have a specific DATE IN MIND?
Just think, in 2012, we'll look back on this year's deficit as 'chump change'.

Posted by: GarandFan at October 16, 2009 06:47 PM (ZQBnQ)

119 Jane D'oh!..
OMG. That truly sucks. Just like your BiL.

We have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night.

Posted by: sickinmass at October 16, 2009 06:49 PM (rYWEB)

120 It's elementary, dear morons.  The smartest VP in all of history, Joe Biden, once spoke this truth - You have to spend money to save it (paraphrased).

If this is the case, Barry's Administration is saving the most money evar!

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at October 16, 2009 06:50 PM (otlXg)

121 Obama's whole plan from the start was to be the anti-Reagan (or as he put it "blow up everything Reagan did" ) and instead of starving the govt. blow it up so that massive (and I mean MASSIVE) tax increases are warranted. Which of course means more money (and control) from the Feds. None of this should surprise anyone that paid any attn. from 2007 on with this guy. I still say that he's trying to crash the economy on purpose so as to come in and "rescue" our sorry asses. none of his policies make any sense if he's really interested in bring UE down.

I sincerely believe that his ultimate goal is the creation of a centralized govt. that controls (and by default instills fear) into every facet of our lives. Obama craves power, plain and simple, and he's shown that he'll do whatever it takes to get it.

Posted by: volfan at October 16, 2009 06:50 PM (lF49h)

122

Thank a god that Raygun taught us that Raygun taught us that deficits don't matter, right Dick.

Right?

Posted by: Bob at October 16, 2009 06:50 PM (YyOdY)

123 "49 While on a treadmill last night and forced to watch CNN, I kept seeing a note on the screen crawl:  "Obama to critics:  'I'm just getting started!'"  My reaction last night was, "This from the man that promised us he'd be ready to lead from Day One?"  Unfortunately, with today's news that quote takes on a whole new meaning.  I think I was happier with last night's reaction.

Posted by: Greg at October 16, 2009 06:09 PM (PgC12)"

He's not kidding.  Go to the WH. gov website and the media pages and look what he has done in just three days, it will have your head spinning.  I kept asking all day if Bush made this many executive decisions and proclamations and ppointments and manadates.

Posted by: curious at October 16, 2009 06:51 PM (p302b)

124 we could save a trillion by brining the troops home and just having real "volunteers" carry on the fight.

Posted by: John ryan at October 16, 2009 06:51 PM (gj3cv)

125

Did you just calculate that from the known dimensions, or did you see the Fed actually do that back in March when they actually printed over a trillion?

Known dimensions.  Al Gore would cry like a little girl if they cut down enough trees to actually print that much.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2009 06:51 PM (rf03a)

126 Oh God, over at the Woman discards baby thread, Palin Steele is making disgusting remarks about Jane D-oh!'s miscarriage experience and now claims he'd fight her son. I say we go full force over there against him, those remarks by him were disgusting and i'm a pro-choice guy in the 1st trimester

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 06:51 PM (xNw7B)

127 Grassroots efforts need to keep going.  Tea Parties > Townhalls > 9/12 DC Protest > GOING ROGUE

Posted by: ParisParamus at October 16, 2009 06:52 PM (aJD1R)

128 And the "chickenhawk" meme comes out, right on cue.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 16, 2009 06:52 PM (r8/Km)

129
114 86..

When a person in court has taken an OATH to tell the truth"SO HELP YOU GOD",If that person LIES,that is called"PERJURY".There is a PUNISHMENT BY LAW!For that person. WHEN"OBAMA"TOOK THE OATH TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES,HE HAS NOT DONE SO. So he COMMITED PERJURY! Why has the Supreme Court not brought charges againist OBAMA the LIAR!


Posted by: sickinmass at October 16, 2009 06:54 PM (rYWEB)

130

"When confronted with something this unsustainable there's only two things to be done.

1- Spend untold trillions more taking over the nation's health insurance system.

and

2- Blame Bush."

You forgot:
3- Load magazines.
4- Sharpen your saber.
5- Make sure the creamed corn and canned bacon in your zombie-proof bunker aren't past their expiration date.

Posted by: Man in a zombie-proof bunker at October 16, 2009 06:55 PM (8wSLt)

131 Herr Morgenholz , you would make a good hunting buddy , despite that whole educated yankee thing ,  hanging like a millstone around your neck .
Do you hunt spring gobblers, by any chance ?

Posted by: akward davies at October 16, 2009 06:41 PM (wb68R)

First of all, sir, my education consists mostly of ass beatings from my Papa's belt.  I have a bachelor's in economics, and got an A in PC 302, which was the rest of my college experience, but my education came from the belt, the credit card companies, and a 35 year old woman when I was 19, so your assertion that I'm educated is perhaps misplaced.

As for being a Yankee, Great Great Grandpa got his ass shot off at Shiloh, and the fibers pulled out were Blue, so guilty.

I like turkeys in fall, mostly because the goobers are everywhere in the spring.  Season's in now, though I haven't gotten out.  Have to go to our camp about two hours away for that.  Ducks open tomorrow, and I'm apeshit about hunting ducks.


Posted by: The Invisible Hand at October 16, 2009 06:55 PM (lN56Y)

132 No shit.  I wouldn't mind as much us being hugely in debt if we actually had some grand science programs.  Like a NASA that actually dared to set foot on another planet.

And don't forget Tang!

Posted by: The 52% at October 16, 2009 06:56 PM (y4B2y)

133 I sincerely believe that his ultimate goal is the creation of a centralized govt. that controls (and by default instills fear) into every facet of our lives. Obama craves power, plain and simple, and he's shown that he'll do whatever it takes to get it.

Posted by: volfan at October 16, 2009 06:50 PM (lF49h)

My view of The Precedent's intentions is much worse than that.  He just wants to exact revenge on us and the West.  He feels that we have shamed his people (the third world), through our creativity, productivity, wealth, and general overachievement, and he is the avenging angel, come to bring us pain and reduce us to a smoldering ember.  I don't think his desires go far beyond this.  He doesn't care about redistributing money, he only wants to punish the rich and successful - cut them down to size, as it were.  He doesn't care about what governs this nation; he just wants us to suffer terribly.

If he ends up in control of something, he'd like that, but I don't see it as his goal.  The Precedent is a political suicide bomber who is perfectly happy to blow himself to bits, so long as he does great damage to our nation in the process.  That, so far as I can see, is all that he really cares about.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at October 16, 2009 06:56 PM (A46hP)

134 Can I borrow a dollar?

Posted by: rightzilla at October 16, 2009 06:56 PM (rVJH4)

135 I socked myself. Fuck me with a shovel.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 16, 2009 06:57 PM (lN56Y)

136 124 we could save a trillion by brining the troops home and just having real "volunteers" carry on the fight.

Posted by: John ryan at October 16, 2009 06:51 PM (gj3cv)

 

Awesome. When are all the lefties signing up to fight in Afghanistan, the really important war that Iraq was distracting us from?

Posted by: Warden at October 16, 2009 06:57 PM (QoR4a)

137 Invisible hand , is that you mein Herr ?

Posted by: akward davies at October 16, 2009 06:57 PM (wb68R)

138

Posted by: ParisParamus at October 16, 2009 06:52 PM (aJD1R)

if GOING ROGUE changes moderates and independent minds i'd agree w/ adding it to that list

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 06:58 PM (xNw7B)

139 137 Invisible hand , is that you mein Herr ?

