1 Palin displayed the courage, drive and sense of purpose that the sick old GOP needs so badly. Hang in there Sarah, I think you can recruit a considerable Army in what's left of this country.

2

When I first read that, I thought you were calling out "commenters" for our 500+ thread last night.  I was wondering who had stolen Gabe this morning.

Good thing I caught that before sending the previous version of this comment. I might have looked silly.

3 Sarah should tell the national GOP to go to hell and enjoy her life in Alaska. Hell Alaska should secede too.

4 So, it seems that John McCain chose for his campaign advisers a group of people who cared only for their own aggrandizement, and who are eager to stick knives in the back of a conservative Republican (Palin) to advance their careers and curry favor with the media, regardless of how destructive their actions are to the party as a whole.

Water truly does seek its own level.

5 Damn straight.  I'm not ready to give her the 2012 nomination yet, let's see her get another term as governor and bone up on her national and international issues, but she definitely should be on the short list.

6

The thing is, she's a non-entity in Washington. No one owes her anything, so in the Washington game, it's OK to stab her in the back.

http://tinyurl.com/67po9s

The DC establishment has underestimated Sarah Palin.

7 A blatant attempt by the professional political class to deter ordinary Americans from daring to get involved in "their" power games.

8 What burns me is how truly stupid people feel intellectually superior to Palin because of the media's vicious treatment..."haw haw haw, she's like, so dumb, and shit..."

Go back to bagging groceries, morons. Oh right. Now you can quit because President Jesus is going to multiply the loaves and fishes and endlessly replenish your gas tank.

9 Isn't some of this Foxnews waking up the day after the election and realizing that they are completely locked out of the executive branch in January?  I have to believe that this unsourced, nasty, cutting "news" is being offered up as an olive branch.  O'Reilly rants against this sort of nastiness and then turns around and indulges in it without any counter opinion or commentary?  Foxnews clearly got the message from Obama directly.  After all, how many times did he mention his animosity towards Foxnews in public?  It's all a business, folks.  And who better to sacrifice at the altar of Obama than the person most mentioned as a possible 2012 opponent to the One - someone who was the most effective critic of him during this election cycle.

10

The sense of entitlement based upon seniority, dues paid, and whose time it is based upon these must stop.  It is a cancer to the party.  We need people who are electable regardless of the number of times they have tried for POTUS. 

I greatly admire Sarah Palin, and wish her nothing but the best that life has to offer.  I thank her for inspiring me.

11

Water truly does seek its own level.

Nice summation, socky.

12 Anyone who blames this loss on Palin can fuck right off.  McCain was getting utterly slaughtered before she was added to the ticket.  She was the single, lonely bright point busting her ass to energize a bunch of whipped dogs, wishy-washy wafflers, and cowering little eeyores.

And for what?  To end up a shit target for a bunch of upper-crust frauds.  Fuck them.

13 F*CK THE REPUBLICANS

BRING BACK CONSERVATIVES

and leave Sarah ALONE damnit!

If it wasn't for her, McCain would have been steamrolled.

She is living proof people want CONSERVATIVES and not these faggots that currently hold Republican positions.

14

If not for Palin McCain would have lost another 35 million votes.

I was going to stay home when McCain was nominated. When the truth of Obama became public I wa flipping a coin to decided whether or not to vote. Once she was announced I decided to vote for her.

I despise the commie-terrorist sympathizer racist that is now our president elect but McCain would have been a disaster as a president and the treatment by his people of his VP pick (and his abject failures to defend her) prove what a miserable POTUS he would have been. At least now the disaster is wholly owned and managed by the donks.

We can take this time to clean house as we giggle at the burning of their temple from afar. The first cardinal sin of the New GOP should be the word "bipartisan". No one should be reaching across the aisle except to punch John Murtha in the ear.

15 If Obama can win with hapless moron Biden, then McCain and his managers could have won with Palin, had they opted to actually put up a fight.

16 Good post.  Couldn't agree more.  I think it's best to just save the recriminations entirely, but for sure do not dare try to blame Sarah Palin for this loss.  Just don't even go there.

17 I'm seriously angry. If McCain had any class he'd use the earliest opportunity to burn the hacks inside his campaign and defend Palin.

Go to hell, Nicole Wallace!

18 I guess misogynism is alive and well.

Face it, a Steve Palin with the exact same qualications, history, and family would not be treated so shittily.

19 A blatant attempt by the professional political class to deter ordinary Americans from daring to get involved in "their" power games.

Exactly.  And if we as a people don't rise up and utterly reject that bullshit, we deserve to keep losing.

20 mccain is a total loser --- he did nothing to encourage this conservative to vote for him, nothing, in fact my vote for mccain was only because of Sarah Palin. I had no interest in voting for mccain, or huckabee, or romney.

mccain was more interested in losing with grace, then in actually winning. It showed...

21 I never followed anybody else's parade.  I think Palin is awesome and quite up to the task at hand.  I supported her before and I support her now.  She's a good sport.  Too bad I can't say that about all the jealous and petty morons who are trashing her now.  Go, Sarah!

22 We need a fundamental re-structuring of the party. Sarah and Jindal would be good cornerstones.

23 McCain had actually pulled ahead of The One after naming Palin.  He started the death-spiral when Lehman Brothers failed, and continued to flounder until the end.

It's telling when your best economic argument is made by an unlicensed plumber who happens to be videotaped asking a question.  I'm not surprised that John McCain's eyes lit up when he said "Joe the Plumber" in the third debate -- Joe did for free and in 20 seconds what McCain's paid advisors were never able to do with months of work and untold thousands in focus groups.

Interesting that the people from the McCain campaign who are lobbing brickbats at Sarah Palin were never as on-message when they were allegedly trying to win the Presidency.  That's pretty telling right there. 

The lot of them appear to be better at office politics than real politics, which helps explain the outcome.

24 I'll just add my small voice to this:

If it hadn't been for Sarah Palin I would have sat this election out.

You can count my, and my girlfriends vote, for McCain/Palin ONLY because she was on the ticket. 

That's two votes.  Not much, in the grand total, but I believe there are many, many more like us out there.

25 I'll bet Democrats have more appreciation for Sarah Palin than so-called Republicans. Sarah Palin is a uniquely charismatic figure - something the GOP sorely lacks. Her story is far from over.

26

Sarah was the light of the ticket - McCain was the drag. I honor McCains' history and service to this country, but in the end he seemed unwilling to "stand up and fight" Obama.

I support Sarah Palin.

27 Sarah is a fighter, and they can't stand that in la-la-land.

Now she's home to defend us from Al Gore and/or his clone who will be Interior Secretary. 

28

Biden makes Palin look like a genius ... unfortunately the media can simply highlight whatever they want, they cut Biden slack and they hammer Palin. In reality, this is the type of woman and citizen politician most of America should have loved. A strong career woman, wife, mom, self-made, hunter, athletic, sharp ... only one problem ... she is conservative. If she had been a lib or pro-choice/non-religious GOP - they would have fawned all over her.

There is only one form of racism/discrmination in the media of this country and it is the outright hatred of anything or anyone not ultra-liberal.

29 I support her too and I am pissed off at Fox News for jumping on the dump-on-Palin bandwagon.  They are going to lose viewers over this.  They lost 4 in my house alone (except Greta). 

30 I just sent an email to the governors office in Alaska thanking Palin for her dedication and her historic run and letting her know I look forward to voting for her again in 2012.

It means squat, I know, but I figure it couldn't hurt.

31

First let me say that I believe Palin to be my ideal person to vote for.  She believes in the things I believe in both politically and in life in general.  She is John Wayne in a skirt with an extra helping of intelligence.  That said, she has unfortuantely been Borked and unless she does something fantastic to unbork herself (which has never been accomplished by anyone) she will never have the mass appeal beyond people like me to further her political career. 

32

Gabe,

I think Stoaty Weasel deserves a hat tip for her graphic.

http://sweasel.com/

33 Being from outside the beltway also means that she doesn't necessarily have any loyalists to stick up with her when people start talking behind her back.  The funny thing is, most of the conservative base that I've seen/read/talked to, don't even buy this junk for a minute.  The only people who are salivating over it are the same centrists that the new GOP conservatives want to oust anyway.

34 Thank merciful God that McCain lost.  His administration, while better than an Obama one, would have ultimately been a disaster as well, and would have forever tainted Sarah with his old-man stink.  I still voted enthusiastically for them, but realistically, how in the hell could she have won in 2012 or 2016 with the erratic McCain Administration chained to her neck like a millstone?

I remember the Carter years firsthand, but clearly for a large bloc of voters reading a history book is not sufficient warning.  Obama will teach them firsthand a valuable lesson.

Then Sarah will have her chance.  And it will be an honest chance-- she'll be in a much better position with the media in a long primary campaign where she is in control of the message.

35 Complete idiocy. If McCain HADNT picked her, he wouldnt have gotten NEARLY the amount of votes he got. Ive lost alot of faith in things after this whole election pile of shit. The fucking country has lost its fucking mind. Think Idiocracy. But one thing that kept me up is that there is still someone like Palin left out there. If the Repubs dont bring her front and center and make her THE conservative spokes person, then fuck em.

36 If not for Palin McCain would have lost another 35 million votes.

I was going to stay home when McCain was nominated. When the truth of Obama became public I wa flipping a coin to decided whether or not to vote. Once she was announced I decided to vote for her.

Ditto. Complete agreement.

37 I like Jindal and Palin, if they ran together she'd have to be at the top of the ticket, don't see her wanting to run for VP again. Jindal is sharp, maybe him and somebody else, wish it could be Palin, but she might just say "bite me " to the GOP establishment and move on.

38 I heard one complaint was that she yelled at some aides and made them come close to tears. Give me a fucking break! One, no aide gets to that level being a milque toast cry baby. Two, I can't believe Palin was yelling at people after seeing her time after time demonstrate true grace under pressure.

39

Slightly off topic: a friend of mine wants to know where he's supposed to send his gasoline bills/receipts to.  We're thinking Obama HQ until he gets in the White House, but we're not sure.

Wonder what would happen if Zero suddenly started getting deluged by people's bills...

40 Wow - David Frum defends Sarah Palin and accuses Nicolle Wallace of being the Palin trasher.

41 I would not have donated to John McCain if he had not picked Sarah Palin.

42 I wouldn't trust Frum as far as I could spit.

43 Sarah is the only reason I have hope for the GOP.

44 Palin is one of the rare politicians who actually realizes that she works for us. I agree that the beltway creeps need to destroy her, otherwise, hell,any one of us might decide to stand up and lead, and those pustules can't have that happening, can they?
Plus, the comment about Fox trying to get back in the good graces of that other pustule? Pretty much true.

45 I am sick of hearing the slobbering over the Obama family, how young, good looking, the all American Family, bleh. Except for the kids, I see them as low life, thieves, pending Rico indictments.

46

Her fate is in her hands.

She needs to show over the next two years that she is not stupid. Forget about what you think, that is the perception of many (beyond the typical beltway critics and gag writers.)

I would have had her on 60 Minutes before Election Day. Ah, well....

She needs to do interviews, give speeches and be herself. If "herself" means the charming, approachable, confident speaker we saw - along with an assuring grasp of the issues - she will be in a great position approaching 2012.

If not, it was never menat to be.

47

After reading Ace’s posts last night I fired off an e-mail to “Mr. Bold Fresh” letting him know that he got played by some disgruntled political hacks, I hope that other morons did the same.

 

The whole thing smells – the woman did not get to where she is by being a spoiled princess, nor would she have the approval numbers she enjoys. If it wasn’t for her being on the ticket I would have sat this election out, because Mc Lame was nothing but a political tool.

 

Nice move GOP insiders, fuck up the campaign for conservatives and then blame the one ray of sunshine that could have made a difference in the whole sordid mess. Whoever you are you are despicable and have no honor.

 

One thing I saw in Sarah is that she hates to lose – GOP insiders you had better watch out because hell hath no fury like a woman… you know the rest.

 

Ace, Gabe et al keep up the pressure and the good work!!

 

SARACUDA 2012!!

48

I think Gov. Sarah did a great job and far better than most of McCains staff.  She was plucked with or no warning onto the national stage and yes she made a few mistakes here and there but compared to her experienced rival (Joe Biden) she did very well.

I think Gov. Sarah represented Conservative politics NOT Republican politics, and that angered the Republican elite. 

Go Sarah GO

 

49

You guys are saying that you give even an ounce of legitimacy to either the media or the low level politcal hacks in McCain's campaign?

 

Didn't think so.

50 One thing I don't understand is if these so called aides are republicans, why are they setting out to destroy the gop? If they think that they are just damaging Palin or McCain, they are out of luck. As people have posted, they only supported the campaign, donated money, cold called, etc., because of Palin. No body will touch the gop if they destroy her. I can only explain it by thinking that they have gone over to the obama side.

51 I support her too, but I haven't seen any of those MSM reports, because I am boycotting all major news networks right now.  I will continue to do so, and I urge everyone else to do the same also.  We can't change what they have already done, but we can hurt them where it counts the most, Viewership.  If ratings are down, the revenue coming in from advertisers go down, and thats where they get hurt.  I have also boycotted any TV shows where the stars have bashed Sarah Palin too.  I am not the only one, but if more people can do this we can have an effect on how these bozo's in Hollyweird and our supposed news anchors get paid.  If advertising goes down, their salaries go down.  If you truly are mad then pass it along, and hit them where it hurts them the most, THE WALLET.  I have also sent Sarah Palin an email to her governor@alaska.gov to show my support. If you support her, then send some encouraging words and let her know.  I love this site, and will continue to go here, Michelle Malkin's site, and a couple of other like-minded places also, but FOX is also included with all the other kool-aid drinking, weak-minded fools.

52 After reading Ace’s posts last night I fired off an e-mail to “Mr. Bold Fresh” letting him know that he got played by some disgruntled political hacks, I hope that other morons did the same.

One of the problems is that when these jackasses then defend her after the fact, they are patronizing and make her appear weak. She is not weak. Who could put up with all the shit she has had to deal with.

53 cross out "and that old guy" on the picture and it'll be perfect.

54 Count me in the Palin camp. I couldn't have been more disinterested in this campaign and even flirted with voting for Obama for the mere purpose of breaking the racial barrier to the presidency.

That changed the minute Sarah Palin entered the race. I have loathed John McCain for nearly a decade, and it took her about two speeches to break through that animosity and generate enthusiasm for her candidacy.

She has a political gift the GOP would be foolish to ignore.

55 Good point by Ingrahm. When they say she didn't know Africa was a continent, just reply and refer to Obama as Mr. 57 States.

56 I too support Governor Palin. She done good for us. The loss would have been even worse were it not for her.

57 Unfortunately Sarah Palin was not ready to face the sharks on the national stage. She knows her positions of personal liberty and support of the Constitution are the right ones, but since the media doesn't care about supporting the Constitution, they had to find any way to destroy her so that message couldn't be heard.

She did herself a disservice by not being prepared for them.

58 Denial is a powerful drug. It's very difficult for the cool kids who come from circles of privilege and were involved in promoting McCain and running his campaign to admit a country club candidate does not resonate with average, everyday Americans. Especially in our current climate, elites and persons of privilege are increasingly despised outside of the top metropolitan areas.

Look at Liz Dole and how she was thrown out. Working Americans don't identify with Lovey and Thurston Howell-like Republicans. Energetic younger leaders who have experience running their own families, normal careers and relate to the difficulties of saving up for college, retirement and handling the day-to-day hardships we face are the kind of candidates that resonate. Americans are convinced their leadership does not understand the challenges they have. It was as if McCain was campaigning to reduce the taxes on 100' yaughts and ski lodges in Vail while they were looking at skyrocketing college costs, job uncertainty and a dollar that spends like $0.80.

The Republican party committed a serious foul in recent years, borrowing the populist reform message in the mid 1990s and then exposing itself to have cheated Americans when it was clear there was no such reform intent. That brief win has caused millions to banish Republican candidates from future consideration. Some, including myself, believe the party may be permanently damaged. We saw this same ploy used in bringing on Palin, which caused us to grant initial support to the campaign but as the old guard campaign staffers caged up the "wild American hick" and started leaking out how disgustingly hick and uncivilized she was (as if it was right out of My Fair Lady), popular support plummeted again. We smelled out another elite party ploy to social engineer the regular folk, tricking them into electing another pro-immigration, pro-big business pro-spend Republican in the LBJ mold.

I doubt these elites will leave the party and the treatment of Palin confims they are unable to reform. After having their rear-ends handed to them by a Marxist with absolutely zero leadership qualifications (and with VP Biden to boot), they blame Palin and America's hicks. I'll give them until the swearing-in ceremony to throw out the failures responsible for this continued wrong path and if material reform isn't visible, I'm gone. I'd expect many others are in my shoes as well.

59
One thing I don't understand is if these so called aides are republicans, why are they setting out to destroy the gop?

I'm not sure that they are Republicans -  many of them are just hired guns. Steve Schmidt, for example, is not very conservative, and is not motivated by conservative ideology.

60 Sarah for 2012. Unfortunately, we need to shed a bunch of rinos before then. Let's get going. Maybe we need to reevaluate Fox while we're doing this. Let's not blame Sarah for the problems of poor leadership in the republican party. Let's blame the sissified career butt kissers who caused this problem and recognize that they are the problem. Sarah is part of the solution! Don't throw out the baby with the bath water.

61 How do I get a copy of that picture without the McCain picture and reference?

62

The only reason to reach across the aisle is to punch Jack Murtha in the ear.

I think "Reach across the aisle: punch a Dem in the ear" is a good bumper sticker/t-shirt marketing opportunity.

63

The media sucks.  They lie.  Why should I care what any of them think?  For the first time I wanted to slap Meghan Kelly's grinning face this morning.  And whatsis name sitting by her. 

64 Thank you Sarah. js

65

I think "Reach across the aisle: punch a Dem in the ear" is a good bumper sticker/t-shirt marketing opportunity.

Somebody here needs to print shirts & bumper stickers to sell.  I'd buy some t's.

66 I want a Sarah window cling and/or magnet for my car.  Something new, without "McCain/Palin" anywhere on it.

We have to support this woman.  Also, publicly displaying something like this will annoy all the right people.

67 We fucking *owe* this woman.

She put herself and her family on the line, opened them to vile personal attacks and libel, and did all she could to pull out a victory in the worst year for Republicans since 1964.

And you know what? She got us goddam close. Hell, we might have won had the subprime meltdown held off for eight more weeks, or if McCain didn't take ownership of the whole debacle with his bailout cheerleading.

As it stands, she probably saved a Senate seat or two. And she kept the Messiah's win to 1992 levels.

We're in striking distance for 2010. All. Thanks. To. Sarah.

We fucking owe this wonderful woman. And we had better fucking thank her. All of us.

Write her a goddam thank-you note. Not an email. Print out a letter on paper, sign it, stuff it in an envelope, and put a motherfucking stamp on it and SEND IT TO ALASKA. That goes for every one of you cocksuckers. Do it TODAY.

This isn't ODS. I'm sanguine about the next couple of years. Obama is going to be terrible, but life goes on. The world is a pretty good place even with that jug-eared douchebag in the White House. We'll be back. And I want Palin to bring us back.

If you prefer Jindal, Romney, or someone else, that's cool. But you still owe Sarah, and you had better thank her.

68

re: 52 – Marcus, when this kind of trash reporting shows up on the MSM I just write it off as their typical everyday crap they try and pass off as news. When O’Reilly does it he needs to be called out. If he realizes he got played he’ll get pissed and go out looking for payback and we maybe lucky enough to see Sarah’s assassins get called out publicly.

 

All I’m saying is that if O’Reilly is on it we may get the accounting we are looking for,

69 More people like Thad McCotter please, and of course Sarah Palin. All things considered, and what she was up against, I thought she did damn well, which only bodes well for the future. Hell, if she were debating Triple-Zero (Occupant: Oval Office) she would've mopped the floor with him.

Here's the dream ticket: Clarence Thomas/Ann Coulter '12.

Just imagining......

70 Itotally agree.  These are the same assholes that are saying she was buying everything for her family on the shopping spree.  Wel, thatwould be inpossible, she was in a deposition at the time the clotheswere bought.   That was McCain'swife's doing.   And the political hakcs need someone to blame, or they will be out of a job in the next election.  These bastards make me sick and make mewant to just say screw you to all the political hacks out there.

71

publicly displaying something like this will annoy all the right people.

I love to annoy people.

72 I said this on another site, but maybe we should take a lesson from McCain and start our own "Gang of 14 (Million)" to counter this garbage.

73

Sarah should tell the national GOP to go to hell and enjoy her life in Alaska.

Truer words haven't been said in this thread...that's precisely what she should do.

74 Jim62sch - the Frum post has been taken down! I read it and went back and it's gone.

75

Remember these aides have learned from the best and are only looking out for themselves and their careers.  Thus, if throwing Palin under the bus gets them some visibility, they will be the first to give her the shove.  They are not necessarily conservatives and are known for jumping parties to keep their income flowing.

I'm not defending them, just saying.

And I too support Sarah and worked my butt off this election season for her.

76 The thing is, she's a non-entity in Washington. No one owes her anything, so in the Washington game, it's OK to stab her in the back.

And that's why I want names -- all of them. Those who are talking trash and those not speaking up and allowing it to happen.

Any candidate who employs anyone of them will get a letter explaining why I will not vote or donate to their campaign.

77

Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal are great leaders, good people, and would both make excellent presidents.

Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal will be excoriated by the liberal press and the Dems as right wing religious nutters and this will be successful.

Neither of them has a shot of winning for this reason.

78

She did herself a disservice by not being prepared for them.

Bingo.

Let's be honest, she has to improve. Let's not do what the Obama kids do, and see only what we want to see.

79 It's be a shame to have a job that requires you to be back-stabbing scum to insure job security.

80 im62sch - the Frum post has been taken down! I read it and went back and it's gone.
Posted by: sas at November 06, 2008 11:24 AM (HoB7g)

My guess is that they are afraid of a law suit though I think they are protected. They don't seem to have any problems publishing every slime attack on Palin but they will go to any length to protect their own.

