1 Very good.

2 I am not even clear to whom the letter was supposedly sent.

3

Start with the assholes in MO at KMOX:

www.kmox.com

Just start tooling around the site, and they have the email addresses of the hosts.

4 Good except for "while hurting Obama". Why include that?

The media's not going to want to hurt Obama. Hell, in theory, they shouldn't want to hurt anyone. Those 3 words should have been left out. They were hardly motivators.

Otherwise, excellent.

5 Maybe Bill Ayers ghost-wrote it for him.

6

You'll never find me, ace.

I'm in the Bahamas.

 

7 McCain has a joe the plumber ad out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmZ3o0Di7Go

8 1. Asking for "Proof" is racist.

2. Ayers probably wrote the letter.

3. OMG DID YOU HEAR THAT THE PLUMBER DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A LICENSE TO BE A PLUMBER.

9 Uh, look dude, we're a little busy going digging up trash on Joe the Plumber, okay.  We have REAL business to take care of.

10 It's nice, but it's an "If the glove doesn't fit" question.

The reports around the time of the bailout showed Paulson and Obama as friendly. He wouldn't have opened his mouth without actually letting Paulson have a letter.

When he got the letter, exactly, might be an issue. But backdating is really, really easy.

11

This one??

Obama Urges Bernanke, Paulson to Fight Foreclosures, Hold Homeownership Summit Thursday, March 22, 2007 Printable Format

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Ben LaBolt

WASHINGTON, DC -- U.S. Senator Barack Obama today sent a letter to Federal Reserve Chairman Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Paulson urging them to immediately convene a homeownership preservation summit with key stakeholders to fight foreclosures driven by growth in the subprime mortgage market.

The text of the letter is below:

Dear Chairman Bernanke and Secretary Paulson,

There is grave concern in low-income communities about a potential coming wave of foreclosures. Because regulators are partly responsible for creating the environment that is leading to rising rates of home foreclosure in the subprime mortgage market, I urge you immediately to convene a homeownership preservation summit with leading mortgage lenders, investors, loan servicing organizations, consumer advocates, federal regulators and housing-related agencies to assess options for private sector responses to the challenge.

We cannot sit on the sidelines while increasing numbers of American families face the risk of losing their homes. And while neither the government nor the private sector acting alone is capable of quickly balancing the important interests in widespread access to credit and responsible lending, both must act and act quickly.

Working together, the relevant private sector entities and regulators may be best positioned for quick and targeted responses to mitigate the danger. Rampant foreclosures are in nobody’s interest, and I believe this is a case where all responsible industry players can share the objective of eliminating deceptive or abusive practices, preserving homeownership, and stabilizing housing markets.

The summit should consider best practice loan marketing, underwriting, and origination practices consistent with the recent (and overdue) regulators’ Proposed Statement on Subprime Mortgage Lending. The summit participants should also evaluate options for independent loan counseling, voluntary loan restructuring, limited forbearance, and other possible workout strategies. I would also urge you to facilitate a serious conversation about the following:

What standards investors should require of lenders, particularly with regard to verification of income and assets and the underwriting of borrowers based on fully indexed and fully amortized rates.

How to facilitate and encourage appropriate intervention by loan servicing companies at the earliest signs of borrower difficulty.

How to support independent community-based-organizations to provide counseling and work-out services to prevent foreclosure and preserve homeownership where practical.

How to provide more effective information disclosure and financial education to ensure that borrowers are treated fairly and that deception is never a source of competitive advantage.

How to adopt principles of fair competition that promote affordability, transparency, non-discrimination, genuine consumer value, and competitive returns.

How to ensure adequate liquidity across all mortgage markets without exacerbating consumer and housing market vulnerability.

Of course, the adoption of voluntary industry reforms will not preempt government action to crack down on predatory lending practices, or to style new restrictions on subprime lending or short-term post-purchase interventions in certain cases. My colleagues on the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs have held important hearings on mortgage market turmoil and I expect the Committee will develop legislation.

Nevertheless, a consortium of industry-related service providers and public interest advocates may be able to bring quick and efficient relief to millions of at-risk homeowners and neighborhoods, even before Congress has had an opportunity to act. There is an opportunity here to bring different interests together in the best interests of American homeowners and the American economy. Please don’t let this opportunity pass us by.

Sincerely,

U.S. Senator Barack Obama

12

I would add, if they have enough time to investigate whether Joe the Plumber has a plumber's license, then they should have enough time to figure out where this letter is.