I think so.  Perhaps his "morgenholz" drained his brain of necessary blood?

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at October 16, 2009 06:59 PM (otlXg)

140 Time to impact? one year? five?

Posted by: rawmuse at October 16, 2009 06:59 PM (ePlj6)

141 Still need a dollar. anybody got.a.dollar.

Posted by: rightzilla at October 16, 2009 07:00 PM (rVJH4)

142 Thanks ill tempered cur , that's just the kind of tome I'm looking for .

Glad to help. That's a good read, I think you'll enjoy it.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 16, 2009 07:00 PM (r8/Km)

143 Hey, YRM.  Thanks for the backup with that assclown Dum Dum on the baby thread. 

I'm off to make an apple pie with cheddar cheese crust for D'oh Boy.  (Want him to miss me just a little bit the next three months.)

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at October 16, 2009 07:01 PM (UOM48)

144 This is why you need to get behind Peter Schiff who is running against dude in CT.  He predicted this mess years ago. 

Posted by: curious at October 16, 2009 07:01 PM (p302b)

145

Of the $3.52 Trillion, about $2 Trillion are Social Security, Medicare/ Medicaid and interest payments; another $900 Billion is Defense.

The remaining $500 Billion funds every single thing the government does aside from the sacred cows listed above.

So to balance the budget, and avoid financial disaster, we are going to have to have some painful decisions to make.

Posted by: Reason60 at October 16, 2009 07:02 PM (NHwWM)

146 Time to impact? one year? five?

One.

Posted by: obama is a traitor at October 16, 2009 07:04 PM (Qt4Y7)

147 #138, I'm sure that phrase will get lots of play over the next few months, but Palin ain't seducing many more people than are already seduced.  Realizing that is fundamental to stopping Obama.

Posted by: ParisParamus at October 16, 2009 07:04 PM (aJD1R)

148 ...like resuscitating a guy who had a heart attack...

No. It's like throwing a drowning man an anchor.

Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2009 07:04 PM (FcR7P)

149 #144, does Schiff have a better chance than the woman who is running (the WWF spouse?)

Posted by: ParisParamus at October 16, 2009 07:05 PM (aJD1R)

150 Of the $3.52 Trillion, about $2 Trillion are Social Security, Medicare/ Medicaid and interest payments; another $900 Billion is Defense.

And of those, Defense and interest are the only legitimate federal functions.

Posted by: obama is a traitor at October 16, 2009 07:06 PM (Qt4Y7)

151

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at October 16, 2009 07:01 PM (UOM4

no problem. I'm personally a bit pro-choice (rape & incest occasions, very early into the pregnancy meaning a pill is used and it's not surgical), but when someone makes the kind of remark it does you have to be held accountable for mocking someone losing a child like that

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 07:06 PM (xNw7B)

152 #145  Of the $3.52 Trillion, about $2 Trillion are Social Security, Medicare/ Medicaid and interest payments; another $900 Billion is Defense.

Interesting, because just last year, I heard a prof at a lunch lament that so much is spent on Defense.  You're telling me that Defense (a Constitutionally mandated function of government) isn't most of the budget?  Say it isn't so!

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at October 16, 2009 07:06 PM (otlXg)

153 Barry isn't some closet Marxist. Not in the sense that he keeps a Little Red Book under his pillow and has hammer-n-sickle underwear. He is merely the apotheosis of the collectivist, leftard, unconstrained vision that dominates his true birthplace, the groves of Academe. He doesn't really dream of a red flag flying over the Capitol Dome. But he does think "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is the germ of an indispensable dogma. He doesn't long for a Komsomol or a Red Army Choir to sing his praises, but he does think a society that is monitored and subject to organized control of its every part is necessary to ensure that everything is "equal" and "fair." After all, we can't let people do anything they want, right?

Barry looks at an ant colony and sees a marvel of nature's organization and thinks "Surely we can be as efficient as the humble ant? Don't we owe The Children/The Disaffected/History/Gaia that much?" We look at an ant colony and see... ants. Whose vision is the more distorted?

Posted by: George Orwell at October 16, 2009 07:07 PM (AZGON)

154 124 we could save a trillion by brining the troops home and just having real "volunteers" carry on the fight.

Posted by: John ryan at October 16, 2009 06:51 PM (gj3cv)

The draft ended in 1973. Do you mean simply fighting in Afghanistan with Blackwater employees? Since they will be outside of the US chain of command, they would be exempt from all ROEs.

I could get behind that idea too, but I bet you didn't really think that one through, beyond a general and total troop withdrawal, because you really want to hand that country back to the Taliban. Is that right?

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at October 16, 2009 07:07 PM (H7Rlw)

155

Posted by: ParisParamus at October 16, 2009 07:05 PM (aJD1R)

that'd be the "WWE" chariman's spouse. I think Linda McMahon is a decent and kind person and could beat Dodd, but she is a moderate, though it'd be badass to have a politician that has a Wrestling past that isn't a 9/11 truther

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 07:08 PM (xNw7B)

156 the kind of remark it does

the kind of remark he did

FIFM (Fixed It For Me)

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 07:09 PM (xNw7B)

157 Palin ain't seducing many more people than are already seduced.

She's building a structure below the radar to allow her to influence events. Have you kept up with her Facebook postings?

Posted by: obama is a traitor at October 16, 2009 07:09 PM (Qt4Y7)

158 I think so.  Perhaps his "morgenholz" drained his brain of necessary blood?

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at October 16, 2009 06:59 PM (otlXg)

It happens.  Screw all y'all.  Go back to your chaos, of which you are doing a fine job sir.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 16, 2009 07:10 PM (lN56Y)

159
145

Of the $3.52 Trillion, about $2 Trillion are Social Security, Medicare/ Medicaid and interest payments; another $900 Billion is Defense.

The remaining $500 Billion funds every single thing the government does aside from the sacred cows listed above.

So to balance the budget, and avoid financial disaster, we are going to have to have some painful decisions to make.

Posted by: Reason60

I'd be glad to dump Social Security, Medicare/ Medicaid, and every single thing the government does... which takes care of 2.5 trillion $... AND let Mom and Dad live at my place... even though I am still paying the mortgage...

Oh, wait, their house is paid for, their cars are paid for, their pensions are paid for... They have no want to shack up here.

How the hell did we get 2.5 trillion $ in the red here...

Posted by: Druid at October 16, 2009 07:10 PM (Gct7d)

160 Actually, JR probably would want the Afghanis back under the Taliban.

Lefties do love their brown people when they're under the despotic boot.  Just look at their Central American and Southeast Asian policy history.

Posted by: Techie at October 16, 2009 07:10 PM (cxW4X)

161

Posted by: obama is a traitor at October 16, 2009 07:09 PM (Qt4Y7)

have you seen the polls?

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 07:11 PM (xNw7B)

162

Read this and tell me you aren't scared at the parallels.  Hat tip Big Govt.

Lessons from Chairman Mao

Posted by: Twinks at October 16, 2009 07:11 PM (uazP3)

163 46 Methos, my bad. They all deserve the blame. Bush for not pushing CRA reform. Repubs for acting like Dems. Dems for, well, acting like Dems.