81

Well said Pete, I am sending mine today. Here are the addresses:

 

The Honorable Sarah Palin

550 West 7th Avenue, Suite 1700
Anchorage, AK 99501

 

The Honorable Sarah Palin

P.O. Box 110001
Juneau, AK 99811-0001

82 I have to echo the majority of comments here.  I never donated to ANY campaign until Palin was announced as the VP candidate.  I thought the media treatment of her was shameful, especially when contrasted with Joe effing Biden.  Wish all the best for her and her family. 

83 Jim62sch - the Frum post has been taken down! I read it and went back and it's gone.

Damn, I wish I had copied it...Wallace must have called Frum and threatened him - this is getting interesting. I think we need to spread the Wallace meme around until she feels threatened enough to tell the real story.

84

The rage against Sarah Palin is akin to the jealousy observed in high school; a new girl moves into town and is immediately viewed with suspicion and dislike.  Charlie Gibson, Katie Couric, and many others did not hide their contempt and as far as I can tell paid no price for their snobbery.  A great many commentors were "appalled" at the choice of Sarah Palin, tossing out among other chestnuts that she was not experienced enough to hold the office. 

 

Orly??  She is far better equipped and more experienced than BHO.  Her demeanor and speaking performances electrify audiences rather than put them to sleep, or make them roll their eyes in disbelief, unlike old Three Letter Joe Hairplug.  And she could make a 200-yard one-shot kill with a 30-'06.  Against a wide variety of "targets", shall we say.

 

I call BS on the push against Palin.  And I call BS on the transformative event of the election.  The election was only transformative for those who are racists in the fist place. 

 

Dan Patterson

Arrogant Infidel

85

She did herself a disservice by not being prepared for them.

Bingo.

Let's be honest, she has to improve. Let's not do what the Obama kids do, and see only what we want to see.

I'm not saying she was perfect.  But she was good.  And the only reason she looked bad was because she was set up.  Even under those circumstances, she was a far sight better than anyone else who was on the ticket.  I'm not making apologies for her, but I'm not making apologies for supporting her.  There were a lot of reasons the Republicans lost, but Palin was the least of them.

86
Could we get a few more Real Men in the republican party, you know, like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman and get rid of these damn sissy boys.

87 Palin was the reason I bothered to vote this year.  McCain does not, and would not have, represented my values, he was merely the better choice in the Giant Douche/Big Turd election.

We need to out the cowardly Palin-haters as Ace has mentioned, and ensure they do not poison any more elections.

88

Palin? Jindal? In the end, we have to rally around ISSUES first, not people.

Remember what this site did to boost opposition to the immigration amnesty scheme? Remember how much conviction conservatives had for drilling, and the Democrats folded? Issues that we could argue persuasively, that gained wide support among voters.

In the end, there is no magic candidate who can rise above a weak platform. Even Obama would have struggled absent an economic meltdown.

 

89 I'm in the same camp as S. Bunny and aquaviva. I would have left the presidential part of my ballot blank or voted third party had it not been for Sarah Palin. McCain is a political schmuck. I honor his military service, but it ends there. I also fired off an email to O'Reilly. He didn't even question the fact that Cameron was using anonymous sources inside the McCain camp. I'm also about to send an email to Governor Palin, imploring her to keep her chin up and, if she so desires, sharpen her skills on international issues, etc. and gear up to lead us out of the doldroms we will likely be in four years from now. I like the sound of a Palin/Jindal ticker in 2012. One more point: To HELL with Shep Smith and Carl Cameron--may they get gang-raped by a thousand screaming baboons. 

90 The Frum post wasn't removed.  It looks as though permalinks to NRO blogs aren't working right now.

91 John McCain should step and tell the press that this is all nonsense.  If he doesn't, then he is not the man of honor that I thought he was.  For everything he is, that I don't necessarily take a hanker to, he always struck me as a man of honor.

92

"Let's be honest, she has to improve."

  Yeah, I can see that.  But her bio is compelling and, more importantly, she's right where most of us here are ideologically.  There's a lot there to build from.  In some ways, would it have been better if McCain had just taken Lieberman and gone down in flames?  For Sarah as presidential hopeful, probably, but we'd be looking at 39 seats in the Senate.  Regardless, I think the "she's dumb roflcopter!!!11!" meme is what she has to overcome; she might even sit till 2016.  She has time, and a hell of a future if she wants it.

93 86
Could we get a few more Real Men in the republican party, you know, like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman and get rid of these damn sissy boys.     BINGO!  And add Marsha Blackburn from Tennessee to that list.  And the head of the North Carolina GOP.  These women have the cajones that the GOP men politicians don't. 

94 The stupid bitch doesn't even know Africa is a continent.

95 I voted for Palin.  Who is this McCain you speak of????

96 Look at Liz Dole and how she was thrown out. Working Americans don't identify with Lovey and Thurston Howell-like Republicans.

Dole was one of the better Republicans in the Senate. Not a high bar of course, but she's one we will miss as the Rats push through all sorts of garbage laws. Anyone who dd not vote for her because they think she's too country-clubbish needs to go stick their head in the oven.

97 86
Could we get a few more Real Men in the republican party, you know, like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman and get rid of these damn sissy boys. ==============================   I am all for that!!! Get rid of you fella's, you muck up everything anyway.  It's all that testosterone.  Women can at least slice and dice quietly, usually before you even know it your slapped in the oven and done.

98 The stupid bitch doesn't even know Africa is a continent.

And you don't seem to know that sources saying such things are making up a lot of crap.

99 #94 Pauline

Hey "Pauline", you do know that there will be no more Soros-funded paychecks via Axelrod, right? Go pick up your government-issued unicorn and shut up already.

100

goddamn Fox News...they're running the same O'Reilly/Cameron bullshit from last night again this morning...without a freakin' word of skepticism...

FNC must really be worried about the Obama FCC shutting them down...spineless bastards...

Carl Cameron better hope his skinny ass never crosses paths with me in person...

101

The stupid bitch doesn't even know Africa is a continent.

That's stupid.  The tape was chopped up.  The media lying again.  Imagine that.  Palin is so good they had to invent bad stuff about her.  And this crap was the best they could do.

102 Mr Happy is absolutely right. Palin and Jindal are religious freaks and don't have a future in national politics. Maybe they can go on Rush, or be guests of honor at gun shows in Red America.

When will you clowns learn that being a stupid mouth breather ISN'T something that most of America aspires to. I think what we need to do at this point is set up some trailer park reservations where the Palinites can pursue their way of life. All of you "Joe the Plumber/Aspiring Country Musicians" can do manual labor odd jobs for each other, wave the flag, go to church, have a bunch of guns, and elect freaks like Palin and Jindal. No need for schools, since anyone can learn about "intelligent design" from the comfort of their living rooms. When folks from the CDC and HHS want to study STD's, meth addiction, and obesity they'll have a sample population ready to go. And us lib city folk can have a place to take our kids for field trips to teach the important life lesson that being white is no guarantee against being really, really retarded.

103

I was going to sit out this election because I hate RINOs like Captain Queeg. I only voted for The Sarah and she was the only bright spot in this dismal election. If The Sarah needs blood or treasure all she has to do is ask.

I think Carl Cameron's skull, in bronze would make a wonderful paper weight for her desk.

 

104 Stupid bitch Pauline believes whatever Pravda tells her. Now that's stupid.

105

If not for Palin, senators like McConnell and Chambliss and Coleman would've lost.  The election would have gone from a GOP drubbing to a cataclismic destruction.

Palin saved the sorry assed GOP party.  If those shitheads can't see that, fuck'em.

106

I know I am being a broken record, but I think we all need to realize what "Job One" is for the US media... to ensure that there is never, ever, another Ronald Reagan!  By that I mean a charismatic conservative who can get past their filter and connect to regular Americans.  They cannot do their job as protector for the Democrats and leftists (birm) if they cannot control the national conversation.

That is why John McCain needs to sit down and shut up, and let Sarah pick up the battle flag and start telling us what the goal is, and showing us the way to get there.

We need a graphic of Sarah as Liberty carrying the flag and calling us forward.  And do you even have to ask... of course I mean the one with Liberty's boobs showing, you morons!

107

Love Sarah to pieces, but I can do without McCain. He is an average Senator and showed amazing courage about 40 years ago. That's about it. A nice guy, but a pain in the ass.

The election was lost the minute the stock market tanked and the GOP did not hang the blame squarely on Frank, Dodd, and Obama. They should have been out there daily, talking shady connections and loan frauds.

They didn't. Game over. That's McCain: gentleman loser.

 

108 Hey Pauline, your guy won, and yet you still have to hold on to the hate.  Does nothing make you liberal asswipes happy? Just wait till "That One" raises your taxes, and soe not offer "Hope", just change, right from your pocket to his.  Go back to work, I don't think Obama is paying you trolls anymore.  Just look at Indianapolis.

109 Palin sealed the deal for me to support the Republican Party for the 1st time in my life---she must not fade, we have to help her and help her come back 10 folds stronger to defeat the growth of socialism in this country.

110 I think that "Elitist Lib"is a parody.

But it's very hard to tell with those people.

111 The stupid bitch doesn't even know Africa is a continent.

Another stupid gash who is threatened by a strong educated conservative woman.  Go get Joe Biden a beer and blowjob, idiot, chop chop.

112

I'm not saying she was perfect.  But she was good.  And the only reason she looked bad was because she was set up. 

The "only reason"? Come on, katya, we can't talk that way. She has to bear SOME of the responsiblity. The media will always try to set up a conservative.

 

They called Reagan dumb, too, but he spent decades traveling the country speaking about issues -- speeches he wrote by hand on a legal pad. It would not be the end of the world to concede that maybe she wasn’t ready in 2008. She hadn’t spent much time thinking about the ramifications of wheat subsidies on left-handed Kenyan farmers, or whatever, because she was only two years removed from a small town city hall. That’s understandable.

But she has to know that even her supporters expect her, going forward, to demonstrate she’s a thinker. I made excuses for Bush’s intellectual demeanor and I’m tired of making excuses. I think she can do it, but she has to know we expect her to.

 

 

113

Let's be honest, she has to improve.

More prescience.

Look, Sarah Palin is not a national-level candidate.Check your urge to advertise your loyalty bona fides at the door--it's admirable, but if you see her as your Bonny Prince Charlie, you're going to be disappointed again. I liked her at the convention, I thought she held her own during the debate. I also realized that she's not ready for prime time; she may never be. If she's the standard-bearer, the GOP is in trouble. Call me a traitor if you like; I just refuse to canonize her. She's a fine woman, an ideologically sound conservative and a likeable candidate, and appears to have administered Alaska capably. She was savaged by the Left, and came out smiling. She didn't cost McCain this election, nor did she win it for him. But if she's the best the GOP has got on the national-level bench, we've got more than 8 years of pain coming our way.

Ask yourself this question, and be honest: do you think she's capable not only of running a nation of 300+ million Americans and the bureaucracy that makes that administration possible, while handling world issues? Not only capable of doing this, but doing this well, and better than other potential Republican leaders?

If so, nominate her in 2012. And please don't respond to this by asking me who I think could "do a better job." That's my point; we should spend this time finding that person, not misspending resources on a busted hand out of a noble but misguided--and ultimately unsatisfied--affection.  

114 Here is the text of the now-yanked David Frum post:

Wow -that is some savage cutting & gutting that Nicole Wallace has just performed upon Sarah Palin. Nicole & I crossed swords once, during the Harriet Miers nomination battle. Watching what Nicole can do when she is seriously annoyed, I am grateful that I got away from that fight with nothing worse than a few bumps and bruises ….

That said: Some of these stories do not ring quite true to me, especially the story about Palin allegedly not realizing that Africa was a continent rather than a country. Apparently she did not grasp that “South Africa” was not the same thing as “southern Africa.” But there a lot of possible innocent explanations for a mistake like that.

Larger point: Would it not better serve the cause of understanding for Nicole Wallace to give an on-camera interview to Carl Cameron and state these points in her own voice - and allow viewers to asses their credibility? Wallace’s fingerprints are all over these leaks anyway, so it’s not as if she has any anonymity to lose.

115 The campaign is over. Why do this covertly?  Why not say this in public? Show your faces.

116 I thought--think--Sarah Palin was the best thing about the Republican Party in decades.  If anyone saves the GOP, it'll be her and not the professional ship-deserting rats.

117

Pauline, if you are really a Pauline and not a Paul....go to hell.

Your candidate is up next in the smear campaign....once one of left wing loon-bins in the press starts criticizing "The One".  It will be on for Fox News, too.  And they have a lot of ammunition.

Just wait until the honeymoon is over for Obama.  Once they all everyone starts losing their jobs and can't get another one.

They can only raise someone up on the pedestal for so long until they have to try and knock them off.

118

She did herself a disservice by not being prepared for them.

Seriously?  It's one thing to be prepared to deal with the media or your opponent - one could argue that her preparation for that one way or the other.  But should she really have been expected to prepare to be stabbed in the back by her own staff??

I thought the McCain campaign was about honor and all that crap.

119 If you think Sarah is stupid, you probably also think Katie Couric is smart, too, right?  Yeah, I thought so.

120 McCain sucked from the beginning.  We did not pick McCain, the media picked him for us.  McCain is the cocksucker that still wants to sell his country first to the Mexicans.

I was going to vote for Barr till Palin got into the race.  She actually inspired many conservatives enough that there was a chance to win this year, but the idiots in the media got all wrong.

McCain was pulling down Palin.  He's the ONLY reason HE lost.

Fuck these news weasels and their anonymous sources.

Palin in 2012

121

Pauline, you stupid cunt.

You say Sarah is dumb because of that Africa remark, but Obama said we have 57 states and Biden said FDR was president during the 1929 crash. I guess an idiotic twat like yourself is ok with that.

Now get your skanky ass down to the streetcorner and get started on those blowjobs. Your crack habit ain't free, bitch!

122 I'm pissed.  Why?  Because two branches of the federal government are now in the hands of a candidate and a party whose big government political philosophy I detest and fear.  Republicans (conservatives in particular) need to be uniting to oppose the more outrageous proposals of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid; not sticking the knife in the back of one of the party's most dynamic leaders and playing a blame game for the loss on Tuesday.  We are now the minority party and will need a concerted, coherent effort to fight the upcoming battles in the public arena.  It won't be easy and we cannot afford to be taking cheap shots at each other.

Somewhere in a Rezko-financed mansion in Chicago, David Axelrod is laughing his ass off at the disarray being shown by these jerkoffs in the McCain campaign.  Pull together you idiots or this country will not be recognizable in four years.

(The Reiver descends from his soapbox.)

123 I don't support "that old guy".

124 Frum post is here:
http://frum.nationalreview.com/post/?
q=ZTA3MDY2NGE3ODFjYjViNjhlOGFkMWZiNzYwZWRmYjY=

125

Good point Toad!! How far down the crapper would the GOP be if she had not been on the ticket?

 

The inside the beltway mentality has gotten the GOP leadership to place it is today. IMHO they are fucked in the head if they can’t realize what a gift they have in Sarah Palin – the ONLY person who fired up the base during this campaign. Now they want to make her the scapegoat. They are not real smart and they will not be getting a lot of cash from folks like me who recognize who brought a spark to this campaign.

 

126

My favorite part about the O'Reilly "story" was the part about Palin "throwing tantrums" after reading her press clippings in the morning.  How fucking sexist.  When was the last time a politician (except for maybe Mr. Cool himself) didn't lose their temper on a regular basis?

Don't we all sorta think it's cool when the big boys flame up?

If I had been in her shoes, I would have been smashing shit against the wall.

127 I love Sarah!  And I have the utmost respect for Senator McCain.  He has served this country with honor.  The fact is that this was a bad year for a Republican to win the White House, but why in the hell would these pathetic campaign staffers air their dirty laundry.

It's sad that some inside the McCain campaign (not McCain himself) have decided to appease the main stream media in an attempt to place blame for the loss by tossing Governor Palin under the bus.

Sarah Palin with 4 additional years of experience and some additional studying of foreign affairs will be a formidable opponent against Obama.  She has charisma and connects with people like no other conservative I can think of in recent times.  She could be a rock star in the party.  Sadly, these McCain staffers are playing right into the liberal media's likely desire to see Obama elected again in 2012.

I recommend reading Byron York's take that compliments this article extremely well titled Losers.

128 Ask yourself this question, and be honest: do you think she's capable not only of running a nation of 300+ million Americans and the bureaucracy that makes that administration possible, while handling world issues?

I was always under the impression that we conservatives did not think that it was the job of the President to "run" the nation. That's socialist thinking. We think the President should spend at least 50% of his time playing golf, and the other 50% vetoing whatever nonsense Congress dreams up.

As for the "bureaucracy"  --- don't get me started.

129 Cocksuckers all.  Simple as that.

130 I have written grassfire.org numbers usa, and other factions that I contributed to during this election, effective as their adds etc. may have been.  It was useless next to MOVEON.org's 88 million dollars and one million volunteers.  If we had an Arianna Huffington, and a site that had a weekly"to do" like legislative blocking, etc.  We could change the world at about 20 dollars per person.  Instead we are all posting just to relieve our frustration.

131 I'd like to thank Johnny Mac for proving to me just how unworthy he truly is and thereby taking some of the sting out of this defeat.  Johnny, you've exceeded my lowest expectations!

132

I am another one who was going to seriously sit this one out because I did not want to vote McCain at all.  I greatly admire his character and service to our country....but he would've ruined the GOP for generations to come.  As a party, we have become nothing but a bunch of sissy RINO's...and he would have been the grand leader....and with each passing day, would've alienated more and more conservatives.

Sarah was what excited me.  Her bravado, her wholesome persona, her ability to speak to crowds was a great asset and she wasn't friggin Washington DC (dirty, rotten, slimy politician bastards).  Her freshness appealed to tens of thousands, despite the media's trashing.  However, in the end, they succeeded in making her look the fool to people who couldn't see through the bullshit.  I hope she comes back with a vengeance in '12 in some form or fashion for our party.  She is greatly needed. 

McCain lost because he didn't fight.  He wanted to be honorable and run a respectable campaign.  That, unfortunately, was more important to him than calling Obama out.  He wimped out on FM/FM and said nary a peep about what caused it.  He missed great opportunities. 

Today, I'm looking at this as a positive.  McCain would've been an awful representation of the GOP.  From this day forward, let's hope and pray for Palin and others like her to really invigorate the party & stand up for what we believe in....dammit!

133 Redstate has started operation leper.  I fully support that effort, and have put the names of those staffers Redstate has named in the sidebar of my blog as a reminder, I would like to suggest that others find some way to remind themselves about this so that in 2010 and 2012 we aren't looking at these same turds running another campaign.

134 I think the culture in DC is to work for whoever gives you a paycheck, regardless of ideology.  I really think they have their nice little set up there, the parties are really starting to blend in with one another.  They work for themselves not for the people.  SP pointed this out.  Obviously, she had to be their enemy.  I mean, not only did she succeed in her own state but, from their frame of mind: "she could come to DC and succeed here", "we need to trounce her at all costs".

135

people like pauline are sexually deprived, most dems are, I am seeing most lefty women (exempt the wealthy ones)are very self conscious of their appearance, and when Palin---(most attractive conservative to lead) appeared....it threathened every strange looking lefty women out there....already angry---they exploded into the most hateful monsters....in real life--nothing makes them happy....I wonder what the divorce rates are of dem-women compared to republican women....

pauline could also be a man...if so, I rest my case....not only are they angry,hateful and deprived, they are confused....(dems electing a socialist --- what more proof do we need.)

136 Let's all start working for Sarah NOW. We can build a formidable organization around her in the next three years.

137

I'll admit it, and gladly as well:  McCain bears full and complete responsibility for his shitty campaign and also for any Palin bashing that goes on without rebuttal from him.  But c'mon guys, Palin IS a conservative and Mac has spent the last 8 years pissing all over conservatives, so really I'm not at all surprised by this.  FOX news, Greta excepted, can f-off as well.  Palin/Jindal 2012 and GOD please help us until then.

138 tims472 - per the gang of 14 million, I'm with you there. We've realized we need to be more active this next time around. Where can we go to organize and support these values? United and organized, we all will have much more capacity to steer things and demand real reform and alignment to what real Americans want.

139 I was going to vote McCain to begin with because he's NOT A DEMOCRAT and because I mostly respect the man.  Palin made me feel a lot better about it.  I stand by what I said. 

140 OK, Frum's piece fingering Nicolle Wallace is back up. I think this is the best lead we have so far. Time to infect Nicolle Wallace with political leprosy.

Oh, and Steve Schmidt? You're still a fucking douchebag covered in loser-stench.

141 Sarah Palin was great, a breath of fresh air but a just little too green.
McCain was what he always was and that is not inspiring.  He lost because he apparently never paid attention when Bill Clinton ran and won:
"It's the economy, stupid". 
Well, it was the economy, stupid, and you didn't address it in any meaningful way and you lost.

142 Oh and Gabriel, I'm sorry for your pain.  I hope something gets worked out for both sides of this issue.

143 Jeri Thompson, or Ann Coulter could be the face of this site.  It could allow posting, but it main aim is legislative blocking.  Name it We The People, and put our brains where all these mouths are.  I am tired of hearing excuses.  Our country is at stake.  We have jobs and families, and conservatives don't picket.  But this could be done.
How did Numbers USA become such a voice?  Come on Ann or Jeri let's do this today.

144 The only reason I voted for John McCain and didn't just write in a real conservative was because of Sarah Palin.

I never liked John McCain, and I still don't like John McCain.

I like Sarah Palin.

But really, we need to learn a lesson: When we run a squishy moderate, even a war hero like McCain, we get pasted.

See also: Dole, Bob.

Don't blame me, I supported Duncan Hunter. Then Fred Thompson. Then Mitt Romney... and then intentionally did not vote in the Texas primary so I could help get Nader on the ballot if necessary to screw with the Dems.