They could start by simply asking Obama.

Or is that too hard for these "professional" journalists.

Maybe we should put those two college girls in Ohio on the case.  They seem to be better at this than the people who actually make a living at it.

13 I'm sure one of Obama's flunkies is busy typing one up right now.

14 Letter? We don't need no steeenking letter!!

15 7 McCain has a joe the plumber ad out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmZ3o0Di7Go

Posted by: lorien1973 at October 16, 2008 04:40 PM (IhQuA)

Check Mate?

16 Any interest at all? Or is his word satisfactory on this point?

My magic 8-ball says:

His word is fine; That's one bad mutha-

17 Uh, MSM is me.

18 Is this the letter he's referring to?

19 In case anyone is interested:

David Singleton's email address is dsingleton@timesshamrock.com

20 Stoner - to say that that letter is what Obama claimed it to be in the debate, etc. is a bigger stretch than to claim that Ayers is just a guy in his neighborhood.

21 It does look like a letter.

22 13 I'm sure one of Obama's flunkies is busy typing one up right now.

--------------

Like A. Stoner?

23 Didn't I see a statement from the McCain camp, pointing out that this letter of Obama's was actually more about preventing foreclosures (ie, 'spreading the wealth around,' ie, keeping the bad loans as bad debts on the books) rather than restoring the health of the credit markets (as several posters above show)?

24 They dug up Joe the Plumbers tax lien in record time, you'd think they might be inclined to do a Joe/Sarah work up on Obama's letter.

Nah. That's crazy talk.

25 Why would you ask Obama for a copy of the letter?  Why don't you ask the purported recipients of the letter (Bernanke and Paulson) who might actually be in possession of it. 

Those guys are probably in a far better position to deny Obama's claim than Obama would be in a position to prove it.  At best, Obama would have nothing more than a file copy of the physical letter he posted the text of on his Senate website in March, 07.

Ace, this one seems, frankly, retarded.

26

Wait, the letter is Obama asking for a summit to change the terms of the loans to homeowners who are already in trouble? In March 2007?

WTF?

That's like giving someone with pneumonia a cough drop.

What a joke.

 

27 OT: Glenn Beck moving to FOX?

28 Dear Ace:

Regarding your inquiry: Raciiiissssttt!

Sincerely,

The MSM

29 Gallup results are the huge red headlines on drudge.

30 McCain's Joe the Plumber ad is awesome.

31 3. OMG DID YOU HEAR THAT THE PLUMBER DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A LICENSE TO BE A PLUMBER. ---

How stupid are these assholes? Employees aren't required to have a license, the contractors they work for do. Joe isn't his own boss YET.

32 Residential plumbing doesn't require a license any more than residential landscaping, the license thing is horsefeathers.

33 Cleary Obama is referrring to the letter he wrote while on the Senate Banking Committee.

34 A. Stoner,

How about a copy of an actual physical letter?  You know, photocopy, Xerox, whatever they call it these days.  With a letterhead and actual signature on it.

Of course, we could just have Paulson at Treasury show us the original.

35 I think this is suppose to be it?

http://obama.senate.gov/press/070322-obama_urges_ber/

36 This post isn't as funny as the cunt thing.

37 Regarding the letter that isn't the letter that Obama claims to have written.  Why do liberals write as if they are asking Santa for presents?

What kind of leadership is that, dear mister public official, as another government official, I would like you to devise a solution to a problem that fits all the available parameters:

1.  don't make poor people responsible for bad acts.

2.  don't blame politicians for bad ideas.

3.  Make it cost for free

4.  Involve everyone who would potentially be affected by this law in an intensely debated and long winded discussion that protects everyone involved from having their votes publicly known.

5.  Oh, and give everyone lots of money.

Thank you, Easter bunny, Bernanke

38 This post isn't as funny as the cunt thing.

Ya' puts your money on the table and ya' takes ya' chances.

39 Dear Senator Obama,

After much research and deliberation, we have come up with the following response to your wishlist, fantasy, extortion letter:

Tell your deadbeat constituents to get jobs and pay their bills.

Thank you,

people who actually worked for a living.

40 Oh my god, AOS has gone BOLD.

41 YAAAY! It's Bold Font Thursday again!!

42 Birth certificate, his thesis, records, anything he's written that would indicate authorship, how he got chosen for Annenberg..

A letter?

43 Cleary Obama is referrring to the letter he wrote while on Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee.

FTFY

44

#11 & #18:

Here's the best bullet point from "the letter":

How to support independent community-based-organizations to provide counseling and work-out services to prevent foreclosure and preserve homeownership where practical.