Posted by: CDR M at October 16, 2009 06:08 PM

From what I have researched, Dubya and the GOP were pushing for reform of Fannie/Freddie as early as 2001. They pushed for it 2-3 times after that as well. Every time they were blocked by Democrats and ACORN and told that their efforts were racist.

Dubya is partly to blame for not vetoing TARP and the bailouts, but those were pretty much all Democrat bills. Also, as Rush points out every time Obama goes on his "the failed policies of the last 8 years" bullshit whine-fest, Obama voted for every single one of those bills (TARP and bailouts). Dubya also left it up to Obama whether or not to have Dubya sign the 2nd half of the bailout money (recall the $800 Billion, or whatever it was, was divided in two portions, one which went into effect immediately and the other which would be put into effect later, if needed. Obama endorsed Bush releasing the rest of those funds.

So when Obama can point to anything he did differently over the past 8 years, then he can claim to be "cleaning up their mess". It was HIS mess and the mess of his fellow Democrats in Congress.

I tire of this asshole (Obama) claiming no responsibility for the mess we are in now and pushing it onto GOP policies, which were working until the Democrats f'ed it all up starting in 2007 (and prior to that with their blocking Fannie/Freddie reform and helping/encouraging ACORN with their shakedowns).

Posted by: Michael in MI at October 16, 2009 07:12 PM (ObTcs)

164 So to balance the budget, and avoid financial disaster, we are going to have to have some painful decisions to make.

Yea, the Outfit painful like "where do bury Hoffa" only "Hoffa" is the already collecting state employee pensioners.

If oil decouples from the US Dollar the United States is toast.  I would really like to see some symposiums organized around the idea of the United States after oil divorces the US Dollar.

Posted by: WTFCI at October 16, 2009 07:13 PM (cuvqw)

165

How much is a Trillion?

Art Cashin via "The Virginian":

“Would you like a million dollars?” “I sure would, sir!”, I replied anxiously. “Then just put aside $500 every week for the next 40 years.” I have never forgotten that a million dollars is enough to pay you $500 per week for 40 years (and that’s without benefit of interest).

To get a billion dollars you would have to set aside $500,000 dollars per week for 40 years.

And a…..trillion that would require $500 million every week for 40 years. Even with these examples, the enormity is difficult to grasp.

Posted by: OCBill at October 16, 2009 07:13 PM (WGXy4)

166 POP @ 133

I'd agree with that to the extent that his ultimate goal is to diminish us to such an extent that out standing is "equitable" to the rest of the world. But before he can destroy us he must control us, which he's been doing a pretty good job of so far (anyone see the pay czar strip BoFA's CEO Lewis of his salary this year (yeah, retroactively too) - scary stuff).

So, what's the tipping point folks? His plans will work if he proceeds unopposed. But I get the sense that he may self-destruct if he has enough opposition to said plans; which has to be why he's rushing all of this through; either that of he knows that he's soon to be a political eunuch in the coming months/years with the economic shite storm that he's ushering in.

Posted by: volfan at October 16, 2009 07:13 PM (lF49h)

167 1- Spend untold trillions more taking over the nation's health insurance system.

There aren't enough trees to cut down if they wanted to actually print bills. If they keep manufacturing funny money like this, they will have to start making it out of... people!

The New Soylent Green!

Posted by: George Orwell at October 16, 2009 07:17 PM (AZGON)

168 have you seen the polls?

Which ones? A lot of people only know her from the image the MSM projects. On November 17th more than a million copies of her side of the story will hit the streets. Minds will be changed.

Posted by: obama is a traitor at October 16, 2009 07:18 PM (Qt4Y7)

169 #133  progressoverpeace

I agree completely.   I believe Soros supports him for his own ends, probably having speculated on the devaluing of the dollar.   But Obama doesn't care about that.

As you said,  he is about the destruction of this nation.   Every single decision and action he has made since January 20 has been the worst possible for the future of this country and her people.  Every.  Single.  One.

To predict what will happen in the next year and a half,  just imagine a crisis and then choose the worst thing to do in that situation;  that will be what Obama does.

He wants us all to suffer terribly.  I think the term "political suicide bomber" is quite apt.  I am going to post your comments on a private thread I frequent,  with credit to you.  The general public won't see it,  but I certainly hope some people see your comment here.   It's chillingly accurate.

Posted by: Miss Marple at October 16, 2009 07:21 PM (UQado)

170

#1 plus #2 = win!!!*

*Until it = lose.

Which appears to be coming very very soon.

Posted by: Knaws at October 16, 2009 07:24 PM (cYO0T)

171 22 Glad I got offered that job today. Time to hunker down and save, save, save.

Posted by: Trish at October 16, 2009 05:51 PM (0U5Kd)

 

Congrats on the job.  Buy things that have valie when money doesn't!

Posted by: mghorning at October 16, 2009 07:25 PM (Spd25)

172

Dear Diary,,

 

My plan to destroy the USofKKKA is right on track.  My allah, I do so love myself!!!

Til next time Dear Diary,,

 Barry

OsamaHusseinIslamObama  2012'
(the terrorist-Uighur-ACORN-media choice)
-It's never too early to campaign-   

Posted by: Barry Soetoro (D-King OF The World!) at October 16, 2009 07:26 PM (acZnC)

173 Tired of all of those calls from lenders?
For nations with over $15,000 (billion) in debt,
call 1-800-RED-CHINESE

Posted by: AE at October 16, 2009 07:26 PM (kSfPT)

174

Posted by: obama is a traitor at October 16, 2009 07:18 PM (Qt4Y7)

all the polls bud. the fact is indepdents don't like her.

that is a very good point about this book being her chance to change minds though. I hope so b/c Palin taking down Obama would be the most fun i'll have in politics if she can pull it off.

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 07:26 PM (xNw7B)

175 I like duck hunting too Herr . It's pretty tough here in South Carolina , though , what with them being called at and shot at all the way down the Atlantic flyway.

My great great grandfather was in northern Virginia wearing butternut .
Next time , let's make sure that our beloved sons are not shooting at each other . Let them instead turn their sights upon the followers of Mao and Marx .
 Resolved .

Posted by: akward davies at October 16, 2009 07:27 PM (wb68R)

176 Where are dum-dum and horseshit cloud to tell us that Bush did it, so why are we being hypocrites and complaining now?

Posted by: kbdabear at October 16, 2009 07:28 PM (sYxEE)

177 TEST

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 07:28 PM (Lm/+W)

178 Screw it, deficits don't matter.

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 07:29 PM (Lm/+W)

179 This is probably the reason that home in Vegas are being snapped up quickly for cash.  so first time home buyers and their tax credit don't have a chance there.  Diana Olick on CNBC is totally shocked.

Posted by: curious at October 16, 2009 07:32 PM (p302b)

180 There aren't enough trees to cut down if they wanted to actually print bills. If they keep manufacturing funny money like this, they will have to start making it out of... people!

The New Soylent Green!

I hate to break up the joke....but US currency is made from cotton and linen....no trees.

But the resulting cotton shortage would kill the blue jean industry worldwide. Save Levi Strauss!!!!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 16, 2009 07:33 PM (r8/Km)

181 But, but, the DOW IS OVER TEN THOUSANDS!!!!!111ONEONE!!11ELEVENTY!

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 16, 2009 07:34 PM (erIg9)

182 I like duck hunting too Herr . It's pretty tough here in South Carolina , though , what with them being called at and shot at all the way down the Atlantic flyway.

