1 You bloggers have a lot of fun diggin up quotes don't you?

2 Besides, this is not really support of an illegal war. Everybody in the world will lay down their weapons soon and carry flowers since I have been elected.
The continuing presence of US troops in Iraq should now be seen as an effort to save military jobs. How many jobs have I saved already?
Man, I'm better than even I thought.

3 I don't care what you nut jobs say, I still love Him!

He is going to pay my mortgage and buy gas for my car!

4 I thought Obama was great when he was buyin' my gas at 4 bucks a gallon,  now?  not so much...what?  He never was buyin' my gas?!!  Damn, now I am confused.

5 So his promise was withdrawing combat troops only and not residual troops. So do combat troops turn into residual when they return to base from a patrol?  If combat breaks out when we only have residual troops there will they have to be replaced with combat troops? Pvt Smith reporting for residual duty sir!  

6 No blood for unicorns.

7 Why I find truly amazing and awe-inspiring about the man is how effortlessly he has modified his incredibly intelligent and nuanced positions to more accurately reflect reality.  It is almost, dare I say, "messianic" in it's effortlessness.

Oh, excuse me, I seem to have something on my chin here.....

Back to you , Keith.

8 80,000  "residual forces"?????    LOLOLOL   This president -elect  doesnt really have a clue  does he?  PALIN/2012!

9

Another branch of their mythos is failing too:

Sun's Magnetic Field May Impact Weather And Climate: Sun Cycle Can Predict Rainfall Fluctuations

...this one is postulating predictive value on global weather patterns ...that make sense. For a change.

The Left can't even buy a reality check these days without it slapping them up 'longside the head. It must be hard to be a believer of late, eh? Heh

Next, I'm hoping Marcus' head spontaneously combusts, a la Spinal Tap: now that would truly be entertaining.

Life is ...quite surprisingly, and totally unexpectedly ...good.

10

How does the media begin to walk back its insistent demands we deliberately lose the war just to humiliate George Bush and the Republican Party?

How does Keith Olbermann (and his ilk) begin to spin this?

Do they dare admit they were wrong all along?

Those are rhetorical/joke questions right? Or can you really not have learned by now that being a power hungry liberal means never having to say you are sorry or admit being wrong.

They'll just play through as if nothing happened for now. Then they'll start giving Obama credit for cleaning up the mess and give him credit for the future success of Iraq. Hell, Tom Freedman and others are already starting.

11 A better question might be: Under an Obama presidency will our West Point grads stop opting out of the army as a career at the historically high levels (50% at the first chance) that they are now ? Gates as SOD has already said he will begin taking troops out at an increased pace, and besides didn't we last week declare that the war was over and that we had won ?

Also, if one more person yells at me, I'm leaving.

12

That was funny. Right when I hit post on the old thread, it showed up blank (recovered, I see). So I responded to the new same thread, hit post ...and it came up blank, again. Maybe I should buy a lottery ticket: my timings good. Hmm. Or ....

Are you trying to tell me something, Ace?

13 Honest question:  Aren't the residual troops their to, you know, support the combat troops?  If their are no combat troops, what the hell do you need troops to "support?"  Nuance, I guess.

14 Posted by: John Ryan at December 04, 2008 03:29 PM (LHCAa)

It's always sad when trolls show suck a lack of creativity:

From Confederate Yankee, last year:
Might be a little difficult to find the Army captains on active duty, the Army is having a really hard time retaining that group. The number of West Point grads optining out of the Army at the earliest opportunity is the highest in decades. As for the "trend" in Iraq the year 2007 will be the highestdeath toll ever.Posted by: John Ryan at October 16, 2007 10:57 AM

15 I can't wait for the chants of "Obama lied, people died"

16 I can't wait for the press conference with Obama announcing we've won the war, but he still plans to keep 50,000 advisers in Iraq. And there, standing right behind him, Cindy Sheahen and Keith Olbermann just smiling and holding up a "Mission Accomplished" banner.