That means $$$ for ACORN for more community agitation.

45 This letter was too late!

Everyone already knew about this problem!

And how many cowbells did this blog feature in the interim?

46 I love Barack Obama so much that I'm going to have his name tatooed on my penis.

Well, at least the letter "O". There isn't enough room for the rest.

47

Most important passage of this "warning" from the ACORN Oracle:

"regulators are partly responsible for creating the environment that is leading to rising rates of home foreclosure"

I call bullshit. In two debates The One has said that this crisis was caused by the "failed" Conservative policy of deregulation. This crisis was the "chickens coming home to roost."

But, Mr. Judegment here says ---in weasel words--- that regulators doing their jobs is creating a bad environment for low income homeowners and putting them at risk. Not loss of  value, regulators carrying out their assigned administrative duties.

This is not ringing the warning bell, its running interference.

 

48 Obammy didn't actually "send" send the letter. It's still sitting on his desk. It's the thought that counts.

Oh, by the way...

RA-A-A-ACIST!

49 Posted by: smoke at October 16, 2008 05:15 PM (i5D30)

Was that intended to be English?

50 This is a lot like the letter Obama supposedly wrote warning about Russia invading Georgia in April.  I went to his site to look that up and here is what I found:

4. Obama has a habit of inflating his importance when it comes to government policy. Last night he claimed to have warned about a Russian invasion of Georgia in a statement he released in April of this year. That didn't sound quite right so i went and looked it up. Here is what he said:

Ukraine and Georgia have also been developing their ties with NATO. Their leaders have declared their readiness to advance a NATO Membership Action Plan, MAP, to prepare for the rights and obligations of membership. They are working to consolidate democratic reforms and to undertake new responsibilities in their relationship with the Alliance. I welcome the desire and actions of these countries to seek closer ties with NATO and hope that NATO responds favorably to their request, consistent with its criteria for membership. Whether Ukraine and Georgia ultimately join NATO will be a decision for the members of the alliance and the citizens of those countries, after a period of open and democratic debate. But they should receive our help and encouragement as they continue to develop ties to Atlantic and European institutions.

"NATO enlargement is not directed against Russia. Russia has an important role to play in European and global affairs and should see NATO as a partner, not as a threat. But we should oppose any efforts by the Russian government to intimidate its neighbors or control their foreign policies. Russia cannot have a veto over which countries join the alliance. Since the end of the Cold War, Republican and Democratic administrations have supported the independence and sovereignty of all the states of Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union, and we must continue to do so. President Putin recent threat to point missiles at Ukraine is simply not the way to promote the peaceful 21st century Europe we seek.

51

Funny, the media can rouse itself (themselves? whatever) to dig into Joe the Plumbers tax records, voter registration status and God only knows what else, but they can't find a letter sent by The Messiah....

Then again, they also can't seem to find a link between Obama and Wright, Obama and Rezko, Obama and Ayers, Obama and Acorn, etc. etc. etc.

Which leads me to conclude that they can't find their asses with both hands. 

52 This Halloween I'm going to have sex with a pumpkin while wearing my "Sarah Palin is a cunt t-shirt."

53

By the way, in case you don't know how loan modifications work, here it is.

Basically, you will never get a better deal on your current mortgage, unless you can threaten to prepay (with cash or with a refi)... or if you stop payment.  So what a "community organizer" can do is, once he finds out what the best possible deal you can get from the bank on a loan-mod is, he can then tell others who have a worse deal to stop payment until they get that same deal.  If possible, have the government come in to put the muscle on, too.

Rinse and repeat until the bank fails.  Not your problem.

54 Posted by: smoke at October 16, 2008 05:38 PM (i5D30)

Dude, is English a second language to you?  Whatever you're attempting to impart is not coming through.

55

Obama is a true leader.

Dear Ben,

Can we uh uh uh have a meeting about these uhhh people uhhh who can't uhhhh pay their mortages and give 'em a break on their payments uhhh or something?

Also, ACORN needs more money for election fraud helping communities.

Thanks!

The One

56 Ah, (i5D30) is porky.  That explains it.

57

52, Smoke:

Methinks I'll find a gulag full of Marxists and radical chic trust fund putzes AKA the DNC.

58 Hussein is just like anyone else acting all wholesome, even though he just got out of the bed with the whore he's warning everyone else about...