My great great grandfather was in northern Virginia wearing butternut .
Next time , let's make sure that our beloved sons are not shooting at each other . Let them instead turn their sights upon the followers of Mao and Marx .
 Resolved .

Posted by: akward davies at October 16, 2009 07:27 PM (wb68R)

They're shot at before they get to us in Ohio, too.  It's all in your decoy set, and after 25 years of doing it I'm still learning how to do it.  That's what makes it fun.

As for the war, shit happens.  Long time ago.  I tend to think that Lincoln damaged this country irrevocably by eroding states' rights by force.  We're reaping that particular harvest now.  Even though you boys talk funny, I'll take you in my foxhole.  Cheers!

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 16, 2009 07:35 PM (lN56Y)

183 The frightening thing is that with the miracle of compounding, this budget and deficit will explode exponentially. A 20 % increase at 4 trillion is 800 billion.
800 billion was the entire federal budget less than 10 years ago.
Not good at all.

Posted by: jjshaka at October 16, 2009 07:35 PM (rsp2z)

184 11 Summon the summoner of meteors.

Posted by: toby928 at October 16, 2009 05:45 PM (PD1tk)


Oh yeah, SUMMON THE METEORS

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 16, 2009 07:35 PM (erIg9)

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 07:36 PM (lN56Y)

186 Sorry #169  and  #133, I think you're both a lot nuts. And a lot of nuts is what I really dig - the more dangly the better.

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 07:38 PM (Lm/+W)

187 Nonsense, nonsense!

Deficits are only terrifying if they can be blamed on George W. Bush, even if they're just a fraction of Obama's.

I'm a Stupid Shit Liberal and I know this to be true.

Posted by: Stupid Shit Liberal at October 16, 2009 07:38 PM (QECjC)

188 For what it's worth- the market is at 10,000 but will stall IMO because companies have reported good earning due to cost cuts etc.
The revenues are uniformly below year ago levels- nothing going forward is going to help the top line short of job creation -which is not going to happen with the policies in place by Obama/Congress.

Posted by: jjshaka at October 16, 2009 07:40 PM (rsp2z)

189 YOU GUYS GOT TO GET OVER TO THE BABY THREAD, PALIN STEELE IS HAVING A BREAKDOWN

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 07:40 PM (xNw7B)

190 But the resulting cotton shortage would kill the blue jean industry worldwide. Save Levi Strauss!!!!

See, I told ya this nation was gonna be so broke it couldn't dress itself!!

Posted by: George Orwell at October 16, 2009 07:46 PM (AZGON)

191 JC jjshaka, maybe you should short the market and make a billion.
Speaking of short .... anyone know of any good penis extender equipment?

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 07:46 PM (Lm/+W)

192 I am going to post your comments on a private thread I frequent, with credit to you. The general public won't see it, but I certainly hope some people see your comment here. It's chillingly accurate.

Posted by: Miss Marple at October 16, 2009 07:21 PM

I passed it on as well.

Posted by: Michael in MI at October 16, 2009 07:47 PM (ObTcs)

193

Posted by: volfan at October 16, 2009 07:13 PM (lF49h)

BTW, volfan, I didn't mean to imply that I disagreed with your view that The Precedent wants to centralize all power.  I am in 100% agreement on that, as the little political philosophy that can actually fit into the Precedent's pea-brain makes him a die hard staticist, which leads to the idea that all things can be centralized.  In addition, his power-hungry nature makes him desire to hold the reins of all power.  To me, that is just the surface - something to pass time and make it look.  My post was more about what I htink he is really working towards and his much deeper motivations.  And I would just add that I don't think he wants us to equalize ... he wants us to suffer.

 

Posted by: Miss Marple at October 16, 2009 07:21 PM (UQado)

Thank you very much, Miss Marple.  The more eyes, the better. I am honored.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at October 16, 2009 07:47 PM (A46hP)

194

Who gives a fuck?

I made a killing on the stock market in Ethiopia, so suck it wingnuts!

Posted by: poot at October 16, 2009 07:49 PM (I3Udb)

195 In the future, our money will be printed in denominations with exponents. It will have to be. We won't be able to afford a wheelbarrow to carry the stacks of worthless greenbacks if the largest is the Wilson 100,000 dollar bill.

Posted by: George Orwell at October 16, 2009 07:49 PM (AZGON)

196

Posted by: Michael in MI at October 16, 2009 07:47 PM (ObTcs)

Wow.  Thank you, too, Michael. 

I'm off to Shabbat dinner, now.  Time to try and instill some sense into a few liberal Jews.  Yes ... yes ... it's a thankless task, usually a waste of time, but I still hold out some hope.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at October 16, 2009 07:52 PM (A46hP)

197 I'm 100% fully invested in used boys underwear.

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 07:52 PM (Lm/+W)

198

"In issuing the final budget figures, top administration officials said the president was determined to get control of the deficits in coming years."

 

In related news, president Barak Obama, it has been announced, has won the Nobel Prize in economics.

Posted by: Max Entropy at October 16, 2009 07:52 PM (uuZjB)

199 In the future, our money will be printed in denominations with exponents. It will have to be.

"Man, you got 10Xe14 I can hork?  I'm more flat busted than a Roman Polanski Saturday night"

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 16, 2009 07:54 PM (I30wK)

200

Akward Davies - read Guerilla Warfare by Che Guevara.  The guy was talented - evil, but talented. 

Speaking of Che, the news these past few weeks is depressing on all fronts.  Things are moving towards fight-or-flight time.  Anyone have any good ideas on a place to migrate to? 

Posted by: penultimatum at October 16, 2009 07:57 PM (CIKgX)

201 Dear Diary,, Nancy and I came up with a new dollar design that is sure to be a hit next year. It is a trillion dollar bill with my likeness on the front, and Nacy's likeness on the reverse, with a back ground of little Michelles and Oprahs on both sides!! Of course George Soros will get his signature placed right under my fantabouls image!! SWEET!!! I'm feeling really up right now, I'm in a very, very special place......... Til next time Dear Diary,, Barry OsamaHusseinIslamObama 2012' (the terrorist-Uighur-ACORN-media choice) -It's never too early to campaign-

Posted by: Barry Soetoro (D-King OF The World!) at October 16, 2009 07:57 PM (acZnC)

202 I porked over 2.5 x 10E4 women.

Posted by: Wilt Chamberlain at October 16, 2009 07:58 PM (AZGON)

203 197 Buy gold silly cons, buy gold.

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 07:52 PM (Lm/+W)


I do, thanks. It's the one thing you retarded libs can't possibly screw up.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 16, 2009 07:58 PM (erIg9)

204 I'm just busy with this mop cleaning up "someone else's mess".  Anybody know which end to use?

Posted by: Barack "The Janitor" Obama at October 16, 2009 07:59 PM (wAQA5)

205 Meteor, are you buying just pure gold, or also include rare gold coins? My mom gave me $4 for my allowance and I want to know what to buy.

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 08:00 PM (Lm/+W)

206 Barry, use the end of the MOP with the impact fuse.

Posted by: George Orwell at October 16, 2009 08:00 PM (AZGON)

207 #191 LOL- so clever!
Can't short IRA's my lad and I won't do covered calls.
Plenty of good opportunities- just not here.
Buy a Canadian Fund. You're welcome

Posted by: jjshaka at October 16, 2009 08:01 PM (rsp2z)

208 Juan Williams in for O'Reilly?

Juan ain't a lefty nut, but he is a lefty.