17 From Blackfive, earlier this year:

I am more concerned with the extremely low retention rates of West Point grads, than I am in a lack of volunteers from elite Ivy League schools, although of course BOTH show the same lack of support. But of course it is always easier and safer to take pot shots at a liberal institution than at anything to do with our military. The last figures compiled show 46 % of the West Point class opting out at their first chance or within 6 months of the earliest opportunity.
Posted by: john Ryan | March 17, 2008 at 08:50 AM

I guess this sort of thing gives Ryan a stiffy or something.

18 I can't wait for the chants of "Obama lied, people died"

Posted by: dan-O at December 04, 2008 03:36 PM (teb/C)

 

You'll be waiting a long, long time for that.

19 Blackfive again, earlier this year:

NBC is also reporting that they spoke with the Captain a West Point grad and that the main points as reported were correct.
Since more than 50% of West Point grads opt out of the Army at the earliest time possible (5 years) it would be interesting to hear if he is still in the Army. West Point retention rates are at an historic low.
Michael in MI
The American people do not want our involvement in Iraq to continue.
Posted by: john Ryan | February 22, 2008 at 09:22 PM

Emphasis added by me, to point out just how disappointed Ryan must be in his hero right now.

20 Blogs for Victory:

16.  John Ryan  |  February 25th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
You go to war with the citizens that you have, not with the citizens that you want.
There has been little national support for this war from either those that vote Democratic or from those who vote Republican.
Recruiting goals have only been able to be met by ever increasing numbers of waivers (30%+) 10% foreign born non citizens, and financial incentives.
Over 50% of the West Point grads opt out of the Army at their first chance (5th year)

21 So what, Obama never promised to bring home the troops, anyway.

Oh, by the way, did you hear that Sarah Palin spent $40,000 just on accessories?

22 All they have to do is Move On. The war in Iraq is in the past, and anyway look at all the Dems who supported it (from 1998-2002). The Iraq War was as bipartisan as the Cold War. Besides, now we need to focus on Afghanistan, the (other) war everyone agrees is the good one.

So how hard will it be to lose that one and blame it on Bush?

23

Slublog at December 04, 2008 03:35 PM (R8+nJ)

Well he did have to update the point he was trying to make with the 2007 death toll to now having to half way concede that the war has been won.  Baby steps. Very, very stupid baby steps.  

24 When will Obama's daughters be old enough to enlist? What about Michelle's brother, he's supposed to be in good shape. Does having Biden's kid in JAG provide enough Moral Authority to wage war?

25

Just out of curiousity, why can't lefties ever provide links for their assertions?

will our West Point grads stop opting out of the army as a career at the historically high levels (50% at the first chance) that they are now \\

I'm not necessarily disputing that, but I would like to see some proof.

Especially considering that each and every graduate of West Point started after the war in Iraq started. It's not as if they didn't know it was going on, it's been in all the papers (until recently).

26
Ace,
Politics is a blood sport, and the left didn't care if they shed American blood to win political points.

They are ideologues and believe more in their ideology than they do in the concept of America.

27 Slublog how did you find those various John Ryan posts so fast? Is there a google search specifically for retard comments?

28

How does the media begin to walk back its insistent demands we deliberately lose the war just to humiliate George Bush and the Republican Party?

The media fought against winning in Viet Nam for years - they were proud of how they helped lose the war. The media hasn't changed since then. Why is anyone surprised?

29 Slu:  Great find.  That is some funny shit.

John Ryan:  Take a moment and reflect on what a small, stupid man you are.

30

I guess this sort of thing gives Ryan a stiffy or something.

Well, if bending over and taking it up the backside for Hugo Chavez doesn't tickle his prostate, what will?

31 Posted by: Veeshir at December 04, 2008 03:47 PM (zXUuJ)

I think the original story was in the Boston Globe.

West Point's reaction to these stories?

The United States Military Academy, better known as West Point, disputes that figure, calling it: "Hogwash. Gibberish. Misinformation."