145 Fuck you guys are delusional. That stupid bitch cost us the independents. So what if she energized the base. You win elections with independents and she totally fucked us. I hope the bitch stays in Alaska and is never heard from again. If she's the best candidate the GOP can produce then the party is fucked for generations.

I was going to rewrite this and start talking about how proud she was to learn to drink out of the toilet, but after reading this, I just have a hard time understanding how drunk you have to be to write this incoherently before noon.

146 I have some rednecks here at my house in Atlanta - they're here to clean my pool for the winter. They tried to rub Chambliss' "victory" in my face after they saw an Obama sticker on my boyfriend's Prius (he's still hungover from celbrating O's victory). I just laughed and asked them if they wanted some tea. I guess they're too stupid to realize that Chambliss didn't win shit, and that the run off is scheduled for Dec 2. This is going to be a cakewalk! When will you people learn that being ignorant will NOT help your movement, and that there's nothing "cool" about being common. I hope my hick pool cleaners enjoy their 40 minute drive back to whatever ex-uburban hell hole they reside in; maybe Rush can tell them that Chambliss didn't win. And they can despair over the news while downing some shitty cheap beer and fried finger food at the local Chili's/Applebee's. Gawd, it's going to be a super sweet couple of decades getting to wipe you folks off the political landscape!

147 Great point, Toad (more Senate losses if not for Palin).

I posted your comment over at HotAir.

148 The Frum post wasn't removed.

I can't find it. But their we-only-hate-you-because-you're-dumb,-peaches rally-'round is right there at the top.

149 "I'd like to thank Johnny Mac for proving to me just how unworthy he truly is and thereby taking some of the sting out of this defeat."

No kidding.

150 Fuck you guys are delusional. That stupid bitch cost us the independents. So what if she energized the base. You win elections with independents and she totally fucked us. I hope the bitch stays in Alaska and is never heard from again. If she's the best candidate the GOP can produce then the party is fucked for generations.

Hey, Pauline - wow, you Obama supporters are really insecure. Only two days after the election and you're already feeling threatened?

Oh, and suck my balls.

151 Late to the party here, but Obama's campaign was so superior in almost every sense that blaming Palin is like blaming the officers who were off-watch on the Titanic.

Obama's campaign was superior in:

1) Website design

2) Use of web technologies

3) Clear message

4) Clear answer as to "what's in it for me when I vote for you?"

5) Clearly articulated values.

We might not agree with his values, programs, or message -- I sure as hell didn't -- but I can't think of a campaign phase where he didn't eventually outwit and outlast.

152

Obama in a bathrobe = sexy casual.

Palin in a bathrobe = whore.

The MSM has spoken. We get it.

153 Pauline, eat my shorts u idiot...

154 Posted by: Pauline at November 06, 2008 11:54 AM (kYRcs)

Heh.

"Us?"

Nice try.

155 Time to go back and re-read Camille Paglia on the Saracuda.

Although nothing will sway my vote for Obama, I continue to enjoy Sarah Palin's performance on the national stage. During her vice-presidential debate last week with Joe Biden (whose conspiratorial smiles with moderator Gwen Ifill were outrageous and condescending toward his opponent), I laughed heartily at Palin's digs and slams and marveled at the way she slowly took over the entire event. I was sorry when it ended! But Biden wasn't -- judging by his Gore-like sighs and his slow sinking like a punctured blimp. Of course Biden won on points, but TV (a visual medium) never cares about that.

The mountain of rubbish poured out about Palin over the past month would rival Everest. What a disgrace for our jabbering army of liberal journalists and commentators, too many of whom behaved like snippy jackasses. The bourgeois conventionalism and rank snobbery of these alleged humanitarians stank up the place. As for Palin's brutally edited interviews with Charlie Gibson and that viper, Katie Couric, don't we all know that the best bits ended up on the cutting-room floor? Something has gone seriously wrong with Democratic ideology, which seems to have become a candied set of holier-than-thou bromides attached like tutti-frutti to a quivering green Jell-O mold of adolescent sentimentality.

And where is all that lurid sexual fantasy coming from? When I watch Sarah Palin, I don't think sex -- I think Amazon warrior! I admire her competitive spirit and her exuberant vitality, which borders on the supernormal. The question that keeps popping up for me is whether Palin, who was born in Idaho, could possibly be part Native American (as we know her husband is), which sometimes seems suggested by her strong facial contours. I have felt that same extraordinary energy and hyper-alertness billowing out from other women with Native American ancestry -- including two overpowering celebrity icons with whom I have worked.

One of the most idiotic allegations batting around out there among urban media insiders is that Palin is "dumb." Are they kidding? What level of stupidity is now par for the course in those musty circles? (The value of Ivy League degrees, like sub-prime mortgages, has certainly been plummeting. As a Yale Ph.D., I have a perfect right to my scorn.) People who can't see how smart Palin is are trapped in their own narrow parochialism -- the tedious, hackneyed forms of their upper-middle-class syntax and vocabulary.

Bing-fucking-oh! 

156

McCain's more unprincipled staffers have fairly mercenary reasons for smearing Sarah Palin: 'Hey, don't look at me! It was her fault! She did it!'. The media, on the other hand, know she's the only serious threat to The One four years from now. Sure, there are Republicans out there : Romney, Huckabee, Guliani, Jindal, to name a few, but none of those men have the stuff to beat Obama. Not one. Not even if four years from now, West Virginians are living lives out of The Grapes of Wrath because of Obama anti-coal policies, old folks are dying in their homes of exposure, and Russian troops are camping out in Warsaw. Why? Because the press is committed to the narrative established during the primaries. By their lights, not only is Obama going to be president, but he's going to be bestest president evah, no matter how harsh the reality or unpleasant the truth.  Pravda wasn't this much in the tank for Breznhev. Some on the Right view Palin as unelectable because of a sustained and unprecedented smear campaign and a few fumbled, high-profile interviews. Follow the logic, please: we repudiate the last, best hope the GOP has to take on The One because his brownshirt media surrogates continually assassinate her character and intellect? What? Huh?

157 If only Republicans in Congress defended their own as vehemently as people here do.

158 #132.  I never posted this before the election but I think JM was played big time by senator smoothie.  I think smoothie convinced him that they didn't need to talk about immigration since they were both "in agreement on this issue".  He convinced him that if they both vote yes on the bailout bill it would be a non issue.  It was a coupe for BO to have M vote yes after he railed not three days before about earmarks and freezes.  That was a watershed moment for McCain.  He looked like a fool to the American people, a total hypocrite and BO went for a jog, said "call me if you need me" and made a total mockery of M.  That moment, the yes on the bailout bill, was a key moment for McCain.  People wanted to believe he wasn't going to be another GWB as BO was claiming and when he voted that way, McCain simply reinforced BO's contentions.  SP saw this and in the last weeks of the campaign she began to speak up but it was too late, McCain had already allowed her to be marginalized.  Want to start a lively conversation at happy hour just say:  "McCain voted for BO and forgot to tell Sarah Palin".   Then just sit back and watch and listen.

159

There needs to be a new Republican party; this one is weak and sick (just look at some of the bastards in it -- they're no better, in fact some are worse, than liberals).

As it stands, Sarah Palin is far too good for today's Republican party.  I think Jindal is too (he'd probably get a drubbing from some of these fucks too).

Time to make a party that befits these people...two years to start the work, four years to be completion.  That isn't a lot of time, but if everyone is motivated (I should think the prospects of an 8 year O reign should be pretty good motivation).

160 That stupid bitch cost us the independents.

Let's count the ways in which this sentence is wrong:

1) "stupid" - So says the media. I'm not buying. You don't do what she did in Alaska by being stupid.

2) "bitch" - "Commandment 11: Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican" - Ronaldus Magnus

3) "cost" - I'd be willing to bet she brought in far more votes than she alienated.

4) "independents" - If you have independents, but not the base, you have nothing. McCain's whole career strategy has been independents. He rode that train all the way to Loserville.

161 That stupid bitch cost us the independents

McBipartisan-Democrat-Lover was supposed to win the independents. Palin did her job, you silly cunt. McCain did not do his. As usual.

162

Fuck you guys are delusional. That stupid bitch cost us the independents. So what if she energized the base. You win elections with independents and she totally fucked us. I hope the bitch stays in Alaska and is never heard from again. If she's the best candidate the GOP can produce then the party is fucked for generations.

Trig Palin has a higher IQ than you.

163

Pauline, your points might be better served if you didn't refer to her as a "stupid bitch". Oh, and don't forget to mention your conservative christian views.

What a freakin' nutbar. Get a life.

164 If it wasn't for Sarah, the loss would have been so bad that Barry would negotiating a Troika with Putin and Akma-dinnerjacket by Feb 1.

165 Sarah Palin, for Prez/Joe The Plumber VP, 2012!

166 Pauline please take this personally:  Scrub out your cunt with lysol or take it back to Kos because you're stinking up this fucking site.  Also check with Axelrod because I think he's going to tell you bring a very large container of lubricant to the inaugural party because you're going to be one of the "party favors" for the homeless people that might get violent if they don't get something even if it is at the bottom of the barrel.

167

When we worked the phones in Missouri's GOTV effort and actually got to speak with live people, I found 2 common themes:

1. Excitement for Sarah

2. Fear of the socialist Obama

Very few folks I spoke with were excited about voting FOR McCain. It was either a vote against the Obamessiah, or a vote for Sarah!

I will gladly volunteer for her 2012 campaign.

168

Write her a goddam thank-you note. Not an email. Print out a letter on paper, sign it, stuff it in an envelope, and put a motherfucking stamp on it and SEND IT TO ALASKA.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 06, 2008 11:22 AM (5jb7F)

 

I agree, but I hope you washed your hands first.

 

169 I have a 100% certain prediction:  No presidential campaign will ever again agree to public funding and its limitations.

A second prediction, somewhat less sure:  Four years from now, both campaigns will spend at least one billion dollars.

170
Ace,

Palin's remarks on "what next" working to redefine the role of the media deserve organizational support. If not already, then the conservative radio and internet personalities really do need to organize formal affiliation. Only when there is competition can any leverage be placed upon the Associated Press or Reuters or television networks to report facts responsibly. Technology is on the side of radio/internet as the future home server already replacing the old media. 

171 Pauline at November 06, 2008 11:54 AM (kYRcs)

Pauline, aka FYA, why change your name? You are easily identifiable. There is no "us" here. You speak for no one. You have already demonstrated by your obsessive spamming of this blog that you are immature and probably not right in the head.

172 Governor Palin is tops!

The saboteurs of Palin are acting out their hatred for us through their attacks on her.

 

173 toby928 u r right on

174 The stupid bitch doesn't even know Africa is a continent.

Pauline aka FYA: Did you ask Mr. 57 States Obama about it? Obama's boner is on tape. The Palin accusations are third hand hearsay from unnamed sources. You're not very smart, are you?

175 Hey all... let's not ride Paul(ine) too hard. There's a serious opportunity emerging from this election: the left believes its current approach has been validated (and doesn't recognize they were elected based on NO MORE OF MCSAME/EIGHT YEARS).

Consider the Left's model for a conservative voter: rural hick, uneducated, bible thumping, trailer-park trash. The election has only re-affirmed this incorrect model in their heads and is providing the level of disequalibrium that even a Soros would be excited to exploit. They don't get it that this is the Liberal analog to country-club elitism. Let them carry this radicalism even further and use it against them in 2 and 4 years.

176 If you have independents, but not the base, you have nothing. McCain's whole career strategy has been independents. He rode that train all the way to Loserville.--Posted by: Farmer Joe

+1

177

#147

Cool!  Thanks, I've never been quoted before

178 Anybody mention the Illinois state lottery pick 3 winning numbers the day after Obama's election? http://www.illinoislottery.com/subsections/History/Win2008.txt

179 Fuck seeing some of the invective on here I can only conclude that you guys are overly sensitive at the moment. What did you lose something important? You know like control of the free world (not to mention control of the Supreme Court for a couple of generations. SUCKED IN LOSERS.

Astroturfing Alert! Bobby on election day:

"Get out and vote. Or better still as the eeyore suggested save yourself the hassle and stay at work and actually get paid for your time. At this point McCain-Palin haven't got a hope in hell so I for one aint wasting my precious time standing in a line."
Posted by: Bobby in Philly at November 04, 2008 10:29 AM (fJxOp)

180

As I said last night, Fox News has gone over to kiss Bama’s ass. When I turned it on this morning thinking that maybe the day after they would have gone back to normalcy, no such luck. They were still licking the dingle’s off his ass and swooning at his feet. The TV is off today, no more Fox News which means no more TV news period. Since I have cancelled all my liberal papers that means internet news exclusively.

 

As for the assholes trashing Sarah Palin, these are the NE liberal scum of the Republican Party. We can see now that the NE States are now locked out for the Republicans so we need to quit pandering to them. They need to be purged from the party. This includes RINO Rudy, RINO Romney the flip-flopper, and Maverick McCain the stick poker.

 

The RINO wing is attacking Palin for two reasons. First they want to divert the blame of a liberal Republican losing and second they want to drive a stake through any conservative with a chance in 2012.  They don’t even care that they are killing the chances for the Party in 2010.

 

That is the problem with the fucking RINOs all the way around. The only thing they care about is getting elected and reelected, the public and principles can be damned. Well fuck ‘em and feed ‘em fish heads as we used to say in the Asia-Pacific world.

181 I can't believe this.

I wouldn't have mattered if McCain had run a perfect campaign.  The incumbent party never wins in years where the stock market declines between July and November. Never. Unless there is a war on that a bigger concern than the economy.  No such war this year.  It was the economy stupid.  It is always the economy.

Where the economy is perceived to be growing the incumbent party wins, where the economy is perceived to be shrinking the incumbent party loses.

Like clockwork.

Stop blaming McCain or Palin or whoever. It was the economy.

182

Let's keep in mind here that Sarah Palin accepted the VP assignment with lots of enthusiasm but without being able to bring her own "team" with her. What aides she might have brought (including Todd and her family) were the only ones actually loyal to her. Everyone else came from the McCain camp or from some other primary candidates camp. She came aboard as the quitessential "outsider" and was shewed up by the process b/c there were not enough people looking out for her. She literally was "Mr Smith Goes to Washington" but this time, the "professionals" won. If she had been a primary candidate, or if she had been running for President since she graduated college, she would already have had a team of loyalists to protect her and her image.Since this was not in her planning, she got "used" by the system.

She is good but not yet great. She can become great. The best thing she can do right now is to return to Alaska and "nail" the Governor's job. A few more years of being the best and most popular governor in the country will be good. She should also work in the National Governors association and get acquainted with more "national" ideas. She should be an solid spokesman for "conservatives", not "Republicans". She could challenge Lisa Murkowski for Senate in 2010 but I would not do that unless she is as corrupt as Ted Stevens. Re-election as Governor in 2010 is probably better. The worst thing she could do is to look for platform as a "talk show host" as I have heard some suggest. She should buckle down and show how conservatives act and govern.

183 What may be the irony of ironies: Obama = GWB III

184 I wonder what kind of inconvenience GWB can create via executive order as a parting shot?  Remember dear old Bill, had weeks of pardons et. al.

185

McCain lost the race when he took the Public Financing route.

 

One of the few reasons he kept it as close as he did was Sarah-She is why I voted for him and worked to get him votes.

 

McCain should have never pulled out of MI- He had a better shot there tha PA, they went for Obama about the same,- only difference was McCain dumped millions into PA, and nothing into MI for the last month.  Sarah was right on that.

 

McCain should have NEVER backed the bailout after they added $150 BILLION in absolute CRAP to it. And then he whined about Discretionary spending???? What a dumbass.

 

We had a winning issue in Immigration reform.Glad to see us flush that down the shitter by nominationg the dottering old fool, but that is on the heads of the idiots in the early primary states who supported/voted for him.

 

Sarah needs to go back to Alaska, keep doing what she was doing, start making Fox Appearances, etc. and be available to campaign for Republicans in a couple years. 

 

She count on me if she wants to run in 2012.

186

Do we know who the anon sources are yet? If we don't, let's start digging dirt on Carl for even airing the story. Reporters aren't the only one that can dig dirt and throw muck. Until we know who those gutless sources are, start with Carl. Everyone has dirty laundry, lets find it and make sure he spreads all over the net.

Turn the tables on these assholes rather than just sitting here bitching about it

187

How fucked up do you have to be to get everything you wanted and STILL be angry?

(I'm looking at you "Pauline".)

188 If you haven't figured it out, Pauline is the V*ra B*ker sp*mmer.

189

the "new" demon-cratic party is socialistic.....it has taken the term "for the people " to the edge of the cliff.....ideology never blooms well in real everyday life.....(housing projects, welfare, funding increase to single moms) being more centered (pushed to the center by the new dnc) to be more productive EVERYDAY, conservative voices must remind and stress how important it is to be a conservative....the new socialist movement growing in america is an alarm......it's like accepting orgies/key parties/swinger clubs in basements as normal weekend activities....

190 That is the problem with the fucking RINOs all the way around. The only thing they care about is getting elected and reelected, the public and principles can be damned

I don't think that's true. They'd rather lose with liberalism then win with conservatism. And for the lest several years, they have.

The GOP of New York and New Jersey is their model.

191

A second prediction, somewhat less sure:  Four years from now, both campaigns will spend at least one billion dollars.

Proposal: RNC REFUSES TO DO BASIC CREDIT CARD SECURITY UNTIL DNC PROVES THAT IT WILL TOO.

192 Sarah Palin naysayers (which I find really odd) obviously never heard or saw her speak live at a rally. I was lucky enough to attend a Virginia rally for her, and she is electrifying. Bright, charming, charismatic. So...naysayers, learn some manners, and get a life.

193 Here's the deal, these guys came to her, she didn't go looking for this. She stepped in to help and serve. If McCain is so honorable he should shut this crap down now and come out in support of her. If he does not, then he can shove his "honor" up his butt.

194

I think our slogan for the next 4 years should be, "No Palin, no peace!"

She is the best thing that happened to GOP in decades.

I, for once, will neither vote for nor financially support any ticket that she is not on, preferably at the top. And if GOP puts forth Romney or Huckabee, I'm staying home or voting Libertarian.   

195 It's wrong to blame it all on her.  She's got my support.  McCain should have something to say that's positive on the subject and show his support for her. 

196 well put. Count me among those who were anti McCain right up until he announced gov. Palin. I had always considered him king RINO, flying a flag of convenience, along with my soon-to-be former Congressman Shays.
Someone above put the treatment of her in good context for me, that the political class is eating one who is not of their own. Thats it. I've been thinking about whether I want her to take Stevens place if he is thrown out, and I'm not sure I want her contaminated by the Senate. A governor governs , a Senator collects filth. Lets keep her running her state, kicking the out the corrupt, until the next election season.
He lost because he tried to trade the base for the mythical undecided voters.
basically, he refused to ride the teams of Clydesdales that were marching by, and tried to wait for a passing unicorn.

also, I''m not a concern troll, from the thread last night, the difference i see between Sarah and Jundal re: creationism is that Jindal wants it in science classes. as for whoever suggested that stupid ben stein movie? please. but this isn't a place for the unwinnable discussion of science vs. mythology.

197

Why are we still getting these fucking Axelturfers? The GD election is over and we know from the report on Drudge that Bastard Bama is going to stiff them.

198 Palin needs to do to the RNC what she did to the GOP in Alaska.  Throw them the finger and run against them.  There is a conservative movement out there searching for a leader, and she could be it if she steps up.

199 McCain's connected, if he wanted to shut this down he could, or at least counter it. She put her ass on the line for you Mac, be a freakin' man and soldier up!

200 28

Biden makes Palin look like a genius ...

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Biden makes Dan Quayle look like a genius.  An anon. soucre says Dan called up Joe and thanked him for taking the crown of "biggest idiot" away from him.

201

Nice to see this- Roy Blount stepping down as minority whip

I want everyone associated with this joke of a leadership blown out.

Cantor should get this- hopefully Shadegg and pence will rise also.

Time to remove the GOP trash in Congress

202 Michael K, good points.

She could challenge Lisa Murkowski for Senate in 2010 but I would not do that unless she [Murkowski] is as corrupt as Ted Stevens.

Anyone "suggesting" Palin become a talk-show host is not thinking clearly. Palin is already an effective conservative politician and we already have a bounty of effective talk-show hosts. But Palin's point that the media need to realign with responsibility of content is absolutely on the mark, and I hope that she is able with the help of conservative voices to encourage objective American journalism as the norm.

203

We need less focus on personality and more on issues than we got with Johnny McComity.  Sarah is an attractive personality, sure, but her ideas and accomplishments as a self-made woman are what needs to be sold to America, and the selling has to start right now.

And oh yes... every American needs to see a video of her flying her Piper SuperCub floatplane, giving us a tour of the route and construction work on the pipeline she made happen!  Fuck yeah!

204 Do we know who the anon sources are yet?

According to Frum, it's Nicolle Wallace.

205 The problem with the McCain aides is that they don't want to admit the real problem. Their guy couldn't draw the huge crowds that Palin did repeatedly. They felt threatened by her popularity. Hell, Obama ran against her. Not McCain. Even Obama knew who the real threat was.

206

Just for the record, I've been a large Sarah Palin supporter.  I've said nothing but good things about her.

But, is it true that she didn't know the signatories of NAFTA?  And, did she, really, not know that Africa is a "Continent?"

I'm staying out of the argument until I know the answers to these charges.

207

Sarah Palin was the reason that Mac got 51 million-plus votes, or whatever the final total was.  Otherwise, it may have been more of an electoral landslide for "The One."

Voters were excited about Sarah.  When I worked the phones and talked to people, or when I just talked to other conservatives I know, some were going to vote for  McCain anyway, but after he picked Sarah Palin, they were very enthusiastic!

Don't trash Sarah, she's not the reason we lost. 