So far he seems pretty fair.

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 08:01 PM (xNw7B)

209 Juan was told to go back to the porch?

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 08:03 PM (xNw7B)

210 Have I used up my 2.85 x 10E-5 years of fame yet?

Posted by: Falcon Heene at October 16, 2009 08:03 PM (AZGON)

211 Oh my. Now the "conservatives" are worried about deficits. The only deficit I care about, wingers, is the one between my butt cheeks. Now someone fill it, please, before I get cranky!

Posted by: erg at October 16, 2009 08:05 PM (Ogqm2)

212
wow there's a nasty spam in the Hiding In The Attic Boy thread below

from...

libya?

Posted by: Tweet Express. Don't leave home without it. at October 16, 2009 08:06 PM (AlREO)

213 "Buy a Canadian Fund. You're welcome"
--
jjshaka, if we go down, you and the world are coming with us.

And by we, I mean I. And by coming with me, I mean coming in my mouth

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 08:06 PM (Lm/+W)

214
oh hi eggmcmuffin!

you're wrong and...well, you know the rest, cocksucker

Posted by: Tweet Express. Don't leave home without it. at October 16, 2009 08:08 PM (AlREO)

215 I'm so glad demotards have seen the brilliance of my person and come over to my side, now that I am larger than ever. But I do wonder why Obastard's minions keep talking about "getting me under control." I know they are lying, but is this really necessary?

Feed me, demotards, you will feed me.

Posted by: Big Deficit at October 16, 2009 08:09 PM (AZGON)

216 177 TEST

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 07:28 PM (Lm/+W)

 

I believe the correct entry is; "Kenneth, what's the frequency"!

Posted by: mghorning at October 16, 2009 08:09 PM (Spd25)

217

Ah yes my boy Juan,,, It was just a matter of time before I infiltrated the EVIL FOX NEWS!!  All your FOX are belong to ME!!!!!

Barry

OsamaHusseinIslamObama  2012'
(the terrorist-Uighur-ACORN-media choice)
-It's never too early to campaign-   

 

Posted by: Barry Soetoro (D-King OF The World!) at October 16, 2009 08:10 PM (acZnC)

218 my buttcheeks are spread and ready for whoever wants in

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 08:10 PM (Lm/+W)

219 OK, whose dick can I suck first?

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 08:12 PM (7FgWm)

220

That's right buy gold,, don't buy ammo,, buy gold!!

Barry

OsamaHusseinIslamObama  2012'
(the terrorist-Uighur-ACORN-media choice)
-It's never too early to campaign-   

Posted by: Barry Soetoro (D-King OF The World!) at October 16, 2009 08:12 PM (acZnC)

221 Juan is criticizing Obama's always campaigning mode

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 08:13 PM (xNw7B)

222  And then when you knuckleheads find the value of gold is equal to the value of what's in your ass, blame the Stimulus.

gold ... in my ass. Mmmmmmm!

Posted by: erg at October 16, 2009 08:14 PM (Ogqm2)

223
219 OK, whose dick can I suck first?

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 08:12 PM (7FgWm)

Mine! Mine!!!

Posted by: Henry Wallace at October 16, 2009 08:14 PM (7+pP9)

224 And on a lighter note, I wish you guys could smell my kitchen.  Pie!

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at October 16, 2009 08:16 PM (UOM48)

225 wow on O'Reilly the guy on the rep side gave props to Clinton & the guy on the dem side struck back w/ anti-Bush crap while talking about how the dems are the bipartisan people

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 08:17 PM (xNw7B)

226

Finally, some good news!

http://tinyurl.com/ykj3rv3

Posted by: RushBabe at October 16, 2009 08:18 PM (LKkE8)

227 211 Oh my. Now the "conservatives" are worried about deficits. Seems the only verity in your philosophy is the conservation of national debt.

Fucking hypocrites. Eight years of Bush, and it's now oooooh, deficits.

Posted by: Henry Wallace at October 16, 2009 08:05 PM (Ogqm2)



you're wrong, and you don't even know why you're wrong. now go get your friggin' shinebox, bitch.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 16, 2009 08:18 PM (erIg9)

228 I wish you guys could smell my kitchen.

Is this a new euphemism?  To the urban dictionary, batman!

Posted by: toby928 at October 16, 2009 08:18 PM (PD1tk)

229 What the hell does "go back to the porch" mean?  I've got a porch.  A front one and a screened one on the back.  Is that evil?  At least Juan's not crazy libtard.  I love that his son is a conservative.  Heh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at October 16, 2009 08:19 PM (UOM48)

230 oh God the Clinton speech writer said he has a 53% approval rating, well w/ likely voters it's at 47%! he then actually dared to call W. Bush the most partisan president ever

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 08:19 PM (xNw7B)

231 Toby.  Heh.  Kitchen = peanut butter? 

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at October 16, 2009 08:20 PM (UOM48)

232 Thanks penultimatum .

Posted by: akward davies at October 16, 2009 08:20 PM (wb68R)

233

Line up, men.....I'm ready for action. Just let me bend over.

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 08:20 PM (7FgWm)

234

Looks like Henry Wallace is all about the desolution of don't ask don't tell.....  I'll refer to him as Michelle from here on out!

Barry

OsamaHusseinIslamObama  2012'
(the terrorist-Uighur-ACORN-media choice)
-It's never too early to campaign-   

Posted by: Barry Soetoro (D-King OF The World!) at October 16, 2009 08:21 PM (acZnC)

235

Posted by: RushBabe at October 16, 2009 08:18 PM (LKkE

how a guy that bashed the network he worked on and defended cop killers and communists stayed on as long as he did I have no clue

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 08:21 PM (xNw7B)

236

The cross-eyed basta#$% is gone and none of you have anything to say?

226

Finally, some good news!

http://tinyurl.com/ykj3rv3

Posted by: RushBabe at October 16, 2009 08:18 PM (LKkE

Posted by: RushBabe at October 16, 2009 08:22 PM (LKkE8)

237 Posted by: Henry Wallace at October 16, 2009 08:05 PM (Ogqm2)

you do know the only way you get approval ratings that are 22-34 through out your last year is by ticking off your own base ie for Bush: conservatives?

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 08:22 PM (xNw7B)

238 The minions or ace himself just love me here.

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 08:22 PM (Lm/+W)

239
By '10, when we're ear deep in the shit that is the obama precedency, eyes will be opened by the mess that the malicious dumbshit is making.  Just have to hold it together that long.  Otherwise the barbarians get in the gates and it's survival of the baddest. 

Posted by: Dang Straights at October 16, 2009 08:22 PM (hsEnY)

240 damn, Juan is sounding conservative today

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 08:23 PM (xNw7B)

241 And on a lighter note, I wish you guys could smell my kitchen.  Pie!

holy stit, Batman!
BUNK!!!!!

Posted by: sickinmass at October 16, 2009 08:24 PM (rYWEB)

242 211 Oh my. Now the "conservatives" are worried about deficits. Seems the only verity in your philosophy is the conservation of national debt.

Fucking hypocrites. Eight years of Bush, and it's now oooooh, deficits.

Posted by: Henry Wallace at October 16, 2009 08:05 PM (Ogqm2)

Please do look up "tu quoque" on a philosophy page.