Spokesman Col. Bryan Hilferty continued, "Actually, only 40 percent of the class of 2002 has left active duty. And the implication that this is an alarmingly high number is also false. The attrition of the class of 2002 is just at the 10 year average and lower than the classes of 2001 and 2000."

32 Slublog how did you find those various John Ryan posts so fast? Is there a google search specifically for retard comments?

Strong Google-fu.

Plus, when a troll leaves that many stinky droppings, it's bound to be picked up by a few search robots.

33 It's not a lie if I can redefine words and have the press cover for me. Combat forces. Residual forces. Just words. Hey, at least I'm not redefining the word "is" though, admittedly, I did pick up on the parsing technique from the Clintons which has become quite useful.

I'm living a, uh, lie and there's not a thing anyone will do about it. I'm, uh, untouchable.

So, who's ready for their daily vagal stimulation? Matthews, Mitchell, and Olbermann... I'm looking at you.

34 All this time I thought it was spelled "vaginal", but seeing you call it "vagal" just seems so...right.

35 Biden was more right than even he knew.
What does Obama do if India and Pakistan go to war?
There would be no way for Afghanistan to be neutral on the issue.
Karzai would have to back Pakistan even if only by word.
There's no way the US could back anyone except India and Russia is already trying to sell military equipment to India (probably Pakistan too).
His best bet would try to be neutral but I don't think that would make him look like much of a leader or presidential.

36

How does the media begin to walk back its insistent demands we deliberately lose the war just to humiliate George Bush and the Republican Party?

How does Keith Olbermann (and his ilk) begin to spin this?

Two words: memory hole.

37

A startling statistic: nearly 50% of all of Ace's trolls abandon the thread after they've dropped the same turdtastic stat they've been dropping for the past 2 years.

Reminds me of that Iraqi river dam that was going to break ANYDAYNOW at the height of the insurgency... Aaaaand, so much for that.

38

I don't get it, Obama has gone back on just about every promise he made as a candidate. Now I know all politicians do it, but this has to be some kind of record for the President-elect (if that's what you call him, since the Electoral College hasn't met yet, but who's counting, really, I mean actually he's been the President-elect since at least 2006).

And, even though promise after promise has disappeared in a puff of unicorn farts and nuance, the whackos in the media and on the left who supported his ascendence to emperor are just nodding their heads in agreement with his sageness and wisdom.

39 ParanoidIn Seattle,

It's almost as if, now follow me here, the Dim pols don't believe the silly shit they sell to their pig-ignorant followers. They just want a shot at the money to make themselves rich.

Impossible, I know. But still.....

40

It's going to be fun watching the Democrats lickspittles in the media contort themselves into pretzels as Obama's actions and policies put the lie to their coverage the last eight years.  The only thing that can save Olbermann, Williams, Couric, Mathews, Gibson, Friedman, Sullivan, Sockpuppet and the rest from looking like total liars is the banning of google and Lexis/Nexis.

It should be fun drudging up the Left's hysterical freakouts about oh, so many issues these last eight years and comparing them to their current much more nuanced views.  Patriot Act?  Not so bad.  Guantanamo?  We could live with it.  Separate court system for international terrorist?  100% constitutional.  50 or 60 thousand troops in Iraq?  Not about oil at all.  International terrorism?  Real threat.  Budget defecits?  Necessary evil.  Rampant corruption?  Doesn't reflect on the party as a whole just the individual actors.  The list goes on and on. 

 

41

One of my good friends is a West Point graduate. I reckon he could make John Ryan cry in under 5 seconds.

 

42 FUCK YOU, ParanoidInSeattle!  You can't talk about my widdle snooky-woogums The President-Elect that way!  You don't know him like I do.  He's magical and if he says the Sun is purple and shall rise in the West, then it is SO AND NO ONE SHALL QUESTION HIM!!!!!

Fuck you Fuck you Fuck you !!!!!  Grrrrrrrrrrrrr...... Ooooooooooo........ I just want to slap you sooooo hard!  I hate you I hate you I hate you!!!!!