59 Sully writes letters to the media also...

60 who broke the blog? Ace?

61 Hey, what the heck are you apologizing for?

This letter from Obama is not a warning about the housing market. It is about foreclosures among subprime borrowers, and that is the limit of its concern. It is not about the condition of mortgage securities markets, the overall housing market, the condition of Fannie and Freddie, or anything related to the current credit situation. His only concern here is keeping people who are not paying their mortgage loans in their houses despite their defaults.

The freaking title says all of that and shows that he's not even cognizant of the credit market's impending dangers: "Obama Urges Bernanke, Paulson to Fight Foreclosures, Hold Homeownership Summit." Is that about the credit market, about the mortgage market? No, and neither is his letter.

Presenting this letter as his "warning" is completely dishonest. Here's what Obama said, in the second debate:
"On the other hand, two years ago, I said that we've got a sub-prime lending crisis that has to be dealt with. I wrote to Secretary Paulson, I wrote to Federal Reserve Chairman [Ben] Bernanke, and told them this is something we have to deal with, and nobody did anything about it."

His letter has nothing to do with the subprime lending crisis; it has to do with people facing or in foreclosure. What he said about those things, were done and had already been done, just not in the kind of forum he pretends would be helpful. But again, it didn't deal with the credit crisis; he was only concerned with helping people keep their homes without paying for them.

He then said: "A year ago, I went to Wall Street and said we've got to reregulate, and nothing happened." He did not say we need to reregulate; that's a blatant lie. He didn't talk about deregulation at all. He spoke about disclosure and transparency, and other things that ARE ALREADY DONE. Maybe Obama isn't aware of the requirements of Truth In Lending; lenders already have to disclose true loan costs and payments.

Moreover, he places the entire blame, in that speech, on lenders, saying that they deceived home buyers/mortgage borrowers. That's nonsense. The people taking subprime loans were not bamboozled into buying, and the lenders aren't predatory (no one HAS to take a mortgage to buy a house, no one has to do either of those things).

So Obama lied about both Obama's letter and Obama's address to NASDAQ. Neither was a warning. Neither showed any insight into the situation. It is also true, as said in the post, that the "warning" letter was WAY after the crisis was well underway and well in the public's minds. And what Obama said about it was not helpful in the least little bit; had Paulson and Bernanke given Obama control to call his commission, NOTHING about the current situation would be different in any way, since nothing he addressed in the letter concerned the credit crisis.

62 ugh. Heard Obama take a cheap shot at JTP how McCain says he's fighting for him -- big laugh from crowd. He then repeats Biden's lie that he makes 250k. News man follows up with JTP doesn't have a license because he is an employee. He doesn't correct obama's lie that he's making 250k. What bullshit!

63 Oh, yeah:

Best Part of Letter:
How to support independent community-based-organizations to provide counseling and work-out services to prevent foreclosure and preserve homeownership where practical.

obama is a fucking liar.

64 You've got some major tags open, or my 4 year old turned on the italics-machine.

65 February 10, 2007: Obama announces his candidacy for President
March 22, 2007: Obama writes a CYA letter to make it look like he's been on top of this crisis from the beginning.

What a joke.

I wonder how many letters he wrote in the weeks following February 10th.

Dear NRA:

I friggin' LOVE you guys! Guns rule!

Love,

Barack

66 OK.  I'm dippin' my balls in that stuff.

Feels pretty good.

Kinda smells good, too.





OK.  Takin' the balls out now.  It was startin' to sting a little.

67 Closing tags are racist.

68 Dude, the global warming post hed jacked up the whole blog.  Fix it.

69 I just sent the email to everyone I know.

So am I getting a check from Bill Gates or Walt Disney's frozen cranium?  I forget.

70 OK.  I'm dippin' my balls in that stuff.

Feels pretty good.

Kinda smells good, too.





OK.  Takin' the balls out now.  It was startin' to sting a little.

Dip your balls in the abundant Arctic ice, that should take care of the stinging.

71 How come the updated version of the post isn't showing up when i click for the comments?  The part with the youtube is missing.

72

Breaking News:

Unclosed italics tag causes right-leaning blog to lean even further right.

73

if someone makes an assertion of prescience without providing evidence for it, the natural, automatic, instantaneous response should be, "Okay, let's' see the letter."

I knew he was going to say that.