Posted by: logprof at October 16, 2009 08:25 PM (I3Udb)

243 #240 YRM

Juan can bring the sanity to the table on occasion.  But just when you begin to trust him, he brings the crazy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at October 16, 2009 08:25 PM (UOM48)

244
Otherwise the barbarians get in the gates and it's survival of the baddest.

You know I'm bad, c'mon, you know it !

Posted by: Zombie Michael Jackson at October 16, 2009 08:27 PM (KeHPo)

245 jane d'oh:  just getting back to you.  what did you do with your traitor of a B-I-L last night?

Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 16, 2009 08:28 PM (TEIZr)

246

What the hell does "go back to the porch" mean?  I've got a porch.  A front one and a screened one on the back.  Is that evil?  At least Juan's not crazy libtard.  I love that his son is a conservative.  Heh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at October 16, 2009 08:19 PM (UOM4

It means "go back to da Massuh's porch". It's calling Juan an Uncle Tom.

Posted by: Tinian at October 16, 2009 08:28 PM (7+pP9)

247 245 jane d'oh:  just getting back to you.  what did you do with your traitor of a B-I-L last night?

Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 16, 2009 08:28 PM (TEIZr)


So this brother in law walks into a club...

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 16, 2009 08:29 PM (erIg9)

248 So this brother in law walks into a club...

45-50 times says the coroner...

Posted by: somejoe at October 16, 2009 08:30 PM (KeHPo)

249

Dear Diary,,

Next week I will roll out my plan to tax the smells of pie in the kitchen,,, and of course pie itself.  I am sooooooooooo brillant!!

Til next time Dear Diary,,

 Barry

OsamaHusseinIslamObama  2012'
(the terrorist-Uighur-ACORN-media choice)
-It's never too early to campaign-   

 

Posted by: Barry Soetoro (D-King OF The World!) at October 16, 2009 08:31 PM (acZnC)

250 somejoe, yes it's a damned shame, that.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 16, 2009 08:31 PM (erIg9)

251

So this brother in law walks into a club...

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor 


45-50 times says the coroner...

SNORT!

Posted by: sickinmass at October 16, 2009 08:31 PM (rYWEB)

252 Bush's deficits caused this meltdown. Obama's deficits will fix it.

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 08:33 PM (Lm/+W)

253 #245 Kelley

He left this morning.  Never apologized.  I deliberately stayed in bed and didn't make breakfast.  A first for me. 

And I began to get seriously pissed with Mr. D'oh as the day progressed.  We were to go to an oyster roast tonight, but I sent D'oh Boy in my place.  My husband is an idiot.  Can't understand why I can't get "over" 25 years of his sibs' abuse.  I'm ready to kick some ass.  So that's my fun Friday night. 

Oh, BinL is single.  And on the prowl.  Looking for wife #4.  Look out Atlanta moronettes. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at October 16, 2009 08:33 PM (UOM48)

254 252 Cons, you have been wrong about absolutely everything..

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 08:33 PM (Lm/+W)


Examples please, and show your work. Otherwise, I'm going to have to give you another failing grade.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 16, 2009 08:35 PM (erIg9)

255
BinL = Loser
Obama = Same

Posted by: sickinmass at October 16, 2009 08:36 PM (rYWEB)

256

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 08:33 PM (Lm/+W)

got historical proof this is even possible?

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 08:36 PM (xNw7B)

257

Inflation must be setting in.

Axelrod is getting much less troll for the dollar.

Posted by: logprof at October 16, 2009 08:37 PM (I3Udb)

258 "Examples please"

---

"Trickle down", Krugman says its a delusion. I pretty much believe him, but this sticky white stuff trickling down the back of my legs appears to be real.

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 08:37 PM (Lm/+W)

259

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at October 16, 2009 08:33 PM (UOM4

is it me or do libs tend to divorce more then once or twice?

yeah lonely night for me too, my gf is out doing a "girl's night out" thing and has a paper to work on tomm. and sunday night so i won't see her for a little while

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 08:38 PM (xNw7B)

260 See, you idjits shoulda jumped ship when I did. Nancy and Harry and Barocky are going to take goooood care of me n sharputa n trouser trout. too bad you'll be beggin us for bike rides.

Posted by: Chfukles at October 16, 2009 08:39 PM (yANMF)

261 January 4th 2007:  The day Pelosi became Speaker of the Democratically controlled 110th Congress

DJIA end of session:  12,800.18
National unemployment rate for December 2006:  4.5%
2006 Federal Budget Deficit:  $247.7 billion
Average GDP growth for 2006:   3.4%
Median Home Value in December 2006: $244,700   June 2009 $181,800
Average price for Regular Unleaded Gasoline December 2006:  $2.30
Federal Debt as % of GDP  2006:  64.55  2008:  70.00  2009(projected):  90.36
Nonfarm employment in thousands   Dec 2006:  137,000   June 2009:  131,488

Posted by: yeah, I need to update it at October 16, 2009 08:39 PM (PD1tk)

262 how the hell does that sheriff think it wasn't a hoax?

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 08:41 PM (xNw7B)

263 Mmmm... let me taste this stuff. Yup, it's what I thought it was. Delish!

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 08:42 PM (Lm/+W)

264

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 08:42 PM (Lm/+W)

that's your proof? history never has proven Krugman right

Posted by: YRM at October 16, 2009 08:45 PM (xNw7B)

265 Comon cons, you have to admit that when I have a trickle crap it feels pretty awesome.

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 08:48 PM (Lm/+W)

266 why are where we are today???

January 4th 2007:  The day Pelosi became Speaker of the Democratically controlled 110th Congress

DJIA end of session:  12,800.18
National unemployment rate for December 2006:  4.5%
2006 Federal Budget Deficit:  $247.7 billion
Average GDP growth for 2006:   3.4%
Median Home Value in December 2006: $244,700   August 2009 $177,500
Average price for Regular Unleaded Gasoline December 2006:  $2.30
Federal Debt as % of GDP  2006:  64.55  2008:  70.00  2009(projected):  90.36
Nonfarm employment in thousands   Dec 2006:  137,000   September 2009:  130,947


Posted by: *cough* at October 16, 2009 08:49 PM (PD1tk)

267 Who's the scared little libtard who "uninvited" the Jim Gilchrist from speaking at Hahvahd?  He asked Juan to "go easy" on him 'cause he's nervous, or something.  What a puss. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at October 16, 2009 08:52 PM (UOM48)

268 POP @ 193
"And I would just add that I don't think he wants us to equalize ... he wants us to suffer."

POP,

Your posts are the best - keep 'em coming. I don't disagree that he wants us (meaning non-marxists) to suffer and that his policies are meant to destroy, not build, our nation. I guess that's it's tough to get your mind around the fact that our current leaders' mission is to diminish us rather than make us stronger. Our only hope is that Obama is showing signs of losing steam and his true intentions are beliefs are starting to become evident. Your description of O as a political suicide bomber hits home - it's accurate and frightening.

Posted by: volfan at October 16, 2009 08:55 PM (lF49h)

269 Herr morgenholz , twenty five yrs. duck hunting ,eh ? Man I can relate .
 I've been hunting spring gobblers for twenty yrs. Two yrs ago I killed five birds here at home , the legal limit , all of them three yrs old or better, and two Merriams in Nebraska for a total of seven mature birds in one year .The next year , skunked , punked , humiliated .
I will be learning how to hunt until the day I die .

