1 Ok
The Audacity of Taupe

2 I dunno .. maybe the MSM can tell me the spoonfed truth

3 He could also be getting his ideas from his own campaign websites................

4 Yeah Ace, they're  there. Talk about Astroturfing. They are doing the same thing with the Jesus/Organizer-Pilate/Governor meme. Only it doesn't start on the blogs and end with the MSM. Now Obama himself is in on the act.

I wish these guys played poker, with tells like these you could make a fortune.

5 It would seem that the section of the attack just prior to the lipstick comment was completely scripted - and swiped from a Tom Toles political cartoon no less. 

Listen to the audio again, and you can hear Obama stepping on the setup, and having to backtrack to set the attack line up again.

A poster on Free Republic connects the dots:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2078816/posts

6 Beckel was the guy who had hookers service him in his home, including giving him a blow job in his driveway while his wife and children were home (they leave that little factaoid out of his online bio of the incident), and paid the ho with personal checks leading him to be blackmailed. How's that for judgment!

7 This is not the shopworn political cliché I once knew.

8

Hope the media is as kind and understanding if McCain ever "slips" and recites the phrase "calling a spade a spade."

Yea, know that's going to happen!

9 McCain still up 5 among registereds...  Heh.

10

I friggen' hate Beckel.  Somebody should tell him to either loose some weight or get shirts with bigger collar sizes.  Jeez... what a dope.

I watch Fox in the morning while getting ready for the day.  I saw him say this but did not tie it up to Obama's crud yesterday.  You all KNOW that there was going to be quite a bit of "lipstick" comments after Palin's speech last week.  I just thought it would be more... subtle and sarcastic.  Instead, it was awkward.

11 YES!

12 Bottomline, whether something is offensive or not depends on the context. Try in relation to Obama using the phrase "let's call a spade a spade" and see what happens.

13 Rush just played the "lipstick" and Biden's wheelchair gaffe soundbites with added rimshot sound effects. Very funny. Obama & Biden sound like really bad lounge acts.

14 While Obama is wasting days defending himself, McCain/Palin are campaigning. Good job!

15

This whole thing reminds me of some G.K. Chesterton:

"It is terrible to contemplete how few politicians are hanged." - The Cleveland Press, 3/1/1921

"It is the mark of our whole modern history that the masses are kept quiet with a fight. They are kept quiet by the fight because it is a sham-fight; thus most of us know by this time that the Party System has been popular only in the sense that a football match is popular." - A Short History of England. p.156

"It is a good sign in a nation when things are done badly. It shows that all the people are doing them. And it is bad sign in a nation when such things are done very well, for it shows that only a few experts and eccentrics are doing them, and that the nation is merely looking on." - "Patriotism and Sport," All Things Considered

"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected." - ILN, 4/19/1924

"Women are the only realists; their whole object in life is to pit their realism against the extravagant, excessive, and occasionally drunken idealism of men." - A Handful of Authors

"Women have a thirst for order and beauty as for something physical; there is a strange female power of hating ugliness and waste as good men can only hate sin and bad men virtue." - Chesterton on Dickens

16 There was another Democrat on Fox and Friends either yesterday or the day before that used the same line and got blasted by Steve Doocey.  This was clearly a talking point that failed everytime it's been tried.  Not sure if the guy was with the campaign or not and I didn't catch the name, but I heard on XM as I was driving to work.  Right around 7:45am, if anyone has the ability to find this video.

17 It's more protracted, of course, but the sequence of events of Obama trying to trash Palin combine into what may well be his Dukakis-in-the-Tank moment.

18 But how does this help my children?

19 Damn sockpuppet.

20 Just ran across "Top ten other "figures of speech" Obama considered using", and it's too good to not link.

9. You know what you won't get with an Obama administration? Two words - Moose Knuckles

You have to go read the rest.  Pretty funny.

21 On Drudge, right now:

S.C. Dem Party Chair: McCain chose 'someone whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn't had an abortion'... Developing...

22 John Galt, commenter at the Gateway Pundit links a "Palin as lipstick on a pig" blog at democrats.org on Aug 30.

http://www.democrats.org/page/community/post/elizabethberry/Cgsq

23 Does this merit some cowbell?

24 bob beckel is a douche

25 These Dems are bootiful - shoot yourself in the foot while the foot is in your mouth.  These guys can't get any dumber.

26 In his statement Obama also said "You can wrap and OLD fish in newspaper called change.  It's still going to stink after 8 years.  I agree.  Everyone is ignoring the "old fish" line.  Obama added the "old" which is obviously a direct reference to McCain which makes the "pig in lipstick" Palin.