74 You all are right, that letter is a fraud, but it is the one he keeps trying to claim showed his prescient instincts with. I am not defending Obama, just making it known that he has a written letter. If I was McCain, I would do an ad showing legislation of his side by side by Barack's Letter. Date both. Tell the public that fully half the laons that are in default today were made in 2006 and 2007, and that McCain's legislation that Barack Obama refused to support would have prevented the crisis, while Barack's letter was a day late and dollar short.

75

From the March 2007 letter:   My colleagues on the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs have held important hearings on mortgage market turmoil and I expect the Committee will develop legislation.

 

Yeah Chris Countrywide Dodd  had this one under control - I wonder why Barack didn't also tell us the super job being done in the house by Barney Frank? As others have already pointed out the letter isn't what Barack says it is, in fact Barack seems to be asking Paulson to prolong the Fannie/Freddie problem not fix it.              

 

76

Hi all -

Let me add some facts to this discussion.  As most of you know who have read my posts here and at HotAir, for the last 13 years I have been lobbying and handling policy issues for various companies and trade groups in the mortgage industry.  I have been intimately involved in most of the stuff you have been reading about over the last several weeks, especially the Fannie/Freddie reform efforts.  For the last 4 years I worked for one of the top 10 lenders and top 5 servicers in the country.

I never saw this letter from Barack Obama.  I would usually get copies of such letters from my company's lobbyist in Washington (in my last job I only did the policy stuff and not the actual lobbying in DC), or from the Mortgage Bankers Association.  That is, if they were considered significant.  This one wasn't.  Today is the first time I've seen it.  I'm not saying he didn't write it, just that nobody thought it was significant at the time. 

There is nothing in it that the Fed and Treasury did not already know and were working on.  Sheila Bair at FDIC was already talking to the banks about stepping up voluntary forbearance and loan modifications.  The state AGs were putting similar pressure on the state-regulated lenders like Countrywide and GMAC.  

There also was already in existence the Homeownership Preservation Foundation, a non-profit that was started in 2005 with a $20 million grant by GMAC because it foresaw a coming spike in foreclosures.  The HPF was already working with lenders to provide a free counseling hotline that borrowers could call who were afraid to call their servicer directly or answer its calls and letters (research has prtoven that 50% of people who enter foreclosure have never talked with their servicer.)  By the spring of 2007, the top 20 lenders had already agreed to add another $1 million to the HPF and ramp up their referrals to it.  The HPF now contracts with 20 counseling agencies around the country (not ACORN, trust me, there are real counseling agencies out there that do a great job) and handles thousands of calls a month. 

In March of 2007, Senator Dodd held a "summit meeting" with 10 major servicers, similar to what Obama was calling for in his letter, and eventually got them all to sign a set of principles for preventing foreclosures and treating customers in default.  These were voluntary, but all the big players signed on to them.  Barack Obama was not involved in any of these discussions - nor would he have been, because Chris Dodd was himself planning to run for President and he was not going to share the limelight on this with any potential opponent.  He played up this summit and the principles to great political effect.

Also in early 2007, the federal bank regulators issued new guidance that effectively ended the NINJA loans, pay-option ARM loans, and short-term ARMs with super-low teaser rates.  And as Obama correctly notes, they also followed that up with some pretty strict new guidelines on subprime lending.  So that horse was way out of the barn as well when Obama wrote his letter.  The bad products and lending practices for the most part had already stopped.  The worst lenders were out of business.

So I would say it is a "little" fair for Obama to claim some credit for sending this letter.  But not much.  He recognized the problems sooner than some did, probably because of his close association with ACORN.  But most people in the know, both within the Bush Administration and the industry, knew the problems were growing and were already taking major steps to address them.

77 Maybe I missed some pertinent facts, but is Obamam a member of the Finance Committee.  And if not, would he have known about the business of a committee of which he's not a member?

78

"I saw a major economic calamity coming." [- After it had already begun.] "And so I took action. I wrote a strong letter." - B.H.O.

You wrote a fucking letter, Barrack??  Wow.

79 Too bad McCain doesn't have the courage to confront Obama about the greatest fraud ever committed on the American people. 

80

Baldilocks -

Obama was never a member of the Senate Banking Committee.  But any Member of Congress can write to a regulator demanding action.  It's done all the time.  But in early 2007, Barack Obama was a pretty obscure freshman Senator.  The letter would have been answered routinely by Treasury with some boilerplate about what was already being done.  The letters that get attention are those from senior members of the authorizing or Appropriations Committees, or letters signed by several Senators.

It's a bit of a mystery to me why Obama did not want to be on Banking since he had such close ties to ACORN. 

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