Back on topic , hell , talk of deficit spending makes my head hurt . I ain't smart enough or rich enough for that shit to really make sense to me . I appreciate ya'll being so welcoming  , though .
Bout' all I can glean from these threads is , we're universally screwed .

Watch your topknot , morons .
 



Posted by: akward davies at October 16, 2009 08:56 PM (wb68R)

270 Cons, I RayGun, define the eunuch. Leftism.

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 09:01 PM (Lm/+W)

271

Remember the good old days when everyone worked to advance their careers, to make more money so they could buy land and a bigger house and travel once in awhile and pay for frivilolities like braces and such?

Yeah, now those people are working two, three and four part-time, minimum wage paying jobs just so they don't lose their house and can pay the insurance on the car that they can barely keep gas in.  Hey, 52%!  How's it working out for you?

Posted by: katya at October 16, 2009 09:04 PM (5DiL1)

272 See, what did I tell you on the Ballon kid thread.  Everyone was waiting for the Friday document dump. I am soooo psychic, it hurts. It hurts.

Posted by: The Management at October 16, 2009 09:05 PM (V9SYy)

273

When confronted with something this unsustainable there's only two things to be done.

1- Spend untold trillions more taking over the nation's health insurance system.and

2- Blame Bush.

Channeling Paul Krugman are you? Fiscal responsibility is only for those suckers that pay off their mortgages. 


Posted by: rian at October 16, 2009 09:07 PM (G5p2r)

274

 I deliberately stayed in bed and didn't make breakfast. 

Should have e-mailed me an address. I would have made belgium waffles with my Father's very special chocolate sauce.  

Hey, maybe Raygun can tell me what cardboard box he is sleeping out of tonight. Be more than willing to help with breakfast tomorrow.

Posted by: Mallamutt at October 16, 2009 09:08 PM (V9SYy)

275 Cons, I RayGun, define desperate for attention. Internet trolling.

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 09:08 PM (Lm/+W)

276 Could I be a more pathetic case? Spewing inanities in a desperate attempt to get someone to do something so small as NOTICE me?

Do you think I'd spend my time like this if I felt respected and appreciated?

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 09:11 PM (Lm/+W)

277

Obama's deficits will fix it.

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Posted by: katya at October 16, 2009 09:12 PM (5DiL1)

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Posted by: *cough* at October 16, 2009 08:49 PM (PD1tk) "

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Posted by: curious at October 16, 2009 09:13 PM (p302b)

279 Yes-- but it's not bigger than BHO's ego-- so there's hope.

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Posted by: calcajun at October 16, 2009 09:13 PM (ka/Rr)

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Posted by: jainphx at October 16, 2009 09:21 PM (GodCW)

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Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 09:21 PM (Lm/+W)

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Posted by: curious at October 16, 2009 09:13 PM (p302b)


there's a difference?

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 16, 2009 09:23 PM (erIg9)

283 Gad, erg. You're still peddling this tired schtick?

Shorter Orszag: "It was necessary to destroy the economy in order to save it."

Posted by: geoff at October 16, 2009 09:24 PM (PvVlM)

284 #281  Right, maybe you should quite reading the good book of fairy tales so much. That's 3/4s of the cons problems.

All of the Lefties, such as yourself, GayRun, problems stem from the fact that they take The Communist Manifesto and Das Capital as instruction guides.

Ahh, I hear ace, the hypocrite, at it again ... Big brother, are you there?

Here's your twisted logic:

Ace keeping his own website relatively stupid troll-ranting free = Big Brother

The Obama Administration going after private individuals = Freedom and Flowers!

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at October 16, 2009 09:26 PM (otlXg)

285 [Comment Deleted]

-Ace of Spades Fairness Doctrine

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 09:32 PM (Lm/+W)

286    How does this number compare to the well-known chart showing the projected deficit each year, with both Obama admin. and CBO estimates? If it's larger than either, we really need to add it to the chart.

Posted by: Jim at October 16, 2009 09:32 PM (E/nlz)

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Posted by: calcajun at October 16, 2009 09:33 PM (ka/Rr)

288 Anyone get the impression that Obama Care is our economic Stalingrad?

Posted by: calcajun at October 16, 2009 09:34 PM (ka/Rr)

289 RayGun the parrot. 

Why can't cons face reality? And once you do, you're party is gone.

This is rich, given your futile attempts to explain why Bush's deficit is "bad" while Obama's much better deficit is "good".

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at October 16, 2009 09:35 PM (otlXg)

290 OT:  Just saw the clip of the "little" 4th grade boy asking the pres that question.  Am I the only one who thought that was a set up question?  Heck the 4th graders I know would not ask that kind of question unless they were told to do so, it's impolite and they would know it.

Posted by: curious at October 16, 2009 09:36 PM (p302b)

291 I know would not ask that kind of question unless they were told to do so, it's impolite and they would know it.

Posted by: curious at October 16, 2009 09:36 PM (p302b)

Uhmm are you new to this Obama politic thing? Do you honestly believe that Obama could fill a auditorium with people that only approve of him right now without setting it up?

Nothing is Random with Obama.

Posted by: US Senators at October 16, 2009 09:40 PM (fwSHf)

292

Posted by: akward davies at October 16, 2009 08:56 PM (wb68R)

I was out in the barn getting decoys and ammo together for tomorrow.  Always a magical time.  Except for the cussing, as you wonder where all your shit is.

Hunting will be the new derivatives trade "Meat for sale" the new stock market, sadly.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 16, 2009 09:42 PM (h/zKr)

293 Anyone get the impression that Obama Care is our economic Stalingrad?

Posted by: calcajun at October 16, 2009 09:34 PM (ka/Rr)

Kursk.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 16, 2009 09:43 PM (h/zKr)

294 Herr, those that hunt eat. Those that don't, starve.

it's coming.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacons, and the Occasional Meteor at October 16, 2009 09:44 PM (erIg9)

295 [Comment Deleted]

-Ace of Spades Fairness Doctrine

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 09:45 PM (Lm/+W)

296 "Posted by guest | Permalink Friday, October 16, 2009 8:15 PM

I don't know if Rush is a racist but he is surely a bigot and a sexist. That is without question."

Geez, you can't make this stuff up.  Where do people get this stuff?   How can a person say something so definitively, with no supporting evidence and not being challenged at all?   On a legal blog no less.

Posted by: curious at October 16, 2009 09:45 PM (p302b)

297

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 09:45 PM (Lm/+W)

It's a sad comment on my life that I'm waiting for what the designated Trollbuster of the evening does with this post.  Please, make it involve a chicken.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 16, 2009 09:47 PM (h/zKr)

298 [Comment Deleted]

-Ace of Spades Fairness Doctrine

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 09:45 PM (Lm/+W)

I said a chicken, bitch.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 16, 2009 09:48 PM (h/zKr)

299 [Comment Deleted]

-Ace of Spades Fairness Doctrine

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 09:49 PM (Lm/+W)

300

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 09:49 PM (Lm/+W)

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301 Keep fucking that chicken? Hell, I'm giving it a rimjob!

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 09:55 PM (Lm/+W)

302 Thanks, Trollbuster.  Can you get Herr off my ass now?

Posted by: The Chicken at October 16, 2009 09:55 PM (h/zKr)

303 Just gotta stay away from the beak and claws ... that's the key to romancing one of these birds.

It's pretty great when one lays an egg while you're 69-ing it. Just slide that sucker in your butt while it's still warm and WHAMMO! Double your pleasure.