208  Meant to say remove them from leadership positions- they can stay and hold Cantors coat if need be.

209 Boehner is still trying to stay in place as Minority Leader in the House. Fuck him - he's a poster boy for GOP incompetence.

210 I saw Nicolle Wallace on TV, and she just radiates venom. With handlers like this, who needs enemies?

I was going to sit this one out too until he picked Palin.  McCain should come out and defend her. They bungled the campaign and cost McCain at least partly the election.  Palin was the only reason he did as well as he did.

211 The good news is that this story keeps the Olbermann/Maddow/Obama infomercial show in business for a few more days before they start crapping over the last days of the Bush administration. After January 20th, they have to take the narrative to prosecuting member of the Bush administration for "war crimes" or they will be officially out of stuff to talk about.

212

I support and will continue to support Sarah Palin. 

John McCain should be ashamed of himself for allowing this to percolate for more than one 30 second spot.

And the rest of the shitheads dumping on Palin are relegated to pieces of shit in a diarrhea pile.  FoxNews, Parker, Noonan, Will, Krauthammer, - all dead to me. 

 

213

Are the "thank you Sarah Palin" comments set to be emailed to Juneau? I'll register my rage at the leakers in some other thread.

But here: I would like to register my sincere thanks to the Governor, for trying; and to those staffers who stuck by her. May you continue to govern your state as well as you have governed it the past two years. And keep an eye on that Siberian strait...

214 But, is it true that she didn't know the signatories of NAFTA?  And, did she, really, not know that Africa is a "Continent?"

Love that Axelturf.

215 It's obvious that some here are embarrassed by the Palin supporters in the party .
To them I can only say . Get the fuck over it . If you country club types drive us away then I'm sure you'll enjoy that 15% electoral support that you've earned. I'll just take my work stained hands and jeans and go home .

I'm one of those that could give a shit less about Palins evangelical beliefs . I like her for her small govt, anti -corruption , pro - military , and second amendment stances.

Some say she's an intellectual lightweight and shouldn't represent the GOP . Well, Sununu is a really smart guy , by all accounts . You'll note that he's going to be 'spending more time with his family' next year.

Jeff B and railwriter , Peggy Noonan isn't wearing a bra today . If you put on your nerdy fanboy glasses I bet you can see some nipple.

216 But, is it true that she didn't know the signatories of NAFTA?  And, did she, really, not know that Africa is a "Continent?"

Rufus - are you stupid? Are you still waiting on the verdict of whether she belonged to a secessionist party, or whether Trig is her son? Since when has anything negative about Sarah been true. Fucking idiot.

217 But, is it true that she didn't know the signatories of NAFTA?  And, did she, really, not know that Africa is a "Continent?"

I agree with Allah's take on that - in order to believe those rumors are true, one would have to believe Palin is a bona fide idiot.  They went too far with their criticism, and it shows.

218 Face the facts - even Fox News hates all of you. Rush just uses you to get rich. If he really loved you HE would save the GOP.

Why don't you angry right wing haters do the right thing and start blowing shit up? You people have more in common with raghead terrorists than you think: religious intolerance, check. Love violence, check. Hate women, check. Secretly gay, check.

You guys can be the Wolverines, and we'll get the cool Nazi-Commy uniforms. Just remember that Swayze gets wacked at the end. Mmmmmmm, Swayze. Now I'm going to have to go down to Ft. Benning this weekend and seduce another Airborn Ranger. Those guys really should cut back on the alcohol. I look kind of girly, but not that girly!!! Sheesh!!!

219

They are blaming her because they know she is the person that can and will get votes! They are scared of that connection she has with the voting public. Premptive shit in the event she tries for a higher office than governor.

They know like the rest of us that she is the reason McCain even had a chance

 

 

220

There's a reason for everything.  John McCain would have been a terrible president.  But the one good thing he did was pick Sarah Palin.  Sarah got a baptism by fire and now knows what it will take for her to become a national player, if she wants it.  She will eventually be seen as having been a good sport in this campaign, and as the good soldier who took one for the team so someone else didn't have to. 

And assholes like Rick Davis and Nicole Wallace will never work on a national campaign again.  Good riddance to bad rubbish.  Hopefully we will also avoid the cult-candidacies like McCain in the future.  We need to build a movement first, then figure out who is the best person to lead it.

One thing I know, having worked on campaigns myself and knowing virtually everyone in the Republican campaign world for the last 25 years, is that we need not only new candidates but new strategists and managers.  Everyone associated with Karl Rove needs to go find a real job.  Rove was magnificent for his time, but his time is over and we need to reconstruct this party from scratch, the way the Democrats just did.  It's not that hard.

I don't think Sarah Palin is The One to lead us out of the wilderness.  It needs to be someone from out there in the Real America, but not her.  She can play a big part in the revival of Republicanism.  I just don't want to see a lot of good conservatives waste time and effort pushing her to a place she doesn't belong. 

221 Isn't some of this Foxnews waking up the day after the election and realizing that they are completely locked out of the executive branch in January?

If they think this type of behavior is going to make the left like them, forget it. And now they lost any moderates and conservative viewers.

222 Posted by: Elitist Lib at November 06, 2008 12:21 PM (fdXAd)

You'll note that for the most part, everyone is ignoring you?

Try harder.  Eventually we'll show you the love we show to trolls, but you've got to bring your A-game.

223 Great picture: ........................ http://www.patrickmoberg.com/november-4-2008.jpg

224

Issues and ideas are important but you need an articulate and charismatic messenger to move them forward.

re: Quayle - he is just better than Biden period, in every dimension.

225

Someone please answer me this: How could McCain select/surround himself with the standard run-of-the-mill  Model T era Republicans, then go for Pallin as his VP choice? Seems to be at opposite ends of all definitions of Republican/Conservative politics. Was it that he didn't know what he was doing or did he merely laspse into a brief moment of brilliance?

Anysohow, are we not grateful that we were introduced to yet another rising young star to give us the hope and courage to move forward in a positive direction? 

226

Washington and its disgusting culture is a cancer on this country.  McCain is like Algore, a product of that city.  I find it interesting that McCain didn't have an overwhelming majority in Arizona, much like Gore couldn't carry Tennessee.  The Uhhbama's strength was just what we maligned—the community organizer bit played a lot better than 4-term senator, just like Sarah small-time mayor/small-state governor portrayal served her better than eleventy-term jackass senator. 

In the words of Reverend Wright, may God damn DC!  

227 Palin was a trooper...she answered the call.....came in and did the heavy lifting for the failed McCain campaign.  These incompetant staffers are looking for someone to blame....these are the same staffers who thought that Joe Lieberman (God love him!) was what we needed for the GOP to win!!...Yeh Right!!  This says more about McCain than I would care to know.  They brought her in and she was ready to help...it was their responsibility to help her along.  She was outstanding.....look at the numbers for the GOP convention and for her debate with the laughable Biden....now there is one incompetant guy!!  Who are these rube staffers?  If McCain does not step in, comment,  and fix this by correcting this misinformation I will fight him tooth and nail on everything he tired to do legistlatively.  Who doesn't stop and personally thank a candidate who gave her all for him!!  What creeps they all are!!  Sarah Palin is one of the bright stars in our conservative future!!  She is full of grace and common sense!!

228 Sarah basically needs to do what Nixon did after his loss:

1) Become the premier fundraiser/speechmaker around the country for the GOP - use her popularity with the base to provide lots of money to state GOP and PAC orgs, build up her own network of supporters

2) Find friendly or, at least, not actively hostile media environments to re-establish her creds, a book could help with her vision for America

3) Do a damn good job as governor

4) Once the Dims do something stupid, and they will, become the voice of the opposition - always be a happy warrior, more laughing at their stupidity than anger.

5) Establish a diverse group of young Republican conservatives around the country, mentor them, find likeminded governors, etc and establish a Rep. version of Clinton's DNC.

For someone with her gifts, anything is possible if she's willing to fight.

BO will present several opportunities. Seize them.

229

My two cents:

Sen McCain was never my first choice. When he did not instantly reject Sen Kerry's offer of being the Dem VP candidate in 2004, he went to the bottom of my list for POTUS. How can anyone run as a Republican when they considered being the Democrat VP candidate?

Sen McCain ran a flawed, but "honorable" campaign. But, as he found out, being "honorable" does not win elections. When your opponent has serious character, ethical, and moral flaws, you do not take the high road and take those flaws off the table. You hammer the alliances your opponent has with Marxists, terrorists, racists, and felons. You point out that your opponent, and the rest of the Dems, were the reason for the financial crisis we find ourselves in. You do not blame Wall Street greed. You blame Dodd, Frank, and Obama. They are the ones, along with ACORN, that caused the problem. You hammer your opponent on his documented ties to ACORN, 24/7. You do not ignore the stream of lies put out by your opponent. You do not ignore the fact that your opponent never answers questions directly. You hammer your opponent on his failure to release documents about his past, on his numerous opposite stances on issues, and his socialist rhetoric. You don't let him lie about the tax cuts. You don't let him lie about your health plan. You are supposed to be in this to win, not be honorable. Your opponent certainly wasn't "honorable."

Sen McCain had a good theme: "Put Country First." Unfortunately, he did not put our country first. By being "honorable", he allowed a socialist to be elected POTUS. That is not in the best interest of America. If he truely was interested in putting "Country First," he should have have set his "honor" aside, and gone for the kill. He urged us to "FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT," then refused to fight, himself. Gov Palin put up the fight, but Sen McCain did not.

I think Sen McCain's chances were doomed from the minute he became the Republican candidate. The election results bears this out. Sen McCain received about 6,000,000 fewer votes than Pres Bush received in 2004. Where did all these Republican voters go? I cannot believe they voted for BHO. When you factor in the PUMAs who voted for Sen McCain because of the treatment Sen Clinton received, and the GOP has Gov Palin on the ticket, the drop off in Republican turnout was even higher. Why?Because he is not a conservative. He's a moderate. While he may have picked up some PUMAs and moderates, he drove away more core conservatives than Gov Palin attracted.  If it wasn't for Gov Palin, he would have lost by 15,000,000, rather than 7,500,000.

It was further doomed because the MSM was totally (save Fox News) in the tank for BHO. Sen McCain needed to call the MSM on their blatant bias. He never did. He let the MSM frame the campaign. He did nothing to stop them.

Our hopes in 2012 rest squarely on the shoulders of Gov's Palin and Jindal. Eeyore's will find some flaws with whomever the GOP nominates. But none are as flawed as our POTUS-elect.

Palin/Jindal in 2012.

230

Rufus is it true that:

Obama didn't know his own state of Illinois bordered Kentucky?  He didn't know that Auschwitz was liberated by the Russians and not the Americans? He didn't know that Arabic was not the language of Afghanistan?

Until I know the answers to those charges I cannot make a decision on Obama's intelligence.

What, they have him on tape? Okay then.

231 Also, since it's Romney's ops trying to kneecap her,

Romney is dead to me, now and forever as a candidate. He will never get my support or vote.

I used to like him but , fuck him.

232 Palin made the shot that stunned Obama to the ground.
McCain failed to finish off his opponent.
McCain feigns "compassion" as cowardice.
McCain failed to hit the target, and failed to protect his base.
All the while, Palin covered McCain's back
while suffering a thousand blows and cuts from his staff.

McCain's campaign performance was dismal.
Republicans and McCain do not deserve each other.

Palin does not deserve McCain's abuse,
whether overt or passive aggressive.

233 Sarah Palin is the reason the base got excited about supporting McCain. Otherwise he was a democrat in republican clothing.

234 Newsflash for you hillbillies: we're only getting the tip of the iceberg on the Cuda Clam! Soon to follow - verified info that Trigg is Bristol's baby, that Sarah screwed Todd's fellow snowmobile business partner, and that Levi is leavin' Bristol (I suspect Todd knocked Bristol up, it's the Wasilla way).

Alaska is just Alabama with ice, and Eskimos and Athabascans instead of blacks. Sarah Palin's next guest appearance? Jerry Springer. You heard it here first!

235 Romney/Jindal in 2012.

Palin, like McCain, were foisted on us by GOP insiders.  The few people I knew were talking about Palin for a year before she was nominated.  And of course, you primary McCain voters.  ugh.  Thansk

236 As is the way of elections, everything the winner did will be deemed brilliant, and everything the loser did was hopeless. But McCain’s only big blunder was in choosing Sarah Palin as his running mate. It was after that that Obama’s opinion poll leads blew out. ............ ‘The Palin effect’ is a phrase that will probably never be coined, but it should be. It would signify a dramatic move that sends a party’s base into rapturous high fives, and appeals to voters on some level, but still sends the middle ground running to the other candidate.

237 "Try harder.  Eventually we'll show you the love we show to trolls, but you've got to bring your A-game."

Slu, shouldn't you examine the name?

It's a parody of a troll.

238

Also, since it's Romney's ops trying to kneecap her,

Is that based on fact or just more rumor?

239 FUCK THE GOP

There is still time to build a new Party before 2012...call it the Liberty Party or something...conservatives, libertarians...no BELTWAY LOSERS!

240

204 Do we know who the anon sources are yet?

According to Frum, it's Nicolle Wallace.

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OK we have a name. Let's crawl into ever crevice of her life and dig up dirt on her and plaster it all over the internet. Everyone has skeletons in her closet. Let's get real stuff rather than innuendo and bullshit and make her life and every dirty deed an open book

241

I wanna see Palin with an automatic double barrel shot gun with 50 rounds...(something big and strong aiming at a "new" dnc sign) (forgive me if my description of a machine gun isn't up to par....) I really hate the idea of the govt moving towards a welfare state...it scares me, but then it motivates me, I never was so politically sensitive until this election...I believe when the winter months hit, and the believers are freezing in their homes cause of the rising energy cost, the chill they'll suffer through with money flying out the window to pay for heat----and russia arming, and controling more than half the energy in the world.....

I believe Palin/Jindal...Jindal/Palin.......2012....spank those smelly lefties back into their momma's basements...with their gallon sized vaseline....and greasy keyboards....

242 I would like each of your members to put their heads together. We need to form a "moveon.org" like coalition - they gave Obama 88 million and 1 million volunteers.  We are wasting time. Legislation that will change America FOREVER is moving forward, i.e., UN tax on America, card check, Fairness Doctrine. We need one loud voice - we should call it wethepeople.org

243 Palin excited the base in much the same way that my boyfriend's farts excite me - everytime I catch a wiff I sprout a chubber. But much like a fart, Sarah will linger past her prime and then dissipate entirely - and no one will even remember her in 6 months.

244 "Posted by: Carlos at November 06, 2008 12:30 PM (B5k/5)"

Now this is an actual troll.

245 Posted by: someone at November 06, 2008 12:30 PM (zHoxL)

I hope so, but the last entry is a taking the joke a bit too far, I think.

246 Rufus: a little trolling today?  Only an idiot or a troll would "wonder" about whether or not Palin knew who is in NAFTA.  Hello she works/negotiates with Canada every other week.  Man you people are so transparent, unlike your boy, btw.  Hope you get all the hope-n-change you can stand you colossal douche. 

247 I never felt Fox news was behind McCain.  I was embarrassed by the interview O'Reilly did with BO.  He may as well have just kissed his butt.  But, then again, when the McCain supporter dissed BO and McCain came to his defense saying he will make a good president I began to think that McCain and O'Reilly were trying to throw the election.

Having watched this election.  Seeing things on the television and the internet.  Assuming that the American people were too smart to miss many obvious things and then realizing that I was an ass for assuming that.  Realize that we are all working very hard.  There is no time in our lives for rest really.  Therefore, we tend to rely on the media and the internet.  If the media is lying to you and the internet uncovers stuff that the candidate doesn't capitalize on then your average person just makes their decisions accordingly.  I mean everyone got an email from BO before he walked out to make that speech in Chicago.  Everyone talks about him like he is their friend.  Shows how the dems are way ahead they have figured out that most people, though they have friends feel quite isolated at times and actually can believe that senator smoothie is their bud.

248 I think Palin is a classy and competent lady.  I admire her a lot, and think she could still pull something out in 2012.  Big Media and those priggish, Beltway pundits don't matter one wit.  It's the base the counts.  Conservatism is alive and well, and Palin could get the base out.

And one benefit of this fiasco is that Biden will no longer be taking his crackpot ideas to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.  For the next four years, that nitwit will be sitting in the Naval Observatory, twiddling his thumbs.

249 Begin the vetting:

Nicolle Wallace is currently serving as a senior advisor to the John McCain campaign. She was previously Assistant to the President for Communications under the Bush Administration.

According to whitehouse.gov: Nicolle Devenish Wallace served as Communications Director for Bush-Cheney '04. Prior to joining the campaign, Devenish was Special Assistant to the President and Director of Media Affairs at the White House where she oversaw regional press strategy and outreach.

Before joining the Bush Administration, Devenish was Florida Governor Jeb Bush's Press Secretary and later Communications Director for the Florida State Technology Office.

Devenish also served California's Assembly Republican Caucus from 1997 to 1998 and worked for the California Republican Party in 1998. She received her bachelor’s degree from the University of California, Berkley and her master’s degree from Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University.

250

Off-topic from Coulter. Made me laugh:

This was such an enormous Democratic year that even John Murtha won his congressional seat in Pennsylvania after calling his constituents racists. It turns out they're not racists -- they're retards. Question: What exactly would one have to say to alienate Pennsylvanians? That Joe Paterno should retire?

Apparently Florida voters didn't mind Obama's palling around with Palestinian activist Rashid Khalidi and Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, either. There must be a whole bunch of retired Pennsylvania Jews down there.

 

251 No president since Calvin Coolidge in 1924 has won fewer than four states in the old Confederacy. No Democrat has ever done it -- until now. ............. Instead, the north, the midwest and the west coast, once good Republican territory, are now voting overwhelmingly Democrat. It's a powerful lesson in what happens when you rely on just one section of the country, and especially when you pander to its worst elements.

252 She is a thorn in their side for several reasons. They know she is a vote getter. They know she is a reformer. They are scared to death she will run for an office higher than Governor and then they are screwed when she gets in that office. That she is a reformer taking on corruption in her own party as well and is a major threat to their own corruption. They are trying to nuetralize her before she gets somewhere powerful enough to go take them down. We know it and so do they

253 I voted for Palin not McCain. I will vote for her again. We have work to do for 2010 but, I warn you Palin has my vote for 2012.

254

All these stories about McCain staffers and Governor Palin are crap.  We should just ignore this garbage.  The last thing the Republican Party needs right now is this stupid infighting.  Look, its clear some McCain staffers were assholes.  But guess what?  All campaigns have assholes on them.  Bush had them.  Reagan had them.  It’s not a personal reflection of McCain.  (Hell, most of his staff is made up of old Bush people.  A lot of the old McCain loyalists from 2000 are long gone.)  People who maintain this personally reflects on McCain are just trying to reinforce their pre-existing hatred of McCain (e.g., “I knew McShamnesty sucked! Look at what his staffers are doing to Palin!”)  They’re also ignoring the fact that McCain has already come out and told his staffers to shut up about Palin.

Sarah’s image has unfairly taken a beating but I only blame McCain in one area: If she wasn’t ready to do interviews on day one he never should have picked her.  (Moreover, she never should’ve accepted.)  But she can come back by 2012.  All she needs to do is get more informed about international issues.  That can be taught.  Political charisma, something she has in spades, cannot.  Even all this McCain vs. Palin crap probably works to her favor since the Republican base hates McCain so passionately.  

Did Sarah Palin cost McCain the election?  Hell no.  At worst she made McCain’s loses in blue states bigger losses.  Did she help McCain?  Since I don’t see evidence she flipped any states for him I’d say “No.” At best, she made his red state losses closer losses (e.g., North Carolina, Virginia, Florida, etc.) But I don’t think she was the reason he won the red states he did end up winning (e.g., Alabama, Mississippi, Texas, etc.)  The polls showed McCain was winning those states before Palin was added to the ticket.  She may have made those wins bigger though.  Conclusion: The net effect of Palin on McCain winning or losing was ‘nil.  McCain lost for other reasons: 1) Hispanic voters abandoned the Republican Party and cost McCain Western states like Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada, 2) McCain’s dislike of ethanol subsidies cost him votes in the Mid-West (especially Iowa), 3) Bush Derangement Syndrome combined with the Democrats foray into populist anti-trade demagoguery during the primaries cost McCain places like Ohio, Michigan and Indiana and 4) a big chunk of the conservative Republican base stayed home because they hate McCain – likely costing him states like Indiana, North Carolina and Virginia.  Sarah had nothing to do with any of these effects.  (2) and 4) are McCain specific while 1) and 3) would’ve hurt any Republican candidate.)

255 I give her credit for her RNC provided wardrobe though - in many cases all a girl needs is a fab outfit and 20k in makeup/hair.

Who the hell is that tranny fisherman at the top of this post? Bring the "REAL" Cuda Clam back, please.

And BTW and FYI, next halloween GBLT America is going to OWN the Cuda Clam. She's our new Bette, Judy, and Dolly - a gay icon to die for!

256 Poly nikes

I really do not feel like doing the tiny url thing. However those tapes of comments are available via a google search.

Obama's Auschwitz comment was made on May 26, 2008 at a Town Hall event in Arizona.

Obama'a Afghan language comment was made on May 13, 2008 at a Town Hall event in Missouri.  

257 Sarah got McCain my money, my vote, my enthusiasm.  I imagine it is the case with many others.  Maybe the people bitching in the McCain camp are the ones who never liked the base anyways.  Their liberal friends hate Sarah, therefore Sarah was a bad choice.

258 Now that you mention it ... maybe Obama makes Biden look brilliant

259

There are quite a few anti-Sarah "anonymous" comments that appear every time I suggest that she is a bright star.

 

And they all have something in common:  they are dispassionate and condescending, devoid of logic and proofs for their position.  IOW, they're the "cool crowd's" usual approach--i.e., we cannot make a case so we'll just be cooler than you guys and spew utter disdain for all of you.

 

Frum's caught that disease--he's all about "college-educated" voters going center-left.