Back to you, Keith.

43 One of my good friends is a West Point graduate. I reckon he could make John Ryan cry in under 5 seconds.

Probably do it simply by turning down his sexual advances.

44 Warden,
I can make your friend from West Point cry in 4 seconds, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.

45 No blood for unicorns.

I want that on a t-shirt.

46

Big E at December 04, 2008 04:12 PM (uw1/g

Unfortunately  it won't effect them a bit. If you remember, we took quotes from the Clinton administration in regard to Iraq and WMD and shoved them in their faces and they just chuckled and went about their business.

47

Uniball,

Your porn abstinence has made you overconfident IYKWISAITYD. 

48
Warden,
Possibly, but it would only take four seconds, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.

49 They won't walk back -- they don't need to. No one will ever make them account for their disgusting hypocrisy and disgraceful treatment of our president.

50 This thread just took a slight turn for teh gay. But Slublog's epic smackdown of Lil' Johnny Ryan was brutal.

51

I'm not sure I know what we're talking about anymore.

52 Claus Von Bulow and O.J. added "nuances" to their testimony.  And this is why everything he has said so far has been "we are considering" or "it may be possible" and people think he is moving to the center. It's just ass covering to be as vague as possible on both sides of the issue so he can backpedal and the cult and MSM blow booths exalt it, despite what their lying ears told them during the campaign.

53

Ok, let me get this right. Troops levels have been about 130,000 in Iraq. Obama promised a 16 month pull out with a residual force to combat terrorists. But to Obama a residual force could be upwards of 70,000 troops. That doesn't really meet any definition of residual.

The Left believes that the are terrorists there due to our military presence, but Obama promised to maintain a military presence.

Somebody needs to ask him if he plans to keep that residual force there indefinitely or does he have a date certain pullout. Would he keep the troops there 100 years to combat terrorists?

54 Whoever said that Obama wouldn't be able to vote present in the Oval Office was wrong.  Every issue will be like this, vaguely on both sides of every issue and wherever the tendency takes us, that's where we'll be.

55 You got to be fucking kidding me.

A much larger copy of this illustration with the word Tone on it is on the cover of USAToday. The posted jpeg does not do justice to the obnoxiousness of it. However, I can't find an exact copy on the internet. Anyone else see it?

56 Yeah, that army captains thing is bullshit.  The other one I like is the idea our army is somehow weaker now that almost all our ground forces have real combat experience, and our officers have had to prove themselves fit to command under fire.

57 Considering the quality of Academy grads like Powell, Eaton, Zinn, Clark, etc., maybe we ought to beef up OCS and turn the Point into a national park...

58 Now we need to win it for Obama.  When we were fighting for Bush, the illuminati left-wing Media wanted us to pull out, we were "losing innocent lives" fighting for nothing, but now it's a noble cause and those lives are sacrifices.

59

The extreme left does not have a religion to back up their beliefs...they NEED BO to be their God, because they don't have one. With Global Warming collapsing around them, what choice do they have?

It must be a church filled with Rev. Wright,  unicorns, trolls, and rainbows at the same time..kind of like Disney.

60 Has anyone bought their collector's plates and commemorative coins???  I only wish they had printed them for Global Warming too...they will be like Y2K space trash in the year 3005.

61 Mayor Johnson:

General Powell was ROTC; General Zinni is a Marine.  Sorry to nit-pick but I used to be an academic and the habit is hard to shake.

I know some good West Pointers, and I write as a proud OCS grad.  Let's not create that park just yet.

62

Considering the quality of Academy grads like Powell, Eaton, Zinn, Clark, etc., maybe we ought to beef up OCS and turn the Point into a national park...

Oh, I guess Powell and Zinni didn't drink the Rumsfeld fuck-up Kool-Aid, huh?  You forgot listing Admiral Fallon, Admiral Mullen, GEN Conway, and GEN Petraeus for that, too. 

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