Posted by: RayGun at October 16, 2009 09:56 PM (Lm/+W)

304 Obama makes me want to puke and cry, in no definate order.

Posted by: Oil Field Trash at October 16, 2009 09:56 PM (x11RZ)

305 I can sleep well now.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 16, 2009 10:00 PM (h/zKr)

306 293 Anyone get the impression that Obama Care is our economic Stalingrad?

Posted by: calcajun at October 16, 2009 09:34 PM (ka/Rr)

Kursk.

Bless you!

Posted by: calcajun at October 16, 2009 10:00 PM (ka/Rr)

307

We really are in uncharted territory.  In 1945 when we last had this level of debt relative to GDP, conditions in the world were vastly different.  After years of world war, preceded by years of the Great Depression, followed by bombing the stuffins out of the rest of the industrial world, the US was the world's only industrial power, period.  Sixteen million men came home from war, started familes, and went to work.  The factory jobs supported the tens of millions of little boomers, the US had 6% of the world population but 50% of its industrial output in the 1950's. 

The economic & political conditions that existed in 1945 do not exist today.  It's a brave new world out there.

Posted by: Boots at October 16, 2009 10:44 PM (06JTY)

308 Whose idea was it anyway to think we could jsut exist as a country by outsourcing all our manufacturing to other countries and jsut make money by moving money and in service industries?  The world may be cheering now, they can taste their victory, but really they will be th losers too.  When there are no new drugs or new technology.  Sure, they will eventually develop it but, short of the US being so desperate that we sell even that, everyone will lose.

Posted by: curious at October 16, 2009 10:54 PM (p302b)

309

@101: "You're forgetting the Second Amendment. And over 3 billion rounds of private ammo, and climbing."

Won't matter, not even in the slightest.  Yes, there may be a few small skirmishes, and the odd last stand of an individual or small band, but most will give up without a fight.  If they were going to fight, they'd have done it already.

If stuff gets really bad, most of the ammo will go unused, although I would expect to see more scenarios where people do their entire family and then themself.

 

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at October 16, 2009 11:19 PM (vupGF)

310 "If stuff gets really bad, most of the ammo will go unused, although I would expect to see more scenarios where people do their entire family and then themself."

Really bad, as in, how? Like, mass starvation, really bad - b/c if that happens only those w/guns will eat - and the Federal govt. might as well be Disneyland insofar as their help in keeping your belly full at the end of the day. And, this may be a stretch here, but we gun owners generally hold our families in high regard, so I wouldn't expect too many of us to go Goebbels on them - only cowards take that path. Americans are many things, but being without courage isn't one of them.

Posted by: volfan at October 16, 2009 11:37 PM (lF49h)

311

@310: "I wouldn't expect too many of us to go Goebbels on them - only cowards take that path. Americans are many things, but being without courage isn't one of them."

People have already started whacking their families - not hordes of them, but there have been cases alreay.  Lose their job, facing the loss of their house, and *bang bang*.  In at least one case, it looke the like who family pretty much agreed with the deal.  Scary stuff.

Some Americans have courage, yes.  At this point, I don't know if "most" or even "enough" do.  Even if enough do, there isn't much in the way of leadership to coordinate them.  The Founding Fathers would already have shredded their vocal cords from screaming "What the fuck are you waiting for?!?!?" though.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at October 16, 2009 11:57 PM (vupGF)

312 Recap, students...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmkiJ2gSyNI

Posted by: Richard at October 17, 2009 12:43 AM (ijygO)

313 We are truly fu*ked. Raw dog style. Screwed up big time.

Posted by: eating narcissus at October 17, 2009 12:49 AM (SE2xN)

314 306 293 Anyone get the impression that Obama Care is our economic Stalingrad?
Posted by: calcajun at October 16, 2009 09:34 PM (ka/Rr)


You have my permission to tell'em "nuts" as well.
Carry on.

Posted by: Zombie General McAuliffe at October 17, 2009 12:57 AM (fUNEl)

315 70

I'll show you a frightening glimpse into the life of an Obama voter. My friend took me to a "theater benefit" which was really a rent part for a bunch of Pratt brats living in a dirty loft. When my friend and I went downstairs, there was a disconnected washer and dryer with the following note taped to it. Verbatim.

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Dear Tenants -

We can no longer offer free wash. It sucks, we know. But at this time, this washing machine costs about $10 EACH WASH. This has to do with the strange way Con Edison charges us for electricity. If we go over a certain amount of usage per month in this whole space, we get an added $200 charge per month. Plus, the cost of energy in the US fluctuates like crazy, so it is entirely unpredictable. One month we get a $300 bill and the next we get an $800 bill for the same usage, and there is no way to know.

What we do know is that in the past two months since we have had this machine (especially the dryer) running, we have had nearly double the amount of electricity usage.

We want to try to maintain the base charge of $75 per month for gas, electricity and internet service, but we can't do that if we want the following things:

Washing machine and dryer
Air conditioning
Space heaters (except in Becky's room)

If you want any of these items, we have to work it out. But at this point, with the cost of these machines out of control, it makes no sense not to use the laundromat down the street. I have disconnected the machine If you want, you can arrange to pay us $10 a wash, but that's crazy.

About air conditioners for the summer, we will have to figure out how much it costs and charge accordingly.

Anyway, I will post the electricity bills so you can see the problem. If there is a different way of figuring it out, we will.

But since Hurricane Katrina happened, energy bills in commercial spaces (which we are due to zoning) are out of control.

If you are mad about this (as I am), then we should protest at Con Edison... or piss on Ronald Reagan's goddamn grave. The government doesn't fucking care about you or anyone else trying to get by anymore. They want us to pay for Enron style market based energy politicies (sic) at the expense of our personal hygiene, warmth and general quality of life.


Posted by: Tattoo DePlane at October 17, 2009 01:04 AM (VLYnh)

316 I'm not drunk enough to read the last paragraph in 315.

Posted by: Doc at October 17, 2009 01:51 AM (rzJpR)

317

The Dems are so high on Obama pixie dust they are bent on shooting the

whole wad NOW. The painful detox phase will come. Obama's smirk will

fade. The race-pimps will lose the strut. Chris Matthews will no longer

orgasm on Obama's words. Sack-cloth and ashes for all these bastards

is on order. It's coming.

Posted by: Trajan at October 17, 2009 02:43 AM (2O6Jd)

318

Two posts in and it's politics.

The problem with this country isn't the economy - it's politics.

It infects everything.

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Posted by: Teafran at October 17, 2009 08:02 AM (vBy52)

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Maybe I'm not just a retarded hippie.

Posted by: Techie at October 17, 2009 11:06 AM (cxW4X)

320 Frankly, I'd like to stand them all against a wall and shoot their traitorous asses. But the more likely outcome is that they are going to try to throw me in a FEMA camp and send me up the smokestack. I got no use for the whole bunch of them.

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There have been no FDIC bank closures since the first week of October.

Do you think that's because there are no failing banks, or because the FDIC has just run out of money?

Can't believe this thread is still going. But for what its worth, I believe the FDIC hasn't closed any banks because they need the three year prepaid assessment from them in order to operate.  Once paid, cash in hand, then you'll see a spate of closures. 

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Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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