 

I wonder if Frum knows how many people fraudulently claim a college degree.

260 Do we have any links to exit polls indicating what percentage of those that voted for McCain did so because of Palin?

Inquiring minds want to know.

For the record, I was one.

261 we should call it wethepeople.org

No.

FightTheFourthReich.org

Obama is a Marxist with totalitarian tendencies, just like Mussolini and Hitler. The Obama Administration is the Fourth Reich.

And we need to fight it.

262 I voted for the McCain campaign. I volunteered at their local office. I honestly thought that they would govern the country in an efficient manner. Given from what I've witnessed in the aftermath, I'm beginning to believe this loss might be the best thing for conservatism and indeed the Republican party in the long run.
There's a reason Dante saved the innermost circle of hell for traitors....

263 I'm guessing Nicole Wallace will be shopping a book proposal soon.

264 I emailed the McCain campaign my utter disgust at this treatment of Gov Palin. I hope Sen McCain comes out and publicly denounces the crap soon. Not much else to do but out the @zzholes leaking these rumors.

265 2) "bitch" - "Commandment 11: Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican" - Ronaldus Magnus

There's a commandment that needs to be broken. Not only do they need to be ill-spoken of, they need to be sent packing.

266 I absolutely adored that woman. She was like the female version of Ted Nugent to me. Before she got on the ticket I was really hating having to vote for McCain, I was never a fan of his. Gov Palin had me excited to vote for the ticket. Before Gov Palin, I found myself just voting against osama and not actually "for" anything, Palin gave me something to vote for.

I blame McCain for being an idiot, he could have won this if he fought.

I blame the media, they are the biggest pack of bolshevic sucking whores. They didn't lift a finger to investigate this marxist piece of islamic shit obama, but went to all lengths to destroy palin. I hope when the balloon goes up we see them swinging from lamp posts.

I blame the cuntus maximus wing of the female population who I knew damn well were going to vote with their private parts. They could have broke the ultimate glass ceiling and pushed Sarah through, but nope, voting for the "cool" marxist scumbag and the right to have their womb vacumed was more important than elevating women.

267 It's a parody of a troll.

Perhaps. Perhaps not. It can be hard to tell the difference.

268 They went too far with their criticism, and it shows. Posted by: Slublog at November 06, 2008 12:21 PM (R8+nJ)

Yeah. And the b.s. that Palin reduced them to tears. Do you think anyone could reduce these catty bitches to tears?

269 I like all the talk about retaking the party - you guys are a bunch of pansies! If you want a picture of a real conservative, who's truly willing to put everything on the line, look no farther than Randy Weaver, Eric Rudolph, and Tim McVeigh. They were the real deal, true WOLVERINES!

You guys are just a bunch of poseurs, all talk and no action. No wonder you got schooled by a bunch of liberals, kids, and ethnics.

270 Perhaps. Perhaps not. It can be hard to tell the difference.

True.  That's a bit disturbing.

271 Umm Carlos why don't you do something useful like fix the fucking site clock to reflect the time change.  Otherwise go back to Kos/DU or whatever site of insanity you call "home" because here you sound like a cocksucking dunce.

272 And BTW and FYI, next halloween GBLT America is going to OWN the Cuda Clam. She's our new Bette, Judy, and Dolly - a gay icon to die for!

Hey, Elitist Lib - you do realize that we actually like homos at Ace of Spades, right? Some of the best morons here are flaming homos. Go recalibrate your stereotypes of conservatives.

It's all right that she becomes a gay icon, since Sarah has shown more support for gay rights than Obama. You've heard that Obama's supporters killed gay marriage in California, right?

273 Frum's caught that disease--he's all about "college-educated" voters going center-left.

More like hard-left.

It was never the working class who were fans of left-wing politics. For stupidity of that sort you have always had to look to those who have been "educated".

274 I blame the cuntus maximus wing of the female population ... voting for the "cool" marxist scumbag and the right to have their womb vacumed was more important than elevating women.
- Posted by: Hellfire at November 06, 2008 12:44 PM (AcZF0)

Umm, statements like these might somewhat undercut your credibility on the subject of elevating women. IYKWIMAITYD.

275 What's the old prayer?

"Lord, I can handle my enemies - please protect me from my 'friends'."

276 A quick word about Quayle-bashing. Indiana is my home: born here, raised here, much of my adult life spent here, and during a Senate race many years ago I saw Pulliam family heir Dan Quayle debate perennial loser Jill Long (now Jill Long-Thompson), a respected IU professor, into the ground. He had her on facts, he had her on logic, he took her to fucking school on every issue, at every turn. It is a serious mistake to buy into a public perception molded by a hostile press. Admittedly, Quayle was no larger-than-life, charismatic vote magnet, but he was and is no fool, either.

277 No wonder you got schooled by a bunch of liberals, kids, and ethnics.

But you repeat yourself.

278 For someone with her gifts, anything is possible if she's willing to fight.

I agree. Palin ought to, and no doubt will, pursue her true alliances established from this campaign. The assholes mooning us all right now are doing the favor of pointing out who to eschew. Meanwhile, remember her acceptance and fantastic support from Fred Thompson and Rudy Giuliani upon introduction. As it is, she can learn from the best First Principles statesman and best Republican politician respectively instead of the ol' dud convolution. Meanwhile, she makes certain that the Alaskan pipeline through Canada is successfully accomplished, another feather for her headdress.

As per Romney, his financial accomplishments remain established via the SLC Church heirarchy's investment into him as their golden boy. A valid observation notes that his veneer peels too easily under duress. Where he could have proven his chops during the general campaign, he failed. 

279 I wondered if we were in trouble when all I heard was Sarah parroting McCain. She was kept on a short leash with a choke collar when they should've let her loose. She's full of fire, piss, and vinegar and that's what I liked about her. McCain didn't even begin to give her a chance to air her views. Fuckin' old fart, go back to Washington and kiss some more Democrat ass.

280

Thanks for the post, Sarah is a wonderful person and I wish her the best of luck with her family.She didn't deserve the treatment she got during the campaign and she certainly doesn't need her own side attacking her.If they want to attack someone they should attack the media,for being the cheerleaders for President SELECT Obama from the primaries on.

If the GOP continue to attack her I may have to rethink my affiliations,because as a woman I feel like they attacking me too.

281 I support Sarah Palin, I don't know if America deserves her.  Seems like Alaska is just better than America right now.

282 She scares the hell out of me,
her thinking is like steping right back to 1930.
I am convinced that the old guy lost votes due
to that her mind was even older than his.
Her speeches was even worst than the Iron Lady Mrs  Tatcher, she was also unable to touch the human souls.

283

**Begin the vetting: Nicolle Wallace is currently serving as a senior advisor to the John McCain **

 

Let’s not.

 

This happens every time a campaign loses. We have bigger issues than going after “traitors.” The Left would love nothing more than to watch the GOP get into a cat fight.

 

Palin’s ultimate fate will have nothing to do with this petty crap.

 

284 There's a commandment that needs to be broken. Not only do they need to be ill-spoken of, they need to be sent packing.

There's a difference between criticism and political defeat and namecalling.

285

We don't need to dig dirt on Nicole Wallace.  She has immolated herself quite nicely.

Interesting divergence of views on Palin here.  I was opposed to her before McCain picked her, because I know that no matter how well she did the media would slam her for being a first-term governor from a rural state, and not ready to be President if the ancient McCain dropped dead.  I also thought that it seemed a desperation pick to go after women who were pissed about Hillary losing to Obama.  Not to mention the fact that most of the men posting on the conservative blogs wanted her simply because she was hot.

But I will never forget what my liberal, Obama-supporting husband said after her RNC convention speech.  He told me, if she is the future, your party is in good shape. 

And the post-mortems coming out about her selection are interesting.  McCain settled on her because the alternatives were grim.  He knew a pick of Lieberman or Giuliani would blow up the party.  He hates Romney and knew he would get backstabbed by his people.  Pawlenty was probably the best alternative, but would not have shaken up the race.  McCain liked the idea of him and Palin as a "team of Mavericks" who would shake up Washington.  It's hard to second-guess any of that.

 

286 No more Sarah Palin posts. They're accomplishing nothing. Ignore the haters and move on. We've got bigger fish to fry.

Let's start working on 2010.

287 McCain should have run a scorched earth campaign.  At his age, he is nearing retirement, so there is no need to make nice for the future.  I say, go out with gun blazing.

288

hope and change: Obama picks Robert "you're an anti-semite Sean Hannity" Gibbs, DOW continues plunging

my bs meter on O being moderate level: 7

289 Posted by: Anna-Lys at November 06, 2008 12:52 PM (iET24)

Thank you, Anna-Lys.  Now when someone asks me "what's the stupidest thing you've ever heard/read," I have a benchmark by which to measure.

Bravo.

290 *hope and change: Obama picks Robert "you're an anti-semite Sean Hannity" Gibbs as his press secretary

291 I think that by accepting the nomination she's damaged goods for 2012, but it's possible we could see her in some other political role in the future (I would point out either as Secretary of Energy or Secretary of the Interior in a future Republican administration, for instance).

That being said, she got the same treatment Clarence Thomas got.  If you're part of a political "minority" group, the media and the political elite believe that, in order to get anywhere, you have to bow down and worship them for supposedly opening doors for you.  Palin knew this to be complete bullshit from the start, and the press wouldn't let her live it down.

292 Elitist Lib and other trolls:

Just remember, Hitler purged his Brownshirts. Obama's already preparing to liberate himself from you unworthy, under-employed deviants and disturbed thinkers. He no longer needs you. Didn't you notice how your kind suddenly has had their checks cut off?

Look who Obama's very first pick was to lead his staff. Emanual, a Clintonista beltway elite is the man to set the tone for who will run Obama's administration.

And didn't you notice all the oddities in the acceptance speech? In 5 hours, hope and change went to "We may not make any progress on my objectives in years... even in one term. We may have to settle for less. Many things we want will not happen. Many sacrifices will be required."

How's that whiplash today? I know my Obama-supporting coworkers are shocked at the changes. One who motivated hundreds of Ethiopians in his community to get out to vote for Obama said to me today that he almost has the impression that someone else now is pulling Obama's strings. He can't believe that Obama was fooling him all along with all the promises of gifts, free healthcare, free gasoline, liberty from mortgage payments, etc.

293

Thank you, Anna-Lys.  Now when someone asks me "what's the stupidest thing you've ever heard/read," I have a benchmark by which to measure.

Bravo.

Thank you, Slublog.

294 She scares the hell out of me,
her thinking is like steping right back to 1930.

Gee, who'd have guessed that Swedish socialists were ignorant of history?

295

McCain should have run a scorched earth campaign.  At his age, he is nearing retirement, so there is no need to make nice for the future.  I say, go out with gun blazing.

 

80% of votes thought the country was headed in the wrong direction. There was little McCain could do (although he could have done…something)

 

The GOP fuck-up goes back years folks. In 2002 the voters turned over the government to the GOP. What did they do with it? They road their post-9/11 wave and that was it. Gutless assholes.

 

296 Im sorry, I cannot control myself, but you guys have got to be kidding me .... the woman is a dunce and you want her leading our Nation? We deserve to lose with a candidate like Palin.

297

Im sorry, I cannot control myself, but you guys have got to be kidding me .... the woman is a dunce and you want her leading our Nation? We deserve to lose with a candidate like Palin.

Shut up and go away.

298 Jim, I realize that the GOP does not discriminate against the gays - see Larry Craig, Folley, Mitch McConnel and Liz Dole and Cheney's daughter. You don't have to convince me!

As far as Prop 8 goes, I'm glad it got turned down. Marriage is for the birds - the longer we remain "scandalous" the longer the party lasts. Legalized marriage would just put pressure on us to settle down.

OTOH, it would be nice to gaydopt a straight's kid and give 'em a better home, and totally convert them! Hopefully when the GM plant closes here I can get a Chevy driving car builder's kid - that would be super sweet! And why are all right wingers fat? That would be the upside of allowing me to gaydopt - no fatties allowed! No more junk food! Time for hot yoga and then a jog! Face it - we're healthier, smarter, wealthier, nicer and richer. You folks might be able to breed and have kids, but do you deserve them? All you bring to the table is a big ole spoonful of H-A-T-E!!!

299

I think that by accepting the nomination she's damaged goods for 2012, but it's possible we could see her in some other political role in the future (I would point out either as Secretary of Energy or Secretary of the Interior in a future Republican administration, for instance).

Someone already responded to this by pointing out Nixon's failed runs for President in 1960 and CA governor in 1962 and his return in 1968. Granted, times were much different then but who can say what things will be like in 4 or even 8 years. She's only 44.

300

"the woman is a dunce"

Brilliant, insightful, incisive.

You've conviced me. 

Thank you Walter.

301 the woman is a dunce and you want her leading our Nation

What makes you think she's a dunce? What makes you think that McCain, or Odumbo, or Biden (Biden!!!!) are smarter?

Really, I'd like to know.

302 Posted by: Anna-Lys at November 06, 2008 12:52 PM (iET24)

When you look in the mirror, you start crying because you're not Sarah Palin.  When you bounce checks because your math "skills" aren't up to the task of keeping it balanced, you start crying because you're not Sarah Palin.  When you contemplate the emptiness of your life, you start crying because you're not Sarah Palin.

303 She scares the hell out of me,
her thinking is like goose-steping right back to 1930.

Fixed it for you, asshole.

304 Her speeches was even worst than the Iron Lady Mrs  Tatcher, she was also unable to touch the human souls.

Uh-huh, yeah right. I attended one her rallies (an indoor event in Omaha where the 2500-person building was packed to the rafters and thousands more were turned away). The crowd was insane with enthusiasm - and it was all positive energy towards her, not a negative hate-fest against Obama like Big News tried to portray.

305 Who's this "we", Axelturfer boy?

306 All you bring to the table is a big ole spoonful of H-A-T-E!!!

Self-awareness is just one of the many things these people lack.

307 awww see, now you guys have dragged me into this colossal waste of time

This is a distraction. Move on.

308

Palin is a threat....the passion I see here proves it....Palin is a threat, people/everybody is still talking about her....Palin is a threat and no one  REALLY cares about biden.....Palin is a threat ....cause her life is the proof....can't argue with someone who actually walks the talk.....

Ace/Gabriel I love that you support her, and more hate the smelly, lefty, commie, shit eatin elite MSM critisize her---BIGGER PALIN WILL BECOME....let's play the"new"dnc's game right back at them....the only place for the messiah to go is down to the marxist/sludge he came from....and all the while, the Palins and Jindals in this country will grow and extinguish the praire fire the socialists have started.....

I believe what the new dnc have done is bring the rnc the best argument for a positve Palin comback in 2012.

309 See?  Jealousy.  Pea-green with envy.

310 302 Posted by: Anna-Lys at November 06, 2008 12:52 PM (iET24)

When you look in the mirror, you start crying because you're not Sarah Palin.  When you bounce checks because your math "skills" aren't up to the task of keeping it balanced, you start crying because you're not Sarah Palin.  When you contemplate the emptiness of your life, you start crying because you're not Sarah Palin.

Seems like a thread idea

311 We deserve to lose with a candidate like Palin.

Who's this we you're talking about?  You deserve to lose because you're a loser.

312

Well the Bamites at Politico are saying Gibbs will be  Press Secretaryso all that ass kissing that Peggy Noonan did was all for naught. RITFLMAO.

313 Im sorry, I cannot control myself

Not as sorry as we are, Walter, I assure you.

314 Fascinating how all the "interesting" posters show up to bash SP.  Guess the rumored internet hub isn't a rumor and maybe these people will now be hired full time to protect BO's interests across the internet.

315

I know this wil get ridiculed, but I suspect that Fox is trying to get Republicans to burn bridges because they know Obama is going to be disqualified. The only reason the Berg lawsuit hasn't accomplished anything is because he doesn't have standing. But I've heard that some electors and somebody else who was on the ballot have filed suits to have Obama prove his eligibility. I would sure think they have standing.

At first I thought the birth certificate thing was BS. But Obama is spending millions (I would bet) to keep from just having to show his Hawaii birth certificate. You don't spend millions keeping the embers of a loony conspiracy theory alive. You spend millions when there is a real threat. You also don't position guards at hospitals in Hawaii an in Kenya if those hospitals don't have records there. Why guard the hospital in Mombasa, Kenya and seal records that don't exist? If there are HOSPITAL records for Obama then he had to have been born there.

I haven't trusted Fox for a while now - and particularly their legal team, which filed copyright charges against McCain even when they knew his ads were legal according to fair use laws. One of the people on the legal team is an Obama contributor. African Press International gave her name as the one who drew up a contract to air a tape of Michelle Obama before Nov 4th - a contract which they violated. I don't know if such a tape exists, but API is naming a lot more names now and the names are checking out. If this is true, Fox will have a nasty lawsuit on their hands and they know that bloody hell may be coming if any other source will air the tapes, which API says is the case. Again, we'll see.

But the behavior I've seen from Fox - even back when Megyn Kelly was defending Fox against Bill Burton and Obama's own statements - leads me to think that Fox and Obama have been in contact more than they let on.

316 19 A blatant attempt by the professional political class to deter ordinary Americans from daring to get involved in "their" power games.

Exactly. And if we as a people don't rise up and utterly reject that bullshit, we deserve to keep losing.


AMEN!!!

317 she doesnt know .....

that Africa is a Continent
the countries that make up North America
how to construct grammatically correct sentences

she was an embarrassment to watch ... the "cringe" factor in the Katy Couric interview was off the charts and lost us 10 million votes in that half hour alone. We gotta have a candidate that can speak and know basic facts.

Good woman. Just not smart enough to represent us.

318

Look assholes, I was probably voting Republican before some of you were born.

That is, exactly, what Carl Cameron reported, yesterday.  I don't want it to be true.  I'd hit it, myself.  BUT, if it is I don't want to waste any more of my time on it.

319

Don’t all you Astroturfing assholes know that the election is over and the cockroach Obamite is not going to pay you?

320 Elitist Lib, give it a rest. Trolling is a battle of wit and will, intellect and verve. But you? A little forced and shrill, if you ask me. You're trying too hard, and you come loaded with misconceptions of who and what we are. Know your enemy, fail-troll. You don't know us at all. We know you, though: you're the faded, washed-out, lonely queen at the end of the bar. You don't smile much because you worry about crowsfeet and laughlines. You don't have many friends. People close to you have printed out online articles on narcissism, highlighted the relevant portions and left them around for you to read. You own a small dog and think it loves you more than any human being ever has, and you're right, you pathetic bastard.

321 Sarah Palin needs some experience. 2008 was part of that.

I would suggest that we follow Obama's scam by running on the economy and keeping the social con stuff to "wink wink, nudge nudge" and then "that's a distraction!" to the press.

322

Sounds like Rush is riffing on the Palin smears.

323 "Thank you, Anna-Lys.  Now when someone asks me "what's the stupidest thing you've ever heard/read," I have a benchmark by which to measure.

Bravo."


I am flattered! Tnx

:-)

324 OTOH, it would be nice to gaydopt a straight's kid and give 'em a better home, and totally convert them!

I'm glad you people keep telling us how darned "intellectual" you are, or I might start to think that you're about as "intellectual" as a petunia with fetal alcohol syndrome.

 

325 #311. "Who's this we you're talking about? You deserve to lose because you're a loser." ............... You're all losers. Didn't you see the results of the election? The GOP is irrelevant.

326 I voted for the McCain campaign. I volunteered at their local office. I honestly thought that they would govern the country in an efficient manner. Given from what I've witnessed in the aftermath, I'm beginning to believe this loss might be the best thing for conservatism and indeed the Republican party in the long run.
There's a reason Dante saved the innermost circle of hell for traitors....

Posted by: 80 Proof at November 06, 2008 12:43 PM (Q+6qd)

 

 

Amen Brother!

I drove down from MS to FL to work on the last few days of the campaign. I did NOT go to work for John McCain. I went to work for Sarah Palin. I only gave money to McCain the day he picked Sarah. John McCain was my absolute last choice in the primary. Yes, even behind Ron Paul. Fuck your campaign staffers John! They are the reason you got your ass handed to you. If I knew hot shitty your staff was going to be to Sarah I would never have invested my time, my vacation hours from work, gas money to work for you. Shame Shame.

John McCain is already being asked by Schumer to revert to the old "throw conservative under the bus" self. McCain will be gone in 2 years. Nepolitano and the blue staters overruning AZ are going to boot his ass in 2010.

327 Redherkey, Obama's talk about the long and hard fight ahead was just a set-up for making the case for a third term.

Obama is our new FDR. You're partially right though - Obama is not really the candidate of the young, the dark or the poor. He's a Hyde park liberal, not a Daly liberal. Something too nuanced for you dumbies to pick up on (Chicago is not a monolithic political org, there are factions within the political scene). Actually, you hard right types have more in common with your poor black counterparts than you think, and we elitist libs have more in common with our Larry Craig country club counterparts than we like to admit.
Basically, though, Obama is good medicine for the entire country. We'll keep on playing the lib vs. conservative trope because it keeps the mouth breathers down - while y'all are busy watching the shiny things (Palin, Hockey Mom's, and culture wars, oh my!) we'll keep getting richer while you keep getting poorer. All we want out of life are two simple things, though:
- More people like us
- Fewer people like you

Towards this end, I really do think it'd be best to separate as a country - you all can have the counties that voted McCain, and we'll keep the municipalities that voted Obama. Fair?

328

Look assholes, I was probably voting Republican before some of you were born

 

IF you were voting Republican before I was born then you will not have to worry about voting for Palin again because you are already a octogenarian.

329 BTW does anyone think that photo-shop looks like that salmon is spawning McCain's head out its butt.

330 Carlos, fix the fucking clock or stfu.  Whoever the fuck you vote for can win in every election from Tuesday going forward and you're still a loser.  And a cocksucker.  By definition.

331 she doesnt know .....

that Africa is a Continent
the countries that make up North America
how to construct grammatically correct sentences

What leads you to believe that she doesn't know these things?