One other thing...

What if while referring to Obama hypocrisy McCain uttered the words "now that is the pot calling the kettle black".  Would everyone be so quick to brush it aside?  Saying McCain was talking about Obama's hypocrisy?  Or that McCain misspoke?  No.  he would be labeled a racist.  Charlie, Katie and the gang would be foaming at the mouth calling him an out of touch racist old coot.  Everyone would be demanding that he remove himself from the race.

So why is it okay to be a misogynist but not a racist?  Why are they not in the same league.  Aren't they both protected classes?

27 Jiminjersey - Only white men can be racists or bigots.  Everyone knows that. 

28 What happens if you put lipstick on a pig in a pant suit?

29

What happens if you put lipstick on a pig in a pant suit?

Rosie O'Donnell

30 "South Carolina Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler sharply attacked Sarah Palin today, saying John McCain had chosen a running mate 'whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn't had an abortion.'"

And Obama didn't do the same thing, Ms. Fowler? Biden didn't have an abortion either, did he? Quick! Get the MSM in on this one. We smell scoop.

Wow. The amount of FAIL from the Democrats is contagious. None of their spaghetti throwing is sticking.

31 cfowler@scdp.org                

32 Sullivan is getting all passive-aggressive weird again:

Radio Silence

Have you noticed, as I have, that Ramesh Ponnuru, David Frum, Rick Brookhiser and John Derbyshire have been totally silent about Sarah Palin for quite a while?

Truthfully? No. And define "for quite a while" because you have continued to make weird allusions to her almost every day.

Get 'em, Ace. Get  'em.

33 Althouse brought up the fish line too--she immediately recognized "fish smell" as being a very poor angle of attack on a woman.

The more I think about it, the more I think that the fund raising thing is most of what's bugging Obama.

If they hit only half their August target, they really are in trouble on the home stretch. The individual caps mean that he needs to find new donors, which works well when you have good momentum, but is tough when you have negative momentum.

His burn rate is so high (no drug jokes here, folks) that he needs huge cash-flow just to avoid layoffs. Those TV and radio ads come entirely off the top, so he will have a much, much smaller budget than he wanted.

He is exhausted, confused, broke. It's no wonder he is stuttering and gaffing so often. I would feel sorry for him if the fate of the free world wasn't at stake.

34

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YES, I am just kidding

YES, I'm voting McCain-Palin in November

 Sung to the tune of Davey Crockett

Born on a mountaintop in Idaho

Became a white supremacist when she was only fo'

Her hubby's for secession an' Buchannan is her friend

Tortured baby seals from the time she was ten

Sarah, Sarah Palin

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A shotgun wedding with a drunken Eskimo

Sarah is the kind of gal who can't say no

Had a little half breed, then had fo' mo'

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Sarah, Sarah Palin, The wench of the back country

A hick town mayor and a first class nut

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Horse whips unwed mothers but her daughter is a slut

The case against this governor is open and shut

Sarah, Sarah Palin, Corruption in the back country

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Gonna drill Yosemite,Yellowstone,as well

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Sarah, Sarah Palin, Makin' your kids drink oil

Switced on my television what did I see

Sarah gave Alaska to the Red Chi-nee

The Russians threaten war, go ahead, says she

We're gonna glow in the dark eter-nal-ly

Sarah, Sarah Palin, Traitor to the back country

 

 

35

Lately, Bob Beckel always sounds like he ran up 10 stories to the FOX set while drinking a fifth.

36 27 Jiminjersey - Only white men can be racists or bigots.  Everyone knows that. 

Posted by: Some Dude at September 10, 2008 03:30 PM (eK8R5)

------------

Only conservative white men can be racists or bigots.  If a liberal white man says something racist or bigoted, it's nuance, don'tchaknow?

37 Ponnuru issued a "mea culpa" a few days back.

Frum is still bitterly clinging to his blue-state dhimmi status.

Dunno about Brookhiser.  Derbyshire can go fuck himself.

38 The thing that gets me about Obama is that he plays to people's base natures .... flipping off Hillary, likening Palin to a pig. And the reactions by his supporters show they know what he is doing ... they hoot and holler and eat it up.

BUT, he is using people's good natures to get away with it ... we grant him the plausible deniability that he asks for because that is what good people do.

Cynical, cynical politician.

39

But, like his flip-off of Hillary, he did it cannily enough that he can claim, sorta plausibly, that he meant no offense; he's just an idiot.