BTW, if you're gonna worry about grammar and such, how about you clean up you own act? You can start by learning the basic rules of written English. You know, punctuation, capitalization and so on.

332 No one should hire Nicole Wallace again.

333 Our President thinks there are 57 states in the union.

334 Towards this end, I really do think it'd be best to separate as a country - you all can have the counties that voted McCain, and we'll keep the municipalities that voted Obama. Fair?

We've had this discussion before:  Nothing could make us happier.  Just promise to not come running back to us when you fuck everything up in short order.  Because that's what you do with great proficiency; it defines you.

335 Quick:  is Australia a country or a continent?

Gotcha!

336

She scares the hell out of me,
her thinking is like steping right back to 1930.
I am convinced that the old guy lost votes due
to that her mind was even older than his.
Her speeches was even worst than the Iron Lady Mrs  Tatcher, she was also unable to touch the human souls.

Too.Fucking.Funny.

Well, at least you don't have to worry about being accused of being an elitist. That label requires an education.

337

But, is it true that she didn't know the signatories of NAFTA?  And, did she, really, not know that Africa is a "Continent?"

I'm staying out of the argument until I know the answers to these charges.

Is it true that Obama does not know the capital of the United States?

I think somebody needs to get to the bottom of that ASAP.

I'm saying it's true, just that the question is out there and needs to be answered.

338 It is low to make fun of me trying to discuss in Your language ... but, You are conservative, and don't like things or thoughts that differs from Yours. In my world different thinking is the ground for dialogue and learning.

My name is Anna-Lys and not ass-hole, I don't find it very polite to threat someone else as a toilette visitor ... that is IF I am not in a toilette ... is this the Ladies Room?   

Greeting from a non-socialist of Sweden

339 This is a little O/T but have heard several people who assume it is just a matter of time before they are laid off say that they are going to pick their next destination using the map and going to a red state that has been read for a long time.  Interesting, the dem WS types sell everything and move to Singapore and republicans decided to leave blue states and go to the ones that have been red.

340 "Towards this end, I really do think it'd be best to separate as a country - you all can have the counties that voted McCain, and we'll keep the municipalities that voted Obama. Fair?"

I'm buying.  You get the cubicles, the lakeview condos, and the quarterly statements in the mail.

We get the workers.

When the day of liberalism's hanging is upon us, the liberals will sell us the ropes.

341 re: Palin as bare-breasted Lady Liberty.

A nice idea but the breasts would need to be a few cup-sizes bigger to do proper justice to her magnificent bossom...

342

I don’t think these McCain staffers are going after Palin for ideological reasons or because they’re snotty Beltway insiders.  I think they’re just in “cover your ass” mode.  These are all political professionals that want to be hired for future campaigns. Palin is a convenient scapegoat because the media made mincemeat of her persona.   

RE: Sarah being a dunce.  Hardly.  I saw her in Asheville, NC and she’s smart as a whip.  However, I think the McCain campaign screwed up by not making sure she was really fluent on national and international issues before picking her. They should have known the media would be gunning for her since she’s not just a conservative but a woman too. There’s nothing the liberal media enjoys going after more than a female conservative or minority conservative (as someone said earlier, it’s the Clarence Thomas effect.)  I tend to be a big McCain apologist (his knowledge of economics sucks but I think he’s a very brave, decent man that loves our country – a far better pick than Obama) however I think one area where he was really weak was his naïveté about the media.  That is, McCain was apparently shocked that the media went after him and Palin so harshly while giving Obama and Biden a free pass.   

343 "In my world different thinking is the ground for dialogue and learning."

Yes, Sweden, that exemplar of political and demographic diversity.

It's always funny to hear the insulated make fun of the most multi-ethnic and intellectually diverse nation in the world.

344

Slublog I could never top your savaging of AnnaLys...could you deal with Walter now, please? All I can think of is calling him names.

345 Anybody who actually believes that she didn't know Africa is a continent is one stupid, gullible, retarded douchwaffle...

346 Her speeches was even worst than the Iron Lady Mrs  Tatcher, she was also unable to touch the human souls.

In fairness to this commie nitwit, English is not her first language. She's Swedish.

On a bright note, she seems to be a lesbian. Check out her site.

347 O/T:  The market IS reacting to the BO win.

348 I heard Sweden's trying to kick the ethnics out.  True?

I also heard Sweden's plea twenty years ago for Swedes to marry outside the gene pool has resulted in more, not less, blond hair.  True?

349 Wow I used to like Karl Cameron but lately he seems a little strange.  Now listening to this BS from him on Rush.  Well that seals the deal, Karl "your out".

350

I'm so pissed off about this. 

I support Palin 100%!!!!!

351 #315 justincase. Maybe you should change your name to NUTCASE. At some point you're going to have to accept the reality that a black man with a middle name hussein just kicked your ass. I wish I could be there to see the dawning of that realization.

352 Wow, if NW was picking out my clothes and they were frumpy, I'd go out and buy my own clothes too.

353 "Karl" is "Carl."

Don't insult Karl Rove.

354 I don't find it very polite to threat someone else as a toilette visitor ...

Treacher, is that you? It's gotta be. C'mon, 'fess up.

355 Take it easy, Anal-Lys, we're all friends here.

356 Palin is a gem -- a political force that will not be stopped by losers who can't seem to see that this will not benefit anyone, not them, not Palin, no one.

The shameful idiots give the MSM and Dems more fuel.

357 You are conservative, and don't like things or thoughts that differs from Yours. In my world different thinking is the ground for dialogue and learning.

In your world, you consider conservative thinking to be "frightening" and it reminds you of the '1930s'. You don't come here to learn, but to show off your hate and stupidity.

So spare me your self-loving tribute to your own wonderfully open mind. You're an ignorant bigot, nothing more.

358

Anna-Lys

 

If you truly are from Sweden and not just another liberal Obama troll come here to stir the pot, let me point out that an American conservative is vastly different from a European conservative.

 

The reason you are being savaged is that your comments are similar to what the liberal trolls post here.

359 #337 flenser................. Even if he doesn't know now, he'll soon find out because he'll be living in a big white house there. Unlike any republicans in the future. Suck it loser.

360 "OTOH, it would be nice to gaydopt a straight's kid and give 'em a better home, and totally convert them! Hopefully when the GM plant closes here I can get a Chevy driving car builder's kid - that would be super sweet! And why are all right wingers fat? That would be the upside of allowing me to gaydopt - no fatties allowed! No more junk food! Time for hot yoga and then a jog! Face it - we're healthier, smarter, wealthier, nicer and richer. You folks might be able to breed and have kids, but do you deserve them? All you bring to the table is a big ole spoonful of H-A-T-E!!!"

Am I the only one concerned with the NAMBLA type talk coming from this guy? He's clearly sociopathic and pathological, so I wouldn't dismiss everything he writes. Perhaps notifying the authorities isn't a bad idea. It might be all bloviating, but it's a pretty deranged little rant and I would be cautious about ignoring it.

361

I voted for Palin despite McCain being on her ticket.  I voted for the Constitution Party candidate (whoever he was) against Coleman and Franken, and for Bachmann to the House.

If one of your RINOs has a problem understanding that, please send him over.  I have a contribution to make.

362 #351.  Why try to re write the story.  Millions of people did not vote for him and they aren't about to just roll over and suddenly become supporters.  Color had nothing to do with it except if you were black then you voted based on color (95% of blacks voted for him) otherwise people had significant reasons for not drinking the kool aid and getting on the gravy train.

363 Suck it loser.

For the party of intellectuals, the left seems to be overrun with ten years old smart-assed boys who badly needs a good spanking. Like Carlos.

364

FWIW--My email to Sarah Palin....

Dear Governor Palin,   I want to thank you for your tireless efforts in promoting the conservative cause, and in your quest to drag a stumbling, bumbling campaign accross the finish line. I must tell you, and I am not alone in this, that had it not been for you I would have either voted third party for president or left it blank. I live in Illinois and it was going to go for Obama no matter what I did. Therefore, my presidential vote didn't really matter.   You being added to the ticket changed all that. For the first time since Ronald Reagan, there was a candidate that I could really whole-heartedly support. I did not vote for John McCain, although I respect the sacrifice and service that he gave to this country as a military man. I VOTED FOR YOU! They say that people do not vote for the bottom of the ticket in presidential elections--they are wrong. This year I and many others I know, voted strictly for the bottom of the ticket.   The press and far too many people in the GOP savaged you because you weren't a Washington insider. Both parties are full of people who want the country to be ran by such insiders. But most true conservatives are sick of that. People like you are who we want in leadership positions. You are one of the rising bright stars of the conservative movement, and I sincerely hope you continue on that path.   I beseech you. Do not quit on us. We need your type of leadership. Only you and people like Bobby Jindal can lead us away from the socialist, nanny-state morass that will slowly eat away at this nation as it has many other countries around the world. We are still the greatest nation on earth, but I fear our ship is beginning to list terribly. Come back to us in four years, and we will set this country back on the right path. Joe the Plumber, Tito the Builder, myself and millions of other Americans reveled in your message and we await the rebirth of that message in 2012. Learn the lessons you need to learn to be our nation's leader, and let's take it back in four years!   God bless you and your lovely family, and give Piper and Trig both a tweak on the cheek for me.   PALIN/JINDAL 2012! Now there's change we can believe in!

365

Anna-lys, you are reporting what Swedish media have fed to you. You did not, because you can not, get the full range of American news in Swedish. If you want to discuss American affairs, then you must read American news in the English media.

Also, culturally most of us are not Scandinavians. Most of us are Germans, and most of our conservatives are Scots-Irish. We're more like Finns: heavily armed, independent, and suspicious of tyrants and Russians.

366

You are conservative, and don't like things or thoughts that differs from Yours. In my world different thinking is the ground for dialogue and learning.

So "dialogue" begins with a baseless accusations tossed at conservatives, unkind and petty "fears" expressed, "her thinking is like steping right back to 1930", this is the ground of your for "learning"?

Ok.  I learned everything I need to know.  And you can keep your world.

367 No offense Anna-Lys but if I came to some Swedish blog and started dumping on a politician that lots of commentors seemed to favor, I wouldn't expect to be treated nicely.  For somebody who seems to favor dialogue and learning, you jumped in with some pretty strong accusations, some of which are based on lack of knowledge.  I'm taking you at your word that you aren't being a troll on purpose and maybe you didn't mean to be as confrontational as you came off writing English.

368 I do not trust Palin haters...whether they are from the left or the right....I adore her, and as a mom to just one child, I hope someday my son would find a woman like her to share his life with....til then---she will continue to lead, and inspire the rights, and infuriate the lefts....woohoo!

369

I meant "English language", sorry.

Although, the English media actually wasn't too bad at reporting the American campaign. Certainly the Times was better than CBS, MSNBC etc.

370

#351 I don't doubt that Obama won the most votes. But you tell me: why doesn't he just authorize Hawaii to release his vault copy birth certificate? Why spend millions instead of just simply giving the public what we deserve?

Wanna know what he's basing his credibility on? FactCheck.org.

I e-mailed FactCheck.org 4 times giving them the documentation that their IL BAIPA article was dead wrong. They don't care.

Do you trust our Constitution to Factcheck.org? We've got a very powerful Supreme Court that is supposed to make sure the Consitution is followed. Obama is a Constitutional scholar from Harvard who is asking us to turn that job over to Factcheck.org. Now tell me who's gullible.

371 Sorry that reads like all one paragraph. That's not how I sent it. Didn't check it before posting.

372 And no Swede gets to compare our politicians to Hitler. Ever. The Swedes armed and supported the Nazis to an extent that even Franco didn't.

373 This describes Obama's America so perfectly.

Indianapolis - Lines were long and tempers flared Wednesday not to vote but to get paid for canvassing for Barack Obama. Several hundred people are still waiting to get their pay for last-minute campaigning. Police were called to the Obama campaign office on North Meridian Street downtown to control the crowd.

The line was long and the crowd was angry at times.

"I want my money today! It's my money. I want it right now!" yelled one former campaign worker.

A former spokesman for the Obama campaign said 375 people were hired as part of the Vote Corps program and said people signed up to work three-hour shifts at a time. Three hours of canvassing got workers a $30 pre-paid Visa card.

I suspect many laws were broken in this scheme as well, but nobody cares about that when the The Grand High Exalted One is doing it.

374 Face it - we're healthier, smarter, wealthier, nicer and richer. Posted by: Elitist Lib at November 06, 2008 01:02 PM (fdXAd)

Obviously, not.

If it were true, the gay community would not have the highest incidence of HIV and Hepatitis. We have known how to prevent it's transmission for over 26 years. How dumb can you be? So, you are neither healthier, smarter, wealthier/richer (those drugs aren't cheap), and definitely not nicer.

375 Hey, about that picture,  could you crop the "Old Guy" out, I would rather see the dead fish.


RSR 12

376 Sarah Palin was the hot chick that got McCain past the bouncer into the club. Unfortunately, McCain couldn’t dance.

377 What's up with the rumors that KR worked the BO campaign?   Often wondered throughout the campaign why they had fits and starts.  They would do something that was brilliant and then shoot themselves in the foot.  wonder who was responsible for teh brilliance and who tried to keep them down.

It is possible that this is generated by the dems so that people will fixate on the other team and not watch their planning strategy meetings.

378 Considering that the chief failing of the Bush Administration has been in the realm of communication, it makes little sense to hire a tone-deaf idiot like Nicole Wallace in the first place. 

If she was the genius behind Bush's horrific PR operation for the second term, she's a moron and should not be listened to.  Hiring her would be like hiring a pilot because they've managed to walk away from every crash landing they've caused.

379 A former spokesman for the Obama campaign said 375 people were hired as part of the Vote Corps program and said people signed up to work three-hour shifts at a time. Three hours of canvassing got workers a $30 pre-paid Visa card.

Think they were verifying the names and addresses of the people they pay?

380

Everytime I donated to McCain, in the box wher it asked who referred me so they could thank them, I put Sarah Palin.

I voted for Sarah, not the "old" guy. 

381

The campaign staffers are looking for someone to blame, because they know the real blame lies solidly with THEM.  They're also really pissed off that the little lady from Backwater, Alaska dared to question their orders.  They all thought they were the next Karl Rove, and they can't stand it that they're wrong.  In short, the problem is that the campaign became more about the egos of the staffers than it was about the candidates.  Bad mojo.  (And it trickled down to the local campaigns, too---and they didn't like it when I told them they were screwing it up, either.)

Sarah Palin he has more energy in her little finger and more IDEAS in her head than the entire RNC campaign staff combined.  More to the point, she was the embodiment of grace under fire.  While I agree that she could have done better in some of the interviews, I think that it was because she was trying to follow marching orders from the campaign.  (Ditto Mav, for that matter.)  Left alone to be herself and answer from her heart, her head and her gut, she would have fared much better.

But with this personal attack crap from every corner?  She's as rock solid as they come.  She did better than Hillary.

382 Palin/Jindal 2012 - will kick everyone's ass back to China

383 Wonder if people are checking their credit card statements and finding out that they donated to BO and calling the company and saying "please take off the charge, I didn't authorize that donation at all".   If that is happening a lot, is their campaign losing money.  Could that explain why they don't have those VISA cards to give out?

384 The "real" Palin helped energize the conservative base, true.

BUT: the "media version" of Palin did not help McCain at all, and I think turned a lot of centrists against McCain.

The media is certainly at fault here, but the McCain campaign's incompetence, Palin's inexperience at a national level, and a total misunderestimation of the media's viciousness certainly didn't help.

385 Anna-Lys,

I don't think the comment suggesting you are uneducated  was making fun of the grammatical errors in your post, which clearly indicate English is your second language.  Rather, the opinion you expressed shows that your lack of insight:

"her thinking is like steping right back to 1930."

- Please provide one quote from something she has said to substantiate this accusation.  Also, please take a long hard look at the symbology of the Obama campaign and see if any of that rings a bell.

"Her speeches was even worst than the Iron Lady Mrs  Tatcher, she was also unable to touch the human souls."

- First, if you are implying that a comparison to Margaret Thatcher is a negative, your opinion is quickly losing credibility.

- Second, please back up this statement about being unable to touch human souls with a personal account from the rally or talk you attended that formed this opinion.  I attended a rally and her policy talk on special needs children, and I can assure you she touched the souls of everyone in attendance.

It is not my intention to make fun of you, I  simply think you are wrong.

386 OT:  this congressman that BO asked to be his chief of staff, what's his story.  Yesterday heard on the radio that he has to ask his wife (if she want him to tuin his career totally by being a part of the administration or she just wants to let him stay where he is and continue his nice career) and think about his career.

387

"her thinking is like steping right back to 1930."

Quite the opposite.  Palin is even more femnist than the 70's activists is that she demonstrates that a woman can be powerful and professional while being feminine, Godly and committed to her husband and children.

388

I finally watched the youtube clip of the Fox report on this.. I dont' buy that crap for a second. "She thinks Africa is a country?" Come the fuck on already.

TV news guy, so hot to report the juicy new gossip. Dickhead.

389

Posted by: Pauline at November 06, 2008 11:34 AM (kYRcs)

You're a lying bitch.

390 Unfortunately, the republican leadership is too old, gutless and brain dead to realize that a complete generational change is needed. They will continue to do the same thing over and over, expecting a different result.

391 Hey, the swede ripped off Innocent Bystanders!

392 And by generational change, I mean bringing along actual conservatives; you know, the ones who actually win elections.

393

80% of votes thought the country was headed in the wrong direction. There was little McCain could do (although he could have done…something) 

The GOP fuck-up goes back years folks. In 2002 the voters turned over the government to the GOP. What did they do with it? They road their post-9/11 wave and that was it. Gutless assholes.

 

Thank you CJ!  Let’s put to rest the canard that McCain would’ve won if he’d just “fought harder” – i.e., called out Obama as the crooked Chicago pol. Marxist that he is.  Let’s look at the actual data:

The scorched earth strategy may have brought more of the Republican base out but I don’t think it would’ve persuaded a significant number of independents or Democrats to vote for McCain.  (I say this because Dems and Independents swallowed the pro-Obama/anti-Republican media bias for two years straight.  As such, they were likely to interpret McCain attacks on Obama as “dirty Rovian tactics.”  This is borne out by the fact that McCain’s Ayers attacks never hurt Obama in the polls.) The key then to testing this hypothesis is looking at states Bush won but McCain lost.  Realistically, I’d say such a strategy may have flipped states where McCain lost by 5% or less of the vote.  He lost NC and Indiana by 1%.  That’s 26 electoral votes.  He lost Florida by 2%, VA by 5% and Ohio by 4%.  That’s another 60 electoral votes, putting his total electoral count up to 249.  Close but no cigar of 270 electoral votes.  The other states he lost by much larger numbers (Iowa by 9 pts, Colorado by 7 pts, New Mexico by 15 pts and Nevada by 12 pts.)  So McCain didn’t just lose those states solely because the Republican base failed to come out and support him. One other reason he lost Iowa is because he opposes ethanol subsidies.  One other reason he lost Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada is because the Hispanic vote has rejected the Republican Party after supporting Bush in 2000 and 2004.  So there was no way McCain could’ve won if he simply appealed more strongly to the base.  If the base showed up like it did in 2004, they could’ve ensured Obama didn’t have a mandate.  But they alone would not have been enough to swing the election McCain’s way.  (Note: I’m assuming that a scorched earth strategy would only have an upside.  I.e., McCain wouldn’t lose any voters.)  It seems like most of you don’t believe me but it’s a fact:

Even if McCain fought harder he would not have won this election. 

Moreover, the Republican Party needs to grow if it wants to win.

394 It gets worse! WickedPinto is over there trying to break the bitch!

395 WTF?  All of a sudden the media is trying to cover their butts?  Now they say they don't know who BO is?  rush is right to play the clips but really this is "too little, way way too late".  

The first thing this guy does is institute the fairness doctrine so he can satisfy his personal vendetta against Hannity.    I'm not a Hannity fan but his preoccupation  with Hannity was plain scary.

396

Ditto to what Gabe said. As a 43 yr old wife and mother, I can't imagine WHY Palin would deign to put her family through another national election. I would just say a big "screw you!", who could blame her? I think truly, that we all know it would have been a true blood bath without her. Only time will tell if she could overcome the injuries that she has sustained for a national campaign. 2012 might be too soon, we'll see.

Right now I want to know more about Paul Ryan and Thaddeus G McCotter  "Now, Seize Freedom"

397 WickedPinto is over there trying to break the bitch!---


where?

398 Somebody asked this earlier, exit poll data on how much Palin helped McCain. I saw this yesterday ... Palin got McCain extra 16% of vote, I believe I saw that at NRO.

399 Late again, just weighing in.

My entire family was going off the reservation until Palin was selected.  When she gave her speech, Great Grandpa, Grandpa, Dad,kids, all of us started jumping up and cheering.  Then came the birthday gifts. Alaska hats, pins and flags (my campaign sign flying high above my house).

My dad (Great Grandpa) is a Buckley conservative.  He can't stand McCain after spending 22 years in AZ ....and then Sarah came along. 

Yep.  High School clique going on the rampage.  What a bunch of effete, elitist snot noses.

400 Found this at Dawn Eden, real reason the Left hates her?


  Before Pope Benedict came to America to celebrate Mass in New York and Washington, it was revealed that as a young boy in Germany he had had a cousin with Down Syndrome. One day a Nazi doctor came and claimed his cousin for the Third Reich. Taken to be “cared for” at the “hospital” young Joseph Ratzinger never saw his cousin again: one of the host of “useless eaters” marked for extermination by that brutal regime.My wife and I operate St. Joseph’s House, a daycare and respite care home for handicapped children. As it happened one of the children we care for, a wheelchair bound young lady, was chosen along with three other handicapped folks to carry the gifts up to the altar before the consecration at the Mass at Nationals Stadium in Washington D.C. on April 17, 2008. One of these was James, a 30ish man who works in the Officer’s Club at Andrews AFB.  James has Down Syndrome. He was chosen to carry the large host which would become the Body of Christ lifted up before the assembled. As James with great ceremony advanced toward the Pope, his native enthusi­asm overcame his reserve and he started to run. Simultaneously the Holy Father leapt from his chair and walked towards James with his arms out­stretched. We have a picture of this moment which I cannot look at without tearing up. What did he see as he gazed so lovingly at James?  I believe he saw his cousin. I believe he saw the face of Jesus. And I believe that his great prayer as he elevated that host on that impossibly beautiful day was “As long as you did to these the least of my brethren, you did it to Me. The next day April 18th, a boy was born to of all people, the Gover­nor of Alaska. They named him Trig.

401

THANK YOU, SARAH!! 

She was the reason why, for the first time in a long time, I actually voted FOR someone. 

And, thank you, Gabe, for posting that picture of her.  That particular one (just her, not w/the old guy) is my favorite.  There's just something about that face, the way she's dressed, what she's doing--you know, REAL.

 

402 "her thinking is like steping right back to 1930."

Quite the opposite.  Palin is even more femnist than the 70's activists is that she demonstrates that a woman can be powerful and professional while being feminine, Godly and committed to her husband and children.

Posted by: katya at November 06, 2008 02:07 PM

That's right, Katya! That's exactly right!

403 The named him Trig because he is the "trigger" for all the world to see that human life, all human life is sacred.

404

Posted by: Rob at November 06, 2008 12:13 PM (/Zcox)

Here!  Here!  I second the motion.

405 Oh yeah, and that Cameron dude?  Saw him on O'Reilly last night and he was as  breathless and giddy as a 14 year old girl reporting on the latest boyfriend/girlfriend break up.   OOOOOhhh!.  OOOOhhh! 

406

Biden makes Palin look like a genius ...

-----------------------

Biden makes Dan Quayle look like a genius.  An anon. soucre says Dan called up Joe and thanked him for taking the crown of "biggest idiot" away from him.

Posted by: RW2@msn.com at November 06, 2008 12:17 PM (B/Y39)

Biden makes a tree stump look like a genius.

407 Africa is not visible from Alaska....hence Governor Palin's confusion.

408

I LOVE Sarah Palin. She lit up the entire election. She is the brightest shiniest sword in the conservative armory. The GOP should do nothing but polish and hone her for a return to battle.

I look forward to every glimpse of her I get. And I look forward to her becoming the first female POTUS.

409 Someone asked me before why I went towards Sarah.  well, I just realized it myself.  I was posting on a Yahoo stock board discussing the market, our charts, our stock.  They announced Palin and politics began creeping in.  suddenly we were overwhelmed by posters saying the most horrific  things about the woman.  Really , really horrific stuff.  My immediate reaction was to look her up, size her up and then set about defending her.   I defended her for hours that day.   I was horrified by the comments.   I remember explaining over and over about the fact that "a women's right to choose means she can choose life"

410 Considering that the chief failing of the Bush Administration has been in the realm of communication, it makes little sense to hire a tone-deaf idiot like Nicole Wallace in the first place.  If she was the genius behind Bush's horrific PR operation for the second term, she's a moron and should not be listened to.  Hiring her would be like hiring a pilot because they've managed to walk away from every crash landing they've caused.--Posted by: Darren

ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON!

Reflecting back to the years of TX Gov. Bush, it was Bob Bullock who faced the media and communicated with Texans on televised news and interviewed for local papers. When did Bush ever display great communicative skills? We've all learned the sad lesson that taking the high road of 'no comment' to snide attacks dissolves one's persuasive ability. As with Bush, so with McCain in that neither are great communicators, and both exercise progressive "compassionate" RINO socialism. Bush abused the core base of the Republican party, just as McCain does. Nicole Wallace carries a plague in the GOP and is best banished from any proximity to leadership.

411 We were told that the $150K in clothing will go to charity. I'm waiting.

412 Billy Ray, Why are you astroturfing? Why can't you enjoy your hope and change that the messiah has to offer you in the future... It's over... You don't have smear anyone more... You won the race, Now enjoy 4 years of perfection.

Stop being so miserably...

413 Billy is not visible from Ray. Hence the buffoon's confusion.

414

Posted by: road wrrior at November 06, 2008 12:30 PM (B/Y39)

I hear Nicole Wallace keeps a pair of kneepads in her pockbook for "Just in case...".

415 All we want out of life are two simple things, though:
- More people like us
- Fewer people like you

Hey, get back to me and tell me how all that abortion, sterilization and anal sex work out for you as far as that "more people like us" plan goes. We've got the Catholics and Mormons, so you don't even want to try and fight that war.

416 * You don't have to smear anyone anymore...

417 Oreilly is nothing but a bold fresh stinking pile of dog shit.  Always has been.  How can so many think that this age spot is anything more than a celeb chasing, gossip telling phony?  WTF? He never brought any 'factual' damaging stories onto the show.  Because that's what it is -A SHOW.  Faux stopped doing news years ago.  O'dipshit said last week-"Obama is out there with his policy, he says what he's gonna do, no secrets".  Bullshit. I tuned in after a year to hear that?  Fuck me!

418 Obama paid $690,000 for lighting and sound for one speech in Berlin and another 10 grand for a Euro Limo


Fuck off Billy.

419 If only Republicans in Congress defended their own as vehemently as people here do.

Heh. If only Republicans attacked Democrats as vehemently as they attack other Republicans.

420 I'd like to suggest an e-mail campaign directed at Fox News....

They used to really be about as "fair and balanced" as is possible given the environment. Now, for whatever reason they appear to be joining the rest of the MSM.

Let's all email them with our outrage and threaten...then actually not watch them....if they continue on their new path.

I've already sent my mail to O'Reilly and two other divisions in Fox.

Totally Pissed off Nam Vet!!!

421 www.foxnews.com/politics

422

McCain lost because he is not a real conservative republican.  He is most famous (politically) for sticking it to his own party in a list of decisions too long to enumerate here.

The bailout was the game-changer and he whiffed.  Had he and other R's stood their ground after the first vote and demanded a piece-meal set of clean measures, he could have cemented the presideny and also turned the tide for R's down ticket.  Instead he and other R's reflexively saw Washington as the answer, regardless of how much they "hated" the answer.  If he couldn't find a way to oppose the POS they passed, he isn't really a leader.  Polls show 56% of voters were not in favor of the bailout...and that number is after we've been told relentlessly it was absolutely necessary.  Imagine how high it would have been if a leader had stood up and framed the options properly.  Of course, to do that you have to believe government is not the answer. 

423 Heres what gets me about all of it. WE morons can clearly see what is going on. We see where the fight needs to take place. For christ sakes theres video of these dem turds saying there's nothing wrong Fannie and Freddie, yet they dont bother to bring it up and hammer these punkass fucks with that information. Time and freaking time again, they do this shit. It seems to me after this election, that they are doing it on purpose. Their job is NOT to win elections, but to put up a front, offer a target dummy, while we get turned into a socialist nation. There's no way, that WE see it and they don't. I don't believe it for a minute. I think we're all getting hosed here, and I really think things are gonna get ugly.

424

The reason that Fox News is doing this is to make up to Obama.  They want to get in to the Inaugural Ball.

Does anyone truly think that Palin is dumb?  I absolutely do not. Carl Cameron is just a dweeb who is trying to score points.

425

Republicans in Congress spent like drunken sailors at a Bacchanalia. 

I have already made a decision to not vote for any candidate who signed the bail out bill.  Luckily for me, my reps did not, but my Senators did.

If we don't yank the Party back now, then it needs to go bye bye and we need a new Party. 

 

426 It's all been said by now: I support Sarah Palin. She was the only reason I contributed to the campaign, put up signs and supported the ticket. I voted for her.

427 WickedPinto is over there trying to break the bitch!--- where?

Click on her name and go to her blog.

428

Seriously?  It's one thing to be prepared to deal with the media or your opponent - one could argue that her preparation for that one way or the other.  But should she really have been expected to prepare to be stabbed in the back by her own staff??

I thought the McCain campaign was about honor and all that crap.

 

Of course McCain's camp shouldn't be throwing her under the bus, but had Sarah gone out in those first media events and knocked everyone's socks off like she COULD have, these bastards' comments would simply be dismissed out of hand.

429 Most of the attacks on Palin are related to moderate RINO hacks job hunting with the PRESSSSSident and other left leaning organizations. 

It's like a rite of gang initiation.  The PRESSSSident is looking to cozy back up with McCain as the GOP representative to the PRESSSident, hence the need to take out any potential competitors. 

430

(3) Folks aren't quite ready to admit that McCain bears ultimate responsibility for the shitty race he ran.

 

McCain bears ultimate responsibility for being a craptastic republican.  McCain-Feingold?  Shamnesty?  Gang of 14?  He spent more time in the senate, crossing the aisle, than he did pushing conservative issues.  At best he's "democrat-lite"....and failed to motivate the conservative base...which guaranteed that the base would not give him their support.

 

Hopefully this will kill, forever, the idea that conservatives have to chase the democrats further and further to the left.  The conservative tent is plenty big enough, as has been proven in the recent past.  It's time Washington republicans realize that.

431 God bless you Sarah.
May you prosper.

432

+1 Gabriel.

Go Sarah!

433 As a Democrat (and a woman) who supported McCain/Palin this election, I support Sarah wholly and am mystified by this backlash. Palin was the best thing that could have happened to the GOP and probably one reason why the GE debacle was not an even bigger loss. Let's face it, a lot of Americans have had it with the Republicans, whether you agree with them or not--otherwise they wouldn't have handed the country over to the empty-suit snake-oil salesman and his America-hating wife who are about to occupy the White House. I'm no happier about that awful fact than you are, but it isn't her fault. (Also, I am reading that GOP turnout was much lower this year than in past elections. Oy vey guys!!)

434 What is there to be mystified about? She is dumb. Bush is dumb. We need to select smart people who know how to figure out the complex problems we have. Please, people, get some clues.

435

Sarah brought the crowds. I will forever be grateful to her for putting up with such crap from the media and the elite.

She rocks!

436 What is there to be mystified about? She is dumb. Bush is dumb. We need to select smart people who know how to figure out the complex problems we have. Please, people, get some clues.

My word, man.

If someone doesn't recruit you to run a national level campaign with your gift for piercing insight and dazzling rhetorical skills, America will suffer as a result.

Mark my words.

437 Eisenhower, Bush I, Ford, Romney, Powell, Ron Paul..... these guys are intellects and have class. Stupidity is NOT a virtue. Down home is OK to have a beer with, but not to run this amazing country.

438

Great. Now we have conservatives buying into the media portrayal of conservatives as morons. Neat. Look, I don’t know what Palin’s IQ is, but I’m pretty sure it’s above average. Maybe not by far, but that still makes her more intelligent that many of the people who call her a moron. Bush's IQ is certainly above average. Nancy Pelosi, on the other hand? I think she has an IQ somewhere near room temperature. But does she ever have to put up with being labeled a moron? Not by the media. It’s bad enough the media does this to us, let’s not do it to ourselves.

439

Even if McCain fought harder he would not have won this election.  Moreover, the Republican Party needs to grow if it wants to winPosted by: Tversky at November 06, 2008 02:17 PM (NVJWK)

To be clear, Tversky, I don’t think the GOP needs to “grow” by being Democrat-lite. It needs to take a stand on every issue – education, health care, race relations, etc….a conservative stand, for sure, but it has to have a POSITION.

 

The extremist associations of Obama were valid topics, it’s just that the Right should have been exposing them years ago, and not wait until the heat of an election where it sounds desperate.

 

440 Good grief Walter.  There’s no evidence that Governor Palin is dumb.  She wasn’t as knowledgeable as she should have been on some national and international matters.  But that’s hardly the same thing as being dumb.  There’s nothing to stop her from learning those things.  But what she has going for her, her political charisma, cannot be learned. She’s a gem with a lot of potential. 

Interestingly, none of the men you listed have an iota of Governor Palin’s charisma.

441

So 40% of Hispanic voters support tighter border control. I don’t want to change to attract more Hispanics, or blacks. I want to convince them to come to us.

 

Me too!  But we’ve got to make the effort to persuade them.  I don’t see that happening at all. 

Hell, I don’t think the GOP is doing nearly enough to reach out to Hispanic or Black voters.  Many of them tend to be pretty socially conservative. 

So I agree with you.  However, the GOP needs to be a lot smarter about debating these culturally sensitive issues.  Like it or not, we live in an age of political correctness.  (This election proves that.) The GOP makes it very easy for the Dems and the liberal press to paint them as racists, xenophobes, homophobes, etc.  With respect to immigration reform: Too many of the people out front railing against it relied solely on hyperbole, emotion-filled invective and value based arguments.  I heard anti-immigration reform spokespeople claim all illegals are criminals and disease carriers.  How the hell did they think that was going to fly with your average Hispanic voter?  I think it’s best to use logic, reason and empirical data when you’re dealing with a subject like that.  That’s not likely to stir up the passions of the base but it’ll persuade people outside the base.   I say that because reading some of the stuff David Frum wrote about it was what changed my opinion.  Not the rantings of Tancredo and Lou Dobbs.   

 

442

One other reason he lost Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada is because the Hispanic vote has rejected the Republican Party after supporting Bush in 2000 and 2004.  So there was no way McCain could’ve won if he simply appealed more strongly to the base. 

 

So 40% of Hispanic voters support tighter border control. I don’t want to change to attract more Hispanics, or blacks. I want to convince them to come to us.

 

443 Om Ni hade varit tillräckligt smarta kunde Ni lätt ha kontrollerat om jag verkligen var en svenska eller inte, genom att se i Er sitemeter varifrån denna trevliga tjej kommer.


Yes, I am Swedish :-)
No I don't listen to Swedish news I check my sources
Did Wickedpinto ripe me "the Bitsch off"? LOL
Some people ripe themselves off.

Even on blogs You seem to think that fight, terror and war is the best solutions to solve problems with ... so does Palin. No matter if it is animals in Alaska or American sons and daughters in Iraq ... I find the later being a mass suicidal action.

Take care good Americans!!!

PS Don't forget where You have Your ancestors and cousins and show that distant family of Your some respect DS

Proud European
Anna-Lys



 

444 To my friend Dave from Texas

Is this really Your new blog community?

(( hug ))

445 Anecdotal and all, but I was going to throw a protest vote to Barr until Palin joined the fight.

446

Posted by: Walter at November 06, 2008 04:01 PM (zBD8N)

Ron Paul?  That explains everything about you.

447 I have completely forgotten to say;

Good Luck American friends
and I hope You get jobs, keep your homes
and stay alive without more wars!!!

<3

448

We've had an incurious Evangelical in the White House for 8 years.

I say: Get to the back of the bus.

Thank God MY God Beat HER God.

Prayer really does work!

449

"We don't need your fucking Nazi-supporting luck or your friendship.  I'll keep my home on my own ability.  If we stop fighting wars, it's you lame assholes who will die first.  By the bear near your door or the fanatical murderers you've let into your country.

You people need to learn to breed again or you are gone in a generation.  I won't miss you assholes.

Posted by: TomJW at November 06, 2008 04:32 PM (xRCpL)"

TJ when You are a little older than 20

You will both express Yourself better, and understand some history, so don't be sad kid. When that happens You might not want to kill me any more just because I am a Swede, and not coloured like You.

450

Posted by: Anna-Lys at November 06, 2008 04:25 PM (nDI0F)

We don't need your fucking Nazi-supporting luck or your friendship.  I'll keep my home on my own ability.  If we stop fighting wars, it's you lame assholes who will die first.  By the bear near your door or the fanatical murderers you've let into your country.

You people need to learn to breed again or you are gone in a generation.  I won't miss you assholes.

451

Did a little state-by-state analysis of the election. Even though President Bush's approval ratings were low during the 2004 election, he received more votes than Sen McCain in 43 of the 50 states and DC. Sen McCain received a total of about 5,500,000 fewer votes than President Bush.

In the key states that President Bush carried and Sen McCain lost, Colorado, Florida,  Indiana, Ohio, North Carolina, and Virginia (worth 95 Electoral votes) only in North Carolina did Sen McCain get more votes than President Bush. This would not have been fatal if Democrat voting declined as well. Unfortunately, in each of these states (with the exception of Ohio) Sen Obama got far more votes than Sen Kerry did in 2004. In the case of Florida and North Carolina, Sen Obama got over 500,000 more votes each than Sen Kerry.

Bottom line: the conservative base, even with Gov Palin on the ticket, did not come out in support of Sen McCain. The conservative base wants a conservative as their candidate, not a moderate.

452

To be clear, Tversky, I don’t think the GOP needs to “grow” by being Democrat-lite. It needs to take a stand on every issue – education, health care, race relations, etc….a conservative stand, for sure, but it has to have a POSITION

I don’t think the GOP should become Democrat-lite either CJ.  But I guess it depends on what you mean by Democrat-lite.   It seems like the Republican base is becoming more rigid about what qualifies as a real Republican (e.g., McCain is a RINO, Romney is a RINO, Guiliani is a RINO, Crist is a RINO, Pawlenty is a RINO, hell, Ronald Wilson Reagan was a RINO by these standards since he supported amnesty, raised taxes and appointed moderates to the Supreme Court).   

I agree that the GOP should take a conservative position on every issue.  But it’s unreasonable to expect legislators to never veer away from conservative ideals once in a while. For example, I don’t understand punishing a Republican legislator for voting for the bailout.  I’m sorry but it was a credit risk emergency threatening to meltdown our entire financial industry.  My problem with the bailout was the hard sell Bush did.  He basically said “Make Paulson King or the world will end tomorrow.”  I think Congress should have taken a few more days to ensure this was the smartest plan.  However, Paulson was adamantly against that.  He said “my way or the highway.”  I’m sorry but I can’t fault Congress in that situation.  Their backs were against the wall.  Anyway, I digress.  I think the bailout situation was truly unique because banks are so inter-twined (they are one another’s customers) and the biggest engine (as a capital source) of the rest of our economy that the systematic risk associated with doing nothing was enormous.  However, I am completely opposed to this upcoming Auto Industry bailout.  Letting them go under will affect many businesses, lead to job losses and likely devastate Detriot (if not the state of Michigan) but the risk is more isolated.  (Those of you that are upset about the bailout need to get on the ball and start calling your Congressmen over the Auto Industry Bailout.  It’s a much bigger violation of conservative principles than voting for the financial markets bailout.)

 

453 I truly believe Sarah Palin is a reincarnation of Queen Esther of the Bible and will ultimately lead us all to the Rapture. She's one of the most intelligent people I've ever heard speak and could no doubt wrestle an alligator or a moose to submission with little effort. In Jesus' name I pray that Sarah be delivered from the haters and the blasphemers under Obama's spell.

454 I heard Sarah's IQ has been measured at 150. Anyone else know that? She's a borderline genius.

455 Can you remove that old guy from the poster?  He's blocking my view of the fish.

456 Nothing makes me happier than seeing a bunch of Republicans talk about getting Sarah Palin to run in 2012. That guarantees four more years of Obama!

#288, I assume you mean the Dow or the DJI? Never seen anyone call it the DOW before...

457

^{_{Are you smarter than a fifth grader??SARAH"THE GRIFTER "PALIN ISNT!!}}

^{_{Did you know africa was a continent?SMARTER THAN SARAH!}}

^{_{Did you know what countries were in N.a.f.t.a.?SMARTER THAN SARAH!!}}

^{_{Did you know fruitflys were important??SMARTER THAN SARAH!!}}

^{_{Did you know people under the age of 30 dont care about abortion ,gays or the color of peoples skins??KISS YOUR PARTY BYE BYE!!}}

458

Sarah Palin added new life and vigor to a campaign that was stale as old bread and slower than a Model A at the Indy 500. Had Governor Palin not been on the ticket with Senator McCain the Republicans would have suffered the worst loss ever and lost more states and congressional seats period.  Governor Palin was the bright spot in the campaign no question about. Conservatives should tip their hats in honor of her courage and dedicated hard work and the morons that were running the campaign need to apologize to the conservative base for their high school commentsand get a life.

459

^{_{Are you smarter than a fifth grader??SARAH"THE GRIFTER "PALIN ISNT!!}}

^{_{Did you know africa was a continent?SMARTER THAN SARAH!}}

^{_{Did you know what countries were in N.a.f.t.a.?SMARTER THAN SARAH!!}}

^{_{Did you know fruitflys were important??SMARTER THAN SARAH!!}}

^{_{Did you know people under the age of 30 dont care about abortion ,gays or the color of peoples skins??KISS YOUR PARTY BYE BYE!!}}

460 Why do you guys like Palin and not McCain?  It's not rational.  She was for the Bridge To Nowhere.  FOR THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE.  She upped the amount of money the oil companies paid to Alaskans, which is "redistribution of wealth", is it not? She put Wasilla in debt with a sports stadium.  She didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was.  She's a dunce and she's not even a fiscal conservative.

Stop saying "she can learn".  Maybe she could learn to do surgery, too.  But me, if I'm sick I'll go to someone who is already qualified.  In a nation of 300 million, I think we can find some people who are actually qualified.

You guys need to stop listening to Shammity and Rush.

Even the Economist, a British conservative magazine, endoresed Obama.  Wake up!

461

Is this really Your new blog community?

New?  I've been commenting here for 5 years, and a contributor for almost 2.

Tip: Nazi-slurs really don't work well.  It's lazy thinking.

462 " Never seen anyone call it the DOW before..."

Interesting. It's quite common to hear it called that on business shows by market analysts.

463 If you folks think Palin should head the Republican Party, Democrats will thank you for a decade. You don't win elections by ceding the center. Yes, many posters here said they would have stayed home if she hadn't been on the ticket. But her presence alienated many moderates.

You don't gauge Palin's success by how many people she brought in;  you also have to consider how many people she drove away. If Republicans want any shot at being the majority party again, they're going to have to address the needs of the part of America that Palin doesn't even consider to be "real." Because right now, the only people she's talking to are a substantial minority of Americans.