Isn't that so much worse? He'd start another World War by flipping off the wrong person. How can anyone who has done more than 10 minutes of public speaking not learn to be careful about which finger to scratch with?

 

40 Those comments are just another straw on the back of the "Jeez, that guy's a real asshole" camel.

41

Here is a link to a search I did of Daily Kos comments turning up 863 references including "lipstick" and "pig" over the past two weeks, including a huge number of them that pre-date Obama's supposedly "accidental" reference.   I can't stomach reading that many of them, but the first one I looked at was direct, saying "She's a pig with lipstick."  

http://www.dailykos.com/search?offset=0&old_count=30&string=lipstick+and+pig&type=comment&sortby=relevance&count=30&wayback=20160&wayfront=0

 

42

It's more protracted, of course, but the sequence of events of Obama trying to trash Palin combine into what may well be his Dukakis-in-the-Tank moment.

It's possible. For me the whole 'lipstick on a pig' thing is at best a minor gaffe, but several women I've talked to are really outraged by it. So it may be a male/female thing. Right now Obama is in a negative PR cycle. A few more gaffes and Drudge headlines and he'll be permanently damaged.

43

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/4/114658/8229/488/586331

This is a link to a Daily Kos story dated September 4th by a diariest named Marcim.   He/she directly refers to Gov. Palin as a pig with lipstick. 

 

 

 

 

44 It's obvious that pig-with-lipstick has been making the rounds across the liberal blogosphere for at least 10 days. 

Obambi knew exactly who he was pandering to when he made is "joke".

45 I don't think Obama got it from Beckel.  I'm sure he got it from this guy.

Do your faux-outrage bones get sore in the evenings?  Might I suggest some epsom salts?

46 It's possible. For me the whole 'lipstick on a pig' thing is at best a minor gaffe, but several women I've talked to are really outraged by it.

Same here.  I thought it was just a stupid comment, but my wife and female co-workers thought it was insulting and rude. 

47 Do your faux-outrage bones get sore in the evenings?  Might I suggest some epsom salts?

Given the vast liberal experience with the side effects of such outrage, we thank you for the advice.

48

that he meant no offense; he's just an idiot.

So let's look at Obama's options.  He's either a passive aggressive sexist who had full knowledge of the double meaning his statement had and went with it anyways probably hoping for the meaning to be caught by his supporters.  Or He's a complete buffoon who had no clue that what he was saying would be taken as an insult directed at Palin.

Sexist or Idiot.  Gee he sure gave himself a lot of room to work there.

And with everything going on is anyone thinking that perhaps they have decided to keep Palin repeating the same things continuously because they have witnessed the reaction its caused.  Not in the fans but in the media.  "She just keeps saying the same thing never different."  Keep that going long enouhg until they're spinning circles and then let her unleash again just like with her speech at the convention.  I mean could they have just set themselves up for another blindsiding by her?

49 "Do your faux-outrage bones get sore in the evenings?"

Macaca please...

50
It seems the entire "Lipstick on a Pig" story may have been, at least in part, a diversion to take interest away from the the discovery by the NYT that Obama worked on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

The piece is considered “unusually deceptive” and an excellent example of “propaganda” by those familiar with his efforts there, but it could simply be that the writer, Sam Dillon, is primarily a writer about education and unfamiliar with the political implications of the story.

Unexplored was why Obama seems to have left out this job from his resume. Considering Obama has been taking a pummeling for not having any executive experience, this would be an excellent comeback for Obama to all those complaints by McCain and Palin.

51

Sea-Slug  -- nobody here seems to be outraged as far as I've noticed.  Some have observed that women they know are outraged though.  So that's real good news for your boy right?  Heh.

No outrage from me.  Just shaking my head in awe of Obama's stupidity.

But you go with that faux thing. M'kay?

52 I dont know who broke the blog but it wasn't me this time.

53 frankly, I think the McCain camp looks silly pushing it

Yeah.  When the McCain camp complains about stuff like this, they just look weak.

Obama's actions are giving people a bad impression of him.  He's coming across as a jerk.  McCain doesn't need to point this out.

54 Stolen from a DKos diary but something to make you go hmmm. Take Begalia's words and substitute Obama for McCain. Do you think there would be outrage from the left? The exchange occurred on CNN over the bridge to nowhere.

<blockquote>ROBERTS: That would appear, Paul, to end any argument over whether or not she supported the bridge initially. But why can't Barack Obama make that point stick?