464 "Did you know fruitflys were important??SMARTER THAN SARAH!!"

Did you know fruitflys is actually spelled fruit flies? YOU'RE NOT SMARTER THAN SARAH!!!!

465 Regarding your belief Sarah Palin is the reincarnation of Queen Esther, Josiah: Christians don't ascribe to reincarnation--with the noted exception of General George Patton, a devout Christian who also believed he had been a soldier in previous lives. No one argued the point with him. And I agree with your contention Sarah Palin could wrestle alligators and moose. I would, of course, pay top dollar for the tickets to watch such an event and would insist the contests be undertaken in mud--or jello, or chocolate pudding. I agree, too, she is an amazingly intelligent woman. I admit to stopping short when I saw you had actually invoked the Lord's name for a faux blessing. Clearly, you only know about Christianity second-hand. Using His name as a joke is serious business for us: very insulting and very hurtful. Equally clearly, you are not the kind of guy who would dare to insult Islam's prophet, Mohammed, are you? Hypocrite. Coward.

466

You are right. She is the most brillant politician I have ever seen. Her debate performance was masterful. Her grasp of the issues was comprehensive.

You go girl!

467 Just stay in denial, Andrew, and we are gonna lose again.

468 Dear god PLEASE let Sarah Palin be the new face of the GOP.  Throw every one of these "thinking" conservatives the hell OUT of the party, and rebuild with her as the foundation. 

469 Quote:

"I truly believe Sarah Palin is a reincarnation of Queen Esther of the Bible and will ultimately lead us all to the Rapture. She's one of the most intelligent people I've ever heard speak and could no doubt wrestle an alligator or a moose to submission with little effort. In Jesus' name I pray that Sarah be delivered from the haters and the blasphemers under Obama's spell."


Oh, happy days for the Democratic Party! With people just like you populating the Republican Party and believing Sarah Palin is the answer to your prayers and party, I can look forward to a Democratic majority for decades to come!

Thank you. Really, thank you.

470 Someone should start a campaign. I've seen it occasionally on lefty blogs and thought it silly, but given what Gov. Palin is being put through, I think it might mean something to her.

Someone could put together an effort to send flowers with messages to her office/home/wherever. Something like "We reject the smear campaign against you."

Flowers don't seem to be her thing, though. A bit girly. We could send, I dunno, venison or something.

471 I'll personally mail her three aborted fetuses.

472 Jelly babies are not fetuses, no matter what Sully told you.

473 What is there to be mystified about? She is dumb. Bush is dumb. We need to select smart people who know how to figure out the complex problems we have.

I dunno Walter. I'd be more interested in your opinions as to who is smart and who is dumb if you yourself showed a little more higher brain function than my pet rock.

Instead of this "Duh ... we need smart people, smart people fix problems" crappola you keep offering.

474 I like these troll guys, these are funny guys.  Just kill one of them

475 Why do you guys like Palin and not McCain?  It's not rational.  She was for the Bridge To Nowhere.  FOR THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE.

Wait, is the Democratic Party going to come out against earmarks now? Now that Obama steered that money to that hospital in return for it's giving his worthless wife a 300k/year job?

476 If Sara Palin told me the sky was red, and Obama told me the sky was blue, I'd wonder why the sky was red.

477 So you guys really don't care she knows very little about the world? That seems ignorant. We arent electing a pastor you know.

478 She's an idiot.

479 I still think that Palin was an inspired pick but exploited poorly by the campaign. 

The one aspect that they should have hammered relentlessly was that this Nobody from Nowhere, on the bottom half of the ticket, had more accomplishments and executive experience that the Top and Bottom of the Democratic ticket, combined.

The Obama camp knew it, that's why they pretty much ignored McCain for three weeks and turned their minions loose on the Cuda.

480

Face it, a Steve Palin with the exact same qualications, history, and family would not be treated so shittily.

 

True but a man with as little knowlege of foreign policy would never make it on the ticket as VP. Face it, she got picked because she was a woman and got some serious passes because of her gender. If you don't know Africa is not a country how the hell are you a national politician?

481 She's an idiot.

Heh.

482 With respect to immigration reform: Too many of the people out front railing against it relied solely on hyperbole, emotion-filled invective and value based arguments.  I heard anti-immigration reform spokespeople claim all illegals are criminals and disease carriers.
 

Oh, bullshit Tversky . Complete and utter bullshit. If you need to make up stupid stories like that then you must be very short of facts.


I think it’s best to use logic, reason and empirical data when you’re dealing with a subject like that. 

You can say that, after writing the dishonest bullshit you just did? That's an almost moonnbattish ability to disconnect your brain from your mouth.

One other reason he lost Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada is because the Hispanic vote has rejected the Republican Party after supporting Bush in 2000 and 2004.

Hispanics did not support Bush in either 2000 or 2004. But you don't seem like the sort to let the truth get in your way.

483 I think the bailout situation was truly unique because banks are so inter-twined (they are one another’s customers) and the biggest engine (as a capital source) of the rest of our economy that the systematic risk associated with doing nothing was enormous.  However, I am completely opposed to this upcoming Auto Industry bailout.

I guess we now know what sector you work in and what sector you don't.

484 True but a man with as little knowlege of foreign policy would never make it on the ticket as VP.

Obama got picked and he made it as P with as little knowledge. Biden got picked as VP and he's been on the wrong side of every single foreign policy issue for the last forty years.

485 Biden got picked as VP and he's been on the wrong side of every single foreign policy issue for the last forty years.

Word.  The two unasked questions that haunted this campaign:  What has Obama ever accomplished in the face of adversity, and when was Biden every correct on a foreign policy issue?

486

Obama got picked and he made it as P with as little knowledge. Biden got picked as VP and he's been on the wrong side of every single foreign policy issue for the last forty years.

 

I think its pretty obious after the dabates when McCain couldnt even trip him up on foreign policy questions that he knew what he was talking about.

 

I think he was right on Iraq but I'm sure you disagree.

 

Answer this for me. How does a national politician not know what 3 countries are apart of NAFTA?

 

You guys are commiting suicide by sticking with her.

487 Please make Sarah "the grifter"palin the head of the republican party!!Shes great!really!Pretty Please!!!!!

488 Please make Sarah "the grifter"palin the head of the republican party!!Shes great!really!Pretty Please!!!!!

From your demented lips to God's ear, jean

489 McCain was about McCain just as Obama is about Obama. McCain represents nothing but personnal ambition and ego as does the Obama. Without principles or a clear vision who could rally to McCain except as the lesser of two evils? Obama is a gift to America. In two years everything will be far worse and he bears full responsibility. Let us see him ex0plain the disaster that is coming.

490 Sarah Palin is a genius! Not in the Rhodes Scholar sense, mind you, but in the refreshing new America sense. She didn't get turned upside down and separated from her pure christian morals by some froo froo northeastern ivy league college where they probably don't even drive snowmobiles. You blue state "intellectuals" and college graduates think that Africa is relevant? It's not! You hairy Yale feminists! Palin learned more about the constitution in one year as a sportscaster than Obama learned in all the years of running Harvard Law Review and teaching constitutional law at the "conservative" University of Chicago! I'm almost positive about that. U of Chicago is conservative?! Pppbbsstt!! U of Chicago used to be conservative, until Obama and his "homeslices" took over and instituted their secret Hate America agenda. Its just a matter of time before a bunch of rappers paint the white house black and hold anti-whitey parties. I saw a blog posting where Ludacris threatened this very thing.

Progressive tax scheme? What a bunch of Leninists! You know, Lenin was constantly jabbering on about nationalizing the rubber mines, and look where that got them - a bunch of shitty communist red rubber ducks and death death death. Ducks aren't even red people! They're yellow. But in Russia, the government says ducks are red, and if you try to say that they're yellow you get thrown in the gulag. How long before Obama insists that all ducks are "equally" red (and godless)? Just a bunch of identical communist red duck robots, each equal and identical. I found evidence here: www.flickr.com/photos/maxbisschop/118903742. God help us.

And Palin's constant recitals of gibberish about god, military and nationalism prove that she won't have any problem identifying enemies and properly smiting them. When was the last time that a vice presidential candidate announced in advance of election day that she was declaring war on a country (www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9LofMCa8A)? Chutzpah? I call that USA1 boldness. You won't hear Obama calling out Iran. What a weenie. While Obama was "organizing communities" or whatever, Sarah Palin twice boldly faced down the rearing head of communist Vladimir Putin. She saved our asses! Good thing he learned his lesson, or he would've been dressed like a moose that Palin shot. Ha! Obama is the moose! I don't even recognize Obama as my president. Where is the birth certificate, not to mention the videos of him picking his afro while screaching about whitey? (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/11/president-fraud.html). The socialist/communist/leninist manchurian candidate! Think about it: the only thing that socialism ever gave us was the Yugo, and just think of what a moose would do to a Yugo! It wouldn't even be close. A Hummer on the other hand, could totally take out a moose no problem (assuming the moose wasn't armed and had no opposable thumbs). When Obama isn't black powering around he's always talking about leninist-based overthrow of world governments. He moves between these two worlds seemlessly my friends. We must be vigilent, because most of the "real" Obama is beneath the surface, and all the MSM don't see it. So no matter how normal of a president, no matter how bipartisan he acts, no matter how generous and kind he seems, we must remain paranoid and freaked out that just beneath the surface he is probably satan.

491 I told you who is smart .... Romney, Bush I, Eisenhower .... men of stature ... men with class ... Palin was an embarrassment. Ron Paul was the only guy who called this economic meltdown ... he understands economics. Romney made millions. Bush I could put a sentence together.

Stop shooting ourselves in the foot with "feel good" politicians like Bush II or Palin. The problems out there are complex and we don't want to put out dolts as our leaders.

Stop and think for a moment. Don't just think with your emotions.

492

Obama is a gift to America. In two years everything will be far worse and he bears full responsibility.

Dream on.  The Dems and the MSM will blame Bush and the “Rethugs.”  The conservative base will do nothing to help because they care more about purging the ranks of the GOP of RINOs than fighting the Dems.  In the meantime, Pelosi, Reid and Obama will give amnesty to 40 million + illegal aliens and ensure the Dems will win the West for the next 50 years.  Face it.  Dumbass Republicans that stayed home rather than vote for McCain/Palin screwed the GOP and as a consequence. America itself.

493

Oh, bullshit Tversky . Complete and utter bullshit. If you need to make up stupid stories like that then you must be very short of facts.

Oh please flenser.  GMAFB.  Denying that the primary anti-immigration proponents in the MSM used emotion filled arguments is disingenuous at best.  Moreover, plenty of these folks both implied and outright stated that illegal aliens were responsible for higher crime rates in certain cities.  Don’t act like you’ve never heard that argument before.  As far as illegal aliens being disease ridden?  I distinctly remember Lou Dobbs (who I ended up liking later on) doing a story about illegal aliens bringing diseases into our country.  Did he say ALL illegal aliens are disease ridden?  No.  But the point is, those kind of arguments are bound to alienate Hispanic voters who’ve had to deal with enormous prejudice all their lives.    

Don’t you get it?  It doesn’t matter if 85% of the conservatives against immigration reform were relying on logical, reasonable arguments.  If those other 15% received a disproportionate amount of airtime on MSM news sources, then the impression that the GOP is full of xenophobes and racists was created.  Go ahead and insult me.  But I’m just the messenger.  I’m telling you what non-conservative, non-Rush Limbaugh listening individuals perceived about the immigration debate.  Hell, my own father, a lifelong conservative was distressed by what he was seeing in the news re: immigration reform.  His exact words were “The GOP is screwing up. This is going to backfire.” 

You can say that, after writing the dishonest bullshit you just did? That's an almost moonnbattish ability to disconnect your brain from your mouth.

There was nothing dishonest about what I wrote flenser. 

Hispanics did not support Bush in either 2000 or 2004. But you don't seem like the sort to let the truth get in your way.

Bush got a little less than half the Hispanic vote in 2004.  You can piss it away as nothing but it certainly helped him win those Western states.  Moreover, the loss of those votes hurt McCain.

494 I think he was right on Iraq but I'm sure you disagree.

Reality and history disagree. But who cares, right? Hope for change.

495 If Republicans ever want to be in the White House again, it would be best to dispense with the Palin fantasy as soon as possible. Palin, if she did survive the primaries (and it would be vicious) will NEVER be able to garner a majority vote. The Dems will run three ads: Couric interviews, Debater Palin winking and giving a shout-out to third-graders, and "Wasilla hillbillies loot Nieman Marcus from coast to coast." Fair or not that is what the public will remember. To win, a candidate has to be appealing to moderates and independents. And Palin will not be able to even get 40 percent of the women. Those who propose moving further to the right will end up taking the party into the wilderness. Jindal is the hope for the future. The Democrats hope that the GOP focus stays on Palin. She is history. Also, running on the themes of Reagan won't work. It played well in 1980 but an update is needed. And as this country turns from white to brown, a party that has no appeal to minorities is doomed.

496 What an island in de Nial.

You guys are totally out of it. Palin did cost McCain votes, look at any poll of her negatives.

She was 'executive' of marginally successful organizations that were vastly smaller the hugely successful Obama organization [the pop of Alaska is smaller than a medium-sized city in the US, and Wasilla, let's not even go to how trivial (and vindictive) that experience was].

She was totally incompetent in interviews and absolutely unavailable for press conferences -- a first in modern times. Yeah, yeah, sure, the MSM wouldn't have been sweet to her. Boo-hoo.

She has abused power in troopergate, Needless Markup, and travel arrangements for her family -- stealing from the people, or pursuing personal vendettas.

She's totally two-faced on earmarks, greedy and condemning at the same time. She pursued socialistic agendas against oil companies (to secure a big bit of pork to pass out to voters) while condemning corporate oversight elsewhere. She has pursued her agenda, and your votes, without principle.

She would not have been chosen as VP if she were not a woman, and if she hadn't been chosen none of you would even know who she is.

She is uninformed, ungrateful, unconnected, and oblivious to the diverse range of American needs and sentiment.

Send her back to the tundra and move on.

497 I clicked on this thread to add my thanks to Governor Palin.  I see, though, that it has turned into a Palin-bashing thread.  I really wish conservatives would stop that.  Do you really want 8 years of Obama?  Is Axelrod still paying you Astroturfers?

498 Face the facts: Palin was a complete farce as a candidate. She was completely unprepared and willfully ignorant about her own lack of knowledge. There is no sane person who can look at her and possibly believe she was remotely qualified to be vice president behind a 72 year old, 4-time cancer patient. "Country first?" Hardly.

499 Sarah Palin is going to rise above all of this.  In a couple years when this has blown over, the Republican party is going to be searching for a strong leader to supplant the illuminati democratic regime and Palin will be ready and waiting.

500 I'm sticking with Palin support for the near term.  After her second term as governor, she may decide that she isn't interested in further service and who could blame her.

That our opponents take time from their busy schedules to come here and tell us how Palin dooms our party is just a mark in her favor.

501

jamie Harding,

"Palin was a complete farce as a candidate."

As opposed to the pot-smoking, coke snorting, socialist, friend of terrorists, who attended a racist church for 20 years, who we don't even know if he is a US citizen, and who is out of the mainstream on all social issues: The majority of Americans do not want socialism, the majority of Americans do not support abortion, the majority of Americans do not support same-sex marriages, the majority of Americans do not support taking away 1st and 2nd Amendment rights, the majority of Americans do not support tax increases.

Obama, with the total assistance of the MSM and the corrupt ACORN organization, hundreds of millions of dollars in illegal campaign contributions, massive voter registration fraud, and lofty rhetoric, was able to fool a majority of Americans who voted. The Obama campaign of 2008, while successful, will go down in history as the most corrupt campaign EVER:

Obama never verifies his citizenship as required by the Constitution.

ACORN and the Obama campaign commits massive voter registration fraud.

Obama supporters in Missouri threaten arrest of anyone who runs campaign ads against Obama.

Democrat Secretary of State in Ohio refuses to verify 200,000 fraudulent voter registrations.

Obama campaign workers caught being registered to vote in several states.

Obama campaign turns off online security features alowing hundreds of millions in illegal foreign campaign contributions.  

Obama supporters intimidating voters in Philly.

Obama supportive MSM utterly fails to "vet" Obama, ignoring almost everything about his sordid past: drug use, Muslim upbringing, travel to restricted foreign countries, extensive ties to terrorists, socialist training, refusal to release records, corrupt land deal, corrupt earmarks, membership in racist church, fraudulent Senate financial disclosures, meetings with foreign leaders in violation of the Logan Act. The list goes on and on and on.

Those of us who love America, unlike those on the left, will not rest until Obama is exposed for the fraud that he truely is.

502 I'll keep making pro-Palin arguments until November 2012. Like many who have posted here, my vote for her was just that: a vote for a candiate rather a vote against the greater evil. Many of you keep bringing up the Couric and Gibson interviews, claiming she's unelectable damaged goods. I claim you're wrong, and think many of you are partisan for Romney or some other, even more unelectable prospect, and hate the idea of your guy being supplanted by a relative newcomer. Yeah, well, your guy had his chance, and if he could be beaten by McCain in th eprimaries, he would be trounced by Obama in the general election. Further, Sarah Palin is no blank screen upon which we project our hopes and ideals, as Obama has written of his supporters. She is smart, capable, flawlessly telegenic, unabashedly conservative and unapologetically herself. If she promotes a message of realistic energy independence, individual self-determination and accountability, genuinely limited government with greater emphasis on state-centered federalism, and a peace through strength approach to foreign policy, she will win. And--given the dismal record I know he will accrue--Obama will help.

503 Come on Troy, do you want to keep losing? Her poll numbers were terrible and she made our party a laughing stock. Is that really what you want?

504 I love how Walter is one of the few conservatives with his head screwed on straight, and yet he pilloried as a troll.  Palin was a bigger drag on the McCain ticket than President Bush.  The guy with the lowest approval rating in Presidential history.  Palin is a joke, and the electorate of the United States knows it.

The GOP base now consists almost entirely of a demographic that is older, Southern, white voters.  A demographic that will continue to diminish in size every single year.  So go ahead, be my guest, rebuild your party around someone that appeals to the most base elements of the GOP.  Democrats everywhere will thank you.

505 Walter, Sarah Palin was all that stood between John McCain and a Mondale-like blowout. Polls? She's running a 92% favorability rating with Republicans right now, and as we've seen, the strategy we need is not one of diluting our principles in order to appeal to centrist moderates, but rather, letting the moderates come to us on the strength of our message and the ideas driving that message: peace through strength, realistic energy self-sufficiency, individual self-determination and accountability.  I also happen to think the far-Left Democratic overreach we're about to experience will fairly breed new Republicans--or at least independents receptive to our ideas. So sure, I want my party to win--which is one of the reasons I'll be a strong Palin supporter for the duration. 

506 Cam, what do you care? Why are you hanging out at a center-right blogsite, anyway? Shouldn't you be celebrating with your like-minded pals, glorying in the magnificence of The One or whatever? btw, that quasi-religious, cultish adoration of Dear Leader is way beyond creepy, and so is all of that pro-Obama propaganda in schools, and so are those big, iconographic, Che-like billboards. Are there any freedom-loving thinkers left on the Left, and why aren't you disturbed by this?

507 Hahahahaha Ace of Spades is center-right.  Just like Sarah Palin is a moderate.  And you seem to be the ones with the "cultish adoration" problem, not me.  It's you who plucked Sarah Palin from relative obscurity and foisted her onto the national stage based solely on her gender and sexual attractiveness.

So, have fun jerking off to your Sarah Palin moose-fur bikini fantasies.  I'll be here in "fake America" watching the GOP self-destruct by deifying a woman so dumb she makes Katie Couric look like fucking Walter Cronkite.  The only votes the GOP can win are those of undereducated, southern whites over the age of 35.  Old people are dying, America is only getting more diverse, and southern states are bleeding residents fleeing for coastal blue states.  You do the math.

But please, by all means trot out all your favorite anti-left stereotypes.  They seem to have worked pretty well this election cycle.  I guess 53% of America is now Godless, freedom hating communists?  For my money, I'd wager that most people simply realized they give more of a fuck about saving their job than your laughable conservative social agenda.

508 Oh, and Troy, the fact that 92% of Republicans approve of Palin doesn't mean jack shit unless you're talking about an Oklahoma Senate race.  Again, you might want to brush up on your math.  Even 100% support among Republicans equates to just 36% nation-wide.  Have fun winning a national election with 36% of the vote.  Anyone that isn't an under-educated wingnut doesn't quite share your raging Palin boner. 

509 Who the fuck are these guys?

510 Fake Americans, obviously.

511 main page @ ace.mu.nu

512 I do so love the anger in the repubelickin camp.  To those of you who do think that Palin is an intellect I can only say "Wow."  To the rest of you I say:  stop thinking with your johnsons.

But, by all means, express your preference:  it's your ilk that's making life easy for the democrats. 

513 main page @ ace.mu.nu

514

Cam, you wrote, 'For my money, I'd wager that most people simply realized they give more of a fuck about saving their job than your laughable conservative social agenda.' Get this, Cam: if one raises taxes and increase government spending during a recession, one gets more recession. Further, when Obama was asked by a sympathetic reporter why he supported raising capital gains taxes even though such a tax increase has been proven to be detrimental to economic growth, Obama replied, 'Because it's the fair thing to do." Ponder that one for a moment, moonbat. How is it 'fair' to implement a measure you know will result in overall decline in economic activity? Fair to whom? The guy who loses his job as a direct result of that decline? Such policies don't make sense at any level: morally, economically, or politically. Do you ever question the dogma driving such a statement?

515 Cam, regarding my Palin crush: it helps she's physically attractive, but I had a thing for Maggie Thatcher, too. Conservative women do for me, sport. And it sure as hell beats the raging man-love you and yours radiate whenever you write or talk about The One. The very last thing I ever needed to see was Chris Matthews experiencing an on-air orgasm on election night.

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