BEGALA: Because the press won't do its job, John. I criticized Barack Obama when he hasn't been tough enough. Barack's job is to run against John McCain, right. Don't shoot the monkey when you can shoot for the organ grinder. His job is not to focus on number two but number one. </blockquote>

55

Frankly, it doesn't really matter if he says he meant it or not.  Anyone that is not a complete Obama hack clearly recognizes that he was referring to Palin.  And I don't, for a millisecond, think Obama didn't know exactly what he was saying.  Though that makes him dumber than I would have even thought possible. 

Hell, the line didn't even play that well in front of the audience he was speaking to.  There was a smattering of clapping and laughter, but I thought I heard just as much "Oooooo", like they recognized that it was a clear insult to Palin.

56

YouTube has removed a webad that casts Sarah Palin as the victim of sexism on the request of CBS, whose anchor Katie Couric was featured in the ad.

“One of the great lessons of that campaign is the continued and accepted role of sexism in American life," Couric is quoted in the ad.

Asked about the ad, CBS spokeswoman Leigh Farris said, "CBS News does not endorse any candidate in the Presidential race. Any use of CBS personnel in political advertising that suggests the contrary is misleading."

Link

Hahaha. How about CBS personnel endorsing candidates on your news shows?

57 As for women being outraged by the pig comment, but men not getting why it's so bad, let me enlighten you:

In chick-speak, a pig is the second worst thing you can call a woman.  Every woman I know would prefer being called a bitch to being called a pig. 

Calling someone a bitch could be interpreted to mean that she's just a tough cookie.

Calling someone a pig means that she's busting out of her Wal-Mart poly-blend sweatpants, has five months of black roots showing since her last cheap bleach job and Cheeto dust coating her grubby fingers.

It's really, really bad.

58 Uh oh. Just heard Biden made a major gaffe only minutes ago. Not even on Drudge yet.

59

Fox News is now suggesting that this is game over for "The O" showing the Muskie line and the Ford, Poland is free line.

Good shit!

60

What's the worst thing? 

 

 _{just so I know}

61 he's just an idiot

And here I thought he was the smartest man alive. I hereby dub him D'ohbama.

Feel free to use that.

He must be GWB: either he's the smartest man alive, or a complete dolt. Usually at the same time, to hear it said.

62

I don't like.

We sound petty and...girlish.

Voters want Joe Maverick. Not Joe "Not so HARD!" Besser.

We don't do Offended Person too well. Please drop it.

I love Lady Gov. But I don't love the feminzation of the GOP.

 

63 I do not like the tone of this thread. Not at all worthy of the AOSHQLifestyle. So what I want to know is... who's the smokin hottie opposite Beckel?

64 The way I read it, McCain is the pig and Palin is the lipstick. McCain is the old fish, Palin is the stink.

It is worse in my mind than in yours!

65

What's the worst thing? 

Yeah, we need to know for, uh, research purposes.

_{oh and just to keep my stats up: cocksucker, motherfucker, shit, pig}

66

Holy SHIT,

Fox just ran the McCain ad about lipstick and they are all over the SC abortion comment.

Cow Belles!!

67

"Don't You Know That It's Different For Girls?"

Keep those Joe Jackson lyrics coming...you gotta Look Sharp!

"Is She Really Going Out With Him" could be changed to

"Does She Really Have More Clout Than Him".

68

_{What's the worst thing?} 

^{_{Yeah, we need to know for, uh, research purposes.}}

^{_{oh and just to keep my stats up: cocksucker, motherfucker, shit, pig}}

^{_{Posted by: Maetenloch at September 10, 2008 05:02 PM (zqzYV)}}

Racist!

69

What's the worst thing? 

 

 _{just so I know}

Gotta be the four-letter "c" word, right?

70 It is worse in my mind than in yours!

That's the AoS Lifestyle right there.

71

What's the worst thing?

These guys are just doing their homework. Because if you don't do your homework, you end up in Iraq.

72 someone:

Did the persons complaining about macaca get caught on tape calling someone macaca just a few months before George Allen did?

If you clicked on the link in my post, you would see that McCain himself, used the expression in regards to Hillary this very election.

So that would be faux outrage in my book.

73 Aw....crap, who dug Seattle Slough outta the dumpster.  Damn, I thought they cleaned out the garbage.

"... they hoot and holler and eat it up."

Learned SOMETHING from the rev. wright!

74 Sorry, Seattle; a double standard applies here. One guy used some colorful terms to describe certain persons of Asian persuasion while running for president 8 years ago; we expect that (and worse) from him. The other guy is "articulate" and all that and a bag of chips, and he swore that he wouldn't stoop to our level. As good doesn't cut it when you claim to be